butthurt

Why should you get an killmail? You have NOT done the last shot.

Furthermore there are other examples, where you do not get an killmail. Think of ganking. The ganker does also get NO killmail

Oh no emo at all m8...

Btw, how many time have you self-destruct your ship so as to be so offended??



Also... no need for any killmails at all, right? .....
You can skip posting your kills/losses but some entities are working like that. If you dont want it dont use killboards, absolutely no harm for you. From the moment that you decide to self-destruct your ship so as to avoid the lossmail (that precious km that you refer to), it's YOU in the first place the one who is involved in this emo situation.

Bro, I don't give a damn about a loss mail. The only fact I would self destruct, is to **** you off. Ruin your day. **** on your breakfast plate and serve it steaming hot. What ever it takes, I will do it knowing you didn't enjoy losing to me.

I don't care how you percieve it that someone self destructing is lol-knocking the chess board over and walking away miffed, I know for a fact that you as typed in your opening post that you want that KM and I know how to deny it to you. I will take the loss of the ship no matter how much you think I am a sore loser, because in the end I don't f*cking care either way except that I know I took something precious from you and you had 2 minutes to try to take it from me but failed. Thats how I perceive it, you want something and I denied it. I win, you lose, I lost a ship, you didn't, = MAD (mutually assured destruction, you fire nukes we in turn fire back on you, we destroy your cities while you destroy ours and the end result is nobody actually wins)

There is no honor, no respect, nothing in this harsh universe called EVE that says you must have that KM and I can do damn well what I want to prevent you from having it (once its in your kill log, THEN you won). If there was some mutual respect and no asshattery (goons banging macks, Hulkaggedon, scams, corp theft) then I would let you have a KM because there was respect both ends but since no one else gives respect then, Hey! why not join in on it and ruin other people's gaming experience anyway you can short of out right stalking/harrassment.

I'm fairly certain your nose is growing.

Hey Goonie.. get killed by CONCORD and you will not receive a killmail for YOUR loss. That is what I mean. Shure you will get a killmail for the gank victim. But not for YOUR OWN loss as ganker.

If you self destruct without any aggression by others then you shouldnt get a killmail of course.

The whole self-destruct thing has its function.

But this feature is violated so as to escape from the killmail. If you dont have aggression, no mail (as it is now) but if someone has aggression on you then generate the mail. Logical thinking is that you get involved in a battle.

Not a major issue to me, but being able self destruct your ship to avoid a kill mail seems pretty lame.

If you self destruct you should get no insurance payout for starters.

To fix the killmail thing I would make it so there's an initial blast that takes you down to a fraction of your structure, followed 5 seconds later by the final explosion that blows up the ship. Giving your enemies time to land that final blow themselves.

That's a nice idea.

Actually, no. That would in effect reverse the intention of the self-destruct by actively helping your attacker to destroy your ship, all consequences included, like killmail and loot generation.

So... horrible idea.

Why should you be able to deny a killmail and loot to someone you've lost to in a fight?

If you can't kill a ship within two minutes you get nothing.

System is working as intended. Don't engage caps/supers/orcas/ freighters with scrub fleets.

That is all.