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king jks
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2007.01.24 06:06:00 -
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Pilgrim
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Dark Blood Medium Nosferatu Dark Blood Medium Nosferatu Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Faint Warp Prohibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Tracking Disruptor II Tracking Disruptor II
Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II
Rigs : Anti-Thermic Pump I \ Auxiliary Nano Pump I \
5x Valkyrie II 5x Warrior II
985 shield, 2.63/s, E/T/K/Ex=12/29/60/82 2250 armor, E/T/K/Ex=79/76/71/79 1171.875 cap, +11.14/s, -66.397/s 1280.0 m/s 0.0 DPS
Good? I feel better about putting the DB modules on my pilgrim rather than my curse since it can cloak. Oh and you need recon 5 to fit it. But any suggestions for rigs? ------------------------ Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. -Albert Einstein |

Draugz
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.24 08:46:00 -
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Corpum rep+800mm plate shines on the Pilgrim.
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Antskyeeh
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.01.24 18:30:00 -
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With 2 x PG rigs you can upgrade to 1600 plate for even more ebilness
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.01.24 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: king jks Pilgrim
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Dark Blood Medium Nosferatu Dark Blood Medium Nosferatu Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Faint Warp Prohibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Tracking Disruptor II Tracking Disruptor II
Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II
Rigs : Anti-Thermic Pump I \ Auxiliary Nano Pump I \
5x Valkyrie II 5x Warrior II
985 shield, 2.63/s, E/T/K/Ex=12/29/60/82 2250 armor, E/T/K/Ex=79/76/71/79 1171.875 cap, +11.14/s, -66.397/s 1280.0 m/s 0.0 DPS
Good? I feel better about putting the DB modules on my pilgrim rather than my curse since it can cloak. Oh and you need recon 5 to fit it. But any suggestions for rigs?
this can't possibly fit pg wise....
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Shigsy
Caldari Four Horsemen
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Posted - 2007.01.24 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: Shigsy on 24/01/2007 20:52:15
Originally by: Deathbarrage
Originally by: king jks Pilgrim
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Dark Blood Medium Nosferatu Dark Blood Medium Nosferatu Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Faint Warp Prohibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Tracking Disruptor II Tracking Disruptor II
Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II
Rigs : Anti-Thermic Pump I \ Auxiliary Nano Pump I \
5x Valkyrie II 5x Warrior II
985 shield, 2.63/s, E/T/K/Ex=12/29/60/82 2250 armor, E/T/K/Ex=79/76/71/79 1171.875 cap, +11.14/s, -66.397/s 1280.0 m/s 0.0 DPS
Good? I feel better about putting the DB modules on my pilgrim rather than my curse since it can cloak. Oh and you need recon 5 to fit it. But any suggestions for rigs?
this can't possibly fit pg wise....
Thats what i was thinking... its TOO good to be true.
And Best named neut is better than dark blood.

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king jks
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2007.01.24 22:42:00 -
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It fits with 6 PG left. Couldn't fit an 800mm plate. ------------------------ Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. -Albert Einstein |

Tisanta
Amarr Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom
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Posted - 2007.01.24 22:47:00 -
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my fit is best^^
2 nos ( not even the best named) 1 neut
2 balmer TDs ab II webber scrammer
2 TS eanm DCU II MAR II 800mm crystaline =D
hammer II hoby II ---

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Don K
untaught Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.01.25 23:05:00 -
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Hmm, my setup is like this:
Hiqh:
2x med noss t2 1x med neut t2 1x covert ops cloaking (suprice )
Med:
1x 20km 1x web 1x capinjector 2x traking disruptors
Low:
2x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane t2 1x Energized Thermic Membrane t2 1x Med rep t2 1x Small rep t2
Have about that ? I cant really find out, if I can do it better ...
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Aramendel
Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.26 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Don K 1x med neut t2
Never use a t2 neut, use the best named. It is better in every single aspect and only costs about as much as a t2 nos.
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FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.26 05:31:00 -
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Edited by: FraXy on 26/01/2007 05:27:40 CO Cloak Medium Unstable 2x Medium Diminishing
Faint 7.5k Fleeting Webber 3x EW slots
1600mm RT plate Medium Accomodation/True Sansha/Dark Blood Repper 2x True Sansha/Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Plating RCU II/True Sansha RCU/Dark Blood RCU
5x Medium T2 5x Light T2
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king jks
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.26 06:57:00 -
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Main reason I use the DB neut is because of the range, the DB nos has 15km range and the neut has 14km, but all considerations aside I'm wondering if I should sell it and get another DB nos and use the extra PG to fit a plate. ------------------------ Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. -Albert Einstein |

mematar
The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2007.01.26 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tisanta my fit is best^^
2 nos ( not even the best named) 1 neut
2 balmer TDs ab II webber scrammer
2 TS eanm DCU II MAR II 800mm crystaline =D
hammer II hoby II
If you dont use Corpum or repper rigs, PLEASE, fit 2 reppers, that will die to any bs any day if you are alone.
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FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.26 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: mematar
Originally by: Tisanta my fit is best^^
2 nos ( not even the best named) 1 neut
2 balmer TDs ab II webber scrammer
2 TS eanm DCU II MAR II 800mm crystaline =D
hammer II hoby II
If you dont use Corpum or repper rigs, PLEASE, fit 2 reppers, that will die to any bs any day if you are alone.
Not unless u are chewing more then u can bite.
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Draugz
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.26 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: king jks It fits with 6 PG left. Couldn't fit an 800mm plate.
You'd have to ditch your t2 reps, add a Corpum rep+800mm plate. Uses same amount of grid as x2 t2 reps. Corpum rep will be ur best investment made in a long time on a Pilgrim.
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Deaths Kiss
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Posted - 2007.01.28 15:57:00 -
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Anyone has a fitting with a (recon) probe launcher on it? I'm trying to fit it and i do have a setup, but i don't think it's all that. My basic conclusion till now is that you have to give up to much for the probelaunchers. Does everyone agree?
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Aramendel
Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.28 16:13:00 -
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Well, assuming recon 5, you would have to use one of your low slots for a dread gurista co-pro. Or shadow serpentis one, it might be enough - but a normal Co-pro 2 definately isn't. Not much of a problem, though, they are not that expensive. Loosing one low slot isn't THAT bad either.
However, this will only mean 2 nos/neuts, which might cripple the ship too much. 1 nos + 1 neut wouldn't be a good idea if you want to run a rep, too, and 2 nos are a bit underwhelming for cap warfare compared to 2 nos & 1 neut.
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DarkElf
Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.28 16:54:00 -
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personally speaking i wouldn't use that setup. irf not cap injected i would use 800 plate and 1 rep. the setup i'm using atm is cap injected and double rep but usually u can't break a bs's tank unless they run outta cap and when that happens u run outta cap pretty soon after and can't run double reps so plate makes u last longer.
just my thoughts
DE
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.28 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Tassi on 28/01/2007 16:54:53 Why do you fit speed mods on a pilgrim anyways?
Better use your cash to get a 14km webber, MUCH MUCH better.
EDIT: I use 2x nos, 1x neut - scram,web,injector,2x tracking disrupts - 2x med repper, dmg control EANMt2, thermic passive.
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Private Iron
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.28 17:34:00 -
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3x med dim nos, 1x cloak 1x 10mn ab II, 2x balmer tds, 1x best named disruptor, 1x fleeting web 1x mar II, 1x ss mar, 2x eanm II, 1x 800mm plate
rigs: 1x grid rig, 1x armour rep repair amount rig.
this setup makes me happy in the pants btw. fits with recon 4.
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DarkElf
Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.28 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Private Iron 3x med dim nos, 1x cloak 1x 10mn ab II, 2x balmer tds, 1x best named disruptor, 1x fleeting web 1x mar II, 1x ss mar, 2x eanm II, 1x 800mm plate
rigs: 1x grid rig, 1x armour rep repair amount rig.
this setup makes me happy in the pants btw. fits with recon 4.
mmm that's pretty nice. only downside is the TD's not being t2 but guessing they don't fit, big difference tho.
have u thought about changing a nos for a neut as i'm sure ur 3rd nos is a bit more cap that's needed
very nice setup tho
DE
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Private Iron
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.28 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Private Iron 3x med dim nos, 1x cloak 1x 10mn ab II, 2x balmer tds, 1x best named disruptor, 1x fleeting web 1x mar II, 1x ss mar, 2x eanm II, 1x 800mm plate
rigs: 1x grid rig, 1x armour rep repair amount rig.
this setup makes me happy in the pants btw. fits with recon 4.
mmm that's pretty nice. only downside is the TD's not being t2 but guessing they don't fit, big difference tho.
have u thought about changing a nos for a neut as i'm sure ur 3rd nos is a bit more cap that's needed
very nice setup tho
DE
Balmer TDs are the same as T2 but they take 32 cpu instead of 48, this setup also only fits with something like 0.5 cpu spare.
Changing the nos to a neut would probably be feasible, but I prefer the extra cap to run my reps. -----
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DarkElf
Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.28 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Private Iron
Balmer TDs are the same as T2 but they take 32 cpu instead of 48, this setup also only fits with something like 0.5 cpu spare.
aha. i stand corrected 
DE
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Arabian Goggle
The Dirty Dozen
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Posted - 2007.01.31 16:07:00 -
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I find that 1 Tracking Disruptor II is more than enough to keep anything but a frig from hitting you if you are orbiting (even slowly). That said, I tend to fit a ECM burst (not sure how well this actually works in reality) or a remote sensor dampener II to keep them from continually targetting my drones.
The only thing I don't get is how some people are able to tank well-fitted ravens. I was playing around on Sisi with this and was able to tank a T1 fitted raven (bearly) with dual reps. If you have found a way to tank T2 ravens, how the heck to you keep up with the missiles once his cap is drained? I seem to have to rely on my 3 x NOS to keep my repairers running (this is with 2 CCC rigs and max skills on everything)
What do you guys think of using a MWD and nanos to speed tank missile boats? This is Caldari Online after all and I see a lot of Ravens.
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FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.31 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Arabian Goggle I find that 1 Tracking Disruptor II is more than enough to keep anything but a frig from hitting you if you are orbiting (even slowly). That said, I tend to fit a ECM burst (not sure how well this actually works in reality) or a remote sensor dampener II to keep them from continually targetting my drones.
The only thing I don't get is how some people are able to tank well-fitted ravens. I was playing around on Sisi with this and was able to tank a T1 fitted raven (bearly) with dual reps. If you have found a way to tank T2 ravens, how the heck to you keep up with the missiles once his cap is drained? I seem to have to rely on my 3 x NOS to keep my repairers running (this is with 2 CCC rigs and max skills on everything)
What do you guys think of using a MWD and nanos to speed tank missile boats? This is Caldari Online after all and I see a lot of Ravens.
Use a Curse.
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Arabian Goggle
The Dirty Dozen
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Posted - 2007.01.31 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: FraXy
Use a Curse.
I would tend to agree in the case of a gang - 5 nos, 4 remote sensor damps and a MWD = easy mode. But I am looking more at a solo pvp ship. The cloak just makes the pilgrim a perfect ship for this.
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king jks
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2007.01.31 20:28:00 -
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Nanocurse ftw ^_^
I feel it useless to nano fit a pilgrim, since you don't have the benefit of >30km nossing. ------------------------ Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. -Albert Einstein |

Aramendel
Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.31 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Arabian Goggle I would tend to agree in the case of a gang - 5 nos, 4 remote sensor damps and a MWD = easy mode. But I am looking more at a solo pvp ship. The cloak just makes the pilgrim a perfect ship for this.
If it had a range instead strength bonus, yes. But since it hasn't, no. You cannot make any stable missile-tanking orbit within 12k range.
Also, most targets are nowadays so damnable careful that they safespot as soon as you enter local. You can make a very viable nano-damp setup with the curse which includes a scan probe launcher. Easily increased my solo kills by a factor of 2-3 since I am using it.
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Aramendel
Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.03 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Private Iron 3x med dim nos, 1x cloak 1x 10mn ab II, 2x balmer tds, 1x best named disruptor, 1x fleeting web 1x mar II, 1x ss mar, 2x eanm II, 1x 800mm plate
rigs: 1x grid rig, 1x armour rep repair amount rig.
this setup makes me happy in the pants btw. fits with recon 4.
I am using now 2* meditation reps and 2* rep amount rigs. Only costs about 30 mil more and repairs 15% more. Also has the best capeffeciency you can achive with any dual mar + 800mm plate setups, including those involving deadspace MARs.
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Kam'Sing Tung
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Posted - 2007.02.13 11:40:00 -
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New to the pilgrim but here goes.
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II True Sansha Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Nosferatu True Sansha Medium Nosferatu
10mn Afterburner II True Sansha Stasis Webifier 20km Warp Disruptor Balmer Tracking Disruptor Balmer Tracking Disruptor
Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Brokara's Adaptive Nano Plating
As you can see, the ship is a work in progress, I am hoping to swap the TS webber for the Domination version just to get out of range a little more (orbit at 14km instead of 12).
For the Medium Armor Repairer I was thinking of swapping that for a TS or Corpum. Then I will not need the other MAR and would either stick a 800plate which has been suggested or go for an extra passive hardner, Explosive or Thermic.
And yes I am using an adaptive nano plating, getting a good one with armor compensation skills can make it just as powerful as the EANM II (atm the brokara gives me about 22.5% all around). And the freeing up of CPU enabled me to stick the extra MAR.
Atm I have resists of between 80 and 70%, the 2 MAR is really useful. I have not put on a neutraliser because I will use the ship for 1v1 and my armor repairers need the 3 nos. I have tanked a raven with cruise, and a hurricane with t2 guns (very testing as he could still shoot without cap).
What I would really like to see is an extra high slot go towards the Pilgrim. It would give it the same amount of slots as the curse, and I would consider sticking a medium neut, because atm, 2nos and 1 neut seems wasteful. so please CCP i pray :D
Btw to the op. I assume you mean the named cruiser afterburner rather than a microwarpdrive right? Because afaik theres not enough grid or cpu for that setup.
But yeah, the best way to fly a pilgrim is with pimped mods :D you're spending about 150mill for ship and cov ops cloak so why not go an extra 200 for a damn good ship :D
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Aramendel
Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.13 12:10:00 -
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If you use 2 EAN/AN use a DC2 instead a 3rd EAN. Unless you are using 3 > 21% base resistance faction nanos the DC2 gives you a better armor resistance boost since it is uneffected by stacking penalities. And of cource shield and hullresistances.
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