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Firvain
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Posted - 2016.02.10 19:26:00 -
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Richard Bong wrote:Querns wrote:Thanks for the reply.
Another question: adding 400 stront to the build reqs of fuel blocks increases the m^3 required to build fuel blocks considerably. Is this intended? I'd argue to lower the m^3 of stront, but that has knock-on effects with regards to siege, triage, and titans. Are there any metrics on how much stront gets used in a given time period due to POS reinforcement, across all of Eve? Considerably is kind of an understatement. "stront is 3m3 per unit. so, if you're doing 20k runs(not at all unreasonable), that's 24 million m3 in cargo just for the stront" that is 24 fully expanded freighters. Even cutting that number in half is way too much, cutting it down to just 40 is still 2.4 million m3. This isn't including the cost for 20k runs with 400 stront which is now an extra 6.4b isk at current prices. I really hope you take a look at the stront requirements again.
Looking at 50 freighter trips for my weekly fuel needs for just the stront. gosh how excited I am about that |
Firvain
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Posted - 2016.02.10 19:56:37 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Firvain wrote:Richard Bong wrote:Querns wrote:Thanks for the reply.
Another question: adding 400 stront to the build reqs of fuel blocks increases the m^3 required to build fuel blocks considerably. Is this intended? I'd argue to lower the m^3 of stront, but that has knock-on effects with regards to siege, triage, and titans. Are there any metrics on how much stront gets used in a given time period due to POS reinforcement, across all of Eve? Considerably is kind of an understatement. "stront is 3m3 per unit. so, if you're doing 20k runs(not at all unreasonable), that's 24 million m3 in cargo just for the stront" that is 24 fully expanded freighters. Even cutting that number in half is way too much, cutting it down to just 40 is still 2.4 million m3. This isn't including the cost for 20k runs with 400 stront which is now an extra 6.4b isk at current prices. I really hope you take a look at the stront requirements again. Looking at 50 freighter trips for my weekly fuel needs for just the stront. gosh how excited I am about that Resurrection of the convoys. You should rejoice.
I already have 10 freighters, that is quite enough tbh. Got other more important **** to move lol |
Firvain
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Posted - 2016.02.11 12:40:26 -
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Sisi Collins wrote:Sorry, may be I'm not right, but cost and % for refine rigs seems for me ridiculous
From Dev blog - Building your Citadel, one block at a time
X-large Reprocessing Efficiency I - roughly costs 2,268 bil - 59% refine
X-large Reprocessing Efficiency II - roughly costs 22,989 bil - 60% refine
Are you insane guys????
Who the hell in his mind will pay for t2 rig at such price if it gives just 1% more than t1???
If you refined 1 trillion isk in a montly basis that 1% adds up pretty darn fast |
Firvain
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Posted - 2016.02.11 15:50:55 -
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Yasuo Aldent wrote: all you get is a km!
you mean a 150+ bill killmail. yeah thast not worth anything right right.. thats why all them people hunt those supercapitals for hours just for a killmail |
Firvain
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Posted - 2016.02.12 16:23:14 -
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50% reduction in stront is a good start, but that still leaves a massive deficit of strontium. I hav ebeen buying ICE locally and from jita for 2 months to supply me with all the required LO/HW and isotopes(well mostly, still need to import some raw every now and then) but with all the stront acquired I still only have enough for 1 week worth of construction. But I still have enough LO/HW to last me a month. So something is wrong here.
And praying that the old ice miners from yeh will drop their existant strontium supply on market seems to be a bit odd |
Firvain
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Posted - 2016.02.12 17:59:49 -
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Fredric Wolf wrote:Firvain wrote:50% reduction in stront is a good start, but that still leaves a massive deficit of strontium. I hav ebeen buying ICE locally and from jita for 2 months to supply me with all the required LO/HW and isotopes(well mostly, still need to import some raw every now and then) but with all the stront acquired I still only have enough for 1 week worth of construction. But I still have enough LO/HW to last me a month. So something is wrong here.
And praying that the old ice miners from yeh will drop their existant strontium supply on market seems to be a bit odd Do you think this is more a supply demand issue as up until now mining for stront was not all that profitable up until now?
you cant mine for just stront, you always get the other stuff too. So with just pure mining you always either have never enough stront or you are drowning in LO and HW.
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Firvain
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Posted - 2016.02.13 14:07:41 -
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So how is one susposed to aquire enough strontium to make blocks.
krystallos gives the most stront at 145 after refine. Okay nice but it also gives 580 LO. While i Only need 160 LO vs 200 stront.
So to import enough strontium I will have to overbuy LO by 4 times I need. And then we didnt even started getting Heavy Water or the Isotopes which will also come with their own supply of LO. So its more like you will end up with like 6 to 8 times teh amount of LO required.
And importing raw strontium from jita isnt really feasable either, because A there isnt alot in there, and B its still big as **** |
Firvain
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Posted - 2016.02.16 17:58:27 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:
Hope that helps!
Yes yes this does help nicely. As for me who has to construct over 2 million fuel blocks a week this change will mean I can still keep doing this after the change |
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