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Saredan
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.01.07 02:32:04 -
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hello , i was roaming around and i see one night a complete system was LOCKED by these gankers named CODE . the problem is that they don't get enought penalties doing that compared to the amount of money peoples lost when piloting a freighter and the amount of money CODE and other corp gain doing this .
the second problem is : kill rights the kill rights are by far too expensive , we need to be able to punish them for cheap
some peoples begin the game and get ganked by these kind of corporations .
1 : they have no money and want to play the game an progress . 2 : some peoples feel miserable because of this situation and are not willing to stay enough in the game because of that . 3 : by making a better environnement , i'm sure more beginners will stay .
please CCP :
steps to make :
1 : lower the kill rights cost or make it no cost (or make a cost cap ) 2 : make a system looking if a high sec system is constantly under pirat attack (of the same persons) and make that CONCORD roam in large fleets in all the system after let say 30 min of repetive attack of same pirat persons in high sec . 3 :(optionnal) (don't know if possible) limit the number of client possible running from the same IP adress this can prevent a high sec system lock
it is unacceptable that a SINGLE person can lock out a system with 12 accounts . we are 30000 players live and we got annoyed by 1 man with 12 accounts .
gank will still exist , but in a limited way than it is actually .
thanks . viewing my feedback . regards . |
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
117
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Posted - 2016.01.07 03:13:05 -
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You gonna cry because somebody blew up your little shippy whippy? |
Amarrchecko
Hedion University Amarr Empire
80
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Posted - 2016.01.07 05:00:05 -
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Saredan wrote:it is unacceptable that a SINGLE person can lock out a system with 12 accounts . we are 30000 players live and we got annoyed by 1 man with 12 accounts .
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
2540
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Posted - 2016.01.07 05:44:50 -
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You realise kill right price is set by the ganked right? Go whine at the greedy people who set it ;-)
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2662
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Posted - 2016.01.07 05:49:12 -
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If ever I can manage to simultaneously annoy 30000 players I will consider myself to have won EVE. More accounts is the path to this? Is it possible using only one or two?
Counterpoint to OP: Perhaps using scouts, either alts or I dunno... friends, would mitigate losses far more efficiently than badgering CCP for changes to the playstyle of others. You know the hot spots, obviously, so why not take some precautions when passing through or near them? From the sounds of it you got smurfed right in the smurfhole. Working as intended.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3918
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Posted - 2016.01.07 06:10:31 -
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News at 11: NPC corp alt whines about ganking, demands more severe penalties on other players for legitimate gameplay. |
Sasha Cohenberg
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling CODE.
29
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Posted - 2016.01.07 06:36:20 -
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you may think it is cheap to gank because of the difference incost between destroyers and freighters, but let me remind you the overhead cost of one plex per month per account to keep those gankers going. |
Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2016.01.07 07:09:38 -
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Kill rights seem to work OK but you don't need them for gankers who fly at - 10 so free to shoot, the only thing with this you do need to shoot them to make it work
Make a combat alt and play the game, it's fun, you sometimes get a bit of a bounty payment, I even get paid from the odd ship I save as a thxs, |
Jason Kusion
The Conference Elite CODE.
1
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Posted - 2016.01.07 07:40:16 -
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Dear Saredan
I would first like to thank you for acknowledging my solo efforts to eliminate the autopiloting menace. Indeed, it is quite unfair that someone like me can operate 12 accounts while most struggle to operate a single account; However, I'm sure an equally skilled player would be able to evade me with minimal effort. Perhaps you should try getting on my level.
I am pleased to inform you that killrights are not necessary to intervene with our operations. CODE. alliance and our affiliates are almost exclusively -10 security status and all pilots of New Eden are welcome to engage us as they please. Even you are allowed to come blow us up without ever needing to pay for a killright.
I hope you find this information helpful. I look forward to seeing you soon in the tradelanes!
GÖÑJason KusionGÖÑ |
Sonne7
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2016.01.07 07:52:26 -
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Jason Kusion wrote:Dear Saredan
I would first like to thank you for acknowledging my solo efforts to eliminate the autopiloting menace. Indeed, it is quite unfair that someone like me can operate 12 accounts while most struggle to operate a single account; However, I'm sure an equally skilled player would be able to evade me with minimal effort. Perhaps you should try getting on my level.
I am pleased to inform you that killrights are not necessary to intervene with our operations. CODE. alliance and our affiliates are almost exclusively -10 security status and all pilots of New Eden are welcome to engage us as they please. Even you are allowed to come blow us up without ever needing to pay for a killright.
I hope you find this information helpful. I look forward to seeing you soon in the tradelanes!
GÖÑJason KusionGÖÑ
Just an alt nothing to see here move along please |
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
3619
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Posted - 2016.01.07 07:52:54 -
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OP, please learn to play Eve. Oh, and post on your main or GTFO, too.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
CODE. forum - everyone's welcome (no shiptoasters)
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holdmybeer
The Conference Elite CODE.
16
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Posted - 2016.01.07 08:04:29 -
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Join the anti-gankers so you can finally stop CODE. for good |
Saeger1737
Bite the pillow The Pursuit of Happiness
1263
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Posted - 2016.01.07 08:19:43 -
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Just join a corp.... Eventually someone will just kill you legitimatly to watch you b*tch about that. |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
636
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Posted - 2016.01.07 08:31:44 -
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Saredan wrote: the problem is that they don't get enought penalties doing that compared to the amount of money peoples lost when piloting a freighter and the amount of money CODE and other corp gain doing this . (...) some peoples begin the game and get ganked by these kind of corporations .
1 : they have no money and want to play the game an progress . 2 : some peoples feel miserable because of this situation and are not willing to stay enough in the game because of that . 3 : by making a better environnement , i'm sure more beginners will stay .
Where do all those newbies with enough ISK to buy a freighter come from? And if they can afford a 1 billion isk ship, I'm sure they can afford the 10 mill ISK permit for safe passage.
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
2069
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Posted - 2016.01.07 10:15:54 -
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Making this post on an alt because you (or your corpmate) lost an Orca in Uedama (Jan 4, 10:54) destroys any credibility your "feedback" has. You lost a round in this PvP game, that is all. Your time would be better spent learning how to prevent such losses in the future rather than begging the game developer (in the wrong forum I might add) to change the game in your favour.
Let me start: stop flying your Orca AFK. Fit it with a MWD to get a 10 second warp, or escort it with a webbing support ship. Also, scout ahead, and if pirates are operating in a system, go around or wait until later if you cannot provide proper protection for your industrial ships. Highsec is not safe. You are not entitled to free passage though any system any time you desire.
Better yet, take the suggestions offered above in this thread and fight back against the gankers. They are criminals and free for you to shoot. You know, actually play the game? |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
30670
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Posted - 2016.01.07 10:29:41 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:If ever I can manage to simultaneously annoy 30000 players I will consider myself to have won EVE. More accounts is the path to this? Is it possible using only one or two?
Challenge .........
....... accepted!
MUAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
RoAnnon wrote:
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
I just scanned for sites and I found a C3
The fleet is now forming, FC wants T3s
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10067
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Posted - 2016.01.07 11:53:26 -
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Droidster wrote:You gonna cry because somebody blew up your little shippy whippy?
NPC posting alt has all his feathers puffed up, adorable!
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1588
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Posted - 2016.01.07 13:08:15 -
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAwait he's serious.
*blinks*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA......
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
119
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Posted - 2016.01.07 14:02:44 -
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Jason Kusion wrote:Dear Saredan
I would first like to thank you for acknowledging my solo efforts to eliminate the autopiloting menace. Indeed, it is quite unfair that someone like me can operate 12 accounts while most struggle to operate a single account; However, I'm sure an equally skilled player would be able to evade me with minimal effort. Perhaps you should try getting on my level.
I am pleased to inform you that killrights are not necessary to intervene with our operations. CODE. alliance and our affiliates are almost exclusively -10 security status and all pilots of New Eden are welcome to engage us as they please. Even you are allowed to come blow us up without ever needing to pay for a killright.
I hope you find this information helpful. I look forward to seeing you soon in the tradelanes!
GÖÑJason KusionGÖÑ
Ironically this guy and his 12 clones blew me up too last night (and destroyed my implants, I guess out of spite). Its like Jake Kusion, Justin Kusion, Joel Kusion, Jeremiah Kusion, etc, etc. More -10 tards than in one of those incestuous families in West Virginia.
I was trying to figure out the math of this. He only got about 300 million in stuff off me, because most of the good stuff got destroyed, but I noticed from his killboard he has destroyed some 8 billion ISK freighters, not even sure how he collects those, another account with a freighter? So, let's say he averages 500 million per gank, then he only needs to gank about 30 high value ships per month to fund his 12-15 accounts, which is 1 per night, and checking the killboard again we see he is killing like 20 ships on some nights, so it looks pretty profitable.
I think he must have yet another account which does nothing but make Thrashers. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2670
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Posted - 2016.01.07 14:04:02 -
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At work the other night...
"If you're gonna cry about it, at least lean over the bucket when doing so. My goal tonight is to gather at least enough to brew myself a pot of very salty coffee"
Perhaps EVE has contaminated RL a bit too much for me.... granted, being that I have to deal with morons 99% of the time, it's quite possible that EVE has not had ENOUGH of an impact on RL to grant me the serenity I require in order to not go home and drink heavily after each shift.
Either way, OP needs to nut up and adapt or go somewhere else. His choice.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2671
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Posted - 2016.01.07 14:17:03 -
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Droidster wrote:Jason Kusion wrote:Dear Saredan
I would first like to thank you for acknowledging my solo efforts to eliminate the autopiloting menace. Indeed, it is quite unfair that someone like me can operate 12 accounts while most struggle to operate a single account; However, I'm sure an equally skilled player would be able to evade me with minimal effort. Perhaps you should try getting on my level.
I am pleased to inform you that killrights are not necessary to intervene with our operations. CODE. alliance and our affiliates are almost exclusively -10 security status and all pilots of New Eden are welcome to engage us as they please. Even you are allowed to come blow us up without ever needing to pay for a killright.
I hope you find this information helpful. I look forward to seeing you soon in the tradelanes!
GÖÑJason KusionGÖÑ Ironically this guy and his 12 clones blew me up too last night (and destroyed my implants, I guess out of spite). Its like Jake Kusion, Justin Kusion, Joel Kusion, Jeremiah Kusion, etc, etc. More -10 tards than in one of those incestuous families in West Virginia. I was trying to figure out the math of this. He only got about 300 million in stuff off me, because most of the good stuff got destroyed, but I noticed from his killboard he has destroyed some 8 billion ISK freighters, not even sure how he collects those, another account with a freighter? So, let's say he averages 500 million per gank, then he only needs to gank about 30 high value ships per month to fund his 12-15 accounts, which is 1 per night, and checking the killboard again we see he is killing like 20 ships on some nights, so it looks pretty profitable. I think he must have yet another account which does nothing but make Thrashers. I'm guessing that there's a 'neutral' hauler involved to scavenge the chunky bits left over. There are others who make the Thrashers, I'm sure. Even the implant destruction has an impact on the economy, as it drives up the demand for them. Cycle of life, yo. I'd have all sorts of rad insights on this crap if only I knew anyone who sold weed anymore. Ganking is a pretty legit playstyle in my book, even though I generally dont indulge in it. Money to be made, tears to be harvested, and most importantly it keeps crap from getting too damned boring in high sec.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Nitshe Razvedka
State War Academy Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2016.01.07 14:34:22 -
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admiral root wrote:OP, please learn to play Eve. Oh, and post on your main or GTFO, too. like you make posting nazi rules, delusions of grandeur you n your pig gtfo |
Amanda Rekenwhith
CODE - Industrial Compliance Division
49
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Posted - 2016.01.07 14:36:08 -
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"Game mechanics operating as intended." - Every GM who ever responded to complaints of this nature.
Have you tried bulkheading your freighter and keeping cargo value low (below 1 billion).
Or...have you bought a permit?
For dessert we're offering humble pie. -áWould you like some after you're done eating crow?
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Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
637
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Posted - 2016.01.07 14:36:56 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:admiral root wrote:OP, please learn to play Eve. Oh, and post on your main or GTFO, too. like you make posting nazi rules, delusions of grandeur you n your pig gtfo
Miner, please calm down. There is no need to get all riled up over some pixels. |
Paranoid Loyd
8086
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Posted - 2016.01.07 14:45:08 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:admiral root wrote:OP, please learn to play Eve. Oh, and post on your main or GTFO, too. like you make posting nazi rules, delusions of grandeur you n your pig gtfo Miner, please calm down. There is no need to get all riled up over some pixels. Ganker, please learn to spot bait and not take it.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Leila Meurtrier
Why Am I Not Surprised
73
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Posted - 2016.01.07 14:45:35 -
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Welp, completely wrong thread. Nvm. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
30733
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Posted - 2016.01.07 14:50:15 -
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Leila Meurtrier wrote:Welp, completely wrong thread. Nvm. *grabs Leila*
No you stay here forever!!!!!11111
RoAnnon wrote:
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
I just scanned for sites and I found a C3
The fleet is now forming, FC wants T3s
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2674
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Posted - 2016.01.07 14:52:23 -
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Oi. Generate your Yuri field in the appropriate place. That being my living room floor.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Ginnie
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2016.01.07 16:53:18 -
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To be fair, I understand the OP point. There really isn't a lot risked in High Sec ganking compared to the ships that are getting ganked. The gankers lose what a destroyer? A rookie ship? Most of the ships that CONCORD destroys according to their zkillboard page are pretty small.
There are ways that as players we can mitigate the risks of getting ganked on our own.
I regularly review the CONCORD zkillboard page and add the Alliances and Corporations whose players get destroyed in High Sec. I have 50 to 60 Alliances and Corporations with Terrible Standing. I watch Local, when players enter that have the little red box with the white tick mark in the middle, I dock up at a station and wait for them to leave.
I also randomly look at players in Local, especially, if I am traveling long distances for an escalated unrated DED site, and add players that have a negative security standing to my contacts list with Terrible Standing as well. I added a guy just the other night with a -9.7 security standing. He was a hunter and was out looking for prey.
Personally, I would like to see gankers lose something more than a little security standing and a T1 destroyer, but, yeah, its part of the game and we just need to learn to adapt to it and mitigate the risks as best we can.
All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream. -Edgar Allan Poe
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1591
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Posted - 2016.01.07 17:29:52 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:pig tears
We make the rules here, scum. Now post on your main or GTFO.
Don't like it? Wardec me.
Bet you won't.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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