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Siege
Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2007.01.25 01:22:00 -
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Ok, this one was new to me, and a bit disturbing.
Was sitting at a gate, and intel said that an Armageddon was about to jump through. Yummy! The gate activates, the geddon appears, I click to lock... and it's already warped away. Others with me saw the same thing, the ship uncloaked and warped away faster than a shuttle or pod warp can warp. The accelleration up to warp velocity seemed almost instantaneous. Since then, I've been hearing rumors of folks seeing other battleships do the same.
Is this a symptom of the "Nano-Stacking" that folks have been seeing? Combine this with warp-to-zero, and it's getting freakin hard to even get a chance to shoot at anything. I'd rate this as close to being uncatchable as anything I've seen yet.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.25 01:28:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 25/01/2007 01:25:15 He likely has 8 inertia stabilizers in lows.
Counting the effect of mass, an Armageddon with 8 local hull inertial stabilizers should get into warp 11.22 times faster than one without.
If Inertial Stabilizers weren't overpowered and the mass reduction didn't affect agility (and only the agility bonus did), the factor would be a mere 3.05.
The problem with inertial stabilizers in terms of warping speed is that the mass reduction is effectively a second agility bonus.
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Firane
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.25 01:41:00 -
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Even a Stiletto with a sensor booster has difficulty catching nano-ships, especially if they warp to something thats already in their direction.
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Tasuric Orka
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.25 01:56:00 -
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Ah yes, i-stabs... Give it time, i'm sure it's on the 'to nerf" list.
Originally by: Deja Thoris The dead horse has now been flogged into puree.
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Hoshi
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.01.25 02:01:00 -
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Who needs stabs when there are i-stabs. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |

Siege
Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2007.01.25 02:20:00 -
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If it's all stabs, i'm annoyed how fast it can get away, but not worried in the least. In combat it's going to act like a giant interceptor, except for the fact that the bigger signature radius will make it easier to hit... and the tracking speeds of it's turrets will give it a huge accuracy disadvantage.
Other than Nos, all the other anti-interceptor tricks should work against it just fine.
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Stitcher
Caldari J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.25 02:35:00 -
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somehow, "Nanogeddon" just rolls off the tongue a bit more easily than "Nanophoon" or "Nanodomi"...
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.01.25 02:40:00 -
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Edited by: Roemy Schneider on 25/01/2007 02:41:58 the funny thing is, nanofibers give extra speed... however, since you need a certain percentage of your max speed to go into warp, the time saved via agility bonus is partially consumed by the extra speed which you have to build up aswell i-stabs don't nerf "themselves"...
(if you don't know what the heck i'm talking about, try webbing a corp mate's freighter while he gathers up speed to warp) (unless acceleration acts like a recharge time - then my theory is totally off :o )
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Origin Prior
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Posted - 2007.01.25 03:23:00 -
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Edited by: Origin Prior on 25/01/2007 03:20:23
Originally by: Siege Was sitting at a gate, and intel said that an Armageddon was about to jump through. Yummy!
You were gate camping, how lame can you get.
I'm glad that your here WHINING LIKE THE GIRL YOU ARE because someone got away from your sissy kill attempt.
What a tool.
Would you like a Waa'Burger with a side order of French-Cries? How about a Whine-iki? 
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.25 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Siege Ok, this one was new to me, and a bit disturbing.
Was sitting at a gate, and intel said that an Armageddon was about to jump through. Yummy! The gate activates, the geddon appears, I click to lock... and it's already warped away. Others with me saw the same thing, the ship uncloaked and warped away faster than a shuttle or pod warp can warp. The accelleration up to warp velocity seemed almost instantaneous. Since then, I've been hearing rumors of folks seeing other battleships do the same.
Is this a symptom of the "Nano-Stacking" that folks have been seeing? Combine this with warp-to-zero, and it's getting freakin hard to even get a chance to shoot at anything. I'd rate this as close to being uncatchable as anything I've seen yet.
use bubble not forum. bubble will stop him, forum will not.
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
Quote: jake sisko > its f-e's bob dev alt making lag
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Mikojo
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Posted - 2007.01.25 04:02:00 -
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Edited by: Mikojo on 25/01/2007 03:59:00
Originally by: Origin Prior Edited by: Origin Prior on 25/01/2007 03:20:23
Originally by: Siege Was sitting at a gate, and intel said that an Armageddon was about to jump through. Yummy!
You were gate camping, how lame can you get.
I'm glad that your here WHINING LIKE THE GIRL YOU ARE because someone got away from your sissy kill attempt.
What a tool.
Would you like a Waa'Burger with a side order of French-Cries? How about a Whine-iki? 
You changed my life with the usefulness of your post.
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Lyn30101
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Posted - 2007.01.25 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 25/01/2007 01:25:15 He likely has 8 inertia stabilizers in lows.
Counting the effect of mass, an Armageddon with 8 local hull inertial stabilizers should get into warp 11.22 times faster than one without.
If Inertial Stabilizers weren't overpowered and the mass reduction didn't affect agility (and only the agility bonus did), the factor would be a mere 3.05.
The problem with inertial stabilizers in terms of warping speed is that the mass reduction is effectively a second agility bonus.
Wait, wait, wait, there's a tactic to legitimately counter bubblecamps, and you scream nerf?
Would you rather he logged instead?
seriously, non-consensual pvp doesn't mean we can't find legit ways to non-consesually NOT pvp.... ------
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Muskiet
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Posted - 2007.01.25 04:08:00 -
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Sounds to me that this is a simple logging issue. The guy jumped in, saw you sitting there and logged. His ship went into jump without him piloting it. It's just a theory, but because he didn't technically initiate a warp himself the ship might have stayed cloaked untill the moment before it warped.
Just a theory, but seems possible to me.
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Origin Prior
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Posted - 2007.01.25 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Mikojo Edited by: Mikojo on 25/01/2007 03:59:00
Originally by: Origin Prior Edited by: Origin Prior on 25/01/2007 03:20:23
Originally by: Siege Was sitting at a gate, and intel said that an Armageddon was about to jump through. Yummy!
You were gate camping, how lame can you get.
I'm glad that your here WHINING LIKE THE GIRL YOU ARE because someone got away from your sissy kill attempt.
What a tool.
Would you like a Waa'Burger with a side order of French-Cries? How about a Whine-iki? 
You changed my life with the usefulness of your post.
Sarcasm, one of the many services I offer.
I think I read that on a shirt not too long ago. 
And the idea of the finishing crying sentence was to be as lame as this post and his gate camping tactics.
And no, I've never been killed in a gate camp. 
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Sir MilBanacky
Stronghold corp Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.25 05:01:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 25/01/2007 01:25:15 He likely has 8 inertia stabilizers in lows.
Counting the effect of mass, an Armageddon with 8 local hull inertial stabilizers should get into warp 11.22 times faster than one without.
If Inertial Stabilizers weren't overpowered and the mass reduction didn't affect agility (and only the agility bonus did), the factor would be a mere 3.05.
The problem with inertial stabilizers in terms of warping speed is that the mass reduction is effectively a second agility bonus.
Yes a Second agility bonus at what cost? All your low slots are gone and useless.
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Strel Samodelkin
Caldari Nationalist Party
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Posted - 2007.01.25 05:03:00 -
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Thats just speed hacking. It can be easily done.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.25 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lyn30101
Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 25/01/2007 01:25:15 He likely has 8 inertia stabilizers in lows.
Counting the effect of mass, an Armageddon with 8 local hull inertial stabilizers should get into warp 11.22 times faster than one without.
If Inertial Stabilizers weren't overpowered and the mass reduction didn't affect agility (and only the agility bonus did), the factor would be a mere 3.05.
The problem with inertial stabilizers in terms of warping speed is that the mass reduction is effectively a second agility bonus.
Wait, wait, wait, there's a tactic to legitimately counter bubblecamps, and you scream nerf?
Would you rather he logged instead?
seriously, non-consensual pvp doesn't mean we can't find legit ways to non-consesually NOT pvp....
I've escaped bubble camps without the logoffski and im pretty sure there was no bubble to begin with 
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Flesh Eater
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Posted - 2007.01.25 05:14:00 -
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I highly doubt it was less than a second.
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Moraguth
Amarr Rangers
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Posted - 2007.01.25 05:22:00 -
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Normally I'd be right in there bashing you for being a pirate and stuff, and telling you to "stfu n00b" or some such BS. However, I have to agree with you, that's pretty crazy.
How about a very tiny pseudo-bash since i can't help it? Hopefully, this'll convince pirates to try to get people in belts and stuff more. I know it's much much much harder to do that, but If you catch them at a belt, you can pretty much guarantee they don't have (more than 1) stabs fitted and they're also probabaly not fitted with a retarded ammount of nanos or inertial stabilizers.
Who Knows.
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Pepperami
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.01.25 06:21:00 -
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Your gank squad probably webbed him before scrambling (or he had more wcs than points and got webbed).
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Verite Rendition
Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2007.01.25 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 25/01/2007 01:25:15 He likely has 8 inertia stabilizers in lows.
Counting the effect of mass, an Armageddon with 8 local hull inertial stabilizers should get into warp 11.22 times faster than one without.
If Inertial Stabilizers weren't overpowered and the mass reduction didn't affect agility (and only the agility bonus did), the factor would be a mere 3.05.
The problem with inertial stabilizers in terms of warping speed is that the mass reduction is effectively a second agility bonus.
Normally I'm not one to argue with you DS, but it's been in my experience that this is not true, the mass reduction only affects MWD/AB speeds, not unboosted speeds or acceleration/deceleration. Are you 110% sure of this? ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic |

Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.25 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Flesh Eater I highly doubt it was less than a second.
I lock a BS in 0.4 secs...
I was playing with a typhoon at gate..it wouldnt agress, so I asked the gang to jump in from the far gate to make it jump.
It jumped..but on the other side, I couldnt lock it before it warped.
Not kidding..the thing was lightning 
I can lock frigates in my Jag. These nano BS are freaking quick now.
I also saw a Macherial in HED that just mwd'd away from me and the Vaga. It was doing 9km/s on my overview Thats a big bad fast lump of torp spewing ship.
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Sir MilBanacky
Stronghold corp Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.25 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Flesh Eater I highly doubt it was less than a second.
I lock a BS in 0.4 secs...
I was playing with a typhoon at gate..it wouldnt agress, so I asked the gang to jump in from the far gate to make it jump.
It jumped..but on the other side, I couldnt lock it before it warped.
Not kidding..the thing was lightning 
I can lock frigates in my Jag. These nano BS are freaking quick now.
I also saw a Macherial in HED that just mwd'd away from me and the Vaga. It was doing 9km/s on my overview Thats a big bad fast lump of torp spewing ship.
Snake Implants for the WIN!
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.01.25 07:11:00 -
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Hey jack ass es, if he's talking about an intel channel then, chances are, he's some 00 resident that was either defending or fighting another 00 resident.
Prolly no pirating, so reserve whatever carebear motivated bashing of him.
In other news, he prolly just E-warped. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
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Serzath
Labteck Corporation LTD. Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.01.25 07:22:00 -
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This is no E-warp. this is the new flavour of the month. battleships flying faster then interceptors.
for more innfo and official discussion see
Official nano-is discussion
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.25 07:35:00 -
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Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 25/01/2007 07:32:32
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg Hey jack ass es, if he's talking about an intel channel then, chances are, he's some 00 resident that was either defending or fighting another 00 resident.
Prolly no pirating, so reserve whatever carebear motivated bashing of him.
In other news, he prolly just E-warped.
I agree mate, there are some numpties in this thread that dont have a clue about 0.0 life. They just see the word gate, and start shouting omg...some ebil man popped my hauler in low sec coz I was in a hurry and forgot to ask for a scout.
Off topic, but the whole point of a bubble camp in 0.0 is to PREVENT people from coming through. Usually the scout jumps in and dies...then the rest go elsewhere. You think we want roaming gangs flying free and ganking our ratters at will...
On topic...I bet it was not an emergency warp. I have seen the same, and the guy stayed in local giving me the run around from planet to inline safe. It was a Curse Alliance guy in D-G, and props to him for using skill and set up, rather than logging while cloaked ...and to the "idiots" that moan about camping...I was fkin chasing him through systems 
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Cardassius
Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A
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Posted - 2007.01.25 08:27:00 -
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I can fit my BC to warp as fast as an inty ;)
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ArtemisEntreri
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.01.25 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 25/01/2007 01:25:15 He likely has 8 inertia stabilizers in lows.
Counting the effect of mass, an Armageddon with 8 local hull inertial stabilizers should get into warp 11.22 times faster than one without.
If Inertial Stabilizers weren't overpowered and the mass reduction didn't affect agility (and only the agility bonus did), the factor would be a mere 3.05.
The problem with inertial stabilizers in terms of warping speed is that the mass reduction is effectively a second agility bonus.
There's a stacking penalty in iStabs
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Entreri Finwe
Caldari Raptus Regaliter Pride - Honor - Duty
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Posted - 2007.01.25 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Thats just speed hacking. It can be easily done.
Ass-mode
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2007.01.25 11:45:00 -
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Most likely you saw a logoffski (he logged, then auto-warped). No geddon fitting can allow it to warp faster than you can lock if you are in a frigate.
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