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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.15 13:39:00 -
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In the final Crucible-related chronicle, CCP Dropbear presents to us a man who is fascinated by information, and busy with parsing new data on strange and mysterious sites, when suddenly he receives an unexpected offer.
You can read the chronicle here.
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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Galega Ori
Perturbed Institution
2
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:06:00 -
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First
Now to enjoy the chronicle  |

DJB16
Phantom Squad Nulli Secunda
2
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:12:00 -
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second interesting read |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
1208
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:14:00 -
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\o/
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Amseln deBrabant
Ochsenbruegger
1
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:31:00 -
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what is the Vitrauze Agreement and why on earth is a Caldari Corporate Scumbag under the mask of a Federate Senator leaking such information |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:40:00 -
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Great. |

Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:41:00 -
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Amseln deBrabant wrote:what is the Vitrauze Agreement and why on earth is a Caldari Corporate Scumbag under the mask of a Federate Senator leaking such information
You can read the chronicle about the Vitrauze Agreement here.
Loved it; it sounds like those of us involved with the Arek'Jaalan project are about to have some new developments (pun intended) tossed our way.
Also, was that a slight jab at a few of your more always-online participants (*cough*likeme*cough*) that I detected?  |

Aerwyn Sun
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:01:00 -
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This is clearly the best of the Crucible related chronicles, but I still think that the old-style chronicles were far better. They added an additional element of immersion, while the new chronicles are little more than embellished patch notes. And that's about as interesting as the description of a toy pitched at some 8-year-old. I get that the new chronicles should relate to current events in the game, but the old chronicles did a better job at that. |

Nalda Selene
The Red Circle Inc.
3
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:10:00 -
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Aerwyn Sun wrote:This is clearly the best of the Crucible related chronicles, but I still think that the old-style chronicles were far better. They added an additional element of immersion, while the new chronicles are little more than embellished patch notes. And that's about as interesting as the description of a toy pitched at some 8-year-old. I get that the new chronicles should relate to current events in the game, but the old chronicles did a better job at that.
Of the three Crucible ones that I now recall reading, this one and the Customs Office ones grabbed my interest. The first, simply from the immersion standpoint of "What the other side thinks", and how the often minimal-to-no-rules attitude we capsuleers have can be viewed from the outside.
This one, and now the Arek'Jaalan project in general, have grabbed my interest as a wormhole resident, simply from seeing all of the stuff mentioned every day.
I more agree with your take when applied to the second one. It did feel more like an advertisement brochure than anything else.
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Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
60
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:20:00 -
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Did someone say there was a fortune to be made? |
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival Naraka.
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:30:00 -
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I'm loving this project to bits. It's giving players a chance to be part of and shape the backstory, without the mistakes made in the past. Having a blast playing my part in it. Plus, we all get to do science. Yay for science! Lovely to see a chron on this. Dropbear knows how to keep up on the edges of our seats in anticipation of what is next. CEO of Ghost Festival :: Co-Executor of Naraka. Blog: Diary of a Pod Pilot |

Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
70
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:47:00 -
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More I say. MORE!
<3 Dropbear. |

Aerwyn Sun
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:04:00 -
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See, I love the idea of chronicles and very much enjoyed most of the older ones. This is why I'm complaining. And yes, I would very much like to learn more about wormholes, sleepers or even the mechanics of Invention. For instance, I would love to know why I have to invent a Tech II blueprint more then once. In a nutshell I would love to know what I don't know already after reading the patch notes. That's all. |

Shalee Lianne
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:29:00 -
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I think it was great. http://amarrian.blogspot.com/ -á~ Roleplay blog.http://sovereigntywars.wordpress.com/ ~ Faction War blog. |

Rhavas
The Corporation of Noble Sentiments
30
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:50:00 -
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Glad to see some Dropbear and AJ dirt at last.
It may not make sense at first.
For those of you who haven't been beating your head on this for 2 years, this is the first ANSWER I'm aware of Dropbear ever handing out on a platter. It answers specifically the use of the sequestered components from the Vitrauze Agreement - at least least in part. It opens the first truly new line of inquiry in months, and the first truly concrete one in more than a year.
It may just feel like a patch note, but this is worthy of some real investigation for the first time in a long while.
I expect Dropbear buried some further puzzles in the new data as well. |

Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
42
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:53:00 -
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"material identified during the Vitrauze Agreement as practically worthless" So "junk" wormhole stuff is about to become valuable for manufacturing new Tech II modules?
"new Tech II modules and capsule upgrades" Capsule upgrades? Interesting... I see something like this in the future: Capsule Upgrades (4x) 10% increase in Capsule shield, armor, and structure hit points per level 10% decrease in Capsule align time per level 5% increase in Capsule maximum velocity per level 5% decrease in Capsule signature radius per level
Or maybe just a Tech II capsule with some of the above? Please support: export of settings in editable format
Your stuff goes here. |

Myyona
Ataraxia Pharmacies
10
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:55:00 -
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Enjoyed it.
But... careful with this OOC knowledge that we cannot translate into IC (the mysterious senator did say: "This information was so well protected that for all we know there are less than ten people in the entire cluster who are aware of it.") Unless, of course, Dr. Tukoss plans to reveal it to the world. CEO - Ataraxia Pharmacies Biography |

Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E. The Lostboys
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:17:00 -
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I wondered what the empires were doing with the sleeper "blue loot". Now we know: Figuring out the new T2 stuff we got with crucible. Looks like we may be getting something about Pods too.
This chronicle seems to be set at a time just before Dr Tukoss announced the Site One project to us, a couple of months ago.
BTW if you go to Site One you can pick up the abstracts I wrote. Yay! In game items with my name on them! |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
243
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:29:00 -
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Interesting chronicle waiting for MORE. 
Gaia Ma'chello wrote:...BTW if you go to Site One you can pick up the abstracts I wrote. Yay! In game items with my name on them! There is one with my name to  |

Kyoko Sakoda
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:57:00 -
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I think we can put our differences behind us. For science. You monster. |
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Kaito Haakkainen
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Posted - 2011.12.15 18:33:00 -
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Enjoyed the chronicle, but I was under the impression that the goal was to make more of the OOC data available IC, not to add more OOC data we cannot use. |

River Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
0
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Posted - 2011.12.15 18:49:00 -
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lated chronicleAerwyn Sun wrote:... I still think that the old-style chronicles were far better. They added an additional element of immersion, while the new chronicles are little more than embellished patch notes. .. I get that the new chronicles should relate to current events in the game, but the old chronicles did a better job at that.
I'm afraid I have to disagree. The previous era of Chronicles are different by authorship and style by necessity. If you do your homework you will understand the staggering weight of history each new chronicle has to support. Most capualeers go about their selfish business blithely unaware of how profoundly their (to them routine) actions are effecting the world around them.
It is a trick of the mind, the chronicals only report a facet of the immersion you are already drowning in. |

Xtover
Macabre Votum Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:10:00 -
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I think it's great CCP is doing Chronicles, but I must say it really irks me that the newer ones have boiled down to advertisements.
The first one since Crucible was for POCOs, this one for the new T2 modules.... It's like instead of creating a background for the game you're using it to advertise the expansion.
Shame. |

Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:21:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Interesting chronicle waiting for MORE.  Gaia Ma'chello wrote:...BTW if you go to Site One you can pick up the abstracts I wrote. Yay! In game items with my name on them! There is one with my name to  Morwen you happy now
Of course. All I need now is for the localization stuff is patched so my name is spelled correctly on the contributor listing item ingame.  |

Nur AlHuda
Callide Vulpis Curatores Veritatis Alliance
3
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:10:00 -
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Yeah i have to say sadly i dont like that is just about patch stuff or about player driven content. Eve is so vast and most of things never got explained or even hinted. At least the stories provided in the past some entertainment and dark humour and pulled players into eve deeper in terms of feeling. |

Matariki Rain
Lutinari Syndicate Electus Matari
1
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:40:00 -
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Quote:[...] the conversations of a hundred people all tracked in a digital language he understood more intuitively than his native Vherokior. Pleased to have confirmation of a tribal language. Would love to know more about the language ecology of the Republic. |

Solo Player
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Posted - 2011.12.15 22:28:00 -
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Aerwyn Sun wrote:I still think that the old-style chronicles were far better. They added an additional element of immersion, while the new chronicles are little more than embellished patch notes. And that's about as interesting as the description of a toy pitched at some 8-year-old. I get that the new chronicles should relate to current events in the game, but the old chronicles did a better job at that.
I agree completely. Chronicles in the past had pitched some characters in some corner of New Eden and went on to tell a story with them, extending the lore a bit here and a little there. They weren't there to explain some current game design issues, but to immerse players and present EVE from a different angle, to expand the game's world and - maybe most importantly - to provide inspiration for future game design changes.
In short: I'm afraid you're doing this the wrong way around.
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Frawlyne
Clan Ice Raven Sons of Odin.
0
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Posted - 2011.12.16 00:58:00 -
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I enjoyed this little blurb. I'm especially interested in a t3 pod. It would be nice to see a pod upgrade to protect those extra valuable implants that some of us spend billions of isk on. Something hard to make but provides pods with the equivilant of a tech 2 warp stab. More t2 mods are nice and if the Scientists need any help my rates are reasonable.
Frawlyne |

DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
579
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Posted - 2011.12.16 04:39:00 -
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Is the Chronicle set in the past, so we'd have these T2 modules already? Or is it in the present, hinting at modules to come? |

TsurugiSan
Black Line Inc. Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
0
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Posted - 2011.12.16 06:02:00 -
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umm... i'm fairly new to the Chronicle scene... but I think you're forgetting where Hilen Tukoss was previously employed and what he did as Program Director of the Otosela Neuropsychology Center... His name has been about as big as the the billboards at the jump gates can make it! But think about the keyword: Neuropsychology. wrap that up in a warm pod-pita, throw some Tech 2 cuccumber sauce, and you've got a shiny new implant gyro.... (sorry - it's late and i'm starving)
I don't think this is just advertising for what we already know is out there. I've followed Dropbears work on the deepspace Sleeper story for a bit, and he's very good at giving you enough reeses candies to keep you walking on the trail. I think there's something very fun coming up for the goo-riders INSIDE the pod. which would make those new implant-inclusive killmails so much more interesting.... just sayin'... |
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Borascus
Hole Diggers
0
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Posted - 2011.12.16 08:22:00 -
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CCP Dropbear is a master of subterfuge :P
Exciting Chronicle! |

Jerry Rin
Most Wanted INC White Noise.
0
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Posted - 2011.12.16 08:51:00 -
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You fools should write stories about me, the greatest eve player ever. My eve-biography owns whatever useless crap story you could ever tell. If you ever want to learn how to write while acquiring decent subject matter, drop me a line. |

Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
346
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Posted - 2011.12.16 10:56:00 -
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While I don't really understand half what is going on in the chronicle I do understand that some nice stuff and things are happining for those who have invested time and effort into this storyline. Having kept minimally abreast of the situation from a distance I get the drift though.
I applaud this and the writing style of CCP Dropbear, I do however would suggest that from now on the chronicles have a better layout, this kind of non text formatting is (for me at least).
Carry on. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
100
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Posted - 2011.12.16 11:11:00 -
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Chronicles are awesome. I read them all with delight !  FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! |

Mia Restolo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.16 15:03:00 -
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Tie this in with the descriptions on the new implants and it does hint at the future possibility of player made implants. Maybe the next expansion will be named Cyberious... since Cyberia is already taken. |

Rhavas
The Corporation of Noble Sentiments
30
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Posted - 2011.12.16 19:22:00 -
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TsurugiSan wrote:umm... i'm fairly new to the Chronicle scene... but I think you're forgetting where Hilen Tukoss was previously employed and what he did as Program Director of the Otosela Neuropsychology Center... His name has been about as big as the the billboards at the jump gates can make it! But think about the keyword: Neuropsychology. wrap that up in a warm pod-pita, throw some Tech 2 cuccumber sauce, and you've got a shiny new implant gyro.... (sorry - it's late and i'm starving)
I don't think this is just advertising for what we already know is out there. I've followed Dropbears work on the deepspace Sleeper story for a bit, and he's very good at giving you enough reeses candies to keep you walking on the trail. I think there's something very fun coming up for the goo-riders INSIDE the pod. which would make those new implant-inclusive killmails so much more interesting.... just sayin'...
I think you have the right idea. Let's not forget Dropbear's last commentary about pod goo.
I love the smell of C3-FTM in the morning. |

Irumani
Cuir Moustache Club
4
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Posted - 2011.12.16 22:40:00 -
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Could we please, pretty please, have the title of the chronicle in the html < title > tag of its page ? I'm using Readability to send the new Chronicles to my Kindle, so I can read them on my way to work, and the absence of the title in a proper way on the chronicle page is making it needlessly painful.
TIA! |

Helen Ohmiras
Synthetic Horizons
0
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Posted - 2011.12.17 06:46:00 -
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Kaito Haakkainen wrote:Enjoyed the chronicle, but I was under the impression that the goal was to make more of the OOC data available IC, not to add more OOC data we cannot use. It's not OOC knowledge. Not really. It's things that people have already guessed at. The problem is, it's OOC confirmation of IC theories that cannot be proven IC. Anything brought up from this point forward is tainted by this chronicle. Looking at a lot of the Arek'jaalan project, I can honestly say there's quite a bit of it that is tainted by the OOC knowledge presented in chronicles. Not normally something I am opposed to, but this chronicle was kind of a kick in the teeth to some ideas I was moving forward with.
As I've told Dropbear before, I'm fine with meta knowledge staying meta. The problem is when it's blurred to the point that it makes the IC advances completely moot. It's a whole circular logic thing that kind of defeats the whole purpose, in my opinion, of trying to even attempt the Arek'jaalan project in-game.
That's my take though. As I had already made tentative steps to prove the exact things brought up in this recent chronicle literally days before it was posted... well, guess it's back to watching from afar. 
Give us something to interact with, and I'll be happy. Site One is nice, but it's not dynamic. Add to that another chronicle that pretty much says, "We're playing in this side of the sandbox and you guys play in that side," pretty much makes me want to walk.
That's my view on things though. Since I'm pretty much only in the game for the Arek'jaalan stuff at this point, it feels like a big sucker punch to the gut. I'll live though, and I still love you guys! I just might be a bit (more) scarce from now on. |

Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
162
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Posted - 2011.12.17 12:01:00 -
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If you can come up with in game indications or clues that hint towards the OOC knowledge we have gained from this chronicle then more power to you, Helen. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |

Ollie Rundle
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
0
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Posted - 2011.12.17 14:12:00 -
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Quote:GÇ£Yes, that is certainly the reputation you cultivate. Anyhow, the specifics are this: Acting under the pretense of an arms race, the empires are about to release a number of new Tech II modules and capsule upgrades. The technology behind these developments is Sleeper in origin, and most of it was developed from material identified during the Vitrauze Agreement as practically worthless. If the origin of these modules and improvements were ever to become public knowledge, this agreement would need to be rewritten, something everyone would rather avoid.GÇ¥
GÇ£Most interesting, Senator. Thank you for sharing this. I think I see how we can factor in here, too. Perhaps though, before going any further, now would be a good time to exchange the data and verify everything. If you can do that, and everything checks out, then I can promise you we will start pushing on the first site immediately.GÇ¥
Beyond all the chronicle-background on upcoming Crucible features being introduced ...
Did anyone else read the passages in the quote above and go, "Hang on, WTF?". To me that seems to be saying that in order to cover up the 'pretense' of an arms race between empires, the signatories to the Vitrauze agreement intend to use the Arek'Jalaan project as the figureheads for the Sleeper origin tech that will be introduced in coming months. In return, Arek'Jalaan gets ... tacit empire support? Intel on groups intending to cause it harm? What else?
Or am I completely off the mark with this? |
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Kaisek
The Dude's Interstellar Enterprizes Quixotic Hegemony
0
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Posted - 2011.12.17 14:57:00 -
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Another well written Chronicle CCP Dropbear 
One can take good stories for granted; but when you dichotomize it , you then spot all those little details that make up the most descriptive tales.
+1 |

HoshinoRuri
Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo
0
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Posted - 2011.12.18 04:55:00 -
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I have bugs on most of the major communications hubs, get a good bit of intel from unsuspecting people. /* Decent way of introducing ooc content when it is introduced in a chronicle, especially considering all the cpu power in a ship, you may not be able to do real time cracking but if you had the data log of the convo you could easily get the info, notice this took a couple weeks after things which were introduced. This is entirely plausible from a data analysis perspective into using a brute force decryption technique. /* Love the chronicle and as someone that does some RP in game they add more to it, haven't had as much time recently as I liked to. But with a game as big as eve there are several methods to RP and gain the information one needs or to even speculate it, passing notes to the gm and getting a response in table top gaming is sorta like using the books or chronicles in game. ^^ |

Helen Ohmiras
Synthetic Horizons
0
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Posted - 2011.12.18 20:08:00 -
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Ollie Rundle wrote:Did anyone else read the passages in the quote above and go, "Hang on, WTF?". To me that seems to be saying that in order to cover up the 'pretense' of an arms race between empires, the signatories to the Vitrauze agreement intend to use the Arek'Jalaan project as the figureheads for the Sleeper origin tech that will be introduced in coming months. In return, Arek'Jalaan gets ... tacit empire support? Intel on groups intending to cause it harm? What else?
Or am I completely off the mark with this? Simply put, the Empires are getting around CONCORD restrictions by blatantly exploiting Capsuleer greed. This Gallente Senator is trying to pull a fast one on Tukoss by offering an "inside scoop" on impending changes (both good and bad) for an undisclosed "favor" in return. It's not that hard to determine from the context, however.
In short, the Senator is saying, "We want you guys to be the front for Sleeper innovations in return for help in clearing up red tape so you can build infrastructure. Also, keep any unwanted attention from us, will ya'? It's in all our best interests."
The only reason the Senator is even offering the deal is because the Arek'jaalan project is asking questions it shouldn't. Meaning, if certain pieces of evidence were ever assembled, the Empires would lose their little game of cloak and dagger and perhaps face repercussions from CONCORD/Jove/whoever else was left out of the secret. Though considering the source, I would perhaps suggest that the Gallente and Amarr might get the worst of it. 
Also, just going to throw this out there, "DUST 514". Because honestly, if you look at all the evidence, there's only one potential source for such a logical leap in technology (at least in the EVE universe...). |

Ollie Rundle
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
0
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Posted - 2011.12.18 23:28:00 -
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Helen Ohmiras wrote:In short, the Senator is saying, "We want you guys to be the front for Sleeper innovations in return for help in clearing up red tape so you can build infrastructure. Also, keep any unwanted attention from us, will ya'? It's in all our best interests."
Yeah, that's exactly what I thought. The interesting part to me, though, was the idea that the empires are "acting under the pretense of an arms race", implying that all the military buildup - both faction war/militias and otherwise - is a facade agreed upon by someone or a group running overwatch (CONCORD? SCT/Jove? Whoever helped open up Anoikis?) on all four empires. Whether the empires actually realise it's a pretense or not is debatable.
Then again, Dropbear does tend to throw little 'possible' hints in to his writing and sometimes I think they're just there to inspire whatever conspiracy theories we tend towards.  |

Helen Ohmiras
Synthetic Horizons
0
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Posted - 2011.12.19 09:00:00 -
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An arms race is different than a war. Read "Particle Tracks" again. Specifically:
Quote:"I invite you to consider the design history of the Talos" Seriously, it's really interesting! Though of course, this all pales in comparison to the fact that Hilen Tukoss has been a naughty boy and has not been fully up front with his "oblivious" Capsuleer research compatriots.

EDIT:
To CCP Dropbear:
Well played, and you do of course know this means war!  |

Rhavas
The Corporation of Noble Sentiments
30
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Posted - 2011.12.19 23:06:00 -
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Helen Ohmiras wrote:An arms race is different than a war. Read " Particle Tracks" again. Specifically: Quote:"I invite you to consider the design history of the Talos" Seriously, it's really interesting! Though of course, this all pales in comparison to the fact that Hilen Tukoss has been a naughty boy and has not been fully up front with his "oblivious" Capsuleer research compatriots. Let no one be confused - Tukoss is not running a charity, appearances or no. There have been a number of opportunities for Tukoss to bring OOC information into the IC realm and he has chosen not to do so. A particularly obvious example of this is his relationship with Lianda Burreau, which he has been silent about. This suggests that his silence is IC (Psst: He's lying to you).
Meanwhile, here is "the design history of the Talos", from the ship Info property box:
Quote:The Talos began in YC 110 as a R&D concept by ORE. Conceived as a patrol craft for mining operations in lawless space, the Talos would have been abandoned completely were it not adopted by the Black Eagles, a black-ops branch of the Gallente government. The Black Eagles stripped the Talos of non-essential systems and bolted on battleship-class weapons, creating a quick-strike craft ideal for guerilla action.
The Talos remained a military secret until YC 113, when it was introduced into wider circulation as a third tier battlecruiser. Today the Talos is manufactured by Duvolle Labs, who modified the original ORE designs to bring it in line with Gallente standards. |
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