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Setana Manoro
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.01.17 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: Setana Manoro on 17/01/2007 23:07:57
If you are in a MWD Harbinger, then you have a shot at killing him, this way. First load up on T1 range crystals so you don't lose tracking, align to a warpable object and get to full speed. Activate MWD, when he is behind you're ship or close to getting there. This way you turn his orbit into an eclipse as he needs to catch up with you. When he is kitting and transversal is at it's lowest you have a small chance to hit him badly, and that is when you need to fire. Bringing along Warriors II for extra damage at that same moment is not a bad ideea.
Basically you force him to react rapidly to the situation and get out of optimal or die. MWD-ing means he has the sig of a cruiser so Warriors should have no problem hitting him too untill he gets out of they're optimal.
I've tried this today on SISI with a Zealot - no drone bay unfortunately, and in 3-4 salvo's the crow was in 80% structure. The Zealot had the advantage of a low mass and good acceleration so it got to 1+ km/s faster then a Harbinger would ever get, but you do have the drone bay on the Harbinger.
Unfortunately if the Crow actually has fitted a Tracking Disruptor, then it sucks because you're pulse's will be much less efficient, even with Radio M.
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Mr Peanut
Crimson Star Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.17 23:22:00 -
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I don't think that there is a way to do this in a harbinger without making you useless at whatever you were trying to do when you got jumped. Fortunately, the Crow can't kill a harbinger either. Just call in a corp-mate when he starts harassing you.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
The Keep
THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.01.18 00:35:00 -
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don't know about a harbringer, but cormorant with 7 125mm's with antimatter, 2 tech II tracking comps, sensor booster ( to have a chance at the pod), a kinetic hardener, and a Mag stab II will ruin just about any intercepters day. you won't get a lot of kills, due to lack of web/scram, but you will royally **** of a lot of crow pilots.
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Zana Kito
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Posted - 2007.01.18 11:39:00 -
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How do drone nav links affect warrior II?
The typical frigate, with a mass of 1,000,000Kg uses 1 Mega Newton mwds. It's a match.
The nav links only adds 25N thrust to the MWD of drones. Warrior 2 are 4000Kg, 25N is too small to really change anything given how physics work.
Anyway Warrior 2 with Drone Nav V gets a base speed of 6300m/s.
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari
Ore Mongers
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.18 11:56:00 -
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You don't swat flies with a M1A2 Abrams.
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Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2007.01.18 12:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Deathbarrage
crows on mwd are easily popped...
The other day i was in 0.0 in a hurricane with 425mm II's and barrage. A crow was orbitting me @ about 18km with a gist mwd fitted (found out later in the lootcan ^^) and i just turned on my guns and he popped...
Are you saying you hit a crow orbitting at 18km going like 10 km/s with a medium turret which has an optimal+falloff of like 13.5 km if even? I doubt anyone is going to believe that.
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Thor Ba'aleron
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Posted - 2007.01.18 12:12:00 -
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Harpy
4x150mm Railgun II (Spike)
1x Prototype Cloak
2x F-90 Sensor Booster
1x Optical Tracking Computer
1x Passive Targeting Array
1x Gyrostabilizer II
1x F-aQ Phase Code Tracking Subroutines
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Static Ga'lraith
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.18 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Thor Ba'aleron
Harpy
4x150mm Railgun II (Spike)
1x Prototype Cloak
2x F-90 Sensor Booster
1x Optical Tracking Computer
1x Passive Targeting Array
1x Gyrostabilizer II
1x F-aQ Phase Code Tracking Subroutines
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Larshus Magrus
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.18 14:35:00 -
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This might sound silly but... Assault launcher Caracals (assuming really good missile skills) eat interceptors. Key here is good skills. By the time they realize they are in trouble they can't get out in time. (usually) Sometimes a inty pilot will approach a caracal in a spiral gageing damage... if thats the case you can't kill him he'll just bugger off.
5X assaults
web, scramb, extenders
bcu's
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.18 14:46:00 -
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My Taranis doesn't seem to have a problem with most of them. Even if they don't die they seem to get scared and run off when I actually start hitting them from 16k.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.01.18 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Setana Manoro on 18/01/2007 15:03:24
Edited by: Setana Manoro on 18/01/2007 15:01:27
First of all he may have a top speed of X km/s but that doesn't mean that it is also his orbit velocity as that is significantly smaller, 2nd of all, MWD makes him look like the breed of a cruiser with a battlecruiser sig-wise while having the capacity of absorbing damage of a wet paper towel and 3rd of all, drones intercept when you tell them to attack and if you are MWD-ing to screw up his orbit, and he is MWD-ing to get back into orbit you have a small window of opportunity where he has a huge sig and small transversal and he's not at top speed, most likely even Medium T2 drones will score a perfect hit the first time.
Not all of EVE is F1-F8 you know, and who knows ... it might work; surely it is better for this when you don't have a specialized ship to take down him. I mean you are not going to ask him nicely to wait for you to get you're anti-interceptor ship, now will you ?
Won't even mention that a single Crow with a crappy damage output that engages a BC or above for me it means that a big gang is coming right around the corner to pop me, what does it mean to you ?
PS: Yes you do swat flies with a M1A2 Abrahms, you just need to get the fly on some honey on some hard concrete and you have a shot at it ... :)
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2007.01.18 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Setana Manoro
Won't even mention that a single Crow with a crappy damage output that engages a BC or above for me it means that a big gang is coming right around the corner to pop me, what does it mean to you ?
Believe me that occurred to me. Kept waiting for the rest of the gank squad to swoop in but it never happened.
I figure he either was hoping I had an idiot setup (happens) or was waiting for his mates but for whatever reason they couldn't make it or just wanted to have a bit of fun before going home or he was an idiot thinking he could drop a BC solo. No clue myself but no way he was getting through my tank on his own.
My guess is he was just having fun or his mates got sidetracked on their way to get me. I suppose he could have held me indefinitely but then I had some mates on the way too.
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John McDuff
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.18 17:28:00 -
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Does one not swat flies with a flyswatter? or a flycatcher in this case? (not that i have any experience with those)
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
The Keep
THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.01.18 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: John McDuff
Does one not swat flies with a flyswatter? or a flycatcher in this case? (not that i have any experience with those)
In my opinion, missles just don't have the dps to take down a crow before they can disengage, and it takes a lot of money to make a flycatcher fast enough to catch a crow.
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QueenOfSpades
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Posted - 2007.01.19 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: Humpalot
I figure he either was hoping I had an idiot setup (happens) or was waiting for his mates but for whatever reason they couldn't make it or just wanted to have a bit of fun before going home or he was an idiot thinking he could drop a BC solo. No clue myself but no way he was getting through my tank on his own.
My guess is he was just having fun or his mates got sidetracked on their way to get me. I suppose he could have held me indefinitely but then I had some mates on the way too.
I had a crow-experience that i won't be remembering with a smile on my face. I was flying my eos when two crows jumped on me (to make it more embarrassing i was actually at that point hoping they would). I didn't have previous experience fighting against crows solo... several other type of inties had gone pop in couple of secs when encountered before.
Needless to say none of my friends were online. Whoooo... pass they go, my webber didn't have a chance. Light drones didn't catch them, heavies didn't hit, MWDin didn't help... They couldn't even get my shields down for the first 15mins or so. No reinforcements. Just two crows and a thorax sitting at 200kms. Reasoning didn't change their minds... i was badly late from an appointment in RL. They kept my eos scrambled at least 30mins, it was totally boring and in I had to go. The only option would have been paying 100mils for ransom. I don't pay ransoms... So decided to log off. Should have self destructed but didn't think that then.
Good bye eos, and all not so inexpensive fitting. Wasn't nice.
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