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Aralieus Shadowbane Syndicate 285	Posted - 2015.12.10 05:21:21 - [91] - Quote Primary This Rifter wrote: What kind of tryhard buys 28 PLEX anyway? The type who travels in a rookie ship half afk with them? Oderint Dum Metuant
Aker Krane OMEGADYNE LABS Rising Darkness 24	Posted - 2015.12.10 14:56:01 - [92] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Guard, real talk. I might buy this 28 pack, but I also might not. I would because the current value of those Waschi SKINs is 9 Billion ISK, give or take. I wouldn't because even with that much added ISK value to a PLEX pack, there's no guarantee the values of those SKINs will hold or mature. I simply don't trust SKINs to hold their value. Several SKINs are now being offered in discounted packs, randomly, and this makes SKIN investing a bad idea. There's also nothing cool to use PLEX for. I play on annuals, and one of my characters has a stack of 16 PLEX sitting in Jita, all bought through PLEX sales. By extension, there's nothing cool to spend ISK on. Some players might point out the value of that stack of PLEX will only mature, but I don't care about that. Whether I have 16 PLEX and a Billion ISK or 2,000 PLEX and 2 Trillion ISK, it doesn't bring any enjoyment to me. A Hel maybe, but someone seems to have a vendetta against anything above frigate and cruiser-class. I try to have suggestions when I provide feedback, but I just don't know what would make this work. I know you're trying to entice me, and I want to be a good customer. I can honestly say though, if SKIN availability / exclusivity wasn't so erratic in the past, I would already have bought this 28 pack and posted about selling those SKINs for the extra ISK. This in spades! Myself and a few friends were talking about this the other night. A couple of us would do it too... But you just get burned a few weeks or months later by CCP so I think folks are pretty gunshy about dropping this kind of quan for something that will be worthless in game in a few months. Look at the Rorqual and Mack skins in the pack... really, CCP that's all you can come up with? This makes me think that your marketing folks think it is OK to perpetrate scams on their paying customers. If your marketing department worked for my company irl, I would fire them. Never, ever bait and switch the paying customer. This is just bad business. Just wow. You know what word you need to use. Otherwise, good luck with your sale.
Gregor Parud Ordo Ardish 1808	Posted - 2015.12.10 15:34:06 - [93] - Quote While I think that the idea of buying 28 plexes is hilarious and find these ship skins terrible I will agree to the above. CCP needs to learn to be consistent, to be upfront and open in their communication and to stick to their words. If they want to lure in people with those skins (and they obviously do) they will have to unequivocally state that said skins are only to be gotten through high volume plex deals. Would be silly to pin them on a number, next moth the deal could be for 30 plex or perhaps 25, but it would need to be sufficiently high so that their scarcity is retained making their value lasting and warranted. Then again, CCP's track record in regards to being consistent, upfront, open and sticking to their words isn't all that hot. Perhaps I'm just a negative nancy.
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 27037	Posted - 2015.12.10 15:45:28 - [94] - Quote I'm still wondering about the skin prices ingame for the cheap 6 plex pack... Anyone? I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Bagrat Skalski Koinuun Kotei 10447	Posted - 2015.12.10 16:51:28 - [95] - Quote I see people think about investing long term into vanity items. That is bad thinking. These vanity items are to be consumed or sold now for someone to consume, in longer timespan no one can predict what will CCP do that will influence prices. And when you consume SKIN, you cant sell it. As a collector item, rather priceless in collection considering rarity and later rather poor availability, and not destined to be sold, one should not bother asking for how much it will sold later. Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 27043	Posted - 2015.12.10 16:55:17 - [96] - Quote I just want to drop it onto the market early. I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Gregor Parud Ordo Ardish 1810	Posted - 2015.12.10 16:55:23 - [97] - Quote Bagrat Skalski wrote: I see people think about investing long term into vanity items. That is bad thinking. These vanity items are to be consumed or sold now for someone to consume, in longer timespan no one can predict what will CCP do that will influence prices. And when you consume SKIN, you cant sell it. As a collector item, rather priceless in collection considering rarity and later rather poor availability, and not destined to be sold, one should not bother asking for how much it will sold later. This is EVE, market speculation happens every day with all the things. Everything you buy or sell is affected by it.
Bagrat Skalski Koinuun Kotei 10447	Posted - 2015.12.10 17:19:48 - [98] - Quote I would like to see them speculate, for example, how much you will pay only for a different color for the only one kind of ship in a game where there is no indication on overwiev that you are "special", and majority of players play zoomed out. I dont say its bad investment, I just say its not a good way to speculate on an item of such vanity and scarcity. PLEX is a lot better. Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33046	Posted - 2015.12.10 17:52:56 - [99] - Quote Bagrat Skalski wrote: I see people think about investing long term into vanity items. That is bad thinking. These vanity items are to be consumed or sold now for someone to consume, in longer timespan no one can predict what will CCP do that will influence prices. And when you consume SKIN, you cant resell it. As a collector item, rather priceless in collection considering rarity and later rather poor availability, and not destined to be sold, one should not bother asking for how much it will sell later. That's all true and it's related to my point. Those are the reasons why there won't be buyers of these SKINs beyond the first few who just have to own them for reasons. Anyone holding SKINs is going to get burned. Ask me how I know (and any CCPs or GMs curious about my cred, check Reject's assets for a good schadenfreude laugh). Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 27071	Posted - 2015.12.10 17:56:29 - [100] - Quote Hell ... should I buy it or not? :/ I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)

Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33046	Posted - 2015.12.10 17:56:43 - [101] - Quote Some examples of good moves regarding SKINs: Never reduce the price of a SKIN, even for a sale. The only direction SKIN prices should go is up. Be forthcoming about the availability of a SKIN, and stick to it. If the Waschi SKINs are a limited promo, say so. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 27071	Posted - 2015.12.10 17:59:00 - [102] - Quote Driving me nuts... I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat FETID 2078	Posted - 2015.12.10 18:17:23 - [103] - Quote its pretty clear with some of the recent changes that it looks like ccp are trying to drive down the cost of in-game plex Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic \| Angel Cartel \| Serpentis \|
Karash Amerius Sutoka 218	Posted - 2015.12.10 18:23:54 - [104] - Quote Let's start a kickstarter for it. Karash Amerius Operative, Sutoka
lilol' me Retribution Holdings Corp Retribution. 56	Posted - 2015.12.10 18:29:51 - [105] - Quote CCP Guard wrote: The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. lol your too kind lets spend -ú400 to get some skins. Seriously how many normal people do you think will just buy 28 plex.
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat FETID 2078	Posted - 2015.12.10 18:34:05 - [106] - Quote lilol' me wrote: CCP Guard wrote: The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. lol your too kind lets spend -ú400 to get some skins. Seriously how many normal people do you think will just buy 28 plex. people buying characters, people buying supers, people investing in the new citadels, people who sometimes fly around in 25bil isk ravens. basing that ccp said the majority of people who play eve are professionals then ill assume that -ú400 is actually easy enough to spend on a game if they wanted to Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic \| Angel Cartel \| Serpentis \|
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 27076	Posted - 2015.12.10 18:34:07 - [107] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: its pretty clear with some of the recent changes that it looks like ccp are trying to drive down the cost of in-game plex We should totally attempt to counter that by pushing apparel. It worked once, it ... won't work again, because the times are completely different. pfffff. Now I'm in Jita, still not knowing if I should buy the sixpack. -.- I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33046	Posted - 2015.12.10 18:44:36 - [108] - Quote Karash Amerius wrote: Let's start a kickstarter for it. Nah that won't work. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
lilol' me Retribution Holdings Corp Retribution. 56	Posted - 2015.12.10 18:48:17 - [109] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: lilol' me wrote: CCP Guard wrote: The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. lol your too kind lets spend -ú400 to get some skins. Seriously how many normal people do you think will just buy 28 plex. people buying characters, people buying supers, people investing in the new citadels, people who sometimes fly around in 25bil isk ravens. basing that ccp said the majority of people who play eve are professionals then ill assume that -ú400 is actually easy enough to spend on a game if they wanted to so as i said, how many people is that?
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 7217	Posted - 2015.12.10 19:23:22 - [110] - Quote Pro Tip: if you do buy 28 PLEX, be sure not to put them in a Kestrel and undock in Jita. Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Alea Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 135	Posted - 2015.12.11 19:00:40 - [111] - Quote I sold all of my skins that was once ships mainly because now only one character can fly that ship (skin) as before most all of mine could fly those ships in the past, for me skins are a wast as only one character can inject then fly that ship (skin) which is well.. sorta derpy. Too be fair I'm not into what my crap looks like, it just needs to do what it's designed to do, I'm not space poor by any definition but to me spending ISK or RL monies on skins only usable on one character don't make allot of sense to me. And to be honest, even if one could transfer skins from one character to another I still wouldn't bother as it's not a real ship like some were in the past..
Alyssen Thorne State War Academy Caldari State 7	Posted - 2015.12.12 05:48:58 - [112] - Quote Eve store is gone. That's too bad because you could get real products for money. It surely wasn't profitable enough for them ... Now, for a huge load of cash you get useless dematerialized stuff ... just ones and zeros. Why ? Because it's easy, it's effortless, it's lucrative. I hope no one will buy this crap.
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 27374	Posted - 2015.12.12 07:49:51 - [113] - Quote Alyssen Thorne wrote: Eve store is gone. That's too bad because you could get real products for money. It surely wasn't profitable enough for them ... Now, for a huge load of cash you get useless dematerialized stuff ... just ones and zeros. Why ? Because it's easy, it's effortless, it's lucrative. I hope no one will buy this crap. So they just press a button and these things come into virtual existence? No one has to create the textures, the models, has to apply the textures, iron out eventually overseen holes, has to put them up in the shop and whatever I missed ? Congratulations, you blew the open ended scale of ... hey I can't write that, it'll get me a warning ... I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Nat Silverguard Aideron Robotics 213	Posted - 2015.12.12 14:38:46 - [114] - Quote lilol' me wrote: CCP Guard wrote: The skins are a reward if you buy a 28 PLEX package. We're not selling skins for 28 PLEX just to be clear. lol your too kind lets spend -ú400 to get some skins. Seriously how many normal people do you think will just buy 28 plex. #nopoorspls Just Add Water
Lathael Inner Ring Conglomerate 9	Posted - 2015.12.12 15:22:21 - [115] - Quote If so many people buy the plexes for the little toy, maybe the plex price will drop. SCARY!! ;)
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33080	Posted - 2015.12.12 16:16:30 - [116] - Quote Lathael wrote: If so many people buy the plexes for the little toy, maybe the plex price will drop. SCARY!! ;) Agreed, but only if players are enticed on a wider scale. If CCP is more consistent with their treatment of SKINs and SKIN exclusivity, yes it will work as an incentive for PLEX packs and the price of PLEX will drop, CCP will have more revenue, and SKINs will receive more interest as investment items. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Alyssen Thorne State War Academy Caldari State 7	Posted - 2015.12.12 19:13:41 - [117] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: Alyssen Thorne wrote: Eve store is gone. That's too bad because you could get real products for money. It surely wasn't profitable enough for them ... Now, for a huge load of cash you get useless dematerialized stuff ... just ones and zeros. Why ? Because it's easy, it's effortless, it's lucrative. I hope no one will buy this crap. So they just press a button and these things come into virtual existence? Don't be ridiculous, you know damn right what i meant.
ISD Max Trix ISD Community Communications Liaisons 76	Posted - 2015.12.12 19:33:37 - [118] - Quote Quote: 2. Be respectful toward others at all times. The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others. I have removed a post for the above reason. Please keep it civil. ISD Max Trix Ensign Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Legion Masser Rage-Machine 45	Posted - 2015.12.13 01:48:30 - [119] - Quote Who would spend lotsa real life scratch in order to get Unique looking things ? WHO I SAY??? And.....................Purchased GÿóGÿóGÿóGÿóGÿóGÿóGÿó- Your Anger is a Gift -GÿóGÿóGÿóGÿóGÿóGÿóGÿó Do you even Titan? GÿóGÿóGÿó Potato GÿóGÿóGÿóLemonGÿóGÿóGÿó
Kaely Tanniss EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 532	Posted - 2015.12.13 04:37:08 - [120] - Quote Neuntausend wrote: Mallak Azaria wrote: Hey so since this is a PLEX sale thread I'm just going to point out that CCP's current sales pitch is "Buy PLEX so you can afford faction mods". ** move CCP, ** move. People are always yelling about how the PLEX price is too high, and that CCP should fix it. Surely an influx of PLEX can't hurt in that reagard. In a real market yes..in a game market..no. Why would people lower the price of plex when they know others will pay it anyways. Once it reaches a point..it rarely, if at all, ever goes back. It's not really a matter of supply and demand in this case..rather a matter of "what are people willing to pay". After all, if it costs too much to play for free..people will have to pay (CCP logic here)..right? What gets me are the ones who won't pay for a sub, but will buy plex with rl $...a sub is cheaper for pete's sake. Besides, the sub fee to play this game is chump change. Why spend half the month or more playing just to buy plex to play for free for another month of plex grinding? If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..



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