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Copine Callmeknau The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.11 15:53:00 - [1] On a small island in the middle of the ocean, there lives a tribe of people. The number of people does not matter - let's say fifty. Each person in the tribe has either blue eyes or green eyes. However, there are no mirrors on this island and the ocean is too murky so the tribesmen have NO way of knowing what color their eyes are. Furthermore, the capricious god the islanders worship has forbidden them to reveal to each other what color eyes they have. The islanders are devout and thus far have obeyed their god's command, so none of them know what color eyes they have. One day their god tells them that all blue eyed people must kill themselves and if they do, all the islanders will go to heaven. However, if a blue-eyed person doesn't commit suicide, or if any green eyed person commits suicide or is harmed in any way, or if, during the process, any islanders communicate in any way, all the islanders will go to hell. The islanders believe their god, and after a time, they succeed in carrying out his command. Keeping in mind that the exact number of islanders is irrelevant, how do they do it? Hints: 1) No, this is not a trick question. 2) The answer does not rely on a play on words. 3) The answer has nothing to do with genetics or reproduction 4) No, they can't just gouge out their eyes and look (green-eyes can't come to harm) 5) No, there is not just one blue-eyed islander (that would be a trick question) 6) Many people have suggested that the islanders could look at their own reflection in each other's eyes to determine what their own eye color is. Try this. It is not possible. 7) You just lost the game Credit to 4chan for this riddle ;) ----- Originally by: RUNYOUFOOLS wrong on so many levels you could only be more wrong if you where tuxford.
Zurtur Minmatar	Posted - 2007.01.11 16:08:00 - [2] &^%!$@$%$@ And that's what I get for my couriousity. Lost again :( Stop with these threads already PLEASE!! Z - Custom signature designs!
Weebear The Bowrey	Posted - 2007.01.11 16:10:00 - [3] Surely if they split into groups of 3, each person can see what colour eyes the other 2 have. If they see the other 2 have the same color eyes then they walk away. If the person walking away had blue eyes then the two left standing know they have green and the person walking away needs to kill themselves. If the person walking away had green eyes then they know they have green and have to kill themselves. If everyone walks away then they all had the same color eyes and should form another group of 3. Eventually everyone on the island knows what colour eyes they have.
Menkaure Amarr Vanitas Corp.	Posted - 2007.01.11 16:12:00 - [4] reflection in some still water?
Eszencia Amarr The Black Fleet	Posted - 2007.01.11 17:29:00 - [5] Edited by: Eszencia on 11/01/2007 17:26:58 edited: i'm stupid. Esz.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.11 17:36:00 - [6] Hmm that's a tricky one. Maybe everyone goes around stabbing every blue eyed person they meet. If you get stabbed, you know you're blue eyed so you finish killing yourself. Or does stabbing count as communication? --------------------------------------------------------------------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.11 17:41:00 - [7] Another thought occurs. Is any outside influence allowed? For example, an explorer finds the island and tells the inhabitants what colour their eyes are. The only communication restriction is on the islanders themselves. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Etumretniw Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.01.11 17:42:00 - [8] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Hmm that's a tricky one. Maybe everyone goes around stabbing every blue eyed person they meet. If you get stabbed, you know you're blue eyed so you finish killing yourself. Or does stabbing count as communication? That was my thought also. I think it might count as communication though, or they could just as well just tap the blue-eyed people on the shoulder, same effect, but thats clearly communication. Masuat'aa Matari website Ushra'Khan Recruitment thread
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.11 17:44:00 - [9] Originally by: Etumretniw Originally by: ReaperOfSly Hmm that's a tricky one. Maybe everyone goes around stabbing every blue eyed person they meet. If you get stabbed, you know you're blue eyed so you finish killing yourself. Or does stabbing count as communication? That was my thought also. I think it might count as communication though, or they could just as well just tap the blue-eyed people on the shoulder, same effect, but thats clearly communication. Well not really because they're not allowed to communicate beforehand what their signal is to tell someone they are blue eyed. Being stabbed however, is a clear sign you're blue eyed, because green eyes aren't allowed to come to harm. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Etumretniw Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.01.11 17:53:00 - [10] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Etumretniw Originally by: ReaperOfSly Hmm that's a tricky one. Maybe everyone goes around stabbing every blue eyed person they meet. If you get stabbed, you know you're blue eyed so you finish killing yourself. Or does stabbing count as communication? That was my thought also. I think it might count as communication though, or they could just as well just tap the blue-eyed people on the shoulder, same effect, but thats clearly communication. Well not really because they're not allowed to communicate beforehand what their signal is to tell someone they are blue eyed. Being stabbed however, is a clear sign you're blue eyed, because green eyes aren't allowed to come to harm. Yeah, maybe you're right. What it all comes down to is how you define communication though. It could be said that anything that is done by a human that can be interpreted and understood by another human is communication, in wich case the islanders are in trouble. :) Masuat'aa Matari website Ushra'Khan Recruitment thread
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.11 18:01:00 - [11] Originally by: Etumretniw Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Etumretniw Originally by: ReaperOfSly Hmm that's a tricky one. Maybe everyone goes around stabbing every blue eyed person they meet. If you get stabbed, you know you're blue eyed so you finish killing yourself. Or does stabbing count as communication? That was my thought also. I think it might count as communication though, or they could just as well just tap the blue-eyed people on the shoulder, same effect, but thats clearly communication. Well not really because they're not allowed to communicate beforehand what their signal is to tell someone they are blue eyed. Being stabbed however, is a clear sign you're blue eyed, because green eyes aren't allowed to come to harm. Yeah, maybe you're right. What it all comes down to is how you define communication though. It could be said that anything that is done by a human that can be interpreted and understood by another human is communication, in wich case the islanders are in trouble. :) Well maybe an adjustment can be made. If the blue eyed folk were stabbed in such a way as to mortally wound them and cause them a slow and painful death, they might suicide early to avoid the pain, without once thinking about their god's commandment. --------------------------------------------------------------------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.11 18:02:00 - [12] I've just thought of another possibility. People could go around gouging out the eyes of any blue eyed people. Then the blue eyed people aren't blue eyed any more (they're red socketed ), and nobody needs to commit suicide. --------------------------------------------------------------------
jbob2000 Gallente KIA Corp	Posted - 2007.01.11 18:08:00 - [13] Originally by: Weebear Edited by: Weebear on 11/01/2007 16:11:36 Surely if they split into groups of 3, each person can see what colour eyes the other 2 have. If they see the other 2 have the same color eyes then they walk away. If the person walking away had blue eyes then the two left standing know they have green and the person walking away needs to kill themselves. If the person walking away had green eyes then they know they have blue and have to kill themselves. If everyone walks away then they all had the same color eyes and should form another group of 3. Eventually everyone on the island knows what colour eyes they have. Seems like the answer, but looks copy and pasted.
Weebear The Bowrey	Posted - 2007.01.11 18:47:00 - [14] Originally by: jbob2000 Seems like the answer, but looks copy and pasted. Hmmm ignoring the fact that text can't look copy and pasted, you can check my edit on eve-search, and then google it to prove that it is indeed my own answer! It might not even be right depending on your interpretation of the question!
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.01.11 18:55:00 - [15] im pretty sure you have all missed the point.. ok ok that was harsh, i dont hate mods.. as an apology the mod who shows the most wuv gets a free mercedes...
Etumretniw Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.01.11 19:21:00 - [16] Originally by: Mtthias Clemi im pretty sure you have all missed the point.. That its all about that stupid "The Game"? Yeah, I saw that, but assumed that its still a real riddle. I might be wrong though... Copine? Masuat'aa Matari website Ushra'Khan Recruitment thread
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.11 23:00:00 - [17] Unless anyone can point out a flaw in my stabbing strategy, I hereby claim I have solved the riddle! --------------------------------------------------------------------
Admai Sket	Posted - 2007.01.11 23:26:00 - [18] Can anyone confirm that this thread is a complete joke, all centred around 'THE GAME' or whether it is a solvable riddle with an added joke of 'THE GAME' ? Sig removed, due to inappropriate content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your sig!) -wystler - Fantastic! Thanks! :)
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.12 00:03:00 - [19] Originally by: Admai Sket Can anyone confirm that this thread is a complete joke, all centred around 'THE GAME' or whether it is a solvable riddle with an added joke of 'THE GAME' ? Would seem a bit elaborate if it's just for "the game". I imagine it was just an added joke. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Admai Sket	Posted - 2007.01.12 00:12:00 - [20] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Admai Sket Can anyone confirm that this thread is a complete joke, all centred around 'THE GAME' or whether it is a solvable riddle with an added joke of 'THE GAME' ? Would seem a bit elaborate if it's just for "the game". I imagine it was just an added joke. ah. ok - so what's the answer? i was thinking along the lines of groups of three etc. -------------- Sig removed, due to inappropriate content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your sig!) -wystler - Fantastic! Thanks! :)
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.12 00:23:00 - [21] Originally by: Admai Sket Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Admai Sket Can anyone confirm that this thread is a complete joke, all centred around 'THE GAME' or whether it is a solvable riddle with an added joke of 'THE GAME' ? Would seem a bit elaborate if it's just for "the game". I imagine it was just an added joke. ah. ok - so what's the answer? i was thinking along the lines of groups of three etc. That the islanders would go around stabbing (or in some way harming) anyone they saw with blue eyes. If you got stabbed, you would know you had blue eyes because green eyed people may not be harmed. Thus, they would know to kill themselves, and everyone would go to heaven. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Admai Sket	Posted - 2007.01.12 00:31:00 - [22] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Admai Sket Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Admai Sket Can anyone confirm that this thread is a complete joke, all centred around 'THE GAME' or whether it is a solvable riddle with an added joke of 'THE GAME' ? Would seem a bit elaborate if it's just for "the game". I imagine it was just an added joke. ah. ok - so what's the answer? i was thinking along the lines of groups of three etc. That the islanders would go around stabbing (or in some way harming) anyone they saw with blue eyes. If you got stabbed, you would know you had blue eyes because green eyed people may not be harmed. Thus, they would know to kill themselves, and everyone would go to heaven. but wouldn't the stabbing be taken to be communicating in some way, though? -------------- Sig removed, due to inappropriate content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your sig!) -wystler - Fantastic! Thanks! :)

Deckard Bishop Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.12 00:33:00 - [23] It's a simple answer . . . all blue eyed people have blond hair. forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website!

ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.12 00:41:00 - [24] Originally by: Admai Sket Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Admai Sket Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Admai Sket Can anyone confirm that this thread is a complete joke, all centred around 'THE GAME' or whether it is a solvable riddle with an added joke of 'THE GAME' ? Would seem a bit elaborate if it's just for "the game". I imagine it was just an added joke. ah. ok - so what's the answer? i was thinking along the lines of groups of three etc. That the islanders would go around stabbing (or in some way harming) anyone they saw with blue eyes. If you got stabbed, you would know you had blue eyes because green eyed people may not be harmed. Thus, they would know to kill themselves, and everyone would go to heaven. but wouldn't the stabbing be taken to be communicating in some way, though? That's the only fuzzy point, but I don't believe it does count as communication. However, if you insist that it does, I could add a small addendum. The stabbing is done in such a way as to induce a slow painful death (a gut wound for example), such that the victim would rather kill himself than endure it. That way, the victim need not derive any information from his attacker concerning his eye colour - he will kill himself regardless. This is one brutally sadistic god by the way. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Nex Angelus Caldari Hypherians	Posted - 2007.01.12 00:53:00 - [25] Originally by: Copine Callmeknau 7) You just lost the game Damn you!

Nag	Posted - 2007.01.12 01:32:00 - [26] 2 people start by standing side by side, lets just say that they both have green eyes. Next someone stands by their side, lets say this one has blue eyes. Now the 4th person just has to look at the line of 3 people and he gets in the line between the blue eyed guy and the green eyed guy, it does¦nt matter what color his eyes is because everyone after that does the same. They just get into the line between green eyes and blue eyes. Then you end up with one large line of people standing side by side, on one side green, other side blue. That way you have them divided up. Then the blues should realise that they are blue eyed cause the other group has green eyes and out of their kindness and love for their fellow man, the all commit suicide. ------------ CCP Lead Illustrator \|^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\| \|\| \|...BREE TRUCK..........\| \|\|'\|";, ___. \|_..._..._______===\|=\|\|_\|__\|..., ] - "(@)'(@)"""''"\|(@)(@)***''(@) <3 Kaemonn Fixed by Immy

Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.12 01:54:00 - [27] Originally by: Nag 2 people start by standing side by side, lets just say that they both have green eyes. Next someone stands by their side, lets say this one has blue eyes. Now the 4th person just has to look at the line of 3 people and he gets in the line between the blue eyed guy and the green eyed guy, it does¦nt matter what color his eyes is because everyone after that does the same. They just get into the line between green eyes and blue eyes. Then you end up with one large line of people standing side by side, on one side green, other side blue. That way you have them divided up. Then the blues should realise that they are blue eyed cause the other group has green eyes and out of their kindness and love for their fellow man, the all commit suicide. Also I just lost The Game and don't want to admit it because I'm a Dev. Also I smell. Smarty pants............ -----------------------------------------------
Ryysa North Face Force	Posted - 2007.01.12 02:53:00 - [28] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Nag 2 people start by standing side by side, lets just say that they both have green eyes. Next someone stands by their side, lets say this one has blue eyes. Now the 4th person just has to look at the line of 3 people and he gets in the line between the blue eyed guy and the green eyed guy, it does¦nt matter what color his eyes is because everyone after that does the same. They just get into the line between green eyes and blue eyes. Then you end up with one large line of people standing side by side, on one side green, other side blue. That way you have them divided up. Then the blues should realise that they are blue eyed cause the other group has green eyes and out of their kindness and love for their fellow man, the all commit suicide. Also I just lost The Game and don't want to admit it because I'm a Dev. Also I smell. Smarty pants............ Nah, someone just knows sorting algorithms :) All about target jamming & The Logoffski guide
Hananakajima	Posted - 2007.01.12 02:53:00 - [29] any way of showing the other what color of eyes they have is giving over a message or information.. that is comunication in a senc.. the only way to do it is by checking yourself. That stuff about the water being too murky to check is crap since it should reflect better if it is. Even if it is to murky you can just filter it a bit and put it in a bowl. It is a trick question and you all lost both the ridle and the GAME. Making me less of a loser by just losig the GAME.
Copine Callmeknau The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.12 03:25:00 - [30] Originally by: Etumretniw Originally by: ReaperOfSly Hmm that's a tricky one. Maybe everyone goes around stabbing every blue eyed person they meet. If you get stabbed, you know you're blue eyed so you finish killing yourself. Or does stabbing count as communication? That was my thought also. I think it might count as communication though, or they could just as well just tap the blue-eyed people on the shoulder, same effect, but thats clearly communication. Yes, this counts as communication, because basically you're poking them as a sign to tell them they're blue eyed, it's just a conincidince that what you're poking them with is sharp and pointy. Originally by: ReaperOfSly That's the only fuzzy point, but I don't believe it does count as communication. However, if you insist that it does, I could add a small addendum. The stabbing is done in such a way as to induce a slow painful death (a gut wound for example), such that the victim would rather kill himself than endure it. That way, the victim need not derive any information from his attacker concerning his eye colour - he will kill himself regardless. Still communication I'm afraid, remember that green eyed people are to come to no harm. All the islanders know this and therefore they would know they are blue eyed when they are stabbed. Originally by: Etumretniw Originally by: Mtthias Clemi im pretty sure you have all missed the point.. That its all about that stupid "The Game"? Yeah, I saw that, but assumed that its still a real riddle. I might be wrong though... Copine? It's a real riddle, I'm just a bastard so I added #7 on there :p Originally by: Weebear Edited by: Weebear on 11/01/2007 16:11:36 Surely if they split into groups of 3, each person can see what colour eyes the other 2 have. If they see the other 2 have the same color eyes then they walk away. If the person walking away had blue eyes then the two left standing know they have green and the person walking away needs to kill themselves. If the person walking away had green eyes then they know they have blue and have to kill themselves. If everyone walks away then they all had the same color eyes and should form another group of 3. Eventually everyone on the island knows what colour eyes they have. V. Good answer Originally by: Nag 2 people start by standing side by side, lets just say that they both have green eyes. Next someone stands by their side, lets say this one has blue eyes. Now the 4th person just has to look at the line of 3 people and he gets in the line between the blue eyed guy and the green eyed guy, it does¦nt matter what color his eyes is because everyone after that does the same. They just get into the line between green eyes and blue eyes. Then you end up with one large line of people standing side by side, on one side green, other side blue. That way you have them divided up. Then the blues should realise that they are blue eyed cause the other group has green eyes and out of their kindness and love for their fellow man, the all commit suicide. Another v. Good answer Originally by: Deckard Bishop It's a simple answer . . . all blue eyed people have blond hair. Ahh, but then you have the exact same problem of identifying who has blond hair and who doesn't I'm just giong to clarify one small thing, which is that answers must be logical, ie they can't find some magic reflecting pool on the island, can't have aliens come down and sort everyone out, can't have mysterious travellers arrive and sort it out etc Any more solutions? ----- Originally by: RUNYOUFOOLS wrong on so many levels you could only be more wrong if you where tuxford.

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