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J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6339	Posted - 2016.02.20 16:28:26 - [121] - Quote ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote: Welcome to EVE. As you can see, everyone here is a bit crazy. Good luck and happy hunting. Also, never listen to Barstool Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 6976	Posted - 2016.02.20 17:30:22 - [122] - Quote J'Poll wrote: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote: Welcome to EVE. As you can see, everyone here is a bit crazy. Good luck and happy hunting. Also, never listen to Barstool Harrumph. Well excuuuuuuuuuuse me. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Annemariela Antonela Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out. 363	Posted - 2016.02.21 00:41:54 - [123] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Mara Pahrdi wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Arkoth 24 wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: i bought a subscription :) I don't wanna stay in this cluster anylonger. does anyone know what asteroid I can mine a care factor from? And just to get a little deeper into Sol's history, he used to roam Hek and surroundings as flashy red Solstice Project, blowing up stuff. Later he sold his character in a Plex for Good campaign and became Solecist Project and started to blow up threads on the forums . whilst currently inactive(?) ,sol still haunts the place and will show up from time to time, often with a new alias and frequently at the helm of some social engineering op. definitely one of my favorite personality's here sol would love this one , though the thread may have needed defusing were he present. I can usually spot him and his plays but im unnaturally paranoid (even for an eve player). as i said before, i think tiffany will be fine Sol is the cool cool-- come back through that revolving door, shexxay! GÇ£Culture is like a smog. To live within it, you must breathe some of it in and, inevitably, be contaminated.GÇ¥ GÇò Richard K. Morgan, Altered Carbon
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6342	Posted - 2016.02.21 02:28:33 - [124] - Quote Hi Sol [:D] I know you will read this Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.21 09:54:17 - [125] - Quote Would someone be able to help me? I have a grand plan but have no idea what I am doing. I think this game is better played with others. I am trying to choose a ship. I want something big but pretty that can do a little of everything I guess? I cant afford a carrier yet but I want to aim for one I think. In m races ship tree. I don't want a slave ship lol I don't know what to get :( or how to make enough monies lol.
Arkoth 24 Phayder 54	Posted - 2016.02.21 09:59:54 - [126] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I want something big but pretty that can do a little of everything Gnosis
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6343	Posted - 2016.02.21 10:17:59 - [127] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Would someone be able to help me? I have a grand plan but have no idea what I am doing. I think this game is better played with others. I am trying to choose a ship. I want something big but pretty that can do a little of everything I guess? I cant afford a carrier yet but I want to aim for one I think. In m races ship tree. I don't want a slave ship lol I don't know what to get :( or how to make enough monies lol. A couple of things: A. Bigger =/= Better B. Read the golden rules I wrote, a specialized ship >>> a jack-of-all-trades ship. Sorry, but a ship that can do a little bit of everything will suck at all those things. 1 ship = 1 job = 1 activity. If you want to PvP, grab a PvP ship. For missions grab a mission fitted ship. For mining, a miner etc. etc. C. A carrier might look like a nice ship, but you are far of from flying one as a new player. Minimum skills =/= the ability to properly fly it. And yes, EVE is best played with a group. So find yourself a group to fly with. Be it a community based group or an actual corporation that you join. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1180	Posted - 2016.02.21 12:30:50 - [128] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Would someone be able to help me? I have a grand plan but have no idea what I am doing. I think this game is better played with others. I am trying to choose a ship. I want something big but pretty that can do a little of everything I guess? I cant afford a carrier yet but I want to aim for one I think. In m races ship tree. I don't want a slave ship lol I don't know what to get :( or how to make enough monies lol. Ships are tools in this game. First you need to decide what job that you want to accomplish then you can figure out what ship would be good for that. Carriers can not be flown in high sec currently. Also they are big and slow. Further they have very little use outside of PvP. And they are getting revamped this summer or spring with an expansion set to change capital ships. I would focus more on learning the game. If you decide at somepoint that you'd like a carrier to do something with then get one. However I think once that you see how big and slow battleships are you might second guess flying a cap.
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6343	Posted - 2016.02.21 12:40:48 - [129] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Would someone be able to help me? I have a grand plan but have no idea what I am doing. I think this game is better played with others. I am trying to choose a ship. I want something big but pretty that can do a little of everything I guess? I cant afford a carrier yet but I want to aim for one I think. In m races ship tree. I don't want a slave ship lol I don't know what to get :( or how to make enough monies lol. Ships are tools in this game. First you need to decide what job that you want to accomplish then you can figure out what ship would be good for that. Carriers can not be flown in high sec currently. Also they are big and slow. Further they have very little use outside of PvP. And they are getting revamped this summer or spring with an expansion set to change capital ships. I would focus more on learning the game. If you decide at somepoint that you'd like a carrier to do something with then get one. However I think once that you see how big and slow battleships are you might second guess flying a cap. Not to mention that ANY capital is a fleet ship. A solo capital is just a nice juicy target if you don't have any back up to help you. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Memphis Baas 1159	Posted - 2016.02.21 14:58:22 - [130] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I am trying to choose a ship. I want something big but pretty that can do a little of everything I guess? In Minmatar races ship tree. I don't want a slave ship. Don't just pick a ship. Pick a progression of ships. There are some ships that are versatile, like the Rifter frigate, Rupture or Vexor cruisers, Dominix battleship, but they can't do "everything". They have evenly spread out slots (between high, medium, and low), so you can fit either armor or shield defenses, or PVP, or extra damage, and their weapon systems are versatile (drones, especially, as you can pick and choose what drones you use), but the name of the game is to min-max the ship bonuses to match your task. So you'll need: - An industrial transport ship, so you can move loot around. Most ships have 3-400 m3 space, specialized transports and freighters are the only ones that can get 10,000 - 50,000 - 300,000 m3 of space. - A number of combat ships; the bigger you go the slower they are and the more you have to rely on actual defenses (armor, shields) rather than being nimble. - Special purpose - scouts that can cloak (cov-ops frigates), ships with sensor and probing bonuses (so you can probe down and find exploration sites), mining ships (if you're into that). - PVP specific ships - electronic jamming, remote repair, interceptors, interdictors - depends on what the needs are for the group you're hanging out with. How to achieve it: Buy skills from the market and train them. Skills can be categorized as follows: - ship skills (in the Spaceship Command category) - unlock ships for you. - weapon skills (Gunnery, Missiles, Drones) - train the weapons for the ships you've chosen. Minmatar ships, for example, use projectile weapons (small, medium, or large to match the ship size), missiles, and the larger ships use some drones for defense against smaller ships. - support skills (Armor, Shields, Navigation, Targeting, Engineering, etc.) - these make all your ships perform better; clearly every ship will benefit from more armor, more shields, faster speed, more power, etc. - non-combat skills (Trade, Social, Corporation, Industry, Reprocessing, etc.) - train as needed, for the side activities you're interested in. Making money: Most of the player-vs-environment PVE can make you money. It's recommended you go find the career agents and do missions for them because they'll shower you with about 10 million ISK worth of ships and skills, as well as teach you the game a little. After that, you can do missions for cash and loot, you can explore (for hidden loot), you can lay down some Planetary Industry facilities (for product to sell for cash), you can mine (boring, don't do it), you can try your hand at trading (buy low sell high), or manufacture common things like ammo, missiles for sale. You can try to scam people, you can try to get them to give you gifts of money for ships (begging is an art form), you can infiltrate a corp and steal their stuff, or you can just join a newbie-friendly corp and they'll probably give you free stuff to get you started. You can also buy a PLEX with RL cash (from the EVE Account Management website) and sell it on the market in Jita (go to Jita first, then redeem it, don't travel with PLEX in your cargo), and that'll set you up for a long while. People do this because the activities in game become tedious and more like work after a while, and it's simply easier to just work a RL job and pay 20 EUR for a PLEX; it takes about a month of daily effort to make the equivalent 1 billion ISK through in-game activities. Slave ships: If you read through the lore here, you'll see that ships do have crews. But since the ships will be yours, you can (roleplay/pretend to) crew them with paid crewmembers rather than slaves, even the Amarr-manufactured ships.

Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 755	Posted - 2016.02.21 18:14:12 - [131] - Quote Yea. Even though I like to Roleplay an Amarr slaver. Lore wise Emperess Jamil outlawed slavery and was trying to make peace with Minmatar. Ships have crews, but they are strictly lore/rp. They have zero effect on gameplay because when you assemble the ship it is autocrewed. I think the sigil is the only ship with the flavor text saying something to the order of "use to be used as a slave ship" I like the sigil, so I sorta ran with the flavor text and made it a major part of my RP. Drone ships are the most flexible. I don't hyper-specialize like most players do, but I can say that there are too many roles that a ship can perform to be even mediocre at all of them. But a ship can sometimes be fit to perform two or three functions at an adequate level. Especially drone ships which can store multiple flights, and multiple types of drones. If flexibility is your thing, then I highly recommend drone ships, which Amarr and Gallante generally have most drone ships. A Carrier is a future goal, but a carrier is also a primary target. The number one rule of eve is don't fly what you can't afford to lose. So for now you'll be flying frigates and learning basic game mechanics. That way when you lose your frigates it won't hurt much. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2233	Posted - 2016.02.21 20:48:02 - [132] - Quote To reiterate an important point ... ships are just tools and expendables. What you do is, choose a task, profession you want to perform, and then select and skill for the suitable ship. There are some ships more versatile than others, which means they can be fitted in different ways efficiently to perform different tasks. Also it can be fun to fit a ship for something else than it is supposed to be used in order to surprise potential opponents. I'm my own NPC alt.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:06:03 - [133] - Quote coolies :) So I need to make money so I can fly big ships and afford to replace them if someone blows them up. I like the Gallente ships the most so I would like them. Just sad about the colour choices :( I know it doesn't affect the performance or anything but if the ship is a representation of me I want something nice lol. I am noticing there is a lot of politics in this game as well from what I've been reading. That's is going to be hard to understand. And then it seems all these different groups own all these different parts of space as well. And then there are these big wars. gosh. Why is everyone at war? So much going on lol. I have an idea for a cool alliance or whatever thye are called and I am now liking this video game lol. I think I'll stay :)
Memphis Baas 1163	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:18:53 - [134] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Why is everyone at war? Why is everyone manufacturing all these ships? Mining? Doing missions? Exploring? Planetary Interaction? Scamming people in Jita? Undocking their ships and flying around? Spinning their ships in station? It's a game. Here's a war, explained.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:41:09 - [135] - Quote no i mean like i read about fountain war but was wondering if there are others like that now?
Memphis Baas 1163	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:49:20 - [136] - Quote EVE News 24.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14247	Posted - 2016.02.22 03:02:39 - [137] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: EVE News 24. https://www.themittani.com As with media irl , Read both, they are equally biased so see where they coral ate (feckin smart phone) and use your own judgement on what you feel to be truth. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 757	Posted - 2016.02.22 09:35:00 - [138] - Quote mittani is biased, but it is also good reading :) My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6345	Posted - 2016.02.22 10:25:15 - [139] - Quote Iria Ahrens wrote: mittani is biased, but it is also good reading :) Every news site is biased. Specially in EVE. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Sabriz Adoudel Move along there is nothing here 5697	Posted - 2016.02.22 11:13:18 - [140] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Hello. My name is Tiffany. I am from Australia. I just started playing this video game (my first one ever!) and have been finding it very hard to understand. Someone told me I should put a post on here and introduce myself so here I am lol. Introducing myself. Hopefully there are some people out there that read this and play this as well that might be able to show me a few things or explain how everything works and what I need to do to get an understanding of it all. I didn't think it would be so hard. One person in the game just messaged me after I asked a question and said that it wasn't a girls game and to go and play the Sims instead so I kind of want to make sure I get this now. Tiff. Howdy, from another Australian. There's no such thing as a "girl's game" or a "mens' game". Two of the more ruthless pirates I know in EVE are women IRL. This game is generally aimed at people that are willing to do independent research into complex mechanics, and aggressively optimize to the point of bending the rules. If you are interested in the dark side of EVE - worming your way into people's trust then inserting a knife into their backs; joining corporations to fleece members; piracy; scamming - let me know via EVEmail, and I'll put you in touch with other e-assholes like myself. I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".

Sabriz Adoudel Move along there is nothing here 5697	Posted - 2016.02.22 11:15:34 - [141] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: no i mean like i read about fountain war but was wondering if there are others like that now? There's no massive conflicts of that scope right now. There's skirmishes, but nullsec is pretty quiet, and wormhole space seems to be quieting down too. There is definitely some serious rearming going on, however. Nullsec is on a war footing again in a way it wasn't 12 weeks ago. I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 6978	Posted - 2016.02.22 11:41:48 - [142] - Quote I look forward to the conflict any war provides. That said, EVE has many things to do. I lean towards exploration of wormhole space myself. It's rewarding, you can go at your own pace, there's pvp, and it's always fun. For me anyways. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
ISD Fractal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1055	Posted - 2016.02.22 16:45:20 - [143] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: no i mean like i read about fountain war but was wondering if there are others like that now? Different wars and offensives happen for different reasons. In a sandbox game like Eve, going to war with someone creates content for both sides and that's a good thing. Right now, for example, a newbie group called Pandemic Horde is deploying to the Fade region of null sec to invade the space of SpaceMonkeys Alliance. ISD Fractal Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.22 21:24:46 - [144] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Hello. My name is Tiffany. I am from Australia. I just started playing this video game (my first one ever!) and have been finding it very hard to understand. Someone told me I should put a post on here and introduce myself so here I am lol. Introducing myself. Hopefully there are some people out there that read this and play this as well that might be able to show me a few things or explain how everything works and what I need to do to get an understanding of it all. I didn't think it would be so hard. One person in the game just messaged me after I asked a question and said that it wasn't a girls game and to go and play the Sims instead so I kind of want to make sure I get this now. Tiff. Howdy, from another Australian. There's no such thing as a "girl's game" or a "mens' game". Two of the more ruthless pirates I know in EVE are women IRL. This game is generally aimed at people that are willing to do independent research into complex mechanics, and aggressively optimize to the point of bending the rules. If you are interested in the dark side of EVE - worming your way into people's trust then inserting a knife into their backs; joining corporations to fleece members; piracy; scamming - let me know via EVEmail, and I'll put you in touch with other e-assholes like myself. Hello :) Not really my thing sorry. I'm no good at fibbing and I'm more of a "do unto others" kind of person :) But thank you very much for the offer.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.22 21:44:47 - [145] - Quote So I've done lots of missions and stuff now but it's getting lonely out there in space :( How do you know what group to join? I just want one that wont be angry at me for not knowing everything and wont make me do things I don't want to do. But everyone keeps saying people stab you in the back or lie and cheat and steel and if possible I would like to minimise my chances of having that happen to me :(
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6349	Posted - 2016.02.22 21:52:14 - [146] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: So I've done lots of missions and stuff now but it's getting lonely out there in space :( How do you know what group to join? I just want one that wont be angry at me for not knowing everything and wont make me do things I don't want to do. But everyone keeps saying people stab you in the back or lie and cheat and steel and if possible I would like to minimise my chances of having that happen to me :( Look no further and read here Once you done that: Go look for a corp that suits you Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Memphis Baas 1169	Posted - 2016.02.22 22:34:33 - [147] - Quote It's kinda similar to how you found us. You make a post and see what happens. You join a corp that looks cool and see what happens. For social experimentation, I would recommend posting in General Discussion, where the trolls are, to build up a bit of flame resistance. The guide linked by J'Poll is pretty good; I recommend reading it. Also keep in mind that player corps in this game are created and function in order to achieve some in-game activity, and it takes a bit of effort on the part of the CEO and Directors to organize daily events for the members. So quite a few of the corps will be very... action oriented: Hi. Hi. How are you? Well, today I'm not feeling very well, my cat woke me up and then... Yeah that's nice; can you come to system X? I'm tackled by two guys and they're about to kill me, HELP! Finally, high-security space is crowded, and pretty much all the PVE activities can be done better solo than in a player group (shared loot, extra taxes). So a lot of the high-sec corps are crappy. The dangers of being attacked in lowsec, null, or wormhole space serve to keep a corp together and its members helping each other, so "dangerous space" corps tend to be better than high-sec corps. Not always, though. So, decide in general what you want to do, and click the Corp icon in-game, filter the list by your interests, look at the ads, and contact the recruiters for those that seem interesting. This will probably result in joining a small or medium group, who will probably readily accept you and be quite friendly. Or, you can also apply to join one of the large alliance mass newbie recruitment programs: Pandemic Horde, KarmaFleet, etc... they're organized like schools, and you can "hide" in the crowd of other newbies who've also joined.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14273	Posted - 2016.02.22 22:50:56 - [148] - Quote Memphis ... I'm pretty sure we are already neck deep in the social experiment. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.22 23:06:17 - [149] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Memphis ... I'm pretty sure we are already neck deep in the social experiment. What do you mean in a social experiment?
Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 58	Posted - 2016.02.22 23:10:35 - [150] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Memphis ... I'm pretty sure we are already neck deep in the social experiment. What do you mean in a social experiment? EVE is a social experiment without equal, and it had a single goal, and that was: To see if people are willing to pay to work a second job, on their own time. I would say it has been answered splendidly, but like good scientist they want to keep it going as long as possible to see the long term effects.



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