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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4808
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Posted - 2015.12.08 13:40:31 -
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Unless they drop in the Frostline event, the only way to get the Mordus SKINs is with a 28 PLEX pack. Merry Christmas indeed... 
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
26289
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Posted - 2015.12.08 13:41:28 -
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Hu?
Screenshot please...
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4808
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Posted - 2015.12.08 13:42:14 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Hu? Screenshot please... Log into Account Management and click on Buy PLEX.
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Cometopappa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.12.08 13:59:09 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Unless they drop in the Frostline event, the only way to get the Mordus SKINs is with a 28 PLEX pack. Merry Christmas indeed... 
Christmas is about giving. Giving all your monies to CCP. |

big miker
Rifterlings Zero.Four Ops
398
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Posted - 2015.12.08 14:00:25 -
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SHOOT THE MONUMENT! MONOCLE-GATE 2.0 IS HERE!
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
9590
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Posted - 2015.12.08 14:00:57 -
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Ridiculous
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
26321
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Posted - 2015.12.08 14:43:25 -
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Misleading.
It's five skins for 28 PLEX. A whalesale, I guess ...
That's some expensive skins ... however, aren't these items dropping from frostbite sites?
It says frostbite right there. And I recall at least the clothes to definiteky be loot.
So, when that's the case... what's your issue exactly?
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
5171

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Posted - 2015.12.08 14:48:27 -
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The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear.
CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |-á@CCP_Guard
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
26322
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Posted - 2015.12.08 14:50:38 -
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CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. That was fast. XD
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Roderick Raholan
Order In Disorder Virtus Crusade Protectorate
30
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Posted - 2015.12.08 15:00:05 -
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But... But... I'm space poor.  |
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4808
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Posted - 2015.12.08 15:00:19 -
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CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. So can we buy the Parade SKINs from the NES Store then? Because otherwise, these are uber-expensive SKINs...
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Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
706
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Posted - 2015.12.08 15:02:11 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Ridiculous
Who actually cares?
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Mai Khumm
Lonetrek Freeport
731
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Posted - 2015.12.08 15:50:22 -
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CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. I'd buy PLEX if it came with a skin that paints a bullseye on my Orca...
Toronto EVE Thread!
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
4336
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Posted - 2015.12.08 16:25:27 -
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CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear.
It reminds me of when you don't buy a ticket to an event, but a 200 Gé¼ ballpoint with a free ticket to an event... 
CCP Seagull: "EVE should be a universe where the infrastructure you build and fight over is as player driven and dynamic as the EVE market is now".
62% of players: "We're not interested. May we have Plan B, please?"
CCP Seagull: "What Plan B?"
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Rylos Kanivel
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2015.12.08 16:36:46 -
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Just a tiny thing - the orthrus skin "Parade" on the PLEX reward is misspelled  |

Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12986
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Posted - 2015.12.08 16:40:55 -
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CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. TOO LATE, ARTHUR ALREADY GOT MEEEEERAAAAAARRGLRABLERABLE!!!!
seriously though it's a skin, who cares.
Better the Devil you know.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2029
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Posted - 2015.12.08 16:42:25 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. It reminds me of when you don't buy a ticket to an event, but a 200 Gé¼ ballpoint with a free ticket to an event... 
No, you are buying 28 plex (28billion isk/2+ years of game time) and getting some free skins, its like getting the little toy in the cereal box, you buy the cereal for the cereal the toy is just a little extra
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2029
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Posted - 2015.12.08 16:44:58 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Misleading.
It's five skins for 28 PLEX. A whalesale, I guess ...
That's some expensive skins ... however, aren't these items dropping from frostbite sites?
It says frostbite right there. And I recall at least the clothes to definiteky be loot.
So, when that's the case... what's your issue exactly?
Think it will be serpentis skins dropping not mordus legion because they are serpentis sites, not sure though
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12987
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Posted - 2015.12.08 17:44:04 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. It reminds me of when you don't buy a ticket to an event, but a 200 Gé¼ ballpoint with a free ticket to an event...  No, you are buying 28 plex (28billion isk/2+ years of game time) and getting some free skins, its like getting the little toy in the cereal box, you buy the cereal for the cereal the toy is just a little extra My arse ,as a parent I can verify that most of the decision making around cereal is the toy.
Only marginally beaten out by wether the shugar content is toxic for non-5 yolds
Better the Devil you know.
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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
10440
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Posted - 2015.12.08 17:47:50 -
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Everyone knows you want the toy, not 28 PLEX. I suppose it will be cheaper than 28 PLEX in the game market, but I may be wrong. :P
Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2032
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Posted - 2015.12.08 17:50:47 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. It reminds me of when you don't buy a ticket to an event, but a 200 Gé¼ ballpoint with a free ticket to an event...  No, you are buying 28 plex (28billion isk/2+ years of game time) and getting some free skins, its like getting the little toy in the cereal box, you buy the cereal for the cereal the toy is just a little extra My arse ,as a parent I can verify that most of the decision making around cereal is the toy. Only marginally beaten out by wether the shugar content is toxic for non-5 yolds
actually this is true however you dont get a toy in the box anymore :( cereal is dying
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Trajan Unknown
Rifterlings Zero.Four Ops
72
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Posted - 2015.12.08 19:39:37 -
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CCP please, I just bought a package. Now I have to convince my wife that I have to drop another 500 bucks on EvE :D So CCP just made me pay my wifes tattoo so I can buy my "toys". |

Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
426
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Posted - 2015.12.08 19:56:20 -
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You know, when you make a big purchase over 500 bucks in the corner shop, and get a free piece of candy with it? Doesn't mean you bought a piece of candy for 500 bucks. It's the same here. You buy 28 PLEX, and you get a bonus on top. If you want the SKIN, and are unwilling to buy 28 PLEX all at once, buy them on the market afterwards. The SKINS don't cost 28 PLEX. If anything, they cost nothing, because you get 28 PLEX and SKINs for the price of 28 PLEX and no SKINs. Freebies!
Kids these days... so entitled! |

Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1057
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Posted - 2015.12.08 20:18:49 -
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This is indeed threadworthy.
Remove insurance.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12994
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Posted - 2015.12.08 20:36:42 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:This is indeed threadworthy. would be if we kept the cereal theme going, pitty.
Better the Devil you know.
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Griff Hardstone
The Scope Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2015.12.08 22:16:26 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Mara Pahrdi wrote:This is indeed threadworthy. would be if we kept the cereal theme going, pitty.
Ever notice when you dump the cereal out on the table to get the toy, when it came time to put the cereal back into the box it never fit quite right? I should say something about the skins so it won't be construed as off topic. |

Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
973
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Posted - 2015.12.08 22:19:18 -
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What kind of tryhard buys 28 PLEX anyway? |

Amber Starview
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2015.12.08 22:23:28 -
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How could you be mad over a free gift ? you fooled me clicking this but am happy ccp cleared up your lack of facts
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Moon Moon Burdy
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
175
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Posted - 2015.12.08 22:29:37 -
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Mai Khumm wrote:CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. I'd buy PLEX if it came with a skin that paints a bullseye on my Orca...
Aren't bullseyes on Orca's kind of a stock feature already?
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Violet Hurst
Fedaya Recon
62
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Posted - 2015.12.08 22:59:35 -
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Solecist Project wrote:whalesale

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Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1772
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Posted - 2015.12.08 23:13:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear.
28 plex packages? Really? |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1719
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Posted - 2015.12.08 23:21:14 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. It reminds me of when you don't buy a ticket to an event, but a 200 Gé¼ ballpoint with a free ticket to an event... 
That used to be a thing when OEM software first emerged. You could buy thirty dollar mouse mats with a free copy of Microsoft Office bundled in. At some stage people must have changed licensing conditions because all that random stuff with "free" OEM software bundled eventually disappeared.
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Jock Johnson
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.12.08 23:31:00 -
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Could you imagine when the offer ends ?
You would buy 28 PLEX with no skin ! |

lmmortalist
lmmortality Associates
132
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Posted - 2015.12.09 00:31:37 -
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Someone actually uses skins? |

Serial Ship Slammer
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2015.12.09 01:01:10 -
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lmmortalist wrote:Someone actually uses skins? Says the man with the monocle and the fancy duds.  |

Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
26448
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Posted - 2015.12.09 01:26:23 -
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Violet Hurst wrote:Solecist Project wrote:whalesale  Finally someone. :D
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
13001
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Posted - 2015.12.09 02:06:23 -
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Serial Ship Slammer wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Someone actually uses skins? Says the man with the monocle and the fancy duds.  ha!
Better the Devil you know.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6527
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Posted - 2015.12.09 02:50:00 -
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Hey so since this is a PLEX sale thread I'm just going to point out that CCP's current sales pitch is "Buy PLEX so you can afford faction mods". **** move CCP, **** move.
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
429
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Posted - 2015.12.09 02:55:40 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Hey so since this is a PLEX sale thread I'm just going to point out that CCP's current sales pitch is "Buy PLEX so you can afford faction mods". **** move CCP, **** move.
People are always yelling about how the PLEX price is too high, and that CCP should fix it. Surely an influx of PLEX can't hurt in that reagard. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6527
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Posted - 2015.12.09 03:05:52 -
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Neuntausend wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Hey so since this is a PLEX sale thread I'm just going to point out that CCP's current sales pitch is "Buy PLEX so you can afford faction mods". **** move CCP, **** move. People are always yelling about how the PLEX price is too high, and that CCP should fix it. Surely an influx of PLEX can't hurt in that reagard.
It isn't the result that bothers me, it's the method they're using to obtain said result. There are plenty of ways to get people to buy these things with out resorting to this tactic.
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Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
710
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Posted - 2015.12.09 04:50:12 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. 28 plex packages? Really?
This is not news. Youve been able to buy large volume packs for years.
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
208
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Posted - 2015.12.09 05:38:36 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. It reminds me of when you don't buy a ticket to an event, but a 200 Gé¼ ballpoint with a free ticket to an event... 
your logic always amuses me. :)
Just Add Water
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Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1775
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Posted - 2015.12.09 06:25:54 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:Gregor Parud wrote:CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. 28 plex packages? Really? This is not news. Youve been able to buy large volume packs for years.
Oh sure but making a "special offer" with them is a bit... reaching? |

Captain Stupid
East of Ealing
170
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Posted - 2015.12.09 07:10:44 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Hey so since this is a PLEX sale thread I'm just going to point out that CCP's current sales pitch is "Buy PLEX so you can afford faction mods". **** move CCP, **** move. People are always yelling about how the PLEX price is too high, and that CCP should fix it. Surely an influx of PLEX can't hurt in that reagard. It isn't the result that bothers me, it's the method they're using to obtain said result. There are plenty of ways to get people to buy these things with out resorting to this tactic.
Oh look! A goon with morals! Oh hang on have I turned this to a grr goons now?
Er, on topic, don't most people zoom out making skins kinda pointless? |

Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
710
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Posted - 2015.12.09 07:45:19 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:Gregor Parud wrote:CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. 28 plex packages? Really? This is not news. Youve been able to buy large volume packs for years. Oh sure but making a "special offer" with them is a bit... reaching?
No, it's not. It's a bonus cosmetic item that just happens to be offered with that particular plex package and furthermore if you're not the kind of customer who buys bulk plex for cash then you're not the target audience of this scheme.
So in other words if you're not prepared to pay the cash or contract for isk then you have nothing to worry about.
This isn't p2w. Noones feelings should be getting hurt. Worst case scenario someone buys 28plex valued at 28bil and then gets a skin they peddle for 28bil to double their money.
As above if you aren't interested in the wager then you have really got very little ground for complaint. This isn't golden ammo, it's a functionally worthless cosmetic just like you monocle. ;-)
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2036
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Posted - 2015.12.09 08:12:34 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:What kind of tryhard buys 28 PLEX anyway?
we gotta get ratting supers somehow...
now only if they made the skins exclusive to the 28 plex then we could see who all the rich people are
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
26517
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Posted - 2015.12.09 08:35:37 -
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I'm wondering how long it would take me to resell these 28 PLEX ...
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Belthazor4011
For Your Bacon Only The Marmite Collective
242
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Posted - 2015.12.09 09:51:12 -
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CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear.
Will it hit the NES store or is this skin intentionally over the top silly 'expensive' on purpose?
Lets face it, not that many will spend the money to get 28 PLEX... |

Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2037
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Posted - 2015.12.09 10:07:16 -
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Belthazor4011 wrote:CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. Will it hit the NES store or is this skin intentionally over the top silly 'expensive' on purpose? Lets face it, not that many will spend the money to get 28 PLEX...
how do you know not many will spend to buy 28 plex? new players buy characters, people buy supers etc etc 28 plex is probably purchased quite often
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Belthazor4011
For Your Bacon Only The Marmite Collective
243
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Posted - 2015.12.09 10:27:11 -
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Because the cheapest of these SKINs is 4b?
Because not everyone has a couple hundred bucks to spend on a game or even if they can they don't out of principle, its too much for what you get in return?
Because SKINs are awesome but literally all of them are too expensive to make sense?
The most expensive one should be 10mil not 10bil (special ones, for instance Tournament Prices excepted of course).
But a normal skin for a normal frig or cruiser should be a few mil. Creating a system that asks more than that is a bit silly in a game where 80% of the players play 80% of their time in space too far zoomed out to see their own SKIN anyways.
Or make much cheaper 'single' use ones, I barely lose a ship anyways. A single use one will last me a long time.
The paint of your house or car should not cost more than the house or car itself 
Regardless its all opinion anyways I'd just like CCP to confirm what the intend is with this particular SKIN set. If its intended to be this expensive/exclusive |
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Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
711
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Posted - 2015.12.09 10:33:19 -
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Belthazor4011 wrote:Because the cheapest of these SKINs is 4b?
Because not everyone has a couple hundred bucks to spend on a game or even if they can they don't out of principle, its too much for what you get in return?
Regardless its all opinion anyways I'd just like CCP to confirm what the intend is with this particular SKIN set. If its intended to be this expensive/exclusive
If SKINs are so expensive why aren't you farming them?
CCP don't have to justify what the market sells SKINs for. Where did you arrive at the conclusion that you were entitled to an explanation for something they don't directly supply?
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2038
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Posted - 2015.12.09 10:34:17 -
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plenty of people have hundreds of dollars to spend on games, thats how microtransactions work
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Belthazor4011
For Your Bacon Only The Marmite Collective
243
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Posted - 2015.12.09 10:47:05 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:If SKINs are so expensive why aren't you farming them?
CCP don't have to justify what the market sells SKINs for. Where did you arrive at the conclusion that you were entitled to an explanation for something they don't directly supply?
You know what skins are right?
That you can't 'farm' them?
That 95% of them don't drop and are store bought only?
That they are NES store only and therefore have an AUR value and since you can exchange PLEX for AUR or buy AUR directly, that thereby AUR and therefore SKINs have a price roughly controlled by CCP?
That therefore CCP actually does supply them?
No one is going to sell theirs at a loss just to make them cheaper are they? |

Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
712
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Posted - 2015.12.09 10:48:58 -
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Belthazor4011 wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:If SKINs are so expensive why aren't you farming them?
CCP don't have to justify what the market sells SKINs for. Where did you arrive at the conclusion that you were entitled to an explanation for something they don't directly supply? You know what skins are right? That you can't 'farm' them? That 95% of them don't drop and are store bought only? That they are NES store only and therefore have an AUR value and since you can exchange PLEX for AUR or buy AUR directly that AUR and therefore SKINs have a price roughly controlled by CCP? That therefore CCP actually does supply them? No one is going to sell theirs at a loss just to make them cheaper are they?
So what you're saying is that you're not part of the target demographic for these items?
And you're complaining why?
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Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1777
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Posted - 2015.12.09 10:53:11 -
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No it's more that we're lolling at people who ARE the target demographic and the fact that CCP even put a promotion on it. |

Belthazor4011
For Your Bacon Only The Marmite Collective
243
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Posted - 2015.12.09 10:54:25 -
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Well I gave an opinion that's all. And you're free to argue against that.
That said making an argument that has some relation to facts would be nice.
CCP is the ONLY supplier of SKINs and therefore I think its not that odd for me to nicely ask what their intend with this SKIN is. Since they are the ONLY ones that can answer that question.
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Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
712
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Posted - 2015.12.09 10:55:50 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:No it's more that we're lolling at people who ARE the target demographic and the fact that CCP even put a promotion on it.
Why do you scorn people who want something and are prepared to pay for it?
Do you laugh at moguls for their lambourghinis while the average joe drives toyota?
I deal in heavy duty components, you'd be amazed at what some stuff is """worth""".
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Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
712
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Posted - 2015.12.09 10:57:33 -
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Belthazor4011 wrote:Well I gave an opinion that's all. And you're free to argue against that.
That said making an argument that has some relation to facts would be nice.
CCP is the ONLY supplier of SKINs and therefore I think its not that odd for me to nicely ask what their intend with this SKIN is. Since they are the ONLY ones that can answer that question.
And I wouldn't be surprised if you never receive that answer. I'll give you a hint:
Because people will pay for it.
Like any luxury good, there will be a buyer somewhere, some time.
Oh and I should mention that reverse-redeeming plex to buy aurum is a thing and that you can buy plex via isk so technically farming skins is a feasible thing no?
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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The Golden Serpent
Order of Jamyl
149
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Posted - 2015.12.09 10:59:36 -
[59] - Quote
These may be ugly mauve skins but for $500 this will be the rarest skin in the game only owned by people with jobs and no kids and the machissimo to buy dirty pink. |

Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
712
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Posted - 2015.12.09 11:01:17 -
[60] - Quote
The Golden Serpent wrote:These may be ugly mauve skins but for $500 this will be the rarest skin in the game only owned by people with jobs and no kids and the machissimo to buy dirty pink.
I know a couple of gentlemen inside PL with 250bil+ each and multiple super/titan toons.
These people can surely afford the SKINs you mention, however if they're not actively flying them or even buying them what does that tell you?
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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lmmortalist
lmmortality Associates
132
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Posted - 2015.12.09 13:28:49 -
[61] - Quote
Serial Ship Slammer wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Someone actually uses skins? Says the man with the monocle and the fancy duds. 
Oh but the monocle and my cool & fashionable clothes are visible to everyone (thus also reflecting my superiority over the rest of you) whereas skins aren't visible in game cause everyone plays zoomed out anyway. |

Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
26692
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Posted - 2015.12.09 13:39:38 -
[62] - Quote
lmmortalist wrote:Serial Ship Slammer wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Someone actually uses skins? Says the man with the monocle and the fancy duds.  Oh but the monocle and my cool & fashionable clothes are visible to everyone (thus also reflecting my superiority over the rest of you) whereas skins aren't visible in game cause everyone plays zoomed out anyway. Lots of carebears play zoomed in. Most people who actually engage in combat don't, ofc.
I'm sure many explorers play zoomed in as well, carebears or not. Or truckers. A trucker spends most time alone in warp.
Most visual fidelity is made for people who play zoomed in ... ... so believing everyone plays zoomed out is complete nonsense.
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
980
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Posted - 2015.12.09 14:08:12 -
[63] - Quote
lmmortalist wrote:Serial Ship Slammer wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Someone actually uses skins? Says the man with the monocle and the fancy duds.  Oh but the monocle and my cool & fashionable clothes are visible to everyone (thus also reflecting my superiority over the rest of you) whereas skins aren't visible in game cause everyone plays zoomed out anyway. Not everyone sees your character portrait either. They usually aren't paying attention to them.
Also, I zoom in. I like the visuals in this game. The ships, the explosions, the characters, the stations, etc. Which is why I've bought several skins as well as, yes, clothes and a tattoo for this character. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
9619
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Posted - 2015.12.09 14:10:14 -
[64] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Serial Ship Slammer wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Someone actually uses skins? Says the man with the monocle and the fancy duds.  Oh but the monocle and my cool & fashionable clothes are visible to everyone (thus also reflecting my superiority over the rest of you) whereas skins aren't visible in game cause everyone plays zoomed out anyway. Lots of carebears play zoomed in. Most people who actually engage in combat don't, ofc. I'm sure many explorers play zoomed in as well, carebears or not. Or truckers. A trucker spends most time alone in warp. Most visual fidelity is made for people who play zoomed in ... ... so believing everyone plays zoomed out is complete nonsense. Not only that. Everyone. And I mean EVERYONE likes to admire their ships every once in a while. Anyone who says they don't ship spin is lying.
Mr Epeen 
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lmmortalist
lmmortality Associates
132
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Posted - 2015.12.09 14:24:40 -
[65] - Quote
Primary This Rifter wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Serial Ship Slammer wrote:lmmortalist wrote:Someone actually uses skins? Says the man with the monocle and the fancy duds.  Oh but the monocle and my cool & fashionable clothes are visible to everyone (thus also reflecting my superiority over the rest of you) whereas skins aren't visible in game cause everyone plays zoomed out anyway. Not everyone sees your character portrait either. They usually aren't paying attention to them.
But they do! In the forums the portraits are very visible and in the peoples' minds unconsciously connected with the nicknames next to them. And after all, the most important features of Eve online are obviously the forums and the chat channels. |

Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1779
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Posted - 2015.12.09 14:43:41 -
[66] - Quote
In short: Style matters.
But this is a horrible ugly skin for an ugly ship which is given to people who buy 28.... TWENTYEIGHT plexes. Man's gotta have a hobby but 28 plexes is just lol, especially if you try and justify it with the terrible "free" skin. And the "well, we can so there" is no different from some clown in a 70 bil Nightmare (while still shitfit) doing lvl 4 mission and then gets ganked, we laugh at those as well. |

Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
26758
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Posted - 2015.12.09 14:47:50 -
[67] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:Not only that. Everyone. And I mean EVERYONE likes to admire their ships every once in a while. Anyone who says they don't ship spin is lying. Mr Epeen  I agree wholeheartedly and I play zoomed out mostly.
lmmortalist wrote:
But they do! In the forums the portraits are very visible and in the peoples' minds unconsciously connected with the nicknames next to them. And after all, the most important features of Eve online are obviously the forums and the chat channels.
Can confirm, people look at my char as if it was naked or something...........
And I use portraits actively to get guesses about a player's character or intentions. At some point I managed to deduct from the pic alone if the player was into having sexy times.
Either I am really good at that, or I'm irresistable.
You decide.... ;)
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
10443
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Posted - 2015.12.09 15:48:16 -
[68] - Quote
Gregor Parud wrote:In short: Style matters.
But this is a horrible ugly skin for an ugly ship which is given to people who buy 28.... TWENTYEIGHT plexes. Man's gotta have a hobby but 28 plexes is just lol, especially if you try and justify it with the terrible "free" skin. And the "well, we can so there" is no different from some clown in a 70 bil Nightmare (while still shitfit) doing lvl 4 mission and then gets ganked, we laugh at those as well. Your ancestors prayed to some kind of mother nature clay figurines for fat mamooths and even came to the point of drawing them on the walls of caves, in butt clenching fear of cave bears, and you only laugh? Tsk, tsk, tsk.
Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
26814
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Posted - 2015.12.09 16:24:44 -
[69] - Quote
How much are the skins anyway?
I hesitate to drop 100 bucks into the game for a mere six billion ...
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Tetsel
Heretic Army I N F A M O U S
208
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Posted - 2015.12.09 16:41:28 -
[70] - Quote
Caleb Seremshur wrote:The Golden Serpent wrote:These may be ugly mauve skins but for $500 this will be the rarest skin in the game only owned by people with jobs and no kids and the machissimo to buy dirty pink. I know a couple of gentlemen inside PL with 250bil+ each and multiple super/titan toons. These people can surely afford the SKINs you mention, however if they're not actively flying them or even buying them what does that tell you?
How having +250B isk & multiple titans toons makes you believe they have 500$ to purchase those PLEX and get those SKINS as rewards ?
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Budrick3
Quantum Wolves
175
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Posted - 2015.12.09 16:55:54 -
[71] - Quote
I personally think it shows how skewed and out of tune ccp marketing is. The majority of people probably would not mind buying plex or Aurum for a cool skin promotion, bit 28 plex is an underscore of how ccp continues to alienate its costumer base. It sets the goal so unreachable for most that they say bump that.
Gonna put myself on as pedestal for an example. I've got close to 100 billion in assets and isk and a nice rl savings, so why the heck would I spend hundreds of dollars on something I simply don't need? That is not being a good steward of my money, and is the reason I'm not begging on the street.
But let's say that offer was more reasonable like a three plex deal. Though I don't need it, I could twist my arm to take advantage of the promotion.
And this folks is why ccp will always mutter in silence that they don't have enough money because they lack the intellect regarding marketing. Every other mmo company has figured this out many eons ago. Offer unique items at middle price and offer them frequently. Customers with come in droves consistently and profit will increase. |

Thalos Elongus
30plus Fidelas Constans
21
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Posted - 2015.12.09 18:07:52 -
[72] - Quote
Ok...
I just bought about 60 plex in jita... Who do i contact for the skins?
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
26851
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Posted - 2015.12.09 18:23:17 -
[73] - Quote
Thalos Elongus wrote: Ok... I just bought about 60 plex in jita... Who do i contact for the skins? =ƒÿü Hi there, handsome ..... ;)
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Thalos Elongus
30plus Fidelas Constans
22
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Posted - 2015.12.09 19:05:36 -
[74] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Thalos Elongus wrote: Ok... I just bought about 60 plex in jita... Who do i contact for the skins? =ƒÿü Hi there, handsome ..... ;)
Hi there Sexy...
First thanks a lot for your intrest in my personallity. I am sorry, but I dont want to get your hopes up to much... I have a wife (aka a Jita alt) and she is holding all my plexes... I am just a poor guy...
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6533
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Posted - 2015.12.09 19:28:23 -
[75] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:Anyone who says they don't ship spin is lying. Mr Epeen 
I used to ship spin all the time until they added a counter for it. Also thanks for signing your post, if you hadn't done that then I would never have known who was posting.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2057
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Posted - 2015.12.09 20:32:35 -
[76] - Quote
Shots fired 
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Imperium Mordor
175
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Posted - 2015.12.09 21:02:41 -
[77] - Quote
Lan Wang wrote:Shots fired 
Grabs popcorn 
Empire, the next new world order.
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
26883
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Posted - 2015.12.09 21:19:45 -
[78] - Quote
Thalos Elongus wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Thalos Elongus wrote: Ok... I just bought about 60 plex in jita... Who do i contact for the skins? =ƒÿü Hi there, handsome ..... ;) Hi there Sexy... First thanks a lot for your intrest in my personallity. I am sorry, but I dont want to get your hopes up to much... I have a wife (aka a Jita alt) and she is holding all my plexes... I am just a poor guy... That's one of the better responses I've got.
Thanks, made me chuckle. :D
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33043
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Posted - 2015.12.10 03:01:54 -
[79] - Quote
Guard, real talk. I might buy this 28 pack, but I also might not.
I would because the current value of those Waschi SKINs is 9 Billion ISK, give or take.
I wouldn't because even with that much added ISK value to a PLEX pack, there's no guarantee the values of those SKINs will hold or mature. I simply don't trust SKINs to hold their value. Several SKINs are now being offered in discounted packs, randomly, and this makes SKIN investing a bad idea.
There's also nothing cool to use PLEX for. I play on annuals, and one of my characters has a stack of 16 PLEX sitting in Jita, all bought through PLEX sales. By extension, there's nothing cool to spend ISK on.
Some players might point out the value of that stack of PLEX will only mature, but I don't care about that. Whether I have 16 PLEX and a Billion ISK or 2,000 PLEX and 2 Trillion ISK, it doesn't bring any enjoyment to me. A Hel maybe, but someone seems to have a vendetta against anything above frigate and cruiser-class.
I try to have suggestions when I provide feedback, but I just don't know what would make this work. I know you're trying to entice me, and I want to be a good customer. I can honestly say though, if SKIN availability / exclusivity wasn't so erratic in the past, I would already have bought this 28 pack and posted about selling those SKINs for the extra ISK.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33043
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Posted - 2015.12.10 03:05:42 -
[80] - Quote
If those Waschi Parade SKINs are made available anywhere else, that is the problem I'm talking about. My guess is they're being offered in this 28-pack first, and will be in the NES individually later on.
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4816
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Posted - 2015.12.10 03:06:55 -
[81] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote:If those Waschi Parade SKINs are made available anywhere else, that is the problem I'm talking about. My guess is they're being offered in this 28-pack first, and will be in the NES individually later on. Maybe. Or they'll be exclusive like the permanent Quafe, Blood Raider, Serpentis, etc. SKINs. But that's the $60,000 question, isn't it?
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33044
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Posted - 2015.12.10 03:09:18 -
[82] - Quote
At first I thought they were just trying different combinations of SKIN and AUR or PLEX, to find something that works. But that never stabilized, and at this point it's just erratic. Players need to be promised a pattern of availability and it needs to be adhered to, for something like this SKIN offering to work.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33044
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Posted - 2015.12.10 03:22:30 -
[83] - Quote
If the Waschi SKINs are among this year's Christmas gifts a week from now, I won't be surprised.
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4816
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Posted - 2015.12.10 03:35:03 -
[84] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote:If the Waschi SKINs are among this year's Christmas gifts a week from now, I won't be surprised. That would **** off a few players...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33044
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Posted - 2015.12.10 04:25:47 -
[85] - Quote
Already happened with the Gnosis, and that's just the example I can recall off the top of my head.
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4816
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Posted - 2015.12.10 04:40:54 -
[86] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote:Already happened with the Gnosis, and that's just the example I can recall off the top of my head. We haven't seen anything like this with SKINs (yet).
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33044
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Posted - 2015.12.10 04:43:20 -
[87] - Quote
My suggestion, Guard, is you need a Vanity Item Product Manager. Someone whose job it is to keep track of when vanity items are offered, and for how long. It also helps to decide how exclusive an item will be, and be forthcoming about it. It's implied the Waschi SKINs are only available if you spend $490.00 USD, but there's no trust in that being the case.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33044
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Posted - 2015.12.10 04:45:02 -
[88] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Rain6637 wrote:Already happened with the Gnosis, and that's just the example I can recall off the top of my head. We haven't seen anything like this with SKINs (yet). We have, actually.
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4816
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Posted - 2015.12.10 04:52:47 -
[89] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote:We have, actually. Oh?
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33045
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Posted - 2015.12.10 05:13:09 -
[90] - Quote
In varying degrees, yes. Random sales of SKINs in packs like the one sale that ran recently, in account management. Might still be up, though I think it was just a black friday deal. To a lesser degree, Quafe SKINs were re-used for EVE Down Under.
Discounted offerings of SKINs in general, I'm going to say hurt the perceived value of all SKINs, ever.
When they're being offered as a bonus for digital goods costing nearly $500.00 USD, I'd say the perceived value is worth protecting. For some perspective, $500.00 USD buys an XBOX One on launch day. For a digital good.
According to market history, several 28-Packs have been purchased already. I think it's safe to say if these types of promotions were more successful, they would support the creation of a new position at CCP such as Vanity Item Product Manager.
I want to end my feedback on a positive note, so in closing I want to say I'm impressed that a digital good with such a high price point is being offered. I would like to see such a thing be wildly successful. I really do love you, CCP. No other game has come close to EVE.
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Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
285
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Posted - 2015.12.10 05:21:21 -
[91] - Quote
Primary This Rifter wrote:What kind of tryhard buys 28 PLEX anyway?
The type who travels in a rookie ship half afk with them?
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Aker Krane
OMEGADYNE LABS Rising Darkness
24
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Posted - 2015.12.10 14:56:01 -
[92] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote:Guard, real talk. I might buy this 28 pack, but I also might not.
I would because the current value of those Waschi SKINs is 9 Billion ISK, give or take.
I wouldn't because even with that much added ISK value to a PLEX pack, there's no guarantee the values of those SKINs will hold or mature. I simply don't trust SKINs to hold their value. Several SKINs are now being offered in discounted packs, randomly, and this makes SKIN investing a bad idea.
There's also nothing cool to use PLEX for. I play on annuals, and one of my characters has a stack of 16 PLEX sitting in Jita, all bought through PLEX sales. By extension, there's nothing cool to spend ISK on.
Some players might point out the value of that stack of PLEX will only mature, but I don't care about that. Whether I have 16 PLEX and a Billion ISK or 2,000 PLEX and 2 Trillion ISK, it doesn't bring any enjoyment to me. A Hel maybe, but someone seems to have a vendetta against anything above frigate and cruiser-class.
I try to have suggestions when I provide feedback, but I just don't know what would make this work. I know you're trying to entice me, and I want to be a good customer. I can honestly say though, if SKIN availability / exclusivity wasn't so erratic in the past, I would already have bought this 28 pack and posted about selling those SKINs for the extra ISK.
This in spades! Myself and a few friends were talking about this the other night. A couple of us would do it too... But you just get burned a few weeks or months later by CCP so I think folks are pretty gunshy about dropping this kind of quan for something that will be worthless in game in a few months. Look at the Rorqual and Mack skins in the pack... really, CCP that's all you can come up with?
This makes me think that your marketing folks think it is OK to perpetrate scams on their paying customers. If your marketing department worked for my company irl, I would fire them. Never, ever bait and switch the paying customer. This is just bad business. Just wow.
You know what word you need to use. Otherwise, good luck with your sale.
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Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1808
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Posted - 2015.12.10 15:34:06 -
[93] - Quote
While I think that the idea of buying 28 plexes is hilarious and find these ship skins terrible I will agree to the above.
CCP needs to learn to be consistent, to be upfront and open in their communication and to stick to their words. If they want to lure in people with those skins (and they obviously do) they will have to unequivocally state that said skins are only to be gotten through high volume plex deals. Would be silly to pin them on a number, next moth the deal could be for 30 plex or perhaps 25, but it would need to be sufficiently high so that their scarcity is retained making their value lasting and warranted.
Then again, CCP's track record in regards to being consistent, upfront, open and sticking to their words isn't all that hot. Perhaps I'm just a negative nancy. |

Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
27037
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Posted - 2015.12.10 15:45:28 -
[94] - Quote
I'm still wondering about the skin prices ingame for the cheap 6 plex pack...
Anyone?
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
10447
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Posted - 2015.12.10 16:51:28 -
[95] - Quote
I see people think about investing long term into vanity items. That is bad thinking. These vanity items are to be consumed or sold now for someone to consume, in longer timespan no one can predict what will CCP do that will influence prices. And when you consume SKIN, you cant sell it. As a collector item, rather priceless in collection considering rarity and later rather poor availability, and not destined to be sold, one should not bother asking for how much it will sold later.
Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
27043
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Posted - 2015.12.10 16:55:17 -
[96] - Quote
I just want to drop it onto the market early.
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1810
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Posted - 2015.12.10 16:55:23 -
[97] - Quote
Bagrat Skalski wrote:I see people think about investing long term into vanity items. That is bad thinking. These vanity items are to be consumed or sold now for someone to consume, in longer timespan no one can predict what will CCP do that will influence prices. And when you consume SKIN, you cant sell it. As a collector item, rather priceless in collection considering rarity and later rather poor availability, and not destined to be sold, one should not bother asking for how much it will sold later.
This is EVE, market speculation happens every day with all the things. Everything you buy or sell is affected by it. |

Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
10447
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Posted - 2015.12.10 17:19:48 -
[98] - Quote
I would like to see them speculate, for example, how much you will pay only for a different color for the only one kind of ship in a game where there is no indication on overwiev that you are "special", and majority of players play zoomed out. I dont say its bad investment, I just say its not a good way to speculate on an item of such vanity and scarcity. PLEX is a lot better.
Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33046
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Posted - 2015.12.10 17:52:56 -
[99] - Quote
Bagrat Skalski wrote:I see people think about investing long term into vanity items. That is bad thinking. These vanity items are to be consumed or sold now for someone to consume, in longer timespan no one can predict what will CCP do that will influence prices. And when you consume SKIN, you cant resell it. As a collector item, rather priceless in collection considering rarity and later rather poor availability, and not destined to be sold, one should not bother asking for how much it will sell later. That's all true and it's related to my point. Those are the reasons why there won't be buyers of these SKINs beyond the first few who just have to own them for reasons. Anyone holding SKINs is going to get burned. Ask me how I know (and any CCPs or GMs curious about my cred, check Reject's assets for a good schadenfreude laugh).
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
27071
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Posted - 2015.12.10 17:56:29 -
[100] - Quote
Hell ... should I buy it or not? :/
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33046
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Posted - 2015.12.10 17:56:43 -
[101] - Quote
Some examples of good moves regarding SKINs:
Never reduce the price of a SKIN, even for a sale. The only direction SKIN prices should go is up. Be forthcoming about the availability of a SKIN, and stick to it. If the Waschi SKINs are a limited promo, say so.
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PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
27071
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Posted - 2015.12.10 17:59:00 -
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Driving me nuts...
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2078
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Posted - 2015.12.10 18:17:23 -
[103] - Quote
its pretty clear with some of the recent changes that it looks like ccp are trying to drive down the cost of in-game plex
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Karash Amerius
Sutoka
218
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Posted - 2015.12.10 18:23:54 -
[104] - Quote
Let's start a kickstarter for it.
Karash Amerius
Operative, Sutoka
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lilol' me
Retribution Holdings Corp Retribution.
56
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Posted - 2015.12.10 18:29:51 -
[105] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear.
lol your too kind lets spend -ú400 to get some skins. Seriously how many normal people do you think will just buy 28 plex. |

Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2078
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Posted - 2015.12.10 18:34:05 -
[106] - Quote
lilol' me wrote:CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. lol your too kind lets spend -ú400 to get some skins. Seriously how many normal people do you think will just buy 28 plex.
people buying characters, people buying supers, people investing in the new citadels, people who sometimes fly around in 25bil isk ravens. basing that ccp said the majority of people who play eve are professionals then ill assume that -ú400 is actually easy enough to spend on a game if they wanted to
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
27076
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Posted - 2015.12.10 18:34:07 -
[107] - Quote
Lan Wang wrote:its pretty clear with some of the recent changes that it looks like ccp are trying to drive down the cost of in-game plex We should totally attempt to counter that by pushing apparel. It worked once, it ... won't work again, because the times are completely different.
pfffff.
Now I'm in Jita, still not knowing if I should buy the sixpack. -.-
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33046
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Posted - 2015.12.10 18:44:36 -
[108] - Quote
Karash Amerius wrote:Let's start a kickstarter for it. Nah that won't work.
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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lilol' me
Retribution Holdings Corp Retribution.
56
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Posted - 2015.12.10 18:48:17 -
[109] - Quote
Lan Wang wrote:lilol' me wrote:CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. lol your too kind lets spend -ú400 to get some skins. Seriously how many normal people do you think will just buy 28 plex. people buying characters, people buying supers, people investing in the new citadels, people who sometimes fly around in 25bil isk ravens. basing that ccp said the majority of people who play eve are professionals then ill assume that -ú400 is actually easy enough to spend on a game if they wanted to
so as i said, how many people is that? |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7217
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Posted - 2015.12.10 19:23:22 -
[110] - Quote
Pro Tip: if you do buy 28 PLEX, be sure not to put them in a Kestrel and undock in Jita.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Alea
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2015.12.11 19:00:40 -
[111] - Quote
I sold all of my skins that was once ships mainly because now only one character can fly that ship (skin) as before most all of mine could fly those ships in the past, for me skins are a wast as only one character can inject then fly that ship (skin) which is well.. sorta derpy.
Too be fair I'm not into what my crap looks like, it just needs to do what it's designed to do, I'm not space poor by any definition but to me spending ISK or RL monies on skins only usable on one character don't make allot of sense to me.
And to be honest, even if one could transfer skins from one character to another I still wouldn't bother as it's not a real ship like some were in the past.. |

Alyssen Thorne
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2015.12.12 05:48:58 -
[112] - Quote
Eve store is gone. That's too bad because you could get real products for money. It surely wasn't profitable enough for them ... Now, for a huge load of cash you get useless dematerialized stuff ... just ones and zeros. Why ? Because it's easy, it's effortless, it's lucrative.
I hope no one will buy this crap. |

Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
27374
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Posted - 2015.12.12 07:49:51 -
[113] - Quote
Alyssen Thorne wrote:Eve store is gone. That's too bad because you could get real products for money. It surely wasn't profitable enough for them ... Now, for a huge load of cash you get useless dematerialized stuff ... just ones and zeros. Why ? Because it's easy, it's effortless, it's lucrative.
I hope no one will buy this crap. So they just press a button and these things come into virtual existence?
No one has to create the textures, the models, has to apply the textures, iron out eventually overseen holes, has to put them up in the shop and whatever I missed ?
Congratulations, you blew the open ended scale of ... hey I can't write that, it'll get me a warning ...
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
213
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Posted - 2015.12.12 14:38:46 -
[114] - Quote
lilol' me wrote:CCP Guard wrote:The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. lol your too kind lets spend -ú400 to get some skins. Seriously how many normal people do you think will just buy 28 plex.
#nopoorspls
Just Add Water
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Lathael
Inner Ring Conglomerate
9
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Posted - 2015.12.12 15:22:21 -
[115] - Quote
If so many people buy the plexes for the little toy, maybe the plex price will drop.
SCARY!! ;) |

Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33080
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Posted - 2015.12.12 16:16:30 -
[116] - Quote
Lathael wrote:If so many people buy the plexes for the little toy, maybe the plex price will drop.
SCARY!! ;) Agreed, but only if players are enticed on a wider scale. If CCP is more consistent with their treatment of SKINs and SKIN exclusivity, yes it will work as an incentive for PLEX packs and the price of PLEX will drop, CCP will have more revenue, and SKINs will receive more interest as investment items.
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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Alyssen Thorne
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2015.12.12 19:13:41 -
[117] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Alyssen Thorne wrote:Eve store is gone. That's too bad because you could get real products for money. It surely wasn't profitable enough for them ... Now, for a huge load of cash you get useless dematerialized stuff ... just ones and zeros. Why ? Because it's easy, it's effortless, it's lucrative.
I hope no one will buy this crap. So they just press a button and these things come into virtual existence? Don't be ridiculous, you know damn right what i meant.
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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
76
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Posted - 2015.12.12 19:33:37 -
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Quote: 2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
I have removed a post for the above reason. Please keep it civil.
ISD Max Trix
Ensign
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Legion Masser
Rage-Machine
45
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Posted - 2015.12.13 01:48:30 -
[119] - Quote
Who would spend lotsa real life scratch in order to get Unique looking things ? WHO I SAY??? And.....................Purchased
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Kaely Tanniss
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
532
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Posted - 2015.12.13 04:37:08 -
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Neuntausend wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Hey so since this is a PLEX sale thread I'm just going to point out that CCP's current sales pitch is "Buy PLEX so you can afford faction mods". **** move CCP, **** move. People are always yelling about how the PLEX price is too high, and that CCP should fix it. Surely an influx of PLEX can't hurt in that reagard.
In a real market yes..in a game market..no. Why would people lower the price of plex when they know others will pay it anyways. Once it reaches a point..it rarely, if at all, ever goes back. It's not really a matter of supply and demand in this case..rather a matter of "what are people willing to pay". After all, if it costs too much to play for free..people will have to pay (CCP logic here)..right? What gets me are the ones who won't pay for a sub, but will buy plex with rl $...a sub is cheaper for pete's sake. Besides, the sub fee to play this game is chump change. Why spend half the month or more playing just to buy plex to play for free for another month of plex grinding? 
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33216
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Posted - 2016.01.05 09:41:56 -
[121] - Quote
the 28 pack is $418 USD now. I forget, was it $550 before?
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
30260
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Posted - 2016.01.05 09:50:15 -
[122] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote:the 28 pack is $418 USD now. I forget, was it $550 before? Was 420ish.
RoAnnon wrote:
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
I just scanned for sites and I found a C3
The fleet is now forming, FC wants T3s
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33216
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Posted - 2016.01.05 09:53:46 -
[123] - Quote
I'm looking around and the sale prices seem to be healthy, which I'm guessing means one person has them all?
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33216
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Posted - 2016.01.05 09:58:30 -
[124] - Quote
The Waschi SKINs, I mean.
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
30260
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Posted - 2016.01.05 10:57:22 -
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I considered buying the sixplexpack, but after checking the prices for the skins I deemed it unworthy.
You know what would boost sales? And I kid you not and actually like to know your honest opinion...
MiniSkirts. Strapless bras. Stockings (not tights)
My argument: Sex sells, no?
RoAnnon wrote:
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
I just scanned for sites and I found a C3
The fleet is now forming, FC wants T3s
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
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Leila Meurtrier
Why Am I Not Surprised
69
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Posted - 2016.01.05 12:25:53 -
[126] - Quote
While I can't really say much about how much money you got, I can say that limited availability is good. What's the point of cool things if everyone got it? Guess why some people prefer absurdly expensive big trucks that can't fit regular road as a goddamned camper? Because screw you, that's why.
As for paying for vanity, how you feel about buying "golden" mechs that behaves the same as usual ones? For $500 each? I got two. And I bought them before I had real job, extensively offering drafting services for other students. |

Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
340
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Posted - 2016.01.05 13:39:22 -
[127] - Quote
My CEO bought the 28 plex bundle, and I was considering it.
Poors, please leave. |

Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
30346
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Posted - 2016.01.05 13:43:31 -
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Jennifer Maxwell wrote:My CEO bought the 28 plex bundle, and I was considering it.
Poors, please leave. You prove the point I make about people buying stuff like that. :)
RoAnnon wrote:
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
I just scanned for sites and I found a C3
The fleet is now forming, FC wants T3s
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
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