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Zanthar Eos
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.01.08 02:16:04 -
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Logoshh Hellscream
Euphoria Released
WE FORM V0LTA
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Posted - 2016.01.08 02:17:16 -
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Joel Freon
No Vacancies
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Posted - 2016.01.08 02:17:17 -
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Dont let them take away refitting..its a valid gameplay that requires some thought process and quick reactions (looking at you lazerhawks video)
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Andronitis
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
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Posted - 2016.01.08 02:32:50 -
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Signed.
There has to be a compromise here somewhere. Loosing the ability to combat refit is a serious blow to all small scale capital fights, especially wormholes where mass is limited and utility is valued. |
Luft Reich
Suddenly Carebears
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Posted - 2016.01.08 02:40:40 -
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ISD Cyberdyne liked your forum post
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Ripley voltere
Laserhawkz
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Posted - 2016.01.08 02:41:50 -
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Hidden Semen
Laserhawkz
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Posted - 2016.01.08 02:43:04 -
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As the CEO of one of the largest and best WH corps in EVE, I can say we definitely need refitting.
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Long Muppet
Suddenly Carebears
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Posted - 2016.01.08 02:44:22 -
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Andy Koraka
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.01.08 03:02:18 -
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Signed. |
JohnHenry Holliday
Southern Cross Incorporated
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2016.01.08 03:13:20 -
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Signed. |
Miss Alekto
Razors Out
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Posted - 2016.01.08 03:14:16 -
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
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Posted - 2016.01.08 03:37:46 -
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Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Dominus Alterai
Star Freaks
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Posted - 2016.01.08 03:38:29 -
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Good lord, SIGNED.
Reducing your holes to a quivering mess since 2009.
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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
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Posted - 2016.01.08 03:41:42 -
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With the nerf to carriers this is no longer a needed change, it is just dumbing down eve combat and giving us less things to play with.
Signed.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
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Posted - 2016.01.08 03:43:38 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Prozn Zanjoahir wrote:Signed.
As a relatively new triage pilot having watched a number of in fight refitting videos I aspire to be able to effectively refit during combat - a very hard thing to master - to multiply the power of my ship. It is one of the few roles in fleet that require individual skill. Please don't take it away.
Nothing about refitting in combat is 'easy mode'. Except this change is the weapon timer. Not the aggression timer so it has no effect on logistics.
Which shows how little you know about this.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
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Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2016.01.08 04:02:04 -
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Refitting is a very cool mechanic, especially amongst subcap warfare. The coming changes will also really change the capital warfield and we should not pile on too many delta's at once. |
SeVenNight Deng
Tai-Chi
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2016.01.08 04:44:32 -
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This is a few "skill" that can distinguish a good pilot or bad pilot, even though it is not difficult to perform, not many ppls can do it perfectly in different scenario |
Chou Yakumo
Singularity Services inc
Singularity Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.01.08 05:05:50 -
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+1 to keep refitting as it is
Refitting like bombing, manual piloting and pre scanner skill nerf combat probing (k162 sig spawn, the current dscan implementation of the beta scanner, among others) are/were a precious few available examples in eve where actual skill is more valuable than just throwing n+1 bodies at a situation.
The nestor was a complete pile of trash unworthy of consideration beyond a nice shiny hangar toy for those who liked that sort of thing, the addition of refitting made it a viable ship, back to the dumpster for the nestor i suppose.
The upcoming capital changes will render the proposed changes to refitting moot.
Removal of sand from sandbox.
All these points in isolation are worthy of a degree of caution when a proposed mechanics change will cause negative consequences, given this change will hit on all 4 points and im certain more competent people than i can increase this list rather quickly, id have to vote yes to keeping refitting as is, at least til 2 updates after the fax machines are released at which point we would have enough information to make a informed decision as to whether anything needed tweaking. |
Maria Dragoon
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.08 05:16:00 -
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biz Antollare wrote:Maria Dragoon wrote:-1 I do not support this petition, change is the nature of survival, and in this case, they are making the change to balance capitals (carriers specially) so that they have less of a swiss army knife role. Because honestly, part of Eve is knowing your enemy before you engage them. this isnt a place to debate the petition. you either sign a petition or you dont.... nice alt post .
This is a place to debate the petition, because it called Player Features and Ideas Discussion not Player Features and Ideas Petition
This mechanic, ability to retrofit on the fly, in the MIDDLE of combat so that everyone has a counter, is an abysmal game play mechanic when it comes to finding intel, and actually properly fitting your fleet for the combat ahead. This mechanic in turn also GREATLY limits counter play, as combat then turns into who can identify and retrofit faster. That not strategy, that just who can click load loadout button faster. |
Nitris Denitrace
Catastrophic Overview Failure
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Posted - 2016.01.08 06:27:14 -
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Signed.
What's the difference between me and you?
I can still lock targets.
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Horrace Wimp
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.01.08 06:38:09 -
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I'm not sold on either option.
So I'll sign for postponing the fitting changes until the remaining changes have been pushed live and considered first. |
Starbuck Keikira
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Posted - 2016.01.08 06:40:52 -
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Signed.
As already stated so well by so many of my fellows here, combat refitting is a real skill and doesn't need to be tinkered with... there's plenty of other stuff to "fix". |
StFu JeRk
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2016.01.08 07:06:51 -
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ErrorRon
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.01.08 07:12:40 -
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+1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtItWL6GfSM
CCP Gargant - -áDev of my heart.
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Djafyh
Convicts and Savages
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2016.01.08 08:46:09 -
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Signed.
Don't change it. |
fenistil
Space-Brewery-Association
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Posted - 2016.01.08 08:52:06 -
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Signed.
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Jason Itiner
Harmless People
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Posted - 2016.01.08 09:03:42 -
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Signed. I'm especially against Triage being given a weapons timer. |
Vladimir Gennady
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.08 09:19:14 -
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Signed. No need to gimp an engaging and often difficult to execute play style. Refitting, at least as it applies to triage and sub-capital fights, does not need to be nerfed. |
taylor04
Hax.
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Posted - 2016.01.08 10:07:02 -
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All sub caps can refit..
 Dreads & Carriers can ONLY refit off
 mobile depot
Super
Titan
Because Carriers are far 2 dank with the option to refit, even in small numbers..
Super's & Titan's fit off each other as normal as they are a lrge investment
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Bradford Clear
Limited Power Inc
It Must Be Jelly Cause Jam Don't Shake
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Posted - 2016.01.08 10:09:57 -
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I would prefer to refit my dread in siege. It doesn't mean that it can out tank anyone it just simply means people need get smarter at adapting when they know caps are on grid. +1 for staying the same.
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