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Lilan Kahn
Amarr ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.09 20:51:00 -
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Round 3 was deffens of tycho you manged to do what?
Put all our towers in to reinforced then fail to kil them off, due to your pupet masters being bussy with lv and maelstrom.
You can say what ever you whant, takeing kdf is a joke 3 moons enough said.
as i said round 3 is on.
If you think we are just gonna push over and die your mistaken.
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Butter Dog
Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2007.01.09 20:54:00 -
[32]
The only people who actually have lost anything are shareholders.
In case you are wondering what this means: You invested in the stations and the revenues generated by them. ISS then ran the stations on a 'not-for-profit' basis and gave ALL station income to the shareholders.
The stations which are now in the hands of other alliances were 100% shareholder owned. Your shares are now worth nothing and will no longer generate an income.
That is it. All investments carry a risk, you will not get a single ISK back. Due to the nature of their business model, ISS havent actually lost anything themselves apart from some POS.
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Kalmanaka
The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.09 20:59:00 -
[33]
How come IAC keeps bringing up BoB?
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.09 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kalmanaka How come IAC keeps bringing up BoB?
They are kinda daft and havnt figured out bob dosnt care abut iss ever since that delve incident.....
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.09 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kalmanaka How come IAC keeps bringing up BoB?
They are kinda daft and havnt figured out bob dosnt care abut iss ever since that delve incident.....
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Barrier Solo
Infinity Shipyard Masters Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.09 21:36:00 -
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Edited by: Barrier Solo on 09/01/2007 21:35:30
Originally by: Kaylana Syi ISS couldn't fight the war alone...
Really. And how many people did you have to call in to fight ISS once you lost F4? Send everybody else home and let's dance.
lol
/me puts flamesuit on Barrier Solo, CEO, INSM, ISS Join us! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadid=402528 |

Crozon
Crozon Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.09 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi So to put it into perspective, a third charter needs to be drafted and voted on by shareholders to continue this war.
Why do people keep thinking that ISS shareholders have a vote? They don't. As I understand it, ISS have only ever had non-voting shares. The recent charter revision was done by ISS management and could be done again to adapt to the new situation.
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Hakera
Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.01.09 22:43:00 -
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Ya know, being as I work in investments 9-5, I cant help but leave you the compulsory message at the end of every client statement.
The value of investments, and any income from them, can go down as well as up and you may not get back the amount you originally invested. Past performance is not necessarily a guide to the future.

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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi ISS couldn't fight the war alone
Nor could IAC, I seem to recall  --------------------------------------------------------------------
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0August0
Gallente The Crucible
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:07:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Kalmanaka How come IAC keeps bringing up BoB?
Fear. . . . Regards, August |

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 00:30:00 -
[41]
Originally by: 0August0
Originally by: Kalmanaka How come IAC keeps bringing up BoB?
Fear.
I'm scared of BoB too. They're like, big and scary.
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Barrier Solo Edited by: Barrier Solo on 09/01/2007 21:35:30
Originally by: Kaylana Syi ISS couldn't fight the war alone...
Really. And how many people did you have to call in to fight ISS once you lost F4? Send everybody else home and let's dance.
lol
/me puts flamesuit on
We fought you alone at the beginning of this war and absolutely stomped you, twice.
You then ran behind the POS shields and called in the mercs to do your dirty work. At this point, we knew we could not defeat the mercs, however, we also knew that they would not be there forever, but our friends will.
So, you ask why we don't ask our friends to leave and fight you 1 v 1? The only answer i can give you is: would you? Would you refuse the help of your friends? No, you wouldn't. Especially after your enemies have set the precedent for alliance gang-bangs.
The only reason you see so many of our allies down south at the moment is because of the number of people you brought to fight us. We assumed that someone might come to your rescue again, so we brougt some friends along to insure a more even fight then last time. Aparently we were wrong about how many "friends" ISS truely has, guess your "nuetrality" sorta turned off friends who you could have had. --------------------------------------------
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 01:12:00 -
[43]
Originally by: DHB FooFighter
Originally by: Barrier Solo Edited by: Barrier Solo on 09/01/2007 21:35:30
Originally by: Kaylana Syi ISS couldn't fight the war alone...
Really. And how many people did you have to call in to fight ISS once you lost F4? Send everybody else home and let's dance.
lol
/me puts flamesuit on
We fought you alone at the beginning of this war and absolutely stomped you, twice.
You then ran behind the POS shields and called in the mercs to do your dirty work. At this point, we knew we could not defeat the mercs, however, we also knew that they would not be there forever, but our friends will.
So, you ask why we don't ask our friends to leave and fight you 1 v 1? The only answer i can give you is: would you? Would you refuse the help of your friends? No, you wouldn't. Especially after your enemies have set the precedent for alliance gang-bangs.
The only reason you see so many of our allies down south at the moment is because of the number of people you brought to fight us. We assumed that someone might come to your rescue again, so we brougt some friends along to insure a more even fight then last time. Aparently we were wrong about how many "friends" ISS truely has, guess your "nuetrality" sorta turned off friends who you could have had.
The point of neutrality is that of staying out of politics. You're correct though, that EVE isn't really a game of fair fights at all, so you'd be fools to send your allies home. Then again, as you say, the opening moves went to you, so ... well, was it unreasonable to bring in mercs at that point?
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w0rmy
Intensive CareBearz Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.10 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus [well, was it unreasonable to bring in mercs at that point?
No more so than bringing friends in after you bought mercs in 
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Dark Shikari
What single item is larger than a jetcan?
My ego?
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: James Lyrus [well, was it unreasonable to bring in mercs at that point?
No more so than bringing friends in after you bought mercs in 
Quite. I don't like the endpoint of the fight, but I still think that, on the ISS side at least, the right choices were made. Admittedly, I have a somewhat closer view of the whole affair than some, which probably leads to me being somewhat biased.
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Crozon
Crozon Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.10 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter So, you ask why we don't ask our friends to leave and fight you 1 v 1? The only answer i can give you is: would you? Would you refuse the help of your friends? No, you wouldn't. Especially after your enemies have set the precedent for alliance gang-bangs.
Yes, no one can disagree, that ISS and allies gangbanged IAC to start with. Then IAC and allies gangbanged ISS afterwards. They both called in friends and well, they may call them in again, but I am starting to think that IAC vs ISS, 1 vs 1, may not be as one-sided as some may think.
But from what I heard, last night when an ISS fleet managed to organise at a reasonable time (ISS members tend to be of the adult, with jobs and children nature). IAC, Imp (and maybe others) couldn't finish off the POS's coming out of reinforced in ZX.
As I understand it, this was a pure ISS fleet (keep in mind these guys are 90% industrial), and they managed to have over 100 in gang(I wonder how many of them forgot to swap their mining lasers for some T2 sniping guns - not many I'm guessing :) )
IAC, credit to you; you do bring it. If the other alliances stay out of it, this may turn out to be a 1 vs 1. Tbh, in that case I would definitely have given IAC the advantage, but let's see what happens.
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Crozon
Originally by: DHB FooFighter So, you ask why we don't ask our friends to leave and fight you 1 v 1? The only answer i can give you is: would you? Would you refuse the help of your friends? No, you wouldn't. Especially after your enemies have set the precedent for alliance gang-bangs.
Yes, no one can disagree, that ISS and allies gangbanged IAC to start with. Then IAC and allies gangbanged ISS afterwards. They both called in friends and well, they may call them in again, but I am starting to think that IAC vs ISS, 1 vs 1, may not be as one-sided as some may think.
But from what I heard, last night when an ISS fleet managed to organise at a reasonable time (ISS members tend to be of the adult, with jobs and children nature). IAC, Imp (and maybe others) couldn't finish off the POS's coming out of reinforced in ZX.
As I understand it, this was a pure ISS fleet (keep in mind these guys are 90% industrial), and they managed to have over 100 in gang(I wonder how many of them forgot to swap their mining lasers for some T2 sniping guns - not many I'm guessing :) )
IAC, credit to you; you do bring it. If the other alliances stay out of it, this may turn out to be a 1 vs 1. Tbh, in that case I would definitely have given IAC the advantage, but let's see what happens.
ZXIC is not our system to take. Why waste assests attacking when the future owners are currently busy and not yet ready to take full ownership. --------------------------------------------
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Jalen Rose
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Posted - 2007.01.10 02:03:00 -
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ISS management should be held responsible to the investors. By their own admission they spent 15 bil ISK on pos, equipment and fuel to take the sov of f4 from IAC and the outpost. This has been lost. Not to mention the severe mis appropriation of funds to hire MC/KIA/VETO. All that isk was wasted. Especially when the pendulum swung back against ISS and not even their navy was willing to undock and even attempt to do something.
ISS leadership wasted 15bil ISK + merc fee's and still lost their outposts. Lucy, you got some splaining to do!
Why didnt' the merc's simply protect ISS assets rather than assault someone else's sov space, that would have saved the 15 bil lost in the f4 adventure and there's a possibility you might still have some of the outposts.
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Belid Hagen
The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jalen Rose ISS management should be held responsible to the investors. By their own admission they spent 15 bil ISK on pos, equipment and fuel to take the sov of f4 from IAC and the outpost. This has been lost. Not to mention the severe mis appropriation of funds to hire MC/KIA/VETO. All that isk was wasted. Especially when the pendulum swung back against ISS and not even their navy was willing to undock and even attempt to do something.
ISS leadership wasted 15bil ISK + merc fee's and still lost their outposts. Lucy, you got some splaining to do!
Why didnt' the merc's simply protect ISS assets rather than assault someone else's sov space, that would have saved the 15 bil lost in the f4 adventure and there's a possibility you might still have some of the outposts.
all funds which had nothing to do with any of the ISS IPO's - private member funds
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Aerick Dawn
Gallente Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.10 02:18:00 -
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I caught this signal out of the air, is this what you were looking for?
OFFICIAL ISS TRANSMISSION:
STATEMENT BEGIN AS FOLLOWS:<<<1538 UTC 5.343466647834>>>
DEAR INVESTORS STOP AHHH AGGGGHHHH STOP IM ON FIRE STOP PUT ME OUT STOP THE BURNING STOP HELP STOP
<<<<<END TRANSMISSION, UTC 1539.34 , 34299923 >>>>>> ______________________
If I'm in a fair fight, i've done something terribly wrong. |

James 315
The Older Gamers
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Posted - 2007.01.10 02:43:00 -
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"Investment" opportunities in Eve rarely end well. |

Murukan
Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.01.10 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Kaylana Syi ISS couldn't fight the war alone
Nor could IAC, I seem to recall 
umm they kicked your arses all over zxic until count and serenity went crying to MC and LV. After IAC weathered the storm, they said screw this ISS is going to die and it is going to die fast. Since a fair portion of eve dislikes ISS they stepped in to. If you guys were such a*****y bunch of *****s tbh (tgrads in EC- have been nothing but pleasent in local ) You would not have the huge amount of enemies arrayed against you. You made this bed ISS now time for you to lay in it, and die in it
Except lilan ofc, lilan will always have a home next to me in a belt in Jita with some shiny veld crystals waiting for him
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Crozon But from what I heard, last night when an ISS fleet managed to organise at a reasonable time (ISS members tend to be of the adult, with jobs and children nature). IAC, Imp (and maybe others) couldn't finish off the POS's coming out of reinforced in ZX.
Heh that was kinda funny, I don't think anyone was actually going to go kill those POS at all, not really sure since it's not IAC that's in charge of removing the ZXIC infestation.
We decided to go play with ISS since they went to all the trouble of heavily locking down the F4R gate in ZXIC. We had about half their numbers and they had a very nice camp in place so we got some goons to swarm over from the other side, once goons arrived we jumped in, some ISS stragglers died while the rest hid at a POS.
Then goons left, ISS came out of their POS, and some nice lil fights ensued, spreading from catch to ISS's new military base in Providence.
Sadly I had to log shortly after goons left so I don't have all that clear a picture of how it went, but from looking at our killboard it looks pretty close, not bad since after goons left it went back to being 100 (with multipled carriers) vs 50 (without) 
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Goodtime Girl
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.01.10 03:17:00 -
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Seems like a challange ... how about SOD against ISS for ZXIC everyone else stays out.
Can the SOD uber Pvper's (cough) beat a few miners ...
How about it ... no forum smack, no bull a straight yes or no from you and the community 
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Goodtime Girl Seems like a challange ... how about SOD against ISS for ZXIC everyone else stays out.
Can the SOD uber Pvper's (cough) beat a few miners ...
How about it ... no forum smack, no bull a straight yes or no from you and the community 
yes for the simple reason that t2 > t1
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Goodtime Girl
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.01.10 03:26:00 -
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Edited by: Goodtime Girl on 10/01/2007 03:23:27
Not forums wars ... real wars .... come on IAC you gonna let the SOD forum warriors kick around a few miners in ZXIC or you gonna hold their hands and just forum post ...
/me waits for the yeah but, were uber, my dads bigger thans your no really yes or no post 
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Lord Sol
Forgotton Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.10 03:31:00 -
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IAC excuse generator startup level 4 ...
Would be nice to see after all the SOD posts..... a few miners against the uber gatecampers.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.10 03:32:00 -
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SoD would beat the crap out of ISS, repeatedly, while massively outnumbered.
POS wouldn't die tho. 
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Goodtime Girl
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.01.10 03:33:00 -
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Edited by: Goodtime Girl on 10/01/2007 03:30:09
Quote: SoD would beat the crap out of ISS, repeatedly, while massively outnumbered
Wanna put their ships where you forum posts are .... or again is this a virtual fight unless AAA/GOONS/D2 are involved ... ;-)
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Lord Sol
Forgotton Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.10 03:36:00 -
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Seems like a yes or no ............... lots of forum smack but I kinda think its blob wars or forums wars
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