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Dudemeister
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Posted - 2007.01.24 09:21:00 -
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As usual, I'm sorry if this is the wrong forum. :)
In a way, I consider EVE a perfect laptop game, and since I've been tempted to buy a laptop for a while, this adds further to the temptation. The problem is that I really don't know much about laptops.
I figure RAM and CPU should be pretty much the same, so if I buy one with a Sempron 64 3400+ CPU and 512 MB of DDR2 RAM, it should run EVE decently (correct me if I'm wrong though!). The crunch part for me is always the graphics - will it be enough or won't it? I hope I can draw on some experience from other people, as far as I can tell a lot of you use laptops.
The one I've got my eye on right now has the aforementioned specs, and the GFX part is a "NVIDIA GeForce GO 6100 integrated Graphics with 64Mb of shared system memory". That memory part doesn't sound very good, so another one I've seen had a "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950". I've never heard of either.
Can somebody help me out?
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VunnaX
Silent Assasins of Bosut City
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Posted - 2007.01.24 09:35:00 -
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Shared graphic memory + EVE = chatting in station and some trading, but not in Jita. I know cause I have it. Missions, PvP, mining (it's not like I mine, but...), for that you need separate graphics card. |
Dudemeister
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Posted - 2007.01.24 09:37:00 -
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Alright, nevermind the first one then - what about the other one?
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Khyle
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.24 09:39:00 -
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Edited by: Khyle on 24/01/2007 09:38:22
I played Eve on my laptop for quite some time(long bussiness trips), having a now 2,5 half years old laptop with a NVidia GeForce Go 5200 64MB(non-shared, i think), Intel Pentium M 1.8 GHz.
The graphics card never seemed a problem, what was a problem was 512MB ram, which i then quickly upgraded to 1GB. In my case Eve is often played while multitasking, and thus the ram was the bottleneck, causing delays and loadtimes every time i switch windows.
A bit odd was that i could run 2 accounts at the same time, but i always had to minimize one to prevent one of them just closing(crashing).
A graphics card with more memory could have helped there i guess.
Just from the name i would suggest against the second, it looks like a card tuned for office and stuff, and not for 3d applications.
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Dudemeister
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Posted - 2007.01.24 09:43:00 -
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Thanks for your replies so far, I've already saved myself some money there.
Another one I've just seen is an ATI Radeon Express 200. It doesn't say how much memory it has, but it does say it is an "integrated" card. Guess that's no good either then?
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Homo Hening
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Posted - 2007.01.24 09:51:00 -
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Get 1024MB RAM and keep far away from any form of shared graphics. Try and get a graphic card designed for laptops just as long as it's not shared.
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Arvald
Caldari
APEX Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.01.24 09:59:00 -
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i only play eve on my laptop i have 1 gig of ram a duo core 64 procesor and with that i can play eve and watch startrek (i know sad isnt it) on th esame screen with no problems so if you have a duo core then power isnt as much as an issue
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Dudemeister
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Posted - 2007.01.24 09:59:00 -
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Arvald, what kind of graphics card do you have in your's?
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Arvald
Caldari
APEX Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.01.24 10:04:00 -
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right forgot about teh card i have an ati radeon xpress 200m series with 128mb memory
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Dudemeister
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Posted - 2007.01.24 10:06:00 -
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Thanks a lot! If other people could tell me which graphics card they have in their laptops, I'd be mighty happy.
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Sylaan
Caldari
Rakeriku
Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2007.01.24 11:33:00 -
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I have a Dell Inspiron 9400 with an ATI x1400 graphics card. The laptop is running dual-core Intel processor at 1.8Ghz and has 1GB or RAM. Eve runs perfectly in all situations.
I'd say as long as you have a decent video card (i.e. non-shared) and 1GB of ram you should be fine.
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Greenwing
SuX ltd.
Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.24 11:47:00 -
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I've got a Acer Travelmate 800 (3 years old, centrino 1GHz, 512 MB and with a ATI MOBILITY RADEONÖ 9000 ) Works very well, only when it's getting really busy onscreen the fps is going down (don't know if this is because of graphics,memory or processor) but it's still very playable.
I bought specifically this laptop because it was (3 years ago) one of the few which had a decent, not-integrated graphics card.
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2007.01.24 12:47:00 -
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i have a XPS m1710
hehe
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Boomhaur
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Posted - 2007.01.24 12:57:00 -
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I got a 3.2ghz laptop with hyperthreading, 512mb ram, and a Geforce FX Go 5200 vid card in here an it runs fine. I have no problems with the ram.
I can monitor it constantly due to Googles System Monitor, an EVE is in a window. So the whole you must get 1gb ram kinda thing aint true I have no problems. Than again I reinstaled the OS myself an got most of the junk that my laptop came with not start on start up, an I dont tend to run many apps while playing games. But if you have that bad habbit go for it slap 1gb of ram in it, it wont hurt the laptop.
But just a bit of a warning, laptops can get pretty hot. An after awhile the fan MAY get cloged up with tons of dust an start to overheat like mine did. So every once in awhile spray the fan with a can of compressed air(or if your confident in your ability in taking it apart, an possibly voiding warrenty, do so an clean it out if you use it 24/7 like I do)
Oh an by constant use I mean have it on for almost none stop for months at a time. As for me it took my laptops fan to get a bit cloged up dispite the fact it had good ventalation behind it bout 9months or so, an another couple months till I was able to fry eggs on it if I chose to do so.
Also look into Google Desktop, an the HDDlife which tells you your Hard Drive temp and System Monitor(ram,cpu,disk, network usage displayed), those little things help you like there is no tommrow in trouble shooting your computer when something happens. An will help you decide if you really need that extra 512mb ram.
Sorry for the rant, but this is just a few little things I learned from my laptop that I wished I known from the start, figured I'd try to pass the knowledge around.
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Mista Sexamalicious
Sexa Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.24 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Mista Sexamalicious on 24/01/2007 12:59:53
Edited by: Mista Sexamalicious on 24/01/2007 12:56:34
 Originally by: Greenwing
I've got a Acer Travelmate 800 (3 years old, centrino 1GHz, 512 MB and with a ATI MOBILITY RADEONÖ 9000 ) Works very well, only when it's getting really busy onscreen the fps is going down (don't know if this is because of graphics,memory or processor) but it's still very playable.
I bought specifically this laptop because it was (3 years ago) one of the few which had a decent, not-integrated graphics card.
Do think or have any idea if the Mobility 7000 series will run EVE? The reason I ask is because the 7000 is 32mb.
And if it doesn't that means I'll have to separate with one of my precious boxes so a family member can play EVE with me. And that has me kinda torn atm.
Should I help them play with me or hoard all my preciouses .
SEXEH!
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.01.24 13:03:00 -
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Ati X700 with 256 memory. 1 Gig RAM in machine and 1.8 MHZ processor.
In bigger missions it's usually good idea to tune down graphix a bit. If you want to run 2 account in missions, then you will need to even turn off all effects to avoid total screen freezing. But then again, level 4 missions are almost as messy as fleet fights with up to 100 hostiles plus gas clouds and other effects on the screen. Go for separate gfx card if you can. EVE does not go well with some built in ones. especially the fonts might be unreadable.
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Escaped Convict
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Posted - 2007.01.24 13:05:00 -
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My laptop has a 2.3 GHz core 2 duo 2Gb ram and a 7900GTX 512 graphics it runs all 4 accounts at the same time on its 1920x1200 screen with ease no issues other than the res is too small for me to read what peeps are saying but i just shoot them anyways so i dosnt matter is about 5 months old now and dell are selling it for more now than when i bought it?
if youre buying a laptop with a good graphics card i would wait till vista is out good and propper so you could:
a) Buy a 8000 chip DX10 card to take advantige of eves new graphics engine due anytime soon
b) Buy a cheap out of date 7000 chip "when vista is out" and save load of cash :)
c) Do the above but with ATI "if they get a DX10 card out in time"
i think the new graphics engine will work with a DX9 just not as well but im not sure.
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Reyrith
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.24 13:26:00 -
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Just recently cought a laptop, With AMD turion 64 X2, 1gb of ddr2 RAM, dedicated ATI x1600 gcard (brilliant gcard :)).
Runs eve great, no problems, no lag.
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Minikrimi Extreme
Zephyr Manufacturing Group
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.24 13:30:00 -
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I bought a laptop specifically for Eve a year and a half ago, it took trips to Best Buy, Circuit City, Frys, Comp USA and a couple other stores. There was only one I could find with what I needed and in my price range, and that was at Circuit City. I have a 2.4GHz proc, 512MB RAM, and a x600 Mobility, with a monster screen. I mean monster. Thing weighs a ton, but I carry it with me to campus every day to run courier missions while focusing on other things, and its battery lasts about an hour max with a full charge. If I run on battery, my fps drops from a tolerable 35 to an unplayable 5-7.
It was one of four laptops that I could find in-stock that did not have an integrated graphics card. It took me a week and a half to find a project that required the laptop so I could write an undergraduate research grant to get it  I'm hoping it will keep me Eve-ing on the go while I get my MS for the next couple of years.
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Miss Blaster
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Posted - 2007.01.24 14:47:00 -
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got a laptop just before X-mas .Cost a lot but it deserve the money i paid . I have around 100Fps in fleet battles ( more than 200 ships) and have W buffer activated , but still lagging in Jita .My configuration is : AMD Turion 64 Mobile 2.0GHz , 2 GB Ram , dual 7900 GS 256MB SLI , the total cost was around 2000$ and it comes with a 17" display . Really worth the money , the laptop is Alienware m9700 .See
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.24 14:48:00 -
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Avoid getting anything with shared graphics memory at all costs.
A Radeon x200 is likely outpowered by cards from the late 1990s 
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Ghostshadow
Caldari
Templars of Space
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Posted - 2007.01.24 15:00:00 -
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I got a HP zd8000 2gig of ram, ati Mobile radedon x600 with 256MB memory and a P4 3.4Ghz CPU and an awesome 17" truevision screen 
I can run 2 clients no problems on this... then again it weighs 10+ pounds and the heatvents can pretty much make you sterile if you hold on your lap for a given amount of time.
Duo cores were not out yet when i bought this =(
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Sqalevon
Masuat'aa Matari
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Posted - 2007.01.24 15:07:00 -
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I bought a Asus A6T Series laptop last summer and runs EVE perfectly in 1280*800.
1 Gigh of ram
Dual 1.6Ghz proc
100Gb HD
And a Nvidea 7600 Go with 265mb ram to top it off.
Cost me 1200 Euro's but I bet you can get it cheaper now.
It's also great for movies thanks to the widescreen.
I love the thing.
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Blue Fin
Caldari
Silver Eagles
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Posted - 2007.01.24 15:15:00 -
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I have a Fujitsu Siemens with an ATI 700 mobile card in it.
If you are a bit confused about Laptop graphics, do what I did and take a look here
Linkage
Might take some of the pain away
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Logi3
sasha and co
Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2007.01.24 15:24:00 -
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In work i play on a:
P4 3.4 (Non HT)
1024MB DDR Ram
Radeon 9700/64mb
Runs fine, get 40fps when NPCing etc :)
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Mysterious Stranger
Caldari
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.24 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Mysterious Stranger on 24/01/2007 15:24:53
I thought I'd toss in my experience as well :)
I have an Acer Aspire 1681 WLMI I believe...
important specs
Pentium M 1.6 ghz
512 megs ram
ATI 9700 Mobility 64 meg
60 gig 5400 rpm harddrive
1280x800 resolution (something like that sorry I just woke up)
The game runs really well on it even considering the RAM, although the ram memory isn't shared. It's perfect for playing Eve on the go, although the laptop is 3.5 years old.
Take your time to look for a good laptop with good specs. I found this one being advertised locally for a great price, as this model was comparable to Acer's higher end ferrari series (without the paintjob) while saving $1200 CDN. Pretty good for 3 years ago as I haven't really been in the laptop market since. :)
Originally by: Sharkbait
please for the love of god read the dam stickies
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Flor Jon
Gallente
Friendship 7 Corporation
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.01.24 15:33:00 -
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I got the Dell XPS m1710 with 512 mb grapics and 2 gig internal memory. I can run 2 clients at the same time in the highest res with every detail enabled without problems :)
And it's a quiet laptop too.
Downside is ofcourse you have to pay for it...
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Ice9
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Posted - 2007.01.24 15:42:00 -
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I've got a laptop with an ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 in it and it sucks bigtime. This is a p4-2400 CPU with 1Gb ram and it plays EVE very, very poorly.
My brother has a similarly specced laptop with a GeForce Go 7600 graphics chip and it's a LOT faster. Plays EVE fine, make of it what you will :/
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Druadan
Gallente
Aristotle Enterprises
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.24 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Druadan on 24/01/2007 15:40:25
I sometimes play EVE on my Windows dualboot on my Macbook, which has onbaord graphics. Does combat fine, but I would never take it into PvP just because the trackpad is too awkward - Windows doesn't handle them too well.
[EDIT: MacBook is Core Duo 1.83, 1GB RAM.]
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Bawldeux IV
Green Lantern Corps
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Posted - 2007.01.24 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: VunnaX
Shared graphic memory + EVE = chatting in station and some trading, but not in Jita. I know cause I have it. Missions, PvP, mining (it's not like I mine, but...), for that you need separate graphics card.
not really...was using a Lenovo t43 with 512M...mined, did a fare bit of npc hunting...was not as spiffy as my gaming pc, but it did the job just fine when traveling.
But for the top notch graphics, ya, you do need a powerful video card, and really should have at least 1 gig ram (2-4 would be better)
recommend to wait 6-8 months, then buy the cards that were released now (with dx10 ability) and save a bit (in 6 months, it is old, outdated, and cheaper, but still good gear)
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Serielle
Reign Technologies
Solaris Consortium
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Posted - 2007.01.24 16:14:00 -
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I'm running a Compaq Presario V5000 with a 1.9ghz AMD, ATI RX 200m card and 512mb RAM. I've been able to do everything I've wanted to do so far, i.e. mine, rat, pvp, etc. with no problems other than the occasional lag that we all experience from time to time. Sure, the FPS isn't great, but it gets the job done, and I can run Firefox or Photoshop at the same time. When I upgrade my memory, I'm sure it'll run even better.
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Gaiam
Gallente
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2007.01.24 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ghostshadow
I got a HP zd8000 2gig of ram, ati Mobile radedon x600 with 256MB memory and a P4 3.4Ghz CPU and an awesome 17" truevision screen
I can run 2 clients no problems on this... then again it weighs 10+ pounds and the heatvents can pretty much make you sterile if you hold on your lap for a given amount of time.
Duo cores were not out yet when i bought this =(
i have the same computer, great BIG laptop, its cut down on my heating bills since it makes like 500 watts of heat. with 2gb ram and the 256mb x600 card i run in space around 60-70 fps.
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Dudemeister
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Posted - 2007.01.24 20:39:00 -
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Thanks a lot to everyone who replied to this thread, it helped me quite a lot. :)
I've got my eyes set on this one now:
AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile technology TL-52
1024Mb DDR2 667 RAM, 667Mhz.
15.4in WXGA high definition brightview display
NVIDIA GeFORCE Go 7200 graphics.
I gather from the page I've been linked to that the Geforce Go is dedicated, and 7200 is actually quite good, and I also figure that the Turion is a dual core? Plus, it's got a gigabyte of ram, which I guess should do nicely. :)
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.24 21:45:00 -
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AMD 64 something 2ghz or other....
Radeon mobility X1600 1gb ram....
Runs 2 or 3 eve clients easy :D
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2007.01.24 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117
i have a XPS m1710
hehe
I also use this laptop, 2.16Ghz Centrino Duo, 2GB RAM, 100GB HDD, Geforce GO 7900GTX (512mb)
I can run 3 eve clients fine (gets a little hot though) i LOVE this machine.
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Foulis
Minmatar
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.25 04:00:00 -
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I'm picking up a new laptop in a couple of months to replace my 5 year old computer...
Aurora MLX, 2 gig ram, 400 gig hdd (dual hdd raid), dual 512mb Nvidia GeForce go 7900 gtx(SLI enabled), AMD Turion 64 Mobile ML44 2.4 ghz.
Think it'll run eve ok?
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solarwinds
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.25 04:36:00 -
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I've got a one year old Compaq R4000 with Athlon 64 3500+ and 1gb RAM. It has the Radeon Xpress 200m chipset with 256mb dedicated memory - works about as well as an x300. No major problems running EVE (in fact, it's running right now with IE 7 and Outlook 2007 open - AFK hauling FTW) but the hard drive is slow as crap. Takes forever to load stuff. Gonna order a new Momentus 7200rpm drive when I get a chance - should fix that problem nicely. Otherwise, good laptop.
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Cammulos
Magnetar Ltd
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Posted - 2007.01.25 04:57:00 -
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Just bought an Asus G1 Mobile Gaming Notebook not more than 2 weeks ago, is a great laptop. Plays Obivion, BF 2142, X3, EvE flawlessly. My only issue with it being the keyboard, but when ya buy a mobile notebook thats what ya get. Not a Full size keyboard and 21in display that you can carry around
2ghz Core 2 7600
2gb DDR667
120GB HDD
Geforce Go 7700 512DDR3
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Lianhaun
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.25 10:20:00 -
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I have a Sony VAIO fe and it works really well it handles 2 active eve clients without problems and a third if it's not doing too much. It also keeps my lap warm and I wish there were mini laptops for my feet and hands.
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Buggs
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.01.25 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jiekon
Originally by: The Wizz117
i have a XPS m1710
hehe
I also use this laptop, 2.16Ghz Centrino Duo, 2GB RAM, 100GB HDD, Geforce GO 7900GTX (512mb)
I can run 3 eve clients fine (gets a little hot though) i LOVE this machine.
Got the same machine about 9 months ago. Runs 3 accounts with no problem. But because the heat generated on this beast, it burnt out the vid. card about a month ago. Dell sent a tech to the house within a day, and replaced it for no charge. Have since bought a "cooler". Not heard the internal cooling fans turn on since.
Which ever system you decide on, make sure you purchase a cooler for it (cheap, $20 to $50 US).
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
RevoLution Of DarkNess
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Posted - 2007.01.25 12:10:00 -
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Anyone tried to play on a Dell m1210?
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SirDeadalot
British Space Corporation
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Posted - 2007.01.25 12:39:00 -
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I have a laptop I use as a test rig. It is an old Toshiba Centrino (1.3GHz Pentium M), with 1Gb Ram and an Nvidia GeForce4 420Go with 32Mb RAM. The machine is also running Windows Vista RC1.
It plays Eve okay, even for a little mining provided there is not too much going on. I wouldn't recommend it for PvP though.
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Sisco Deivas
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.01.25 12:45:00 -
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I have a 3.4 Ghz P4 (yes it ******* burns my lap before you ask :P) 2GB of ram and a x800 256MB gfx card :), runs eve perfectly .
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Rover Vitesse
Gallente
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.25 16:37:00 -
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I bought an Acer Aspire 5101AWLMI - mine came with 1G of RAM - last weekend for when work sends me away from home. Runs Eve just fine. If you are in the UK PCWorld sell this for ú499.99 inc VAT.
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