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Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 59	Posted - 2016.02.25 23:19:06 - [211] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: My mail icon says I have 6 unread mail but when I go to mail it says its not available during downtime... but its like 9am? I am having the same issue, probably a bug, just wait it out till you get home :)
Tiffany Hope Mandalorian Arms 18	Posted - 2016.02.26 05:21:12 - [212] - Quote yeah but I don't know if I want to come online after yesterday now :( Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 59	Posted - 2016.02.26 05:23:24 - [213] - Quote You will be fine Tiff, but take you time, like I said, you can prove them how wrong you are, in EVE, you are just shy of a Goddess, you can be who you want, anything you want, don't let the words of the few effect how you will impact New Eden
gfldex 741	Posted - 2016.02.26 05:26:18 - [214] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: yeah but I don't know if I want to come online after yesterday now :( Maybe the Orca pilot is requesting moral support? Your first corp will most likely not be your best corp. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
gfldex 741	Posted - 2016.02.26 05:28:35 - [215] - Quote Ace Lapointe wrote: You will be fine Tiff, but take you time, like I said, you can prove them how wrong you are, in EVE, you are just shy of a Goddess, you can be who you want, anything you want, don't let the words of the few effect how you will impact New Eden Mate, please check the killboard link I provided a few posts back and reconsider your advice. The problem is not words. She managed to get herself in between a rock and a hard place while being surrounded by utterly clueless morons. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 59	Posted - 2016.02.26 05:35:29 - [216] - Quote I know mate, I talk to her in-game and try and help her out each night since her first post, it's more, read up at some of her posts, people said stuff, buff said, but you are kinda right on the Corp thing, I was lucky and found an awesome group of guys, even if I only catch them online when I stay up till 4AM :P
gfldex 741	Posted - 2016.02.26 05:45:21 - [217] - Quote Alright, triage mode. Visit link1 and link2 to get a more or less complete list of your enemies. Add each of them to your address book and make sure you let it inform you about their online status. As long as they are offline, you are fine. Stay in a frig, be careful before you undock. The local chat will tell you if any hostiles are in system, with a little star next to their name. Jumping into the next system may be dangerous in a frig but they will need luck to catch you. If they don't you should be fine running missions, as long as you keep an eye on your overview. Be ready to warp out any time. Frigs are actually quite hard to catch and your enemies will likely come online after you left. That bounty you got is meaningless (you should have asked that question.That's what the bounty was for.), just ignore it. The worst that it will cause is that the char that places the bounty will get a few mails when you lose ships. Ships are meant to be lost. What are you waiting for? Given when the war was started (the timing is really close tho), you may actually have drawn the attention of those grim men towards your new corp. In my eyes you have the moral obligation to at least check what your corp mates have to say in those mails. Don't worry, war is a good teacher. You will know right away when you did something wrong. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 784	Posted - 2016.02.26 06:05:41 - [218] - Quote Just be aware, the online status function of the address book is going away, unless they accepted opt-in to allow you that info. But yea, looks like gfldex is giving good advice. Remember you are always empowered in Eve. There is always something you can do. Never allow yourself to feel like a victim. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Tiffany Hope Mandalorian Arms 18	Posted - 2016.02.28 10:03:48 - [219] - Quote stupid mail still doesn't work :( Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6365	Posted - 2016.02.28 12:02:53 - [220] - Quote What the F happened? Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club

ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1200	Posted - 2016.02.28 14:32:51 - [221] - Quote Ace Lapointe wrote: Myself, I love Providence and what they have managed to build over the years, unfortunately, nobody told me when I started that if i shot someone, I would be made KOS, so now, it is my hunting grounds, I wanted to FC for them to be honest, but wouldn't remove my KOS, so yeah, look up Providence, it is really impressive what they have done. So it is easy to get off of the KoS list. All that you have to do make good with all of the pilots of the ships that you destroyed. The simpliest way of doing this is to pay them the isk value of their loss. Another thing that you can do is join a corp that is blue. You will have to do some explaining to get their trust but you can do it. I've seen players that once were red join blue corps and become valuable local residents. I've also seen blues leave and join or create red corps. If you are seriously interested in joining the blue side of Provi NRDS gameplay You can start out on their website. Where there is a will there is a way. Tiffany Hope wrote: So I should make another character that is Amarr and join them? CVA has eased up on the whole RP a little. However CVA are not the only members of Provi block not to mention that you do not need to be in a sov holding corp to live in Provi. You've got: Yulai Federation, Se3rance, Sanctuary Pact which are all Provi NRDS sov holders. You also have The Volition Cult which used to be a Provi Sov holder and has now moved to extend NRDS into Catch last that I heard. You also have corps like the one that my main is in that don't hold Sov but have lived in Provi for years and help to contribute locally to the effort. OP if you are interested in NRDS game play or living in Provi convo me in game or send me a message and we'll talk more about it.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1200	Posted - 2016.02.28 14:40:42 - [222] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Ok. Yeah I had to leave those recruitment places. I literally cried :( You can't be so thin skinned and play this game. Well I guess technically you could be but then you'd have to like crying a lot.
Memphis Baas 1231	Posted - 2016.02.28 14:41:57 - [223] - Quote J'Poll wrote: What the F happened? Looks like Tiffany joined Mandalorian Arms, which I think was supposed to be a manufacturing corp.; they were war-decced on Feb. 22 by Devi's Warrior Alliance, on 24 (when she joined) by Pirat, and on 27 by Ni4OSI. And judging by the killboard link glfdex provided, the wars are very active with lots of kills. I'm guessing that people are smack-talking in local, using profanity. Also, Tiffany now has an exact 1 million ISK bounty, and is probably not logging in (no kills or deaths).
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1200	Posted - 2016.02.28 14:52:44 - [224] - Quote J'Poll wrote: What the F happened? Ya feeling like a missed a couple pages of this thread myself.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1200	Posted - 2016.02.28 14:54:40 - [225] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: J'Poll wrote: What the F happened? Looks like Tiffany joined Mandalorian Arms, which I think was supposed to be a manufacturing corp.; they were war-decced on Feb. 22 by Devi's Warrior Alliance, on 24 (when she joined) by Pirat, and on 27 by Ni4OSI. And judging by the killboard link glfdex provided, the wars are very active with lots of kills. I'm guessing that people are smack-talking in local, using profanity. Also, Tiffany now has an exact 1 million ISK bounty, and is probably not logging in (no kills or deaths). Thanks for the update. I could not figure out what was going on from the links.
Memphis Baas 1232	Posted - 2016.02.28 15:02:52 - [226] - Quote It's possible that this is an "establish a cover, fish for a wardec target, infiltrate, and provide target intel" story. Although, with evewho providing a full list of Mandalorian Arms' members, such a hoax doesn't seem necessary, unless it was to find them in w-space, where locator agents don't function.
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders 4309	Posted - 2016.02.28 16:35:25 - [227] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: It's possible that this is an "establish a cover, fish for a wardec target, infiltrate, and provide target intel" story. Although, with evewho providing a full list of Mandalorian Arms' members, such a hoax doesn't seem necessary, unless it was to find them in w-space, where locator agents don't function. Intriguing! Or maybe it's a 'find out who's carrying 7 plex in a noobship' story. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Tiffany Hope Mandalorian Arms 21	Posted - 2016.02.29 02:20:02 - [228] - Quote I have a bounty on me? Why? I didn't do anything to anybody. I was invited to join this corp but there is not many people online and It wont let me leave (I am in some 24 hour waiting period?) when I found out they were at war and I got moved into some alliance chat thing. Have I gotten myself into trouble? I log on every day but nobody told me someone wants me blown up :( All I do is mine in the safe areas. I'm not hurting anybody. I made 5 million now with what I have mined. Am I allowed to pay off the bounty on me myself or something? Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
Tiffany Hope Mandalorian Arms 21	Posted - 2016.02.29 02:32:04 - [229] - Quote Also I have like 11 mails so I am sorry everyone but the mail thing wont let me in there to check them :( Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
Memphis Baas 1234	Posted - 2016.02.29 02:35:21 - [230] - Quote Yes you have a bounty on you. Your portrait will say "wanted" in-game. Bounties are considered useless in this game because the only way for people to claim your bounty is to kill your ship, and then they only get 20% of the value of your ship. So if you fly a 400k frigate, they get 80k per kill, and they probably spend more than 80k on ammunition, so it's not worth it. Your corporation is at war with 3 pirate / PVP corporations. That means they can ask a locator agent to locate you (and all the other members of the corp) and they can kill you in high-sec without CONCORD interference. Typically when at war, people get a few war ships (frigates in your case I guess) and stop flying industrial ships; they go looking for fights, because your enemies sure will look for you. It's a PVP game, we blow each other up. You have to give up this idea that you're going to be able to avoid PVP if you just are nice and don't "hurt" anyone. Because you won't be able to avoid it; it's everywhere in this game. Wait your 24 hour period and then you'll be placed in an NPC corp, and the Mandalorian Arms war won't affect you anymore. Next time you join a corp, right-click and show info on the recruiter, then click his corp icon at the top, then look at al the tabs to see if they're at war. Industrialist or mining corps have wars declared against them all the time, because they are easy prey.

gfldex 747	Posted - 2016.02.29 04:51:50 - [231] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Have I gotten myself into trouble? Given you are playing EVE Online, I would say, yes, you got yourself into trouble. Tiffany Hope wrote: I log on every day but nobody told me someone wants me blown up :( All I do is mine in the safe areas. Roids and therefor minerals are not spawned just for you. They are spawned for every miner. If you mine them they can't. Expect some miners to understand this and to consider you to be competition. This being EVE, that competition is of the cut-throut kind. And if there is cut-throut competition you better hold the knife. A close friend of mine told you that Albert Dexson placed a bounty on your head (you should have gotten a mail with that information). Watch your back. Bounties are far from useless. If you place a bounty of 1B on a dedicated freighter pilot, you may actually render that char useless. Your bounty is just 1M. Unlikely anybody will seek you out for that. However, if there is another pilot happily mining away right next to you, but without a bounty, you will be a preferred pick. You have gotten yourself into trouble be joining the wrong corp. They are sheep. You should know very well what the Dingos do to sheep. Join the Dingos and you will be much safer. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
gfldex 747	Posted - 2016.02.29 05:40:40 - [232] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I'm not hurting anybody. You can't hurt anyone while playing EVE Online. Anything you see on screen is property of CCP Games (who are Vikings, what explains a lot). They grant you exclusive right to use what you call "my ship" if you are docked. As soon as you undock any player has the right to use that ship. The way to use that ship may differ, depending your standpoint, but they are property of CCP Games nonetheless. So how can you hurt me by shooting some internet spaceship that belongs to CCP Games? Of cause this is all just semantics. Because in the end EVE is just Ludo on a massive scale. So why would one want to play a game where he can be kicked back to the start? If you can answer that question, you understood EVE (and mankind for that matter). If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Arkoth 24 Phayder 66	Posted - 2016.02.29 08:54:49 - [233] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: It's possible that this is an "establish a cover, fish for a wardec target, infiltrate, and provide target intel" story. That would make Tiffany Hope not completely useless and even provide some respect to her. At last this story promises some interesting outcome.
Pandora Carrollon Kingsman Tailors 70	Posted - 2016.02.29 16:06:17 - [234] - Quote I think you can have a second account, take down your other account while in a rookie ship (so you don't lose a nice ship) and that will eliminate the bounty, or so I've heard but I have no idea how true that is. You can collect on your own bounty and teach the bounty makers a lesson in the process. It can be done with a trusted fellow player, but as others point out, finding some you REALLY can trust in EVE isn't all that easy...
Arkoth 24 Phayder 67	Posted - 2016.02.29 16:47:46 - [235] - Quote Pandora Carrollon wrote: ...finding some you REALLY can trust in EVE isn't all that easy... Ya can trust me. I always tell truth. For now i'm tellin' ya that your opinion on bounty is a total bullshit.
ISD Max Trix ISD Community Communications Liaisons 154	Posted - 2016.02.29 17:23:20 - [236] - Quote Removed an off topic post. ISD Max Trix Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department *I do not respond to Evemails.*
Mishra San 60	Posted - 2016.02.29 19:06:54 - [237] - Quote Welcome to Eve Online! \0/ sending virtual hug, virtual hug sent!
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1203	Posted - 2016.02.29 23:44:44 - [238] - Quote Tiffany you don't need to worry about bounties. The concepts that you have about right and wrong get thrown out the window the second that you log into this game. You don't have to do anything wrong to have people come after you in this game. Also worth pointing out is that high sec is full of players looking for soft targets meaning people looking to PvP against players that have no idea how to PvP. In all honesty if you want to get away from that type of gameplay move to null sec. There is seriously less PvP in null sec than in high sec, at least that has been my experience. So don't worry about the bounty and stop thinking what did you do wrong when people come after you. This is a forum alt for me because in this game if I were to come into the forums and talk openly about not seeking out PvP I'd likely have a list of players chasing me down and trying to force me to PvP. It's just how this game is. You can be ok with that or not but the game will still be what it is. You don't have to become anything in particular to play this game. However you also can change the game from the core of what it is. You have to find your place in it but allow it to be what it is.
Cara Forelli Meticulously Indifferent 1652	Posted - 2016.03.01 04:03:30 - [239] - Quote Pandora Carrollon wrote: I think you can have a second account, take down your other account while in a rookie ship (so you don't lose a nice ship) and that will eliminate the bounty, or so I've heard but I have no idea how true that is. You can collect on your own bounty and teach the bounty makers a lesson in the process. It can be done with a trusted fellow player, but as others point out, finding some you REALLY can trust in EVE isn't all that easy... You are thinking of kill rights, which can be shed in a rookie ship if they are made available to the public. That's why you should never make a kill right available for free, they'll just use an alt to clear it. You want to make them cheap enough that someone goes "yeah I'll pay that to attack this guy" but not cheap enough that you don't get anything from it. Bounties are different. The payout is a percentage of the cost of worth of the ship hull. Rookie ships aren't worth anything so it would take millions of them (if not an infinite amount) to clear a bounty. It's never cost effective to clear your own bounty because you have to blow up a lot more than you will make from the payout. Otherwise bounties would be worthless as it would be like giving free money to your enem(ies alts). Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament
Pandora Carrollon Kingsman Tailors 71	Posted - 2016.03.01 16:06:43 - [240] - Quote Cara Forelli wrote: You are thinking of kill rights, which can be shed in a rookie ship if they are made available to the public. That's why you should never make a kill right available for free, they'll just use an alt to clear it. You want to make them cheap enough that someone goes "yeah I'll pay that to attack this guy" but not cheap enough that you don't get anything from it. Bounties are different. The payout is a percentage of the cost of worth of the ship hull. Rookie ships aren't worth anything so it would take millions of them (if not an infinite amount) to clear a bounty. It's never cost effective to clear your own bounty because you have to blow up a lot more than you will make from the payout. Otherwise bounties would be worthless as it would be like giving free money to your enem(ies alts). Thank you for clearing that up, I was getting them confused. I kinda thought they were related somehow. Using the term 'bounty' is confusing then. It doesn't work like the modern, real world, term bounty.



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