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Haidere
Evolution
Northern Coalition.
11
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Posted - 2016.02.02 03:37:24 -
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Definitely a good idea, will cut down on accidentally targeting/destroying wrecks, my 2 isk though, leave wrecks that were the victims of a gank remain very low. |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
889
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Posted - 2016.02.02 03:42:03 -
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You can still shoot wrecks, it's just that now you will have to throw more than 2 mil at it to make sure it dies.
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Dom Arkaral
Gate Is Red
43
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Posted - 2016.02.02 04:02:07 -
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Haidere wrote:Definitely a good idea, will cut down on accidentally targeting/destroying wrecks, my 2 isk though, leave wrecks that were the victims of a gank remain very low.
A gank is a kill, the game doesn't care if it was a suicide gank or not. A kill is a kill.
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker
I have no Honer (truly)
Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche!
Ich bin krank! (I don't speak German don't bother)
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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
552
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Posted - 2016.02.02 05:54:11 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Frigate, Rookie Ship, Shuttle, Small NPC: 700 hp
Destroyer: 1000 hp
Cruiser, Mining Barge, Medium NPC, Generic NPC: 1500 hp
Battlecruiser, Industrial: 2500 hp
Battleship, Large NPC, Officer NPC: 3500 hp
Carrier, Dread, Rorqual, Orca, Freighter: 15000 hp
Supercarrier, NPC Supercarrier: 25000 hp
Titan: 30000 hp
The CSM feedback we've received so far has been positive, and we'd like to hear what you all think.
My only concern is whether I'll be able to tell these wreck categories apart? Do they get different names? Different icons? Do they get different signature radii? |
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Legion
17244
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Posted - 2016.02.02 05:59:06 -
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Salpad wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Frigate, Rookie Ship, Shuttle, Small NPC: 700 hp
Destroyer: 1000 hp
Cruiser, Mining Barge, Medium NPC, Generic NPC: 1500 hp
Battlecruiser, Industrial: 2500 hp
Battleship, Large NPC, Officer NPC: 3500 hp
Carrier, Dread, Rorqual, Orca, Freighter: 15000 hp
Supercarrier, NPC Supercarrier: 25000 hp
Titan: 30000 hp
The CSM feedback we've received so far has been positive, and we'd like to hear what you all think. My only concern is whether I'll be able to tell these wreck categories apart? Do they get different names? Different icons? Do they get different signature radii?
They currently have different names.
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Nelly Galbatha
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2016.02.02 06:13:57 -
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Can you give giant freight container's for hit points also? |
Mistique Jasson
Platinum Octopus
Infernal Octopus
0
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Posted - 2016.02.02 07:58:16 -
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This will make salvage the wrecks harder? |
Molly Duma
F0RCED ENTRY
8
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Posted - 2016.02.02 08:44:13 -
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Maybe hit the Titan wreck with 50 000 hitpoints?
EvE Offline Server Status
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Daksa Crendraven
Imperial Guardians
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6
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Posted - 2016.02.02 08:50:26 -
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Well... Thanks for the loot then! :) |
Rhamnousia Nosferatu
Bunnyhopping days
231
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Posted - 2016.02.02 08:51:50 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:You can still shoot wrecks, it's just that now you will have to throw more than 2 mil at it to make sure it dies.
So, now it's somehow about value of the ship performing the gank? |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
2104
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Posted - 2016.02.02 09:14:09 -
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+1 good change, about time this exploit got fixed.
This is completely unrelated: but I just want to thank our goonswarm overlords for making all this possible.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Vulfen
Snuff Box
Snuffed Out
182
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Posted - 2016.02.02 09:40:53 -
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With wrecks now having more hp, would smart bombs now affect them?, currently i dont below wrecks are damaged by smart bomb damage. |
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Legion
17244
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Posted - 2016.02.02 09:45:31 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:+1 good change, about time this exploit got fixed.
This is completely unrelated: but I just want to thank our goonswarm overlords for making all this possible.
Twas PL
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Lugh Crow-Slave
1497
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Posted - 2016.02.02 10:36:43 -
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Can we get them probable while you are at it?
Citadel worm hole tax
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
4288
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Posted - 2016.02.02 11:09:03 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Can we get them probable while you are at it? Would be nice, certainly the scavanger mini-profession would have a surge.
Would be a newbie-friendly activity by the way, getting more people into low/null/wh, creating PVP situations, etc.
Honestly can't see any downside, except possibly a slight increase of supply for salvage, mods and other stuff that drops, but that doesn't seem a bad effect.
Make space glamorous!
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Kestielh Mechielv
Teutate raiders
DARKNESS.
0
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Posted - 2016.02.02 14:27:16 -
[136] - Quote
We all know who's going to get bennefit from this change. Don't even need to call them ;) |
Aker Krane
OMEGADYNE LABS
Rising Darkness
24
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Posted - 2016.02.02 16:14:08 -
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Generally speaking, anything that reduces the the amount of destruction/consumption is a bad idea.
Will you be reducing the amount of loot that actually survives the destruction of the hull accordingly? |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
2258
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Posted - 2016.02.02 18:43:51 -
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I do not care what happens with freighter tanking or High Sec space in general. I'm just excited at the prospect of having trivially longer to warp to a wreck and it being marginally harder to destroy a capital ship wreck to deny the winner a chance at the loot.
I remain firmly opposed to being able to scan down wrecks. That breaks way more than it fixes for 0.0 escalations, missions, and etc.
CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
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Sizeof Void
Ninja Suicide Squadron
626
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Posted - 2016.02.02 19:32:16 -
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An odd change... I'd have argued to make wrecks easier to kill and also to shorten the amount of time they last in space. The servers have to keep track of all of this space junk, so making wrecks go away faster helps to reduce the server load.
Also, how about fixing the issue where wrecks cannot be salvaged because they contain too much loot , and/or something too big, to fit within a drop can? |
death minner
River-Rats in space
The Ditanian Alliance
0
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Posted - 2016.02.02 19:55:20 -
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Sizeof Void wrote:An odd change... I'd have argued to make wrecks easier to kill and also to shorten the amount of time they last in space. The servers have to keep track of all of this space junk, so making wrecks go away faster helps to reduce the server load.
Also, how about fixing the issue where wrecks cannot be salvaged because they contain too much loot , and/or something too big, to fit within a drop can?
That is not an issue in the sense that it was some unforeseen side effect of a new mechanic or something, in fact that was an intentional change as i stated in a previous post.
o/
DM. |
Sgt Ocker
Kenshin.
DARKNESS.
806
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Posted - 2016.02.02 22:21:39 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey folks. There's a small change that's currently planned for our February release and we'd like to get your feedback.
Up until now, wrecks (other than those belonging to Ship Maintenance Array and X-Large Ship Maintenance Array starbase structures) have all had a uniform 500 hull hitpoints. This makes them very easy to destroy, with no difference between destroying a shuttle wreck and a titan wreck.
We've seen a few requests here and there to tweak this mechanic from players, and recently Endie from the CSM has brought the issue up with us and championed it. We've got a set of changes ready for the February release that should help bring wreck hitpoints into a better state.
The current planned numbers are:
Frigate, Rookie Ship, Shuttle, Small NPC: 700 hp
Destroyer: 1000 hp
Cruiser, Mining Barge, Medium NPC, Generic NPC: 1500 hp
Battlecruiser, Industrial: 2500 hp
Battleship, Large NPC, Officer NPC: 3500 hp
Carrier, Dread, Rorqual, Orca, Freighter: 15000 hp
Supercarrier, NPC Supercarrier: 25000 hp
Titan: 30000 hp
The CSM feedback we've received so far has been positive, and we'd like to hear what you all think.
Thanks!
So now shooting wrecks will actually take some effort and involve some risk - Will they generate killmails?
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bigbud skunkafella
Not The Usual Suspects
3
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Posted - 2016.02.02 23:06:15 -
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now that gankers , whether intentionally or as a purely coincidental consequence  of this rebalance have received a huge buff in effectively guaranteed freighter wreck looting in hisec, is it too much to ask that shooting a wreck in hisec becomes a suspect level offense rather than crimal /concordden? 
seriously.
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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Legion
17245
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Posted - 2016.02.02 23:33:05 -
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bigbud skunkafella wrote:now that gankers , whether intentionally or as a purely coincidental consequence of this rebalance have received a huge buff in effectively guaranteed freighter wreck looting in hisec, is it too much to ask that shooting a wreck in hisec becomes a suspect level offense rather than crimal /concordden? seriously.
Looong way to go before ganking is buffed enough to warrant a buff to anti ganking.
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Pulttl
Off-By-One Errors
4
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Posted - 2016.02.03 01:52:51 -
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bigbud skunkafella wrote:now that gankers , whether intentionally or as a purely coincidental consequence of this rebalance have received a huge buff in effectively guaranteed freighter wreck looting in hisec, is it too much to ask that shooting a wreck in hisec becomes a suspect level offense rather than crimal /concordden? seriously.
It sounds like a logical change. Looting someone else's wreck/can and shooting it are equivalent in that both take away its content from the original owner or legitimate looters. Previously with low hitpoints for a wreck, a criminal flag was useful in discouraging shooting wrecks (to some degree), and now, it is an unnecessary device that turns possible PVP opportunities (suspect fights in hisec) into PVE (being CONCORDed) for no greater goal. Giving a suspect flag definitely affects jet can mining if regular jet cans would receive this change as well, but it can create additional content in hisec, like protecting miner friends' can in PVP-ready ships.
Mobile Scan Inhibitors and Mobile Micro Jump Units used to cause a killright to be granted (w/o a criminal flag though), but they simply give a suspect flag like other deployables since the December patch. The similar consideration can be possibly done in toning down the consequence of attacking wrecks/cans.
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GetSirrus
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
102
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Posted - 2016.02.03 03:06:12 -
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Can flip the most value items, kill low-hp jetcan. The wreck HP is irrelevant.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
2111
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Posted - 2016.02.03 06:32:00 -
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bigbud skunkafella wrote:now that gankers , whether intentionally or as a purely coincidental consequence of this rebalance have received a huge buff in effectively guaranteed freighter wreck looting in hisec, is it too much to ask that shooting a wreck in hisec becomes a suspect level offense rather than crimal /concordden? seriously. +1 Awesome idea, will not tell you why. I love how 1 dimensional AG thinks
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Danmal
Proioxis Assault Force
39
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Posted - 2016.02.03 07:36:51 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:+1 good change, about time this exploit got fixed.
This is completely unrelated: but I just want to thank our goonswarm overlords for making all this possible.
Dear CCP,
you know you are on the wrong path when CODE. calls a change long overdue.
tyvm |
Sjugar02
Antwerpse Kerels
RAZOR Alliance
12
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Posted - 2016.02.03 09:11:10 -
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I don't think anyone can honestly disagree with this change. People should have a good chance to get loot after killing something. Killing big things is content and we should always strive to reward players that create content. People can still shoot wrecks but they'll have to put in some effort and there is less chance that anyone fatfingers the wreck.
Wrecks will also have a slightly better chance to survive and act as a warpin. I know a lot of kitting gangs like to shoot wrecks that are close to them. Now the wrecks should survive a couple seconds longer and give people some chance to get tackle.
+1 all around |
Borat Guereen
Chao3
Chao3 Alliance
45
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Posted - 2016.02.03 18:01:12 -
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"Sion Kumitomo said on Twitter
The original idea was Warr Akini's, and both then Goonswarm CSM reps pushed it. Other CSM's supported it as well."
Not surprising, again showing the influence of the goon/CODE bloc on the game to benefit their game play and income before everyone else.
Even if increasing the HP of wrecks based on sizes makes sense logically, why not make other "logical" changes like adding damages to bumping, or removing bumping from the game altogether. Of course, goons/CODE only want to think logically when it benefits them.
I would have strongly opposed this change. I am running for CMS XI and for all of you on this thread that see this change as they are, vote to get rid of the goons/CODE influence on the CSM XI. Put me on top of your ballot vote, and consider my endorsement post when making your choices for CSM XI, and go vote!
Candidate for CSM XI
Speaker of Chao3
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Dom Arkaral
Gate Is Red
46
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Posted - 2016.02.03 18:05:20 -
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[quote=Borat Guereen
Even if increasing the HP of wrecks based on sizes makes sense logically, why not make other "logical" changes like adding damages to bumping, or removing bumping from the game altogether. Of course, goons/CODE only want to think logically when it benefits them.
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Bumping isn't only being used by CODE. or GSF in HS..
you're one of these "one more nurf or i quits" kind of person eh?
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker
I have no Honer (truly)
Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche!
Ich bin krank! (I don't speak German don't bother)
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