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lmmortalist
lmmortality Associates
132
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Posted - 2015.12.09 13:28:49 -
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Serial Ship Slammer wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Someone actually uses skins? Says the man with the monocle and the fancy duds.
Oh but the monocle and my cool & fashionable clothes are visible to everyone (thus also reflecting my superiority over the rest of you) whereas skins aren't visible in game cause everyone plays zoomed out anyway. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
26692
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Posted - 2015.12.09 13:39:38 -
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lmmortalist wrote:Serial Ship Slammer wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Someone actually uses skins? Says the man with the monocle and the fancy duds. Oh but the monocle and my cool & fashionable clothes are visible to everyone (thus also reflecting my superiority over the rest of you) whereas skins aren't visible in game cause everyone plays zoomed out anyway. Lots of carebears play zoomed in. Most people who actually engage in combat don't, ofc.
I'm sure many explorers play zoomed in as well, carebears or not. Or truckers. A trucker spends most time alone in warp.
Most visual fidelity is made for people who play zoomed in ... ... so believing everyone plays zoomed out is complete nonsense.
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
980
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Posted - 2015.12.09 14:08:12 -
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lmmortalist wrote:Serial Ship Slammer wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Someone actually uses skins? Says the man with the monocle and the fancy duds. Oh but the monocle and my cool & fashionable clothes are visible to everyone (thus also reflecting my superiority over the rest of you) whereas skins aren't visible in game cause everyone plays zoomed out anyway. Not everyone sees your character portrait either. They usually aren't paying attention to them.
Also, I zoom in. I like the visuals in this game. The ships, the explosions, the characters, the stations, etc. Which is why I've bought several skins as well as, yes, clothes and a tattoo for this character. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
9619
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Posted - 2015.12.09 14:10:14 -
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Solecist Project wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Serial Ship Slammer wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Someone actually uses skins? Says the man with the monocle and the fancy duds. Oh but the monocle and my cool & fashionable clothes are visible to everyone (thus also reflecting my superiority over the rest of you) whereas skins aren't visible in game cause everyone plays zoomed out anyway. Lots of carebears play zoomed in. Most people who actually engage in combat don't, ofc. I'm sure many explorers play zoomed in as well, carebears or not. Or truckers. A trucker spends most time alone in warp. Most visual fidelity is made for people who play zoomed in ... ... so believing everyone plays zoomed out is complete nonsense. Not only that. Everyone. And I mean EVERYONE likes to admire their ships every once in a while. Anyone who says they don't ship spin is lying.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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lmmortalist
lmmortality Associates
132
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Posted - 2015.12.09 14:24:40 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Serial Ship Slammer wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Someone actually uses skins? Says the man with the monocle and the fancy duds. Oh but the monocle and my cool & fashionable clothes are visible to everyone (thus also reflecting my superiority over the rest of you) whereas skins aren't visible in game cause everyone plays zoomed out anyway. Not everyone sees your character portrait either. They usually aren't paying attention to them.
But they do! In the forums the portraits are very visible and in the peoples' minds unconsciously connected with the nicknames next to them. And after all, the most important features of Eve online are obviously the forums and the chat channels. |
Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1779
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Posted - 2015.12.09 14:43:41 -
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In short: Style matters.
But this is a horrible ugly skin for an ugly ship which is given to people who buy 28.... TWENTYEIGHT plexes. Man's gotta have a hobby but 28 plexes is just lol, especially if you try and justify it with the terrible "free" skin. And the "well, we can so there" is no different from some clown in a 70 bil Nightmare (while still shitfit) doing lvl 4 mission and then gets ganked, we laugh at those as well. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
26758
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Posted - 2015.12.09 14:47:50 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Not only that. Everyone. And I mean EVERYONE likes to admire their ships every once in a while. Anyone who says they don't ship spin is lying. Mr Epeen I agree wholeheartedly and I play zoomed out mostly.
lmmortalist wrote:
But they do! In the forums the portraits are very visible and in the peoples' minds unconsciously connected with the nicknames next to them. And after all, the most important features of Eve online are obviously the forums and the chat channels.
Can confirm, people look at my char as if it was naked or something...........
And I use portraits actively to get guesses about a player's character or intentions. At some point I managed to deduct from the pic alone if the player was into having sexy times.
Either I am really good at that, or I'm irresistable.
You decide.... ;)
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
10443
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Posted - 2015.12.09 15:48:16 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:In short: Style matters.
But this is a horrible ugly skin for an ugly ship which is given to people who buy 28.... TWENTYEIGHT plexes. Man's gotta have a hobby but 28 plexes is just lol, especially if you try and justify it with the terrible "free" skin. And the "well, we can so there" is no different from some clown in a 70 bil Nightmare (while still shitfit) doing lvl 4 mission and then gets ganked, we laugh at those as well. Your ancestors prayed to some kind of mother nature clay figurines for fat mamooths and even came to the point of drawing them on the walls of caves, in butt clenching fear of cave bears, and you only laugh? Tsk, tsk, tsk.
Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
26814
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Posted - 2015.12.09 16:24:44 -
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How much are the skins anyway?
I hesitate to drop 100 bucks into the game for a mere six billion ...
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Tetsel
Heretic Army I N F A M O U S
208
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Posted - 2015.12.09 16:41:28 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:The Golden Serpent wrote:These may be ugly mauve skins but for $500 this will be the rarest skin in the game only owned by people with jobs and no kids and the machissimo to buy dirty pink. I know a couple of gentlemen inside PL with 250bil+ each and multiple super/titan toons. These people can surely afford the SKINs you mention, however if they're not actively flying them or even buying them what does that tell you?
How having +250B isk & multiple titans toons makes you believe they have 500$ to purchase those PLEX and get those SKINS as rewards ?
Loyal servent to Mother Amamake.
@EVE_Tetsel
Another Bittervet Please Ignore
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Budrick3
Quantum Wolves
175
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Posted - 2015.12.09 16:55:54 -
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I personally think it shows how skewed and out of tune ccp marketing is. The majority of people probably would not mind buying plex or Aurum for a cool skin promotion, bit 28 plex is an underscore of how ccp continues to alienate its costumer base. It sets the goal so unreachable for most that they say bump that.
Gonna put myself on as pedestal for an example. I've got close to 100 billion in assets and isk and a nice rl savings, so why the heck would I spend hundreds of dollars on something I simply don't need? That is not being a good steward of my money, and is the reason I'm not begging on the street.
But let's say that offer was more reasonable like a three plex deal. Though I don't need it, I could twist my arm to take advantage of the promotion.
And this folks is why ccp will always mutter in silence that they don't have enough money because they lack the intellect regarding marketing. Every other mmo company has figured this out many eons ago. Offer unique items at middle price and offer them frequently. Customers with come in droves consistently and profit will increase. |
Thalos Elongus
30plus Fidelas Constans
21
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Posted - 2015.12.09 18:07:52 -
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Ok...
I just bought about 60 plex in jita... Who do i contact for the skins?
=ƒÿü |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
26851
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Posted - 2015.12.09 18:23:17 -
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Thalos Elongus wrote:Ok... I just bought about 60 plex in jita... Who do i contact for the skins? =ƒÿü Hi there, handsome ..... ;)
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Thalos Elongus
30plus Fidelas Constans
22
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Posted - 2015.12.09 19:05:36 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Thalos Elongus wrote:Ok... I just bought about 60 plex in jita... Who do i contact for the skins? =ƒÿü Hi there, handsome ..... ;)
Hi there Sexy...
First thanks a lot for your intrest in my personallity. I am sorry, but I dont want to get your hopes up to much... I have a wife (aka a Jita alt) and she is holding all my plexes... I am just a poor guy...
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6533
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Posted - 2015.12.09 19:28:23 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Anyone who says they don't ship spin is lying. Mr Epeen
I used to ship spin all the time until they added a counter for it. Also thanks for signing your post, if you hadn't done that then I would never have known who was posting.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2057
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Posted - 2015.12.09 20:32:35 -
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Shots fired
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Imperium Mordor
175
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Posted - 2015.12.09 21:02:41 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Shots fired
Grabs popcorn
Empire, the next new world order.
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
26883
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Posted - 2015.12.09 21:19:45 -
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Thalos Elongus wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Thalos Elongus wrote:Ok... I just bought about 60 plex in jita... Who do i contact for the skins? =ƒÿü Hi there, handsome ..... ;) Hi there Sexy... First thanks a lot for your intrest in my personallity. I am sorry, but I dont want to get your hopes up to much... I have a wife (aka a Jita alt) and she is holding all my plexes... I am just a poor guy... That's one of the better responses I've got.
Thanks, made me chuckle. :D
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33043
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Posted - 2015.12.10 03:01:54 -
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Guard, real talk. I might buy this 28 pack, but I also might not.
I would because the current value of those Waschi SKINs is 9 Billion ISK, give or take.
I wouldn't because even with that much added ISK value to a PLEX pack, there's no guarantee the values of those SKINs will hold or mature. I simply don't trust SKINs to hold their value. Several SKINs are now being offered in discounted packs, randomly, and this makes SKIN investing a bad idea.
There's also nothing cool to use PLEX for. I play on annuals, and one of my characters has a stack of 16 PLEX sitting in Jita, all bought through PLEX sales. By extension, there's nothing cool to spend ISK on.
Some players might point out the value of that stack of PLEX will only mature, but I don't care about that. Whether I have 16 PLEX and a Billion ISK or 2,000 PLEX and 2 Trillion ISK, it doesn't bring any enjoyment to me. A Hel maybe, but someone seems to have a vendetta against anything above frigate and cruiser-class.
I try to have suggestions when I provide feedback, but I just don't know what would make this work. I know you're trying to entice me, and I want to be a good customer. I can honestly say though, if SKIN availability / exclusivity wasn't so erratic in the past, I would already have bought this 28 pack and posted about selling those SKINs for the extra ISK.
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33043
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Posted - 2015.12.10 03:05:42 -
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If those Waschi Parade SKINs are made available anywhere else, that is the problem I'm talking about. My guess is they're being offered in this 28-pack first, and will be in the NES individually later on.
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4816
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Posted - 2015.12.10 03:06:55 -
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Rain6637 wrote:If those Waschi Parade SKINs are made available anywhere else, that is the problem I'm talking about. My guess is they're being offered in this 28-pack first, and will be in the NES individually later on. Maybe. Or they'll be exclusive like the permanent Quafe, Blood Raider, Serpentis, etc. SKINs. But that's the $60,000 question, isn't it?
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33044
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Posted - 2015.12.10 03:09:18 -
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At first I thought they were just trying different combinations of SKIN and AUR or PLEX, to find something that works. But that never stabilized, and at this point it's just erratic. Players need to be promised a pattern of availability and it needs to be adhered to, for something like this SKIN offering to work.
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33044
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Posted - 2015.12.10 03:22:30 -
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If the Waschi SKINs are among this year's Christmas gifts a week from now, I won't be surprised.
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4816
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Posted - 2015.12.10 03:35:03 -
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Rain6637 wrote:If the Waschi SKINs are among this year's Christmas gifts a week from now, I won't be surprised. That would **** off a few players...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33044
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Posted - 2015.12.10 04:25:47 -
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Already happened with the Gnosis, and that's just the example I can recall off the top of my head.
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4816
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Posted - 2015.12.10 04:40:54 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Already happened with the Gnosis, and that's just the example I can recall off the top of my head. We haven't seen anything like this with SKINs (yet).
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33044
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Posted - 2015.12.10 04:43:20 -
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My suggestion, Guard, is you need a Vanity Item Product Manager. Someone whose job it is to keep track of when vanity items are offered, and for how long. It also helps to decide how exclusive an item will be, and be forthcoming about it. It's implied the Waschi SKINs are only available if you spend $490.00 USD, but there's no trust in that being the case.
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President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33044
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Posted - 2015.12.10 04:45:02 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Rain6637 wrote:Already happened with the Gnosis, and that's just the example I can recall off the top of my head. We haven't seen anything like this with SKINs (yet). We have, actually.
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President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4816
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Posted - 2015.12.10 04:52:47 -
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Rain6637 wrote:We have, actually. Oh?
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33045
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Posted - 2015.12.10 05:13:09 -
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In varying degrees, yes. Random sales of SKINs in packs like the one sale that ran recently, in account management. Might still be up, though I think it was just a black friday deal. To a lesser degree, Quafe SKINs were re-used for EVE Down Under.
Discounted offerings of SKINs in general, I'm going to say hurt the perceived value of all SKINs, ever.
When they're being offered as a bonus for digital goods costing nearly $500.00 USD, I'd say the perceived value is worth protecting. For some perspective, $500.00 USD buys an XBOX One on launch day. For a digital good.
According to market history, several 28-Packs have been purchased already. I think it's safe to say if these types of promotions were more successful, they would support the creation of a new position at CCP such as Vanity Item Product Manager.
I want to end my feedback on a positive note, so in closing I want to say I'm impressed that a digital good with such a high price point is being offered. I would like to see such a thing be wildly successful. I really do love you, CCP. No other game has come close to EVE.
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President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
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