What about MTUs?

Also, can we probe down wrecks now please?

I'm glad to see that CCP is focusing on fixing the real issues rather than wasting time on silly things like sov or incentives to fight over it. I quite look forward to seeing my titan wreck getting shot multiple times when I die in lowsec because of the poorly thought out jump range and fatigue changes.

+1 I support this change and other important issues like this one.

"Hehe, wreck popping was one of the few effective ways of interrupting work of large freighter ganker groups in hisec"

Wait a moment, you could single-handedly interrupt the work of a whole group? Glad it gets changed, seems rather op. It's Eve, one should not expect to be effective against a group.

Shouldn't this be proportionnal to average hull hitpoint? like 1/2 the ship's hull
Cause for frigs, the wreck would have more raw hp than the flying ship...

Apparently I did, even though they always claimed they didn't care about it in local. Apparently they cry much more then anti-gankers or freighter pilots since even CSM takes time to focus on the quality of their gameplay. Poor babies, never thought they are so sensitive.

Hey folks. There's a small change that's currently planned for our February release and we'd like to get your feedback.

Up until now, wrecks (other than those belonging to Ship Maintenance Array and X-Large Ship Maintenance Array starbase structures) have all had a uniform 500 hull hitpoints. This makes them very easy to destroy, with no difference between destroying a shuttle wreck and a titan wreck.

We've seen a few requests here and there to tweak this mechanic from players, and recently Endie from the CSM has brought the issue up with us and championed it. We've got a set of changes ready for the February release that should help bring wreck hitpoints into a better state.


The current planned numbers are:

Frigate, Rookie Ship, Shuttle, Small NPC: 700 hp
Destroyer: 1000 hp
Cruiser, Mining Barge, Medium NPC, Generic NPC: 1500 hp
Battlecruiser, Industrial: 2500 hp
Battleship, Large NPC, Officer NPC: 3500 hp
Carrier, Dread, Rorqual, Orca, Freighter: 15000 hp
Supercarrier, NPC Supercarrier: 25000 hp
Titan: 30000 hp

The CSM feedback we've received so far has been positive, and we'd like to hear what you all think.
Thanks!

"Hehe, wreck popping was one of the few effective ways of interrupting work of large freighter ganker groups in hisec"

Wait a moment, you could single-handedly interrupt the work of a whole group? Glad it gets changed, seems rather op. It's Eve, one should not expect to be effective against a group.

I find this unnecessary. For player wrecks, the quick destruction of the wreck can be tactically important because they are warp-in points. Hence why reward slow/worse PVPers by giving them more time. Second, I am against applying this to NPC wrecks too. Some diligent PVErs destroy their wrecks in low/null so as to remain anonymous, which becomes a chore when they have a lot of hitpoints. Hence, there is at least as good an argument for not increasing their HP. I am not sure what the argument for increasing NPC wreck HP would be.

Definitely endorsed.

I would still love to see varying signature radii implemented. For example these values won't change the effect of a torpedo volley on any sub capital wreck. It's the little things.

You mean like afk cloakies?

Currently wrecks have no resists and their hitpoints are entirely hull. This proposal doesn't change either of those things.

You do realize that this is a massive buff to freighter ganking?

When can we expect a fix for risk free looting in highsec via a fleet hangar/freight container/can and a laundering alt in return?

Stupid change

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