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The Pointless Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:16:00 - [1] I get some stupid questions. Very stupid questions. Yesterday 2 corps went to war in Atlanins (as you do) and, as I'd overheard a few things in Bille about it the other day, I thought I'd have a look at what was left. Annoyingly a corpie salved everything, so I only had his word to go on when he said there were shedloads on one corp's ships and only one of the other corp's shuttles. So I jumped back to Bille, knowing one of the corps tends to mine there a lot. And spotting some of them, I asked "who won?". After a bit of conversation (if you can call it that), one of that corp then said "just leaves the question whos alt are u". Great. Because I'm still in FNA (my choice) I'm an alt in the eyes of everyone. Can't peeps actually ask if I'm a main before assuming that I'm someone's alt? Does anyone have any idea how ANNOYING it is to be considered an alt? (Yeah, I see the stupid side of everything more than the average human. Can't help it ) ------------------------------------------------- I'd rather be a jack of all trades than a master of one.
Prydeless Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:21:00 - [2] Be quiet alt..
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:22:00 - [3] Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 02/02/2007 19:18:10 Due to the mass amount of alts every one thinks every one else is an alt until ccp finally grows a pair and removes alts and multi accounting people will think your an alt Half Assed Rhymage
The Pointless Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:23:00 - [4] Woah, no need for drastics. Just a simple [MAIN] or [ALT] flag on the Info window would probably do. ------------------------------------------------- I'd rather be a jack of all trades than a master of one.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:24:00 - [5] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 02/02/2007 19:23:22 nope, sorry, you choose to stay in an NPC corp, you don't get taken seriously. It's really that simple. People will assume you are an alt, or call you one, because there's really not much difference between a main and an alt if they've always remained NPC corp members. NPC corp members don't matter in politics, wars, or anything except high sec empire trade for that matter. On the other hand, they are often associated with alt spies, alt trolls, alt haulers, alt farmers, alt thieves, alt scammers or simply people that can't bear to run risks or play as part of a corp. There's really no reason to assume they're worth your time is there ? No disrespect intended, but that's simply the result of how the game works. Old blog Originally by: Vriezuh Naz: John is a realist
Bawldeux IV Green Lantern Corps	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:30:00 - [6] Originally by: The Pointless Woah, no need for drastics. Just a simple [MAIN] or [ALT] flag on the Info window would probably do. ok, now explain how you can enforce which is which on that tag?? If we can change it, then it will still be a lie, only eating a lot of server cycles...and space on a db... let the tinfoil hat club kiddies see alts around every roid for all i care... it is their loss.
Bawldeux IV Green Lantern Corps	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:30:00 - [7] Originally by: The Pointless Woah, no need for drastics. Just a simple [MAIN] or [ALT] flag on the Info window would probably do. ok, now explain how you can enforce which is which on that tag?? If we can change it, then it will still be a lie, only eating a lot of server cycles...and space on a db... let the tinfoil hat club kiddies see alts around every roid for all i care... it is their loss.
hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:31:00 - [8] All players in NPC corps older than a month or so are alts. Why? Cause there is absolutely no reason why a real player won't be in a player corp after that time. == Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:31:00 - [9] All players in NPC corps older than a month or so are alts. Why? Cause there is absolutely no reason why a real player won't be in a player corp after that time. == Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
Kumu Honua	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:40:00 - [10] Originally by: hydraSlav All players in NPC corps older than a month or so are alts. Why? Cause there is absolutely no reason why a real player won't be in a player corp after that time. That's a narrow minded view of other people's personal play preference. (Lots of P!)
The Pointless Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:41:00 - [11] Originally by: Rod Blaine There's really no reason to assume they're worth your time is there ? No disrespect intended, but that's simply the result of how the game works. Actually that's not how the game works, it seems to be how people "work". It's not a piece of code which makes peeps assume who is an alt or not. Originally by: Rod Blaine NPC corp members don't matter in politics, wars, or anything except high sec empire trade for that matter. On the other hand, they are often associated with alt spies, alt trolls, alt haulers, alt farmers, alt thieves, alt scammers or simply people that can't bear to run risks or play as part of a corp. Or maybe I just haven't found a corp that tickles my fancy, or I feel I can work with. ------------------------------------------------- I'd rather be a jack of all trades than a master of one.
CaptainSeafort Gallente Through the Looking Glass	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:44:00 - [12] Originally by: hydraSlav All players in NPC corps older than a month or so are alts. Why? Cause there is absolutely no reason why a real player won't be in a player corp after that time. you know, no reason at all. that explains why maybe 10-15% of my mates are still in npc corps. my best mate ingame has a hulk, has an alt for his self bought freighter, does quite fine on his own - and doesnt want to commit to a corp. npc corp is fine for him, and frankly i think you should think what you say before you make an arse of yourself in future. "Planets and moons no longer hitch rides on player ships. Their towel privileges have been revoked." HHGG Lives on in EVE!
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:48:00 - [13] Originally by: hydraSlav All players in NPC corps older than a month or so are alts. Why? Cause there is absolutely no reason why a real player won't be in a player corp after that time. How dare you insult my FNA mentor Fog Render or Nitrox Upallnightgaming! Half Assed Rhymage
Kiviar Caldari	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:48:00 - [14] If you have been in an NPC school for more than a month people will think you are an alt. That is the end of it. Deal with it.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.02 19:56:00 - [15] Originally by: The Pointless Originally by: Rod Blaine There's really no reason to assume they're worth your time is there ? No disrespect intended, but that's simply the result of how the game works. Actually that's not how the game works, it seems to be how people "work". It's not a piece of code which makes peeps assume who is an alt or not. Originally by: Rod Blaine NPC corp members don't matter in politics, wars, or anything except high sec empire trade for that matter. On the other hand, they are often associated with alt spies, alt trolls, alt haulers, alt farmers, alt thieves, alt scammers or simply people that can't bear to run risks or play as part of a corp. Or maybe I just haven't found a corp that tickles my fancy, or I feel I can work with. Yes, but that makes you enough of a minority, or relatively insignificant to my gameplay, so that there's simply no reason for me to NOT assume you are an alt, or give you more courtesy then I would an alt. And that, is caused by gameplay mechanics and how epople use them. Old blog Originally by: Vriezuh Naz: John is a realist
The Pointless Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:06:00 - [16] Originally by: Kiviar If you have been in an NPC school for more than a month people will think you are an alt. That is the end of it. Deal with it. And how do you expect me to "deal with it"? Join a corp full of immature retards that go out of their way to lock you in by switching your role every 24 hours, or mine my backside off for the 15+ mill needed to form my own? ------------------------------------------------- I'd rather be a jack of all trades than a master of one.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:20:00 - [17] Originally by: The Pointless Originally by: Kiviar If you have been in an NPC school for more than a month people will think you are an alt. That is the end of it. Deal with it. And how do you expect me to "deal with it"? Join a corp full of immature retards that go out of their way to lock you in by switching your role every 24 hours, or mine my backside off for the 15+ mill needed to form my own? 15 mill to form a corp? pass the blunt please Half Assed Rhymage
hotgirl933	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:22:00 - [18] i think thats what alts are about quite simple. Join a player corp and u should do ok
The Pointless Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:24:00 - [19] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin 15 mill to form a corp? pass the blunt please Yeah... I'm beginning to realise why peeps hate that font ------------------------------------------------- I'd rather be a jack of all trades than a master of one.
EPSILON DELTA	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:25:00 - [20] Instead of flagging characters as main or alt, CCP could just add a tab in the player profile section that tells you the name of the current character's alts, and by checking the starting date of the two characters you can easily determine which one's oldest and which ones the one day alt. ... not that CCP would ever do that. or people could just check employment history, if you've never been in a player corp before you are usualy an alt.
Gabriel Karade Nulli-Secundus	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:27:00 - [21] Well to be fair, 99% of 'bog standard' alts have no standings, as they don't do missions, didn't complete the tutorial missions, or hunt NPC's/annoy Concord.... In your case I would see you were probably not a 'bog standard' alt, and maybe even not an alt at all... ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Zankoku Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:34:00 - [22] Originally by: The Pointless Originally by: Kiviar If you have been in an NPC school for more than a month people will think you are an alt. That is the end of it. Deal with it. And how do you expect me to "deal with it"? Join a corp full of immature retards that go out of their way to lock you in by switching your role every 24 hours, or mine my backside off for the 15+ mill needed to form my own? The second one? But note that, after you form your corp, you will then be war dec'd instead of being accused of being an ALT... Which would you prefer?
Snarls McGee	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:38:00 - [23] Originally by: The Pointless Originally by: Kiviar If you have been in an NPC school for more than a month people will think you are an alt. That is the end of it. Deal with it. And how do you expect me to "deal with it"? Join a corp full of immature retards that go out of their way to lock you in by switching your role every 24 hours, or mine my backside off for the 15+ mill needed to form my own? Honestly, if you have such an inherent distrust for other people why are you in an MMO? According to your logic why should anyone drive? We'll just all end up in an accident and be mangled for the rest of our lives.. Do these things happen? Yes. Do these things happen to EVERYONE ALL the time? No. ---------- We've all heard that a million monkeys typing will eventually create something intelligent. Thanks to message forums we know that isn't true.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:39:00 - [24] Originally by: Zankoku Originally by: The Pointless Originally by: Kiviar If you have been in an NPC school for more than a month people will think you are an alt. That is the end of it. Deal with it. And how do you expect me to "deal with it"? Join a corp full of immature retards that go out of their way to lock you in by switching your role every 24 hours, or mine my backside off for the 15+ mill needed to form my own? The second one? But note that, after you form your corp, you will then be war dec'd instead of being accused of being an ALT... Which would you prefer? I've been in my own corp for a month now and no war decs Half Assed Rhymage
Tabet Saens The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:39:00 - [25] The OP is pointless.
Dark Kavar Caldari Even-Flow	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:43:00 - [26] Originally by: The Pointless Originally by: Kiviar If you have been in an NPC school for more than a month people will think you are an alt. That is the end of it. Deal with it. And how do you expect me to "deal with it"? Join a corp full of immature retards that go out of their way to lock you in by switching your role every 24 hours, or mine my backside off for the 15+ mill needed to form my own? Most corps aren't like that, and if they lock you in my giving you more roles you can petition them Originally by: id rather leave on a good note but I hate my corp and do not want to play with them.
Cloora Caldari APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:43:00 - [27] This is the first MMO I have played where alts are a negative thing. Being the nature of this game I can understand why three character slots on one account might cause gameplay issues. But who's right is it to stop someone from PAYING $$$ to have more then one account? In this game that is the only way to TRUELY experiance more then one aspect of the game. If I want to fly a Hulk to mine and then also fly capitol ships for PvP why can I not pay more money to have more then one account? CCP will never block people from paying for more account. Why would a company say, "NO! I don't want more of your money! PLease stop it!" Doesn't make good business sence. Now from all I read about ISK --> GTC stuff then yeah maybe people aren't paying for thier other accounts but that is a whole nother issue as this game is also the first one I have played that you can do this. I wanted to start and alt so I can have someone specialize in research while I do mining and they can haul for me as well. My computer will not run two clients so I can't. And I am not spending the extra money on another computer at this time. But in the future I was excited about this prospect. All you people do is make me feel like I should not do this. ======================================== Cloora Caldari Miner/Fighter "It's none of my business what I think of you."
Sodhammer Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:44:00 - [28] You will be treated as an alt because you are not in a player corp. This may not be fair, but since so many of the members of the NPC corps are alts, that will be the assumption people make. This is a defensive position many people make to protect their own interests. Your best bet (for your original example of being called an alt), is to simply claim that your not, but ask if it matters. The more you protest to being an alt, the more people will think you are. A week or so ago I was returning to 0.0 (flying two ships with two accounts), and bumped into an alt (month old, no security status, npc corp). He complimented me on the ships (a t1 bc and bs) and asked what my alliance does (he asked if it was a mining/industrial alliance :) ). He waited for me at every gate (he was in a shuttle, and could out warp me). He was somehow wise enough to not enter 0.0 with me when we entered that region. Odds that this person is a primary? 0% Odds that he was trying to spark up a friendship to get info out of me at some future point? 100% Anything he could have done to convince me he was not an alt? Not a thing.
The Pointless Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:45:00 - [29] Originally by: Snarls McGee Honestly, if you have such an inherent distrust for other people why are you in an MMO? According to your logic why should anyone drive? We'll just all end up in an accident and be mangled for the rest of our lives.. Do these things happen? Yes. Do these things happen to EVERYONE ALL the time? No. I'm not that bad! I'm willing to hear peeps out. I'm just cautious, is all. Originally by: Tabet Saens The OP is pointless. Knock it off. ------------------------------------------------- I'd rather be a jack of all trades than a master of one.
Peacock McNuggets Guns 'N' Hoses	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:52:00 - [30] I hate to think howmany gigabytes of space on CCPs servers is devoted to the Alt discussion. Is this Character an alt? Most people wouldn't think so as she has a corp ticker. She is however the only person in that corp and my "Main" as most people would count it is a three year old vet compared to this 1 year old character. Alts are here to stay IMHO and will not go away not matter how much the forum warriors complain about it. If CCP had come up with a solution shortly after the game went live then it might have been possible. Now it is impossible.

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