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Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.02.17 01:27:56 - [1] - Quote Hello. My name is Tiffany. I am from Australia. I just started playing this video game (my first one ever!) and have been finding it very hard to understand. Someone told me I should put a post on here and introduce myself so here I am lol. Introducing myself. Hopefully there are some people out there that read this and play this as well that might be able to show me a few things or explain how everything works and what I need to do to get an understanding of it all. I didn't think it would be so hard. One person in the game just messaged me after I asked a question and said that it wasn't a girls game and to go and play the Sims instead so I kind of want to make sure I get this now. Tiff.
Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 55	Posted - 2016.02.17 01:44:52 - [2] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Hello. My name is Tiffany. I am from Australia. I just started playing this video game (my first one ever!) and have been finding it very hard to understand. Someone told me I should put a post on here and introduce myself so here I am lol. Introducing myself. Hopefully there are some people out there that read this and play this as well that might be able to show me a few things or explain how everything works and what I need to do to get an understanding of it all. I didn't think it would be so hard. One person in the game just messaged me after I asked a question and said that it wasn't a girls game and to go and play the Sims instead so I kind of want to make sure I get this now. Tiff. Hello Tiffany, I am Ace, I am also from Australia, glad to see in New Eden, and EVE was my first game too, so don't worry, I understand what your going through, was the same for me when I joined 8 months ago, tell you what, I will be online tonight around 8PM till about 3 hours after DT, so for about 6 hours tonight, and if you want, you can ask anything and everything, if you can, download TeamSpeak 3, and tonight I will give you the info for Spectre Fleet's comm's, and I can talk you through anything and everything PvP or PvE, and all the basic mechanics, add me in game and make sure you tick Watch List, it will send you a notification when I am online. Till then fly safe and hope to talk to you soon! (And get you in one my fleets and kill peoples!) P.S. If you want we can go gank the guy who messaged you! :D
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out 9617	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:03:12 - [3] - Quote ... ... tries to resist [deep jazzy voice] Hallo dere buttahcup. Lost in dis ere big game and bein put down already? Dayum shame. Come over ere and sit by papa. Jus like dat now... mmmm. Ah'll teach ya de birds and de bees honey. Mebbie buttah up some bread to. licks lips [/deep jazzy voice] Okay... serious response now. Welcome to EVE Tiffany Hope. If you have any questions about the game, you can ask them in this section of the forum without having to deal with [too much] trolling. As for the "this is a boy's game" comment... ignore it. In EVE you will deal with a lot of stuff like this. Not sexist comments per se... but a lot of "shitstirring." Thick skin is kind of a requirement as a lot of people like to provoke others or will rush to judgement. And now I realize that I may have just bitten some sneaky trollbait. Oh well... gotta give people the be efit ofthe doubt in this forum section. How did you Veterans start? "Learn how things work. The intricacies, interactions, and hard limits... knowing these things will grant you far more power in the long run."
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1164	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:03:39 - [4] - Quote There are girls that play this game. So who ever told you that was being an ass. However it probably is not the game for most girls out there but it does not have to be for most it only has to be for you. This game is famous for it's huge learning cliff. However with some help and guidance you can quickly become comfortable. I'd be more than happy to help you in what ever way that I can. If you have question ask away. If you would rather mail me questions you can do that as well. Since you haven't played other games I don't have to tell you to forget everything that you have learned in other MMOs since you haven't. I will however tell you that this game is an MMO and as such is intended to be multiplayer. What makes or breaks this game is the friends you make. So you are starting off the right way if you ask me.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1164	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:08:37 - [5] - Quote ShahFluffers wrote: And now I realize that I may have just bitten some sneaky trollbait. A corpmate of mine upon sitting cloaked in a wormhole combat site watching a guy in a shinny ship run it solo said in corp chat "he's got to be bait" (based on the way the guy was behaving). Right after that he said " but some bait is so good you just have to bite".
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:17:02 - [6] - Quote Ace Lapointe wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Hello. My name is Tiffany. I am from Australia. I just started playing this video game (my first one ever!) and have been finding it very hard to understand. Someone told me I should put a post on here and introduce myself so here I am lol. Introducing myself. Hopefully there are some people out there that read this and play this as well that might be able to show me a few things or explain how everything works and what I need to do to get an understanding of it all. I didn't think it would be so hard. One person in the game just messaged me after I asked a question and said that it wasn't a girls game and to go and play the Sims instead so I kind of want to make sure I get this now. Tiff. Hello Tiffany, I am Ace, I am also from Australia, glad to see in New Eden, and EVE was my first game too, so don't worry, I understand what your going through, was the same for me when I joined 8 months ago, tell you what, I will be online tonight around 8PM till about 3 hours after DT, so for about 6 hours tonight, and if you want, you can ask anything and everything, if you can, download TeamSpeak 3, and tonight I will give you the info for Spectre Fleet's comm's, and I can talk you through anything and everything PvP or PvE, and all the basic mechanics, add me in game and make sure you tick Watch List, it will send you a notification when I am online. Till then fly safe and hope to talk to you soon! (And get you in one my fleets and kill peoples!) P.S. If you want we can go gank the guy who messaged you! :D Hi Ace, I didn't think anyone would reply lol. I'm happy to meet someone that is from Australia too! I am Queensland time but I will get into the game when I finish work. I will need to find out what DT, Team speak, Spectre, pvp, pve all mean. Oh and Gank. So I will get back to you once I have googled all of that :) I am not sure how to add people in the game yet or where my watch list is so I will work on that one too.
Annemariela Antonela Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out. 360	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:21:46 - [7] - Quote Welcome to the game! DISCLAIMER GÇ£Culture is like a smog. To live within it, you must breathe some of it in and, inevitably, be contaminated.GÇ¥ GÇò Richard K. Morgan, Altered Carbon
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1165	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:26:39 - [8] - Quote DT = Down time. It's when CCP shuts down the game for about 15 minutes or so every day at I think 11:00 am GMT without using DST. GMT is Greenwich mean time also know as UTC. Team speak is an audio chat app for groups. It is used in MMOs alot for coordinating group efforts. Like fleet ops in this game or raids in other games or battlefields etc... anything where groups of people need to operate and have "comms" while playing. Spectre fleet is an NPSI (Not Purple Shoot It ) group that does public roams and shoots anyone not in fleet. Gank just means you are going to go blow up the guy that said that to you regardless of what concord thinks about the interaction.
Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 55	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:29:27 - [9] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Ace Lapointe wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Hello. My name is Tiffany. I am from Australia. I just started playing this video game (my first one ever!) and have been finding it very hard to understand. Someone told me I should put a post on here and introduce myself so here I am lol. Introducing myself. Hopefully there are some people out there that read this and play this as well that might be able to show me a few things or explain how everything works and what I need to do to get an understanding of it all. I didn't think it would be so hard. One person in the game just messaged me after I asked a question and said that it wasn't a girls game and to go and play the Sims instead so I kind of want to make sure I get this now. Tiff. Hello Tiffany, I am Ace, I am also from Australia, glad to see in New Eden, and EVE was my first game too, so don't worry, I understand what your going through, was the same for me when I joined 8 months ago, tell you what, I will be online tonight around 8PM till about 3 hours after DT, so for about 6 hours tonight, and if you want, you can ask anything and everything, if you can, download TeamSpeak 3, and tonight I will give you the info for Spectre Fleet's comm's, and I can talk you through anything and everything PvP or PvE, and all the basic mechanics, add me in game and make sure you tick Watch List, it will send you a notification when I am online. Till then fly safe and hope to talk to you soon! (And get you in one my fleets and kill peoples!) P.S. If you want we can go gank the guy who messaged you! :D Hi Ace, I didn't think anyone would reply lol. I'm happy to meet someone that is from Australia too! I am Queensland time but I will get into the game when I finish work. I will need to find out what DT, Team speak, Spectre, pvp, pve all mean. Oh and Gank. So I will get back to you once I have googled all of that :) I am not sure how to add people in the game yet or where my watch list is so I will work on that one too. Haha! All good, I am Sydney/Coast, so shouldn't be much off, and DT is shutdown, happens everynight 10PM.. Or 11PM.. I can't actually recall, haha! The game shuts down for 5-30 minutes to refresh and update. TeamSpeak is an out of game program that lets you talk to other people, like a phone call but via the computer, if you download it it would help me a lot so I can do stuff at the same time, also it is easy to talk about things via voice rather then text, and don't worry I will talk you through everything I can tonight :) just be online and I will take it from there, I will add your character and will wait for you to log, have a good day till then.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:33:08 - [10] - Quote ShahFluffers wrote: ... ... tries to resist [deep jazzy voice] Hallo dere buttahcup. Lost in dis ere big game and bein put down already? Dayum shame. Come over ere and sit by papa. Jus like dat now... mmmm. Ah'll teach ya de birds and de bees honey. Mebbie buttah up some bread to. licks lips [/deep jazzy voice] Okay... serious response now. Welcome to EVE Tiffany Hope. If you have any questions about the game, you can ask them in this section of the forum without having to deal with [too much] trolling. As for the "this is a boy's game" comment... ignore it. In EVE you will deal with a lot of stuff like this. Not sexist comments per se... but a lot of "shitstirring." Thick skin is kind of a requirement as a lot of people like to provoke others or will rush to judgement. And now I realize that I may have just bitten some sneaky trollbait. Oh well... gotta give people the be efit ofthe doubt in this forum section. Hello, I didn't really understand all the voice bits but trolling is making fun of people? Is that something that happens a lot? Thank you though. I will just have to be careful who I talk to I guess lol.

Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:40:56 - [11] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: DT = Down time. It's when CCP shuts down the game for about 15 minutes or so every day at I think 11:00 am GMT without using DST. GMT is Greenwich mean time also know as UTC. Team speak is an audio chat app for groups. It is used in MMOs alot for coordinating group efforts. Like fleet ops in this game or raids in other games or battlefields etc... anything where groups of people need to operate and have "comms" while playing. Spectre fleet is an NPSI (Not Purple Shoot It ) group that does public roams and shoots anyone not in fleet. Gank just means you are going to go blow up the guy that said that to you regardless of what concord thinks about the interaction. Hello, ok so I need to know this game like you do! lol I don't think I can use Team speak then because I don't have a phone that uses apps? Spectre people are the bad guys in the game then? Ok I understand Gank now but I don't know his name any more and I would feel bad if we killed his ship though. From what I have read it takes lots to get good ships and stuff and I will just ignore those people so it's ok :)
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1165	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:41:32 - [12] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I didn't really understand all the voice bits but trolling is making fun of people? Is that something that happens a lot? Trolling is when you say something, especially on an internet posting forum, that is intended to get a reaction from people. For example you could be trolling just by pretending to not know what we are talking about. You could also be trolling by pretending to be a damsel in distress in this video game that actually has a mission called damsel in distress. So it's not making fun of people. It is often just saying stupid things just to set people off. Also trolling is frowned up in the NC Q&A.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1165	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:44:20 - [13] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Spectre people are the bad guys in the game then? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d73XkPQPKiY good or bad are not things that exist in this game. At least not objectively and probably not at all.
Memphis Baas 1132	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:46:26 - [14] - Quote So, here's an EVE Lexicon so you don't have to google that stuff. EVE is a strategy game; the idea is to conquer space and make a home out of it for your group of people. But it's played from the individual's point of view, so instead of a single player ordering his fleet of ships to conquer the map, you and friends each fly individual ships, and hopefully use the correct tactics and strategy to win. Against other players. PVP. The game does not have classes (warrior, mage, thief, etc.); the skills that unlock the ships and the weapons are available for anyone to train. The advanced skills have some prerequisite basic skills that must be trained first, but otherwise, anything you want to add to your character, you can. It just takes time to train. Skills give small bonuses, 5% to this and that, and the idea is that you accumulate many bonuses so your overall fighting effectiveness increases. There are many skills; a combat pilot can have 160+ different skills. The skills are categorized as follows: - ship skills unlock new ships for you - weapon skills (gunnery, missiles, drones) - train the specific weapons that your ship requires - support skills (armor, shields, navigation, targeting, engineering, electronics) - train to make all your ships perform better - non-combat skills (trade, industry, reprocessing, corporations, etc.) - train as needed or if interested Ships are roles; if you want to perform a role within the fleet, you fly the appropriate ship with the appropriate weapons or other modules installed. So you want to unlock a selection of ships (various frigates, cruisers, transport ships, mining / industry, etc), so that you can choose and switch and not be bored, but at the same time trying to unlock all of them will take too long and is somewhat pointless, because each race (Amarr, Gallente, Caldari, Minmatar) has ships to cover the common roles / tasks. The game does have one "grind"; you must manage your money (ISK). Ships cost money, and they get destroyed in the fights, so you must use the various money-making activities periodically to rebuild your savings. The in-game Market interface is also an encyclopedia; you can look up anything, and instead of buying, just click the i (show info) button, and look at the stats. Also check out the Ships Chart for stats on all the ships. And keep in mind that the entire economy is player-driven; we manufacture ships, weapons, ammo, and all the gear, and we trade it all and use it. In any case, as a newbie you should do the career agent missions (they give you about 10 million ISK worth of ships, skills, and modules), and otherwise try everything to see what you may like to do. And also, ask lots of questions, esp. in this forum, we love questions here. The game has been around for a while, so there are very good game-related websites maintained by players. A good one is the EVE University wiki, just follow the links and read up, they explain a lot of stuff.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1165	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:47:06 - [15] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I don't think I can use Team speak then because I don't have a phone that uses apps? https://www.teamspeak.com/downloads TS ( teamspeak ) is not an app for your phone ( well maybe they have a phone version but that is not how it's typically used ). TS is an app that you put on your computer and talk with other people in a group setting. You could have hundreds of people in the same channel taking orders from one FC ( fleet commander ) .
Soloman Jackson Locust Assets 584	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:53:06 - [16] - Quote If you're new, I'd suggest running the career missions. You get a few new ships and skill books as well as a taste of a few things that New Eden has to offer. Don't mind what people say in chat. People will try to pull you off your square just to see if they can. Don't give them any tears for the jar. Find a player corp. Try one out and if it doesn't fit, don't be afraid to find another until you land somewhere comfortable. Don't fly what you cannot afford to lose. Even in high security space you can lose your ship so until you can afford it fly cheap and effective. The most important thing is, have fun! Don't worry about what the other guy is doing or has. EvE is a long haul game. Have patience and you'll get along famously. o7 "I heard you know a thing or two, about a thing or two. Maybe we can come to an understanding..."
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1165	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:58:13 - [17] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Hmc7eeXjw sorry for the spam posting but this clip puts the first good / bad clip in more context.
Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 55	Posted - 2016.02.17 02:58:55 - [18] - Quote I FC for Spectre, we aren't bad guys, we are content generators, and we work with other groups to bring good fights, we have fun, our opponents have fun, PvP'ers should PvP for the joy of it, not for win or loss, I enjoy PvP heavily, also enjoy PvE, but we aren't the bad guys, we are netral if anything, cause we engage pirates and criminals and people roaming Low Sec and Null Sec, who are all looking for PvP by virtue of being there. Plus, if we were the bad guys, why would I be happy and willing to help newer players? Even if they never join a Spectre Fleet, I enjoy making friends, it is great when you log in and people are already saying hello and stuff :) Yeah as others said Ts3 is for your computer, it is a program, it is free, and all you need is a computer to use it, it is a great program, I will talk you through some other ones you will need, like PyFa, EFT, things that will help you in the long run.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.02.17 03:06:39 - [19] - Quote Ok I think I am kind of getting some of this now lol. I don't mean to be rude but I cant reply to all of the posts on here as I am not fast on the keyboard and lots of people are on here I think. I don't want to come across as a "damsel in distress" or waste anyone's time. I'm really sorry If I offended you or if I am being a troller. I am just trying to find a way to understand the game. This seems like an easy way which goes well with my lazy personality lol.
Memphis Baas 1133	Posted - 2016.02.17 03:10:18 - [20] - Quote Voice communications (voice comms) are used because in the heat of battle you can't take the time to type instructions to your fleet buddies. The game has voice comm capabilities, but players prefer to use third party programs (Ventrillo, TeamSpeak, or Mumble), because if the game crashes the voice comms won't and they can still organize everyone to log back in and continue the fight. Here is a video that shows voice-comms in action. But voice comms are for later; as a newbie learning the game you can certainly do ok without voice. As a warning, this game is about combat between players, and people get competitive to the point where they'll start throwing insults just to get you to falter or to dissuade you from killing them. It's not always friendly, and if they detect that you are new they may try to take advantage of your lack of knowledge about the game. The game allows "bad" activities such as theft, scamming, espionage, piracy, etc.; if you want to be a bad guy you can, in this game. As a result, people will be slow to trust you, and you shouldn't trust anyone you don't know, and if a deal appears too good to be true, then it's probably a scam.

ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1165	Posted - 2016.02.17 03:11:00 - [21] - Quote You are not bothering anyone or being a troll if you are being strait up with everyone. I think what people mean by claiming that you might be a troll is hinting that you might be a man IRL ( in real life ) that has been gaming online for decades. So if you were not who you say you are and just pretending to be what you claim to be just to watch people react to the lie then you would be a troll. Even at that you would not be an angry or disruptive one so it could be worse. But again you are not bothering anyone here by asking questions that you legitimately would like answers for.
Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 55	Posted - 2016.02.17 03:12:10 - [22] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Ok I think I am kind of getting some of this now lol. I don't mean to be rude but I cant reply to all of the posts on here as I am not fast on the keyboard and lots of people are on here I think. I don't want to come across as a "damsel in distress" or waste anyone's time. I'm really sorry If I offended you or if I am being a troller. I am just trying to find a way to understand the game. This seems like an easy way which goes well with my lazy personality lol. It's just an EVE thing, you will start seeing it after a bit, don't worry about it, people thought I was a troll when I first started, it happens to a lot of people, if you know to much about the game (I read up for months before I started, so I new a bit for a newbie), people who don't know anything at all, just takes time, you will do fine, just focus on learning the game, and having fun, and don't listen to the negative, and you will be fine :) Oh, reminds me, are you NT side of QLD? Or the East Coast? Just trying to work out when I have to get dinner cooked by, haha!
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.02.17 03:14:35 - [23] - Quote Ace Lapointe wrote: I FC for Spectre, we aren't bad guys, we are content generators, and we work with other groups to bring good fights, we have fun, our opponents have fun, PvP'ers should PvP for the joy of it, not for win or loss, I enjoy PvP heavily, also enjoy PvE, but we aren't the bad guys, we are netral if anything, cause we engage pirates and criminals and people roaming Low Sec and Null Sec, who are all looking for PvP by virtue of being there. Plus, if we were the bad guys, why would I be happy and willing to help newer players? Even if they never join a Spectre Fleet, I enjoy making friends, it is great when you log in and people are already saying hello and stuff :) Yeah as others said Ts3 is for your computer, it is a program, it is free, and all you need is a computer to use it, it is a great program, I will talk you through some other ones you will need, like PyFa, EFT, things that will help you in the long run. Ok so it is like a conference call on the computer? So many acronyms to learn. This may take me a while to get my head around :( I didn't grasp all of that but if you aren't the bad guys then that means I don't have to "gank" you? :) At the moment I am enjoying getting in to the game and nobody has blown my ship up when I am away! lol
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.02.17 03:19:42 - [24] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Voice communications (voice comms) are used because in the heat of battle you can't take the time to type instructions to your fleet buddies. The game has voice comm capabilities, but players prefer to use third party programs (Ventrillo, TeamSpeak, or Mumble), because if the game crashes the voice comms won't and they can still organize everyone to log back in and continue the fight. Here is a video that shows voice-comms in action. But voice comms are for later; as a newbie learning the game you can certainly do ok without voice. As a warning, this game is about combat between players, and people get competitive to the point where they'll start throwing insults just to get you to falter or to dissuade you from killing them. It's not always friendly, and if they detect that you are new they may try to take advantage of your lack of knowledge about the game. The game allows "bad" activities such as theft, scamming, espionage, piracy, etc.; if you want to be a bad guy you can, in this game. As a result, people will be slow to trust you, and you shouldn't trust anyone you don't know, and if a deal appears too good to be true, then it's probably a scam. Oh I didn't know it was like that. So there are police on here as well in case people try that? I'm not very good at computers and stuff so is this not something I should be doing?
Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 55	Posted - 2016.02.17 03:24:45 - [25] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Ace Lapointe wrote: I FC for Spectre, we aren't bad guys, we are content generators, and we work with other groups to bring good fights, we have fun, our opponents have fun, PvP'ers should PvP for the joy of it, not for win or loss, I enjoy PvP heavily, also enjoy PvE, but we aren't the bad guys, we are netral if anything, cause we engage pirates and criminals and people roaming Low Sec and Null Sec, who are all looking for PvP by virtue of being there. Plus, if we were the bad guys, why would I be happy and willing to help newer players? Even if they never join a Spectre Fleet, I enjoy making friends, it is great when you log in and people are already saying hello and stuff :) Yeah as others said Ts3 is for your computer, it is a program, it is free, and all you need is a computer to use it, it is a great program, I will talk you through some other ones you will need, like PyFa, EFT, things that will help you in the long run. Ok so it is like a conference call on the computer? So many acronyms to learn. This may take me a while to get my head around :( I didn't grasp all of that but if you aren't the bad guys then that means I don't have to "gank" you? :) At the moment I am enjoying getting in to the game and nobody has blown my ship up when I am away! lol Kinda yeah, that is one way to explain how Ts3 works, and haha! We generally have 30+ guys, you don't gank us, you fight us! :D even I have fought a Spectre Fleet in my beautiful new Battleship when I decided to roam when a fleet was running :P was a good loss And good, stick to PvE for the mean while, make some ISK, i will show you some tricks tonight on how to make more ISK in a fun way, but yeah! Anyways, should you be working? :P
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1165	Posted - 2016.02.17 03:31:59 - [26] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: So there are police on here as well... ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFs3yMH36ow
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.02.17 03:32:38 - [27] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: You are not bothering anyone or being a troll if you are being strait up with everyone. I think what people mean by claiming that you might be a troll is hinting that you might be a man IRL ( in real life ) that has been gaming online for decades. So if you were not who you say you are and just pretending to be what you claim to be just to watch people react to the lie then you would be a troll. Even at that you would not be an angry or disruptive one so it could be worse. But again you are not bothering anyone here by asking questions that you legitimately would like answers for. Oh! lol I get it now. Sorry, took me a bit. Everyone has a picture with their name though so I can tell though :) Also that's slightly more than a little weird lol. Promise I will do my best not to bother anyone :)
Memphis Baas 1133	Posted - 2016.02.17 03:38:30 - [28] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Oh I didn't know it was like that. So there are police on here as well in case people try that? I'm not very good at computers and stuff so is this not something I should be doing? Well, it's a game, so the galaxy is organized into regions of increased or lowered "security": - High security space is where newbies start, and the "police" is called CONCORD, but because this is a game of pvp fights between players, the police won't save you, they'll just punish the attacker by destroying his ship. So if you have an expensive ship with lots of loot in the cargo, like if you're returning home from a mission, and the pirate has a cheap ship, he can kill your ship, get destroyed, come back with a transport, loot your stuff, and come out ahead. It's called "suicide ganking." - Low security space doesn't have CONCORD police, but some of the stations and stargates have guns that will shoot criminals. However, it's possible to fit the bigger ships to absorb this damage, so lowsec space is where a lot of piracy and PVP fights happen. - Null security space (aka 0.0), there are no defensive guns or CONCORD, so anything goes. This is where the alliances occupy a constellation or region and call it their home; they can build their own stations, and have patrols and defense fleets, and go to war with each other. It's pretty safe, if you're a member, otherwise if you're an intruder you'll be hunted by the defense fleets. Otherwise, scamming, theft, all that stuff are allowed to happen by the game, and players police themselves. If you have friends, they can go attack the thief or scammer, but it's easiest to not fall prey to the scam in the first place. EDIT: "gank" just means "overkill". If I gank you, it means you had no chance, like if I bring 50 friends and they all open fire together, and you're alone. Otherwise if it's a balanced fight, we just call it "a fight." Most fights in the game are realistic, in that there are no fair fights; each side tries to bring superior firepower in order to have minimum casualties. Hence, "gank" gets used a lot.
Pix Severus Empty You 3097	Posted - 2016.02.17 03:44:21 - [29] - Quote Welcome to EVE, have fun! My lord.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.02.17 03:45:04 - [30] - Quote Ace Lapointe wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Ok I think I am kind of getting some of this now lol. I don't mean to be rude but I cant reply to all of the posts on here as I am not fast on the keyboard and lots of people are on here I think. I don't want to come across as a "damsel in distress" or waste anyone's time. I'm really sorry If I offended you or if I am being a troller. I am just trying to find a way to understand the game. This seems like an easy way which goes well with my lazy personality lol. It's just an EVE thing, you will start seeing it after a bit, don't worry about it, people thought I was a troll when I first started, it happens to a lot of people, if you know to much about the game (I read up for months before I started, so I new a bit for a newbie), people who don't know anything at all, just takes time, you will do fine, just focus on learning the game, and having fun, and don't listen to the negative, and you will be fine :) Oh, reminds me, are you NT side of QLD? Or the East Coast? Just trying to work out when I have to get dinner cooked by, haha! I am between Brisbane and Sunshine Coast, so East Coast :)

Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 55	Posted - 2016.02.17 03:50:32 - [31] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Ace Lapointe wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Ok I think I am kind of getting some of this now lol. I don't mean to be rude but I cant reply to all of the posts on here as I am not fast on the keyboard and lots of people are on here I think. I don't want to come across as a "damsel in distress" or waste anyone's time. I'm really sorry If I offended you or if I am being a troller. I am just trying to find a way to understand the game. This seems like an easy way which goes well with my lazy personality lol. It's just an EVE thing, you will start seeing it after a bit, don't worry about it, people thought I was a troll when I first started, it happens to a lot of people, if you know to much about the game (I read up for months before I started, so I new a bit for a newbie), people who don't know anything at all, just takes time, you will do fine, just focus on learning the game, and having fun, and don't listen to the negative, and you will be fine :) Oh, reminds me, are you NT side of QLD? Or the East Coast? Just trying to work out when I have to get dinner cooked by, haha! I am between Brisbane and Sunshine Coast, so East Coast :) Beautiful, I won't have to rush dinner tonight, seafood marinara here we come! Talk to you tonight, make sure you download Ts3, the rest I will help you through :)
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1166	Posted - 2016.02.17 03:58:21 - [32] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I will do my best not to bother anyone :) we are all here by our own will. You could just ask whatever questions that you would like answered and let us decide for ourselves what is bothersome and what is not. If you ask a question that would be drudgery for me to answer I can choose to not answer it. If someone else decides that they would love to answer that same question they can choose to do so. Even if I do choose to answer a question that is a bother that is my choice and you should not hold yourself responsible for other people's choices. TL;dr You worry about you and let other's worry about themselves.
Azda Ja Meticulously Indifferent 4891	Posted - 2016.02.17 03:58:26 - [33] - Quote People in my default corp thought I was trying to scam/get them killed when I first started. Don't let it get to you, there's a lot of great people in this game. Welcome to New Eden! Grrr.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.02.17 04:21:32 - [34] - Quote thanks everyone. Hopefully I get good at this!
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 736	Posted - 2016.02.17 04:33:04 - [35] - Quote Wow. I'm just trying to imagine EVE as my first MMO. It almost makes me think taking someone that never swam before and throwing them into a pool filled with sharks. One of the goals of this game is to bring back a sense of danger, a frontier "lawless west" kind of atmosphere, where the only law is the one you made. Because of that, many things that would be disallowed on other games, and invoke instant bans and Game Master intervention. Here, CCP (the company that makes Eve) is pretty hands off. There is a very short list of things that are not ok. Basically, a newbie is supposed to be safe from scams, baiting, and other techniques to force pvp while in newbie systems, and the tutorial systems. Once you leave those systems you become fair game. Since this is your first MMO, don't assume a player's true sex is the same as their avatar. The very great majority of player in eve are male. There is a WGOE (women gamers of eve) channel where you can go to talk with other ladies if you start feeling stifled by testosterone. Eve is very difficult to learn. But it is very rewarding. The time you invest in learning anything is never wasted. It is very deep and detailed. I've been playing since 2007 and I'm still learning stuff on a nearly daily basis. Most of all, the community is very helpful if you demonstrate a willingness to learn, and an empowered attitude. We like shooting people, but the community is hard on anyone acting like a victim. Every time someone blows you up or successfully scams you, there is always something you could have done to prevent it, or even come out ahead. So if your attitude when you get blown up or otherwise beat by another player is, "I screwed up, what did I do wrong, and what can I do to fix it." If you take that attitude to heart, you will go far in this game, and be welcome in any fleet. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.02.17 04:51:00 - [36] - Quote Iria Ahrens wrote: Wow. I'm just trying to imagine EVE as my first MMO. It almost makes me think taking someone that never swam before and throwing them into a pool filled with sharks. One of the goals of this game is to bring back a sense of danger, a frontier "lawless west" kind of atmosphere, where the only law is the one you made. Because of that, many things that would be disallowed on other games, and invoke instant bans and Game Master intervention. Here, CCP (the company that makes Eve) is pretty hands off. There is a very short list of things that are not ok. Basically, a newbie is supposed to be safe from scams, baiting, and other techniques to force pvp while in newbie systems, and the tutorial systems. Once you leave those systems you become fair game. NQ&A is also supposed to be a safe haven from trolling and harassment. If you posted this in General Discussions, you would have gotten helpful replies, and a lot of trolling and accusations of trolling. All other forums are considered part of the game, so anything that is ok in Local is ok in GD. Since this is your first MMO, don't assume a player's true sex is the same as their avatar. The very great majority of player in eve are male. There is a WGOE (women gamers of eve) channel where you can go to talk with other ladies if you start feeling stifled by testosterone. Eve is very difficult to learn. But it is very rewarding. The time you invest in learning anything is never wasted. It is very deep and detailed. I've been playing since 2007 and I'm still learning stuff on a nearly daily basis. Most of all, the community is very helpful if you demonstrate a willingness to learn, and an empowered attitude. We like shooting people, but the community is hard on anyone acting like a victim. Every time someone blows you up or successfully scams you, there is always something you could have done to prevent it, or even come out ahead. So if your attitude when you get blown up or otherwise beat by another player is, "I screwed up, what did I do wrong, and what can I do to fix it." If you take that attitude to heart, you will go far in this game, and be welcome in any fleet. Hello and thank you. I think I will try and find that place. I am not quite sure though, is that in MMO or Eve? So far everyone on here has been very nice and helpful. Im just sorry I don't understand it all yet but I will learn. The first thing I want to learn is how to change the colour of my space ship lol. :)
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 5742	Posted - 2016.02.17 04:55:38 - [37] - Quote Women Gamers of EVE [WGoE]
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.02.17 05:51:45 - [38] - Quote Now all I need is a really big, really colourful space ship with lots of guns and stuff and I will be away :)
Hani Tian Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 1014	Posted - 2016.02.17 07:13:34 - [39] - Quote Wow first game ever? What made you play eve? Pretty interesting choice for the first game, considering eve's reputation :P
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.02.17 08:28:06 - [40] - Quote Hani Tian wrote: Wow first game ever? What made you play eve? Pretty interesting choice for the first game, considering eve's reputation :P Well it wasn't really my choice. But I also don't have anything to compare it to so I can say its the best game I ever played lol. Well I do have Wii Fit but I don't think that counts does it?

Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 25946	Posted - 2016.02.17 11:09:12 - [41] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I didn't think it would be so hard. One person in the game just messaged me after I asked a question and said that it wasn't a girls game and to go and play the Sims instead so I kind of want to make sure I get this now. That person is an arse-hole misogynist, ignore people like that; Eve is for those that can survive, regardless of their gender. Shah Fluffer's jazzy voice thing is an injoke, people who play other games often regard Eve players as a little weird, we often play up to that image for giggles. PvP is competing with other players, the most common form of it is shooting other people in the face. there are plenty of other forms, some of which are classed as PvE by others. PvE is technically you vs the environment, running missions against NPCs, mining etc; most of it is designed to encourage or fund PvP, and PvP will often find you while you're doing it. New Citizens Q&A is the place to ask any questions that you may have, in here we won't troll you unless you deserve it and a lot of the people who post answers have years of ingame experience to share with you. WGOE is an ingame chat channel, there's a fair few ladies that play Eve and as somewhat of a minority they tend to stick together. Iria Ahrens wrote: Wow. I'm just trying to imagine EVE as my first MMO. It almost makes me think taking someone that never swam before and throwing them into a pool filled with sharks. It was my first MMO , still here nearly 7 years later. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Memphis Baas 1133	Posted - 2016.02.17 11:10:47 - [42] - Quote Hani Tian wrote: What made you play eve? Tiffany Hope wrote: Well it wasn't really my choice. You disclosed your address readily enough, but are evasive about reasons you're playing? That's a bit odd.
Oraac Ensor 672	Posted - 2016.02.17 13:21:59 - [43] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Iria Ahrens wrote: Wow. I'm just trying to imagine EVE as my first MMO. It almost makes me think taking someone that never swam before and throwing them into a pool filled with sharks. It was my first MMO , still here nearly 7 years later. It was also my first MMO and four years down the line it's still my only MMO. My only previous gaming experiences were Elite (original Commodore 64 version), Homeworld 1, Homeworld 2 and several Homeworld-based mods.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14186	Posted - 2016.02.17 13:59:14 - [44] - Quote sol, that you? Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
gfldex 739	Posted - 2016.02.17 15:24:19 - [45] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: it wasn't a girls game Do girls rob, steal and plunder? Do they plot schemes and betrayal? Do they stomp their enemies into the ground while cutting a throat to deal with competition? If you can answer any of those questions with: "beep, yes!", this might be a girls game. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14187	Posted - 2016.02.17 15:39:40 - [46] - Quote on the off chance this isn't the ground work for social engineering i will say that the women i know who play eve are 1) blood thirsty 2) better at it than most 3) quiet (except kayleigh) Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2224	Posted - 2016.02.17 16:19:23 - [47] - Quote Welcome to New Eden! EvE was my first MMO style game too, and the only one I play till today. EvE has some unique value propositions you will not find elsewhere, like one single persistent universe where all players of the world and all play styles co-exist, depend on each other and interact. Also it's a sandbox with a lot of tools but very few (artificial) rules, there is no out-of-game matchmaking, but a well balanced ship collection and environmental obstacles acting as conflict drivers. I'm my own NPC alt.
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6314	Posted - 2016.02.17 16:41:38 - [48] - Quote Almost home, will introduce myself and help you out with what I can then. For now, will leave this here: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/WGoE You are not alone. In just the 5.5 years in EVE, I have played / encountered at least a dozen female gamers, some quite succesful and outspoken, others very relaxed and shy about it. So which ever asshat said to go play another game is part of the problem, a gamer = a gamer, where does the gender makes a difference in that? Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6314	Posted - 2016.02.17 20:56:04 - [49] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Hello. My name is Tiffany. I am from Australia. I just started playing this video game (my first one ever!) and have been finding it very hard to understand. Someone told me I should put a post on here and introduce myself so here I am lol. Introducing myself. Hopefully there are some people out there that read this and play this as well that might be able to show me a few things or explain how everything works and what I need to do to get an understanding of it all. I didn't think it would be so hard. One person in the game just messaged me after I asked a question and said that it wasn't a girls game and to go and play the Sims instead so I kind of want to make sure I get this now. Tiff. Goodevening Tiffany. Welcome to EVE. If you enjoy this game, say goodbye to your social life . Now, as for helping you, just ask away. The New Player Q&A is there for that sole reason, for new players like you (and others) to ask their questions and get them answered by us. We are mainly a bunch of friendly people who like to help and assist new players with all their questions. But keep in mind, we ARE EVE players, so if you come across us in game, be on your guard. We won't hesitate to shoot you if you make yourself a target in any way. We only play nice (well, usually) on the forums. As for some golden tips / rules in EVE: 1. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. This includes: Ships, modules, cargo and implants. 2. If it sounds too good to be true, it generally is. Scamming, theft, etc. are all perfectly legal in EVE. 3. When in doubt, right click it. 4. Make friends (and enemies) with people. Be social, talk to people, talk to local, get involved with groups/communities. 5. Take everything people tell you with a bucket of salt. Even us here on the forums (it's always good to cross check replies and/or wait for others to reply too). 6. Take your time. 7. ENJOY the game. 8. Take a look at the sticky posts here on the NCQA forum, there are some very very helpful guides linked in them. And I love shah's thread on how us veterans started in EVE. 9. NEVER, EVER let someone else tell you how to play this game. It's your subscription, it's your free time, use it as you see fit. There is NO way to play EVE in a wrong way. 10. If it sounds interesting, try it out. It doesn't take max skills to try something, that last level 5 of a skill only helps slightly in most cases. Trainign up to level 3 or 4 is usually more then enough to try something out decently and see if you like it. Unlike most games, EVE doesn't have classes in the way that you are stuck with it. The ship you use defines your class. 11. Ships in EVE are tools, as are the modules fitted. There is no real "Jack of all trades" ships. Pick a ship, utilize it's strengths and use it for 1 thing. Don't try to build a swiss army knife when you can have a whole toolbox with dedicated tools. 12. Don't dual tank (Shield OR armor, not both) and don't dual gun (1 type of gun, and then all of the same). 13. EVE in it's core is a PvP game (PvP = Player vs Player), thus NO place in space is safe. High-sec (1.0 - 0.5) is slightly safer then low-sec (0.1 - 0.4) and null-sec (-1.0 - 0.0). Nothing stops anybody from shooting you anywhere. Why, well "Just cause I can" is reason enough in EVE. Only in high-sec there is your EVE-Police called CONCORD, they will punish but they won't protect (like the real police too) 7 is one of the most important ones. And of course: Ask questions. Ask them here, ask them in game (plenty of the regulars you will see here won't mind if you EVEmail them or start a conversation with them). And if you ever want to get into contact with your fellow female gamers, as linked above by me. Read the link and join their public chat and ask for moderators to help you get in the real channel. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6314	Posted - 2016.02.17 21:05:45 - [50] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Ace Lapointe wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Hello. My name is Tiffany. I am from Australia. I just started playing this video game (my first one ever!) and have been finding it very hard to understand. Someone told me I should put a post on here and introduce myself so here I am lol. Introducing myself. Hopefully there are some people out there that read this and play this as well that might be able to show me a few things or explain how everything works and what I need to do to get an understanding of it all. I didn't think it would be so hard. One person in the game just messaged me after I asked a question and said that it wasn't a girls game and to go and play the Sims instead so I kind of want to make sure I get this now. Tiff. Hello Tiffany, I am Ace, I am also from Australia, glad to see in New Eden, and EVE was my first game too, so don't worry, I understand what your going through, was the same for me when I joined 8 months ago, tell you what, I will be online tonight around 8PM till about 3 hours after DT, so for about 6 hours tonight, and if you want, you can ask anything and everything, if you can, download TeamSpeak 3, and tonight I will give you the info for Spectre Fleet's comm's, and I can talk you through anything and everything PvP or PvE, and all the basic mechanics, add me in game and make sure you tick Watch List, it will send you a notification when I am online. Till then fly safe and hope to talk to you soon! (And get you in one my fleets and kill peoples!) P.S. If you want we can go gank the guy who messaged you! :D Hi Ace, I didn't think anyone would reply lol. I'm happy to meet someone that is from Australia too! I am Queensland time but I will get into the game when I finish work. I will need to find out what DT, Team speak, Spectre, pvp, pve all mean. Oh and Gank. So I will get back to you once I have googled all of that :) I am not sure how to add people in the game yet or where my watch list is so I will work on that one too. DT: Down-time. Happens daily at 11:00 EVEtime (the clock in the lower left corner of your Neocom menu) - which happens to be GMT (the timezone Iceland is in). Teamspeak: 3rd party VoIP program that let's you talk to people instead of text chat. Essential in some cases in EVE, for instance PvP. Telling someone to shoot something is easier and quicker then to type it out. Spectre: One of the many public fleets in EVE. They do PvP fleets very often. Check them out if PvP is something you like. Also a nice starter for PvP as a new players are: Agony Unleashed classes or the Newbro roams hosted by Redemption Road. PvP: Player vs Player. In general people mean PvP as in ship vs ship combat. But PvP in EVE comes in many forms. If you are a trader, you are directly competing with other players, so even the market is a form of PvP. PvE: Player vs Enviroment. So anything where you are fighting "the game". Missions for instance let's you fight computer A.I. and not other players (directly). Mining makes you shoot asteroids instead of players. Gank: Short explaination (as I guess there already will be others that explained it even further), a form of PvP. You take your combat ship and (usually quickly) kill a player who isn't set up for PvP. Happens most often / only in high-sec. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club

J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6314	Posted - 2016.02.17 21:10:55 - [51] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: ergherhdfgh wrote: DT = Down time. It's when CCP shuts down the game for about 15 minutes or so every day at I think 11:00 am GMT without using DST. GMT is Greenwich mean time also know as UTC. Team speak is an audio chat app for groups. It is used in MMOs alot for coordinating group efforts. Like fleet ops in this game or raids in other games or battlefields etc... anything where groups of people need to operate and have "comms" while playing. Spectre fleet is an NPSI (Not Purple Shoot It ) group that does public roams and shoots anyone not in fleet. Gank just means you are going to go blow up the guy that said that to you regardless of what concord thinks about the interaction. Hello, ok so I need to know this game like you do! lol I don't think I can use Team speak then because I don't have a phone that uses apps? Spectre people are the bad guys in the game then? Ok I understand Gank now but I don't know his name any more and I would feel bad if we killed his ship though. From what I have read it takes lots to get good ships and stuff and I will just ignore those people so it's ok :) Teamspeak is not a phone app. It's a program you install on your PC (though there is a smartphone app too for it). In EVE, there is no good and bad. Each player is given a sandbox (EVE) and tools (your imagination), now go out and play. Some people will hate other people (Grrr Goons, Grrr CODE., Grrr Russians, Grrr [insert name of player / corp / alliance / community] ) while others like them and the other way around. It depends who you fly with, what you like to do etc. on who you will class as a "bad guy" and a "good guy". Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6314	Posted - 2016.02.17 21:13:34 - [52] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Ok I think I am kind of getting some of this now lol. I don't mean to be rude but I cant reply to all of the posts on here as I am not fast on the keyboard and lots of people are on here I think. I don't want to come across as a "*damsel in distress" or waste anyone's time. I'm really sorry If I offended you or if I am being a troller. I am just trying to find a way to understand the game. This seems like an easy way which goes well with my lazy personality lol. Ooh, if you were "her". I would have shot you here and now. The amount of times I had to safe that ** from getting into trouble again and again at that stripclub. p.s. There is a mission in EVE called Damsel in distress. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club**
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6314	Posted - 2016.02.17 21:16:47 - [53] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: You are not bothering anyone or being a troll if you are being strait up with everyone. I think what people mean by claiming that you might be a troll is hinting that you might be a man IRL ( in real life ) that has been gaming online for decades. LIke yours truely <====== Ooh, the first time I spoke on comms (voice chat - Teamspeak/Ventrillo/Mumble). You should have heard the reactions from the group there, my voice does NOT compute with the avatar in EVE Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6314	Posted - 2016.02.17 21:20:27 - [54] - Quote Ace Lapointe wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Ok I think I am kind of getting some of this now lol. I don't mean to be rude but I cant reply to all of the posts on here as I am not fast on the keyboard and lots of people are on here I think. I don't want to come across as a "damsel in distress" or waste anyone's time. I'm really sorry If I offended you or if I am being a troller. I am just trying to find a way to understand the game. This seems like an easy way which goes well with my lazy personality lol. It's just an EVE thing, you will start seeing it after a bit, don't worry about it, people thought I was a troll when I first started, it happens to a lot of people, if you know to much about the game (I read up for months before I started, so I new a bit for a newbie), people who don't know anything at all, just takes time, you will do fine, just focus on learning the game, and having fun, and don't listen to the negative, and you will be fine :) Oh, reminds me, are you NT side of QLD? Or the East Coast? Just trying to work out when I have to get dinner cooked by, haha! @Tiffany: Just a friendly reminder, this game is SO big, nobody will have perfect knowledge about everything. I (if I can judge myself) have a decent amount of knowledge about a couple of things, but there are many things that I do not know. Don't ask me anything about probing or wormholes, I tried that when I started, didn't like it and thus never experienced it or gained knowledge about how that works. And even I, after 5.5 years, will still learn new things every time and even if you finally understand something, CCP will likely change the game mechanics and you are back at square 1. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6314	Posted - 2016.02.17 21:21:20 - [55] - Quote Azda Ja wrote: People in my default corp thought I was trying to scam/get them killed when I first started. Don't let it get to you, there's a lot of great people in this game. Welcome to New Eden! Azda, you are a scammer Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6314	Posted - 2016.02.17 21:24:35 - [56] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: sol, that you? If it is Sol Kudos to him. He really got us all. But I doubt this is troll bait, though yeah, some answers did make my spideysenses go off. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.02.17 23:40:16 - [57] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Hani Tian wrote: What made you play eve? Tiffany Hope wrote: Well it wasn't really my choice. You disclosed your address readily enough, but are evasive about reasons you're playing? That's a bit odd. I didn't mean to give away my address? I was told not to give away my address? How do I take it down? By not my choice I meant a friend of mine basically made me try it after she reminded me I promised I would. There is a running joke that I am not good with social situations. Someone had the bright idea of making me try an online video game because I am also not technical. My guess is this is the hardest game they could think of with the most social stuff involved?
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1170	Posted - 2016.02.18 00:01:59 - [58] - Quote J'Poll wrote: Ooh, if you were "her". I would have shot you here and now. The amount of times I had to safe that ***** from getting into trouble again and again at that stripclub. So I'm not the only one that feels this way?
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 740	Posted - 2016.02.18 00:07:12 - [59] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I didn't mean to give away my address? I was told not to give away my address? How do I take it down? By not my choice I meant a friend of mine basically made me try it after she reminded me I promised I would. There is a running joke that I am not good with social situations. Someone had the bright idea of making me try an online video game because I am also not technical. My guess is this is the hardest game they could think of with the most social stuff involved? probably. lol. Ok, to edit a post, you can go back to it, on page one, there is an "Edit" button next to the quote. Click that, then backspace through whatever you don't want to say. As a forum courtesy, it is nice to put an "edit note" at the bottom, especially after you have already been replied to. This helps new readers who might be confused when followup posts refer to something that you said, that they didn't see in your post. This is why, usually you don't want to edit a post someone replied to. Also, editing your post doesn't edit the reply quote in someone else's post. Example edit note: edit - grammar and math fixes. Anything you say online stays there forever. So someone can shift through your lifetime of posts and usually build a pretty accurate profile. Of course linking character names, and forum nicknames shouldn't be possible. But I was rudely surprised by someone I knew and hadn't spoken to in 20 years when he tracked me down to a public forum. One which I never used my name or private info. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.02.18 00:09:41 - [60] - Quote J'Poll wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: sol, that you? If it is Sol Kudos to him. He really got us all. But I doubt this is troll bait, though yeah, some answers did make my spideysenses go off. And as said by Shah... Benefit of the doubt here, it IS possible (after all EVE was my first true MMO I played). And if not, it might benefit that true new player that comes across the thread and reads the posts. Ok so now that I understand a bit more (thanks to Ace Lapointe who helped my on Teamspeakers last night). I gather Sol is a person and this person is a troller? Also I have been referred to as a few different things in my life but troll bait is a new one, I still don't quite get that one if someone wants to explain it. Did I do something wrong?

ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1170	Posted - 2016.02.18 00:11:31 - [61] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Memphis Baas wrote: Hani Tian wrote: What made you play eve? Tiffany Hope wrote: Well it wasn't really my choice. You disclosed your address readily enough, but are evasive about reasons you're playing? That's a bit odd. I didn't mean to give away my address? I was told not to give away my address? How do I take it down? By not my choice I meant a friend of mine basically made me try it after she reminded me I promised I would. There is a running joke that I am not good with social situations. Someone had the bright idea of making me try an online video game because I am also not technical. My guess is this is the hardest game they could think of with the most social stuff involved? You are correct on this. However it makes no difference. It is a social game but it is a social game for non-social people. I believe that a much larger percentage of Eve players are IT types with aspergers. I mean that literally not figuratively and I include myself in those numbers. I guess that you could consider it a social hangout for anti-social types. Not that you have to be anti-social just that if you are socially awkward you will fit in fine here. OP (OP = Original Poster) I'm not in your timezone but I do get up for work probably a couple hours before you go to bed so if you eve-mail me questions I can try to log on and chat with you if you ever need help or feel stuck in something. However this is a forum alt so if you watch list me you will almost never see me log into this character unless you send an eve mail and I know to log over and chat with you.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1170	Posted - 2016.02.18 00:20:47 - [62] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I gather Sol is a person and this person is a troller? Also I have been referred to as a few different things in my life but troll bait is a new one, I still don't quite get that one if someone wants to explain it. Did I do something wrong? You did nothing wrong. In this situation specifically if you were posting troll bait you would be a man in real life and also had been playing online games and posting on gaming forums for years. You would then come here and pretend to be a female who has never gamed before just to watch all the men fall for the trick. That would be a troll bait post. And we would be the people falling prey to the bait by trying to help someone that we general thought needed our help when you were in actuality just a troll. If you are actually a female and actually new to gaming then you most certainly are not a troll and just who you say you are. To explain it more simply to be a troll you would have to be misrepresenting yourself. If you are being honest you are not a troll and no one is accusing you of being one. They are just saying that if you are not who you say you are then you would be one. We probably only say that to preemptively save face on the off chance that you are a troll in hind sight we can at least say "I knew it" so we don't feel like fools.
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 740	Posted - 2016.02.18 00:21:24 - [63] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: J'Poll wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: sol, that you? If it is Sol Kudos to him. He really got us all. But I doubt this is troll bait, though yeah, some answers did make my spideysenses go off. And as said by Shah... Benefit of the doubt here, it IS possible (after all EVE was my first true MMO I played). And if not, it might benefit that true new player that comes across the thread and reads the posts. Ok so now that I understand a bit more (thanks to Ace Lapointe who helped my on Teamspeakers last night). I gather Sol is a person and this person is a troller? Also I have been referred to as a few different things in my life but troll bait is a new one, I still don't quite get that one if someone wants to explain it. Did I do something wrong? Don't worry. Sol is cool too, but she likes to have fun and she will degenerate a thread quickly. If you are good, don't worry about people's suspicions you might not be. We'll give you the benefit of the doubt, people are just expressing that they have doubts because this is Eve, and we've been getting lots of trolls lately in NQ&A and it's got us a bit sensitive. Trust me, if there is one truth of the EVE forums, it is, "If you do something wrong, people will tell you in no uncertain terms." Repeatedly, and often interspersed with insults of varying relevance and imagination. So don't worry about what you "might" have offended someone or "might" have done something wrong. If you read the other threads you'll see the regulars come down hard on someone giving out bad info or acting inappropriate for NQ&A. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.02.18 00:28:44 - [64] - Quote Iria Ahrens wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: I didn't mean to give away my address? I was told not to give away my address? How do I take it down? By not my choice I meant a friend of mine basically made me try it after she reminded me I promised I would. There is a running joke that I am not good with social situations. Someone had the bright idea of making me try an online video game because I am also not technical. My guess is this is the hardest game they could think of with the most social stuff involved? probably. lol. Ok, to edit a post, you can go back to it, on page one, there is an "Edit" button next to the quote. Click that, then backspace through whatever you don't want to say. As a forum courtesy, it is nice to put an "edit note" at the bottom, especially after you have already been replied to. This helps new readers who might be confused when followup posts refer to something that you said, that they didn't see in your post. This is why, usually you don't want to edit a post someone replied to. Also, editing your post doesn't edit the reply quote in someone else's post. Example edit note: edit - grammar and math fixes. Anything you say online stays there forever. So someone can shift through your lifetime of posts and usually build a pretty accurate profile. Of course linking character names, and forum nicknames shouldn't be possible. But I was rudely surprised by someone I knew and hadn't spoken to in 20 years when he tracked me down to a public forum. One which I never used my name or private info. I cant see my address anywhere :( I don't know what to delete :(
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1170	Posted - 2016.02.18 00:34:43 - [65] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I cant see my address anywhere :( I don't know what to delete :( I've read every post on this thread I do not recall you having posted your address. You did mention the town or at least get people familiar with the area a reference withing several miles of where you live but I think he was using a minor bit of artistic license in there. I believe a more accurate statement would have been that you have no problems giving the details about the general area in which you live but you were stingy with details on why you played the game. I don't think that you've gone too far in giving details. I just think someone here was trying to help you remain cautious and not get too much more specific.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.02.18 00:45:09 - [66] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: I cant see my address anywhere :( I don't know what to delete :( I've read every post on this thread I do not recall you having posted your address. You did mention the town or at least get people familiar with the area a reference withing several miles of where you live but I think he was using a minor bit of artistic license in there. I believe a more accurate statement would have been that you have no problems giving the details about the general area in which you live but you were stingy with details on why you played the game. I don't think that you've gone too far in giving details. I just think someone here was trying to help you remain cautious and not get too much more specific. Can I delete what I put down? So when I reply to what people say everyone else on here can see it too? I was told it wouldn't matter who I was or anything but I don't want to be called a troll :(
Cara Forelli Meticulously Indifferent 1605	Posted - 2016.02.18 00:52:38 - [67] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: social engineering Not empty quoting so I can claim "I told you so" later. Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament
gfldex 739	Posted - 2016.02.18 01:14:29 - [68] - Quote Iria Ahrens wrote: Ok, to edit a post, you can go back to it, on page one, there is an "Edit" button next to the quote. Click that, then backspace through whatever you don't want to say. I have to object to Iras good advice as it is futile. It is good advice indeed as a member of a well known alliance and former EVE player had to learn. Somebody, who likely played EVE too, wrote a latter to his employer (a gaming company that is not CCP Games) with wild allegations. He was able to clear his name but quit EVE because he didn't want to risk his job. If he would have cloaked his identity, he might still enjoy playing EVE to this very day. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14193	Posted - 2016.02.18 01:38:37 - [69] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Did I do something wrong? no, nothing at all. i have a feeling you will be just fine here Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1172	Posted - 2016.02.18 01:54:05 - [70] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Can I delete what I put down? You can. But like was said already anyone that has quoted it will still show the original text. Tiffany Hope wrote: So when I reply to what people say everyone else on here can see it too? Yes this is a forum thread. Everything posted here is public. If you want a private conversation with someone you need to start a private conversation either with a direct chat in game or in a channel that only the two of you are in or via an in game mail or out of game mail or some other form of communication where it is just the two of you. Tiffany Hope wrote: I was told it wouldn't matter who I was or anything but I don't want to be called a troll :( It dose not matter who you are but if you care that much what other people think of you and you are that thinned skinned you will have a tough time with this game. Yes people have accused you of being a troll but if you are not one then why would you care? Even if you were one why would you care? I would venture to say that in life you need to have a little more confidence in yourself than that but certainly in this game you do. There are people in this game that will extract tears just for laughs. There are people in this game that will call you names and ridicule you not because they mean it but just to get into your head and defeat you before the shooting even starts. You seem like a nice person but this is a game for aspiring scoundrels. That does not mean that you have to be an aspiring scoundrel but you need to know that this game is rife with them. TL;dr have a little more self confidence in yourself and learn to tell others to suck it.

Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.02.18 02:06:02 - [71] - Quote Its not in me to be mean or loud or anything lol. So hopefully I just meet nice people. I can just ignore the mean ones I guess. This is the most out there, crazy and social thing I've done since I was only little. Sorry. I'm not big and tough that's why I don't do social things lol. This is a big step for me :) I learnt in here in the game there are lots of mean people but it only takes one nice person to tell the rest to go away and its all good again :) I know if it gets too much I can just leave but, if I'm honest, this game is kind of fun and once I learn how to change the paint on my ship and get one that doesn't look like a giant mushroom or bug and can go and do stuff it will get better :)
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1172	Posted - 2016.02.18 02:17:20 - [72] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: this game is kind of fun and once I learn how to change the paint on my ship and get one that doesn't look like a giant mushroom or bug and can go and do stuff it will get better :) They are called ship skins. I've never used them but there is a section in the market for them and I think you can preview them in ship fitting and maybe even in the show info screen. I'm not sure as I don't use skins. I noticed you ask this question before and was hoping someone who knew more than me would chime in. If you can't figure it out let me know and I'll jump in a chat with you and help you figure it out.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.02.18 02:21:57 - [73] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: this game is kind of fun and once I learn how to change the paint on my ship and get one that doesn't look like a giant mushroom or bug and can go and do stuff it will get better :) They are called ship skins. I've never used them but there is a section in the market for them and I think you can preview them in ship fitting and maybe even in the show info screen. I'm not sure as I don't use skins. I noticed you ask this question before and was hoping someone who knew more than me would chime in. If you can't figure it out let me know and I'll jump in a chat with you and help you figure it out. Yeah I think you have a couple of options for like Gold or grey or whatever but I was going more for obnoxious pink or overly-happy lemon lol. I've noticed that everything is quite dark in this game, almost gothic a lot of the times. I just wanted to bring some colour and brightness to it lol.
Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 56	Posted - 2016.02.18 02:24:35 - [74] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: ergherhdfgh wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: this game is kind of fun and once I learn how to change the paint on my ship and get one that doesn't look like a giant mushroom or bug and can go and do stuff it will get better :) They are called ship skins. I've never used them but there is a section in the market for them and I think you can preview them in ship fitting and maybe even in the show info screen. I'm not sure as I don't use skins. I noticed you ask this question before and was hoping someone who knew more than me would chime in. If you can't figure it out let me know and I'll jump in a chat with you and help you figure it out. Yeah I think you have a couple of options for like Gold or grey or whatever but I was going more for obnoxious pink or overly-happy lemon lol. I've noticed that everything is quite dark in this game, almost gothic a lot of the times. I just wanted to bring some colour and brightness to it lol. Oh, I forgot to show you last night, I will show you something tonight, will blow your mind!
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1172	Posted - 2016.02.18 02:26:53 - [75] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Its not in me to be mean or loud or anything lol. So hopefully I just meet nice people. I can just ignore the mean ones I guess. This is the most out there, crazy and social thing I've done since I was only little. Sorry. I'm not big and tough that's why I don't do social things lol. This is a big step for me :) You have nothing to apologize for and I am not asking you to be big our tough or mean or anything. I simply suggested that it might benefit you to be a little more confident in yourself. Refusing to apologize when you've done nothing wrong is not mean, it's just being honest. When you apologize when you know you've done nothing wrong that is dishonest because you are not really sorry since you have done nothing to be sorry of. Again there's nothing wrong with anything that you have done. As best as I can tell you've not offended anyone here. I'm just saying that the honest self-loving thing to do is speak your truth and be proud of who your are regardless of who that is. Who ever you are today, tomorrow you will be a better you and the tomorrow you can easily look back on the yesterday you and call it inferior but that would be a diservice because in every moment you are just being the best you that you can be and in every moment it's a little better than the moment before.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2016.02.18 02:46:38 - [76] - Quote ok I will take your advice on board, thank you :) No promise son the confidence thing though sorry.
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 741	Posted - 2016.02.18 02:46:53 - [77] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Yeah I think you have a couple of options for like Gold or grey or whatever but I was going more for obnoxious pink or overly-happy lemon lol. I've noticed that everything is quite dark in this game, almost gothic a lot of the times. I just wanted to bring some colour and brightness to it lol. Well, there is no ability to chose your own colors, but you can choose predesigned skins, most ships have at least two to choose from, but it costs real money, or a lot of isk to buy the skins. Amarr have the shiniest happiest ships. At least on the outside, the slaves I haul around never seemed that enthusiastic, maybe I need to whip them more. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2016.02.18 02:51:48 - [78] - Quote Iria Ahrens wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Yeah I think you have a couple of options for like Gold or grey or whatever but I was going more for obnoxious pink or overly-happy lemon lol. I've noticed that everything is quite dark in this game, almost gothic a lot of the times. I just wanted to bring some colour and brightness to it lol. Well, there is no ability to chose your own colors, but you can choose predesigned skins, most ships have at least two to choose from, but it costs real money, or a lot of isk to buy the skins. Amarr have the shiniest happiest ships. At least on the outside, the slaves I haul around never seemed that enthusiastic, maybe I need to whip them more. I'm not sure what you mean. Do you really get slaves in this game? That's really not nice :( I would totally pay the money though if I could get the skin Ace showed me yesterday!
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1173	Posted - 2016.02.18 02:58:20 - [79] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: No promise son the confidence thing though sorry. I did not ask you to promise me anything. However your apologizing here in this context I will take as you telling me that you won't be told to not be you which in my head I will chalk up as a win. Have fun and fly wreckless ( that does not mean without producing wrecks but meant as a complete disregard for safety ) and once again if you have questions let me know, probably in an in game mail but I'll likely check this thread again tomorrow.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1173	Posted - 2016.02.18 03:04:24 - [80] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I'm not sure what you mean. Do you really get slaves in this game? That's really not nice :( I would totally pay the money though if I could get the skin Ace showed me yesterday! The Amarr are slave lords and the Minmatar are escaped slaves of the Amarr. As a Gallente who's faction is aligned with the Minmatar it is fitting that you are displeased with the Amarr having slaves. Now the fitting thing for any well balanced Eve player to do with that knowledge is join faction warfare and spill the blood, in little frozen droplets, of as many of us Amarr slave lords as you can. Make us pay for our transgressions with internet space ship violence.

Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 742	Posted - 2016.02.18 03:33:01 - [81] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I'm not sure what you mean. Do you really get slaves in this game? That's really not nice :( There are slaves that can be purchased on the market. There are also exotic dancers: Male and Female that some players like to carry so it shows on their killmail. Like I said earlier. This game attempts to create a harsh frontier world where the only law is the one you create. Everything in the game creates an incentive for conflict. If the mechanics of the game are not enough, there are Roleplay excuses to fight as well. (I like to roleplay an Amarr Slave Trader) Amarr are the largest faction and we became so by reclaiming each civilization we came across. Minmatar are in a state of rebellion, but we will reclaim them eventually--again. Caldari is a civilization based on corporate rule, so they chose to ally with the Amarr because a business is all about being on the winning side. Gallante is supposed to be a democratic civilization so they shouldn't have a problem with Amarr enslaving the Minmatar, really. After all, we outnumber them so it's already settled democratically. I can only conclude that Gallante are confused. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2016.02.18 04:41:03 - [82] - Quote oh gosh that's not very nice :( Glad I am not a slave person then! There is so much to all of this. Is there like a book or something on how it all became like this? I still think its too dark and sad. I think Eve would benefit from a redecoration. I could bring some colour to it :)
Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 56	Posted - 2016.02.18 04:42:55 - [83] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: oh gosh that's not very nice :( Glad I am not a slave person then! There is so much to all of this. Is there like a book or something on how it all became like this? I still think its too dark and sad. I think Eve would benefit from a redecoration. I could bring some colour to it :) In that guide i told you about there is some backstory to each of the 4 races.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2016.02.18 04:46:05 - [84] - Quote Ace Lapointe wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: oh gosh that's not very nice :( Glad I am not a slave person then! There is so much to all of this. Is there like a book or something on how it all became like this? I still think its too dark and sad. I think Eve would benefit from a redecoration. I could bring some colour to it :) In that guide i told you about there is some backstory to each of the 4 races. I lost it lol. What was it called again?
Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 56	Posted - 2016.02.18 04:57:58 - [85] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Ace Lapointe wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: oh gosh that's not very nice :( Glad I am not a slave person then! There is so much to all of this. Is there like a book or something on how it all became like this? I still think its too dark and sad. I think Eve would benefit from a redecoration. I could bring some colour to it :) In that guide i told you about there is some backstory to each of the 4 races. I lost it lol. What was it called again? The ISK Guide
gfldex 739	Posted - 2016.02.18 07:57:05 - [86] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Is there like a book or something on how it all became like this? yes, If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Arkoth 24 Phayder 52	Posted - 2016.02.18 08:33:33 - [87] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Hello. My name is Tiffany. ...and 5 pages in 24 hours. Telling that you're girl is the best way in New Eden to get help, money, and - sad to say - a lot of attention from lonely loosers.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2016.02.18 09:27:39 - [88] - Quote Arkoth 24 wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Hello. My name is Tiffany. ...and 5 pages in 24 hours. Telling that you're girl is the best way in New Eden to get help, money, and - sad to say - a lot of attention from lonely loosers. It's "losers". I may not have the greatest grammar either but please, make sure if you are going to be insulting, you at least spell your words correctly. Attention? I've been accused of being a troller or something, I've been told not to play, to try a different game and to pay no attention to the many people that apparently populate these sites with nothing better to do that leave unconstructive comments on peoples chat pages (or whatever these are called). Help? Yes someone has helped me find a way to paint my ship, hardly making me win the game though wouldn't you agree? money? no sorry, still as broke as I was 2 days ago and losers? No sorry, I've met a couple of nice people who said welcome and shared a few words of encouragement regarding a video game that is harder to get a grip of than brain surgery. People that have been polite and kind but I haven't met any losers sorry.
Arkoth 24 Phayder 52	Posted - 2016.02.18 10:04:08 - [89] - Quote This is not 'bout you, so there's no need for so zealous answer, nor for your story in new Eden, nor for the story of your life, nor even to point on my missclicks as an argument (though my Engrish is really poor and it's not a big secret). I care 'bout nothing of these and so 'bout your gender. This is just my destructive comment on how this polite and kind community reacts to females (fake or not - who cares).
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2016.02.18 10:11:35 - [90] - Quote I'm sorry you see it that way :(

Arkoth 24 Phayder 52	Posted - 2016.02.18 10:13:09 - [91] - Quote Yeap. Me too.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1174	Posted - 2016.02.18 11:37:58 - [92] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: People that have been polite and kind but I haven't met any losers sorry. Well you just met Arkoth. I don't know anything about Arkoth but according to his own comments even he is sorry to be him: Tiffany Hope wrote: I'm sorry you see it that way :( then: Arkoth 24 wrote: Yeap. Me too. If I read inbetween the lines on his posts it seems he's calling himself a loser and then letting you know that he's not happy with that assesment. Arkoth 24 wrote: This is not 'bout you, so there's no need for so zealous answer, nor for your story in new Eden, nor for the story of your life, nor even to point on my missclicks as an argument (though my Engrish is really poor and it's not a big secret). I care 'bout nothing of these and so 'bout your gender. This is just my destructive comment on how this polite and kind community reacts to females (fake or not - who cares). Arkoth there is nothing that obliges you to post here. I don't recall having seen your posts here in the NC Q&A before. You are accusing other's that are in here day after day helping out new bros and sises, regardless of who they are, of only helping this one in particular because she is a girl and you don't post in here except on this one. I'd say that you are the one only paying attention to the OP because she's a girl. Check the NC Q&A history. Pretty much every other poster on this thread is in here day after day helping new bros. Is this post longer than most? Yes. Did it grow fast? Yes. However the OP is brand new to gaming and has a lot of basic questions and needs a lot more help than the average player coming from some other game that has a background in both gaming and forum posting. Aside from yourself Arkoth every other poster here has gone out of their way to create text walls and threadnaughts to help hundreds if not thousands of new bros. Before your accusations can hold any water you need to reconcile that. Also worth noting is that the posters here will turn on a dime if the OP becomes presumptive or ingrateful. This OP has been appreciative which is a big part of why we are so happy to help. Does the fact that she has estrogen flowing through her body make her more likely to express gratitude and less likely to be a ****? Probably. However regardless of if the OP stands up to pee or sits down I will help any newbro or sis that needs it and shows some type of appreciation or gratitude. One further note Arkoth. This is the OP's thread so yes this thread is about her. Who it is not about is you and you seem to be trying to hijack this thread to get yourself some attention. Again this is the thread is the OP's thread you can be helpful to the OP or other newbros reading this thread or you can go create your own thread if you have question or go troll over in GD. However here in the NC Q&A we try to be helpful or remain silent.
Memphis Baas 1141	Posted - 2016.02.18 12:39:20 - [93] - Quote Arkoth 24 wrote: ...and 5 pages in 24 hours. Telling that you're girl is the best way in New Eden to get help, money, and - sad to say - a lot of attention from lonely loosers. I know you want very much to draw this conclusion, but unfortunately the data doesn't support it: - The Newbie Q & A forum has plenty of threads that reach 4-5 pages, just look at the first 3 index pages and you'll see several. - This is not 5 pages of answers to 1 question; she keeps asking questions and we keep answering. - Compare any other 4-5 page thread with this one, and you'll see that the usual people who answer questions in Newbie Q & A are replying. Thus, we're not doing anything differently than before; we're answering questions in a subforum designed for answering questions. - None of the replies in this thread are attempts to hit on her; they're just answers to the questions, or comments that she may be a troll. So you just called all of us lonely losers for no reason. I think you should apologize.
Memphis Baas 1141	Posted - 2016.02.18 12:56:53 - [94] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I didn't mean to give away my address? I was told not to give away my address? How do I take it down? You didn't give away your exact address, and I was trying to provoke a reaction to see how you'd reply. We're always suspicious in this game, because it does allow scamming and thieves and trolls. In any case, if this is an experiment by your RL friend to see if you'll succeed, then you have to set some goals in the game, and prove that you can achieve them. Pick a ship to be able to fly, make a certain amount of ISK, join a PVP corp. and participate in their organized fights, etc. If you're interested in the lore of the EVE universe, here it is. Click the menus and links on that page for lots of lore stories published by CCP.
Avvy Republic University Minmatar Republic 338	Posted - 2016.02.18 13:41:22 - [95] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I'm sorry you see it that way :( You shouldn't take much notice, take most of the comments with a pinch of salt just look for the useful information. There are a few creepy guys on the internet that could pester you, they'll most likely whisper you so if they do just put them on ignore. There's also those that will just think you are a guy pretending to be a girl, again don't take any notice. Is EVE a girls game, depends on the girl but I don't see why not. Anyway welcome to EVE.
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6325	Posted - 2016.02.18 17:39:47 - [96] - Quote Iria Ahrens wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: J'Poll wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: sol, that you? If it is Sol Kudos to him. He really got us all. But I doubt this is troll bait, though yeah, some answers did make my spideysenses go off. And as said by Shah... Benefit of the doubt here, it IS possible (after all EVE was my first true MMO I played). And if not, it might benefit that true new player that comes across the thread and reads the posts. Ok so now that I understand a bit more (thanks to Ace Lapointe who helped my on Teamspeakers last night). I gather Sol is a person and this person is a troller? Also I have been referred to as a few different things in my life but troll bait is a new one, I still don't quite get that one if someone wants to explain it. Did I do something wrong? Don't worry. Sol is cool too, but she likes to have fun and she will degenerate a thread quickly. If you are good, don't worry about people's suspicions you might not be. We'll give you the benefit of the doubt, people are just expressing that they have doubts because this is Eve, and we've been getting lots of trolls lately in NQ&A and it's got us a bit sensitive. Trust me, if there is one truth of the EVE forums, it is, "If you do something wrong, people will tell you in no uncertain terms." Repeatedly, and often interspersed with insults of varying relevance and imagination. So don't worry about what you "might" have offended someone or "might" have done something wrong. If you read the other threads you'll see the regulars come down hard on someone giving out bad info or acting inappropriate for NQ&A. You are talking about my usual posting behaviour aren't you??? Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6325	Posted - 2016.02.18 17:45:38 - [97] - Quote Arkoth 24 wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Hello. My name is Tiffany. ...and 5 pages in 24 hours. Telling that you're girl is the best way in New Eden to get help, money, and - sad to say - a lot of attention from lonely loosers. We should tighten up what is loose. Or did you mean losers, you loser Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6325	Posted - 2016.02.18 17:57:00 - [98] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: People that have been polite and kind but I haven't met any losers sorry. Well you just met Arkoth. I don't know anything about Arkoth but according to his own comments even he is sorry to be him: Tiffany Hope wrote: I'm sorry you see it that way :( then: Arkoth 24 wrote: Yeap. Me too. If I read inbetween the lines on his posts it seems he's calling himself a loser and then letting you know that he's not happy with that assesment. Arkoth 24 wrote: This is not 'bout you, so there's no need for so zealous answer, nor for your story in new Eden, nor for the story of your life, nor even to point on my missclicks as an argument (though my Engrish is really poor and it's not a big secret). I care 'bout nothing of these and so 'bout your gender. This is just my destructive comment on how this polite and kind community reacts to females (fake or not - who cares). Arkoth there is nothing that obliges you to post here. I don't recall having seen your posts here in the NC Q&A before. You are accusing other's that are in here day after day helping out new bros and sises, regardless of who they are, of only helping this one in particular because she is a girl and you don't post in here except on this one. I'd say that you are the one only paying attention to the OP because she's a girl. Check the NC Q&A history. Pretty much every other poster on this thread is in here day after day helping new bros. Is this post longer than most? Yes. Did it grow fast? Yes. However the OP is brand new to gaming and has a lot of basic questions and needs a lot more help than the average player coming from some other game that has a background in both gaming and forum posting. Aside from yourself Arkoth every other poster here has gone out of their way to create text walls and threadnaughts to help hundreds if not thousands of new bros. Before your accusations can hold any water you need to reconcile that. Also worth noting is that the posters here will turn on a dime if the OP becomes presumptive or ingrateful. This OP has been appreciative which is a big part of why we are so happy to help. Does the fact that she has estrogen flowing through her body make her more likely to express gratitude and less likely to be a **? Probably. However regardless of if the OP stands up to pee or sits down I will help any newbro or sis that needs it and shows some type of appreciation or gratitude. One further note Arkoth. This is the OP's thread so yes this thread is about her. Who it is not about is you and you seem to be trying to hijack this thread to get yourself some attention. Again this is the thread is the OP's thread you can be helpful to the OP or other newbros reading this thread or you can go create your own thread if you have question or go troll over in GD. However here in the NC Q&A we try to be helpful or remain silent. Amen sister. Also Arkoth, keeo in mind. The pen is more powerful then the sword. And we regulars like write Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club**
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6325	Posted - 2016.02.18 17:59:13 - [99] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Arkoth 24 wrote: ...and 5 pages in 24 hours. Telling that you're girl is the best way in New Eden to get help, money, and - sad to say - a lot of attention from lonely loosers. I know you want very much to draw this conclusion, but unfortunately the data doesn't support it: - The Newbie Q & A forum has plenty of threads that reach 4-5 pages, just look at the first 3 index pages and you'll see several. - This is not 5 pages of answers to 1 question; she keeps asking questions and we keep answering. - Compare any other 4-5 page thread with this one, and you'll see that the usual people who answer questions in Newbie Q & A are replying. Thus, we're not doing anything differently than before; we're answering questions in a subforum designed for answering questions. - None of the replies in this thread are attempts to hit on her; they're just answers to the questions, or comments that she may be a troll. So you just called all of us lonely losers for no reason. I think you should apologize. But, technically we are lonely losers. After all, we play EVE But that aside his comment was just stupid, with bad grammar (still looking which of the bolts is loose Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 25950	Posted - 2016.02.18 21:33:34 - [100] - Quote J'Poll wrote: Sol isnt a bad person or a troll. Sol is Sol, (s)he is just a fun person to have around on the forum. Serious when needed, always in for a laugh when possible. Couple of years, Sol among others derailed a complain thread by someone by posting cat-gif for multiple pages. If it's the thread I'm thinking of... Guilty as charged Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.

Arkoth 24 Phayder 52	Posted - 2016.02.19 16:21:05 - [101] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: another wall of bullshit Just no.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1175	Posted - 2016.02.19 21:04:40 - [102] - Quote Arkoth 24 wrote: ergherhdfgh wrote: another wall of bullshit Just no. First off I never said what you have me in quotes as saying. So if you want to call bullshit on someone call it on yourself since that is precisely what you have posted there. Also what I posted you can double check for yourself you don't have to take my word on it. Your reply can be proven to be based on assumptions rather than fact simply by look back at the past couple of pages of posts. Most of the comments that I made about you directly were just reading back what you posted or pointing out that you are the only one posting in this thread that does not regularly post in other threads. You are also the only one not being helpful. So to that I say just yes.
gfldex 739	Posted - 2016.02.19 21:28:36 - [103] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Help? (...) money? no sorry, still as broke as I was 2 days ago I took the liberty to prove you wrong. I have to admit it's strangely satisfying to troll somebody by being nice. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Memphis Baas 1153	Posted - 2016.02.20 01:09:33 - [104] - Quote There's very little chance that she'll continue past the trial account stage, this being a social experiment set by her friend or w/e.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1176	Posted - 2016.02.20 02:17:30 - [105] - Quote I help newbros for the sake of helping. If they don't make it past the trial that's not really my concern. I used to feel like it was wasted effort but know I realize that I am here for my own sake and not that of the OP. In other words I don't help because I want to help the OP. I help because I like helping.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2016.02.20 09:44:35 - [106] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: There's very little chance that she'll continue past the trial account stage, this being a social experiment set by her friend or w/e. i would like to thank everyone so much for all the help. i have learnt heaps like mining, jumpgates fitting my ship, not crying when your ship gets blown up lol and what i want to do in the game. i bought a subscription :) if it is ok with everyone i woukd like to hang around :)
Arkoth 24 Phayder 52	Posted - 2016.02.20 09:50:04 - [107] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: i bought a subscription :) I don't wanna stay in this cluster anylonger.
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6332	Posted - 2016.02.20 10:40:12 - [108] - Quote Arkoth 24 wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: i bought a subscription :) I don't wanna stay in this cluster anylonger. Good bye. Hope you will never return Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2016.02.20 11:01:27 - [109] - Quote Arkoth 24 wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: i bought a subscription :) I don't wanna stay in this cluster anylonger. does anyone know what asteroid I can mine a care factor from?
Azda Ja Meticulously Indifferent 4905	Posted - 2016.02.20 11:06:08 - [110] - Quote WTF happened here? Grrr.

ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1178	Posted - 2016.02.20 11:30:32 - [111] - Quote Azda Ja wrote: WTF happened here? I think that one young woman came into this game and started converting it to fluffy rainbow unicorn butterfly kitties in space. At least that's what I got out of all of this.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2016.02.20 11:33:14 - [112] - Quote Azda Ja wrote: WTF happened here? i got told to stick up for myself :(
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6333	Posted - 2016.02.20 11:34:25 - [113] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Arkoth 24 wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: i bought a subscription :) I don't wanna stay in this cluster anylonger. does anyone know what asteroid I can mine a care factor from? Tiffany just showed she is the perfect EVE player Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 1092	Posted - 2016.02.20 11:34:40 - [114] - Quote Welcome to EVE Tiffany. It's one of the best mmos out there, but requires more effort to get into than most. Iria Ahrens wrote: Anything you say online stays there forever. So someone can shift through your lifetime of posts and usually build a pretty accurate profile. Not neccessarily forever, but often for a long time. Let's see how long Chribbas archives stay online . Remove insurance.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2016.02.20 11:41:19 - [115] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: Azda Ja wrote: WTF happened here? I think that one young woman came into this game and started converting it to fluffy rainbow unicorn butterfly kitties in space. At least that's what I got out of all of this. basically yes lol. but come on, the game does need more colour!
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 1092	Posted - 2016.02.20 12:15:22 - [116] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Arkoth 24 wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: i bought a subscription :) I don't wanna stay in this cluster anylonger. does anyone know what asteroid I can mine a care factor from? And just to get a little deeper into Sol's history, he used to roam Hek and surroundings as flashy red Solstice Project, blowing up stuff. Later he sold his character in a Plex for Good campaign and became Solecist Project and started to blow up threads on the forums . Remove insurance.
Azda Ja Meticulously Indifferent 4907	Posted - 2016.02.20 12:32:22 - [117] - Quote J'Poll wrote: Azda, you are a scammer Lies and slander! Grrr.
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders 4306	Posted - 2016.02.20 13:11:43 - [118] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: ergherhdfgh wrote: Azda Ja wrote: WTF happened here? I think that one young woman came into this game and started converting it to fluffy rainbow unicorn butterfly kitties in space. At least that's what I got out of all of this. basically yes lol. but come on, the game does need more colour! In EVE you can also shoot fireworks at people, that's quite colorful. And snowballs, too! Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14214	Posted - 2016.02.20 13:35:17 - [119] - Quote Mara Pahrdi wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Arkoth 24 wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: i bought a subscription :) I don't wanna stay in this cluster anylonger. does anyone know what asteroid I can mine a care factor from? And just to get a little deeper into Sol's history, he used to roam Hek and surroundings as flashy red Solstice Project, blowing up stuff. Later he sold his character in a Plex for Good campaign and became Solecist Project and started to blow up threads on the forums . whilst currently inactive(?) ,sol still haunts the place and will show up from time to time, often with a new alias and frequently at the helm of some social engineering op. definitely one of my favorite personality's here sol would love this one , though the thread may have needed defusing were he present. I can usually spot him and his plays but im unnaturally paranoid (even for an eve player). as i said before, i think tiffany will be fine Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 6973	Posted - 2016.02.20 15:52:09 - [120] - Quote Welcome to EVE. As you can see, everyone here is a bit crazy. Good luck and happy hunting. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6339	Posted - 2016.02.20 16:28:26 - [121] - Quote ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote: Welcome to EVE. As you can see, everyone here is a bit crazy. Good luck and happy hunting. Also, never listen to Barstool Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 6976	Posted - 2016.02.20 17:30:22 - [122] - Quote J'Poll wrote: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote: Welcome to EVE. As you can see, everyone here is a bit crazy. Good luck and happy hunting. Also, never listen to Barstool Harrumph. Well excuuuuuuuuuuse me. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Annemariela Antonela Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out. 363	Posted - 2016.02.21 00:41:54 - [123] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Mara Pahrdi wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Arkoth 24 wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: i bought a subscription :) I don't wanna stay in this cluster anylonger. does anyone know what asteroid I can mine a care factor from? And just to get a little deeper into Sol's history, he used to roam Hek and surroundings as flashy red Solstice Project, blowing up stuff. Later he sold his character in a Plex for Good campaign and became Solecist Project and started to blow up threads on the forums . whilst currently inactive(?) ,sol still haunts the place and will show up from time to time, often with a new alias and frequently at the helm of some social engineering op. definitely one of my favorite personality's here sol would love this one , though the thread may have needed defusing were he present. I can usually spot him and his plays but im unnaturally paranoid (even for an eve player). as i said before, i think tiffany will be fine Sol is the cool cool-- come back through that revolving door, shexxay! GÇ£Culture is like a smog. To live within it, you must breathe some of it in and, inevitably, be contaminated.GÇ¥ GÇò Richard K. Morgan, Altered Carbon
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6342	Posted - 2016.02.21 02:28:33 - [124] - Quote Hi Sol [:D] I know you will read this Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.21 09:54:17 - [125] - Quote Would someone be able to help me? I have a grand plan but have no idea what I am doing. I think this game is better played with others. I am trying to choose a ship. I want something big but pretty that can do a little of everything I guess? I cant afford a carrier yet but I want to aim for one I think. In m races ship tree. I don't want a slave ship lol I don't know what to get :( or how to make enough monies lol.
Arkoth 24 Phayder 54	Posted - 2016.02.21 09:59:54 - [126] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I want something big but pretty that can do a little of everything Gnosis
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6343	Posted - 2016.02.21 10:17:59 - [127] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Would someone be able to help me? I have a grand plan but have no idea what I am doing. I think this game is better played with others. I am trying to choose a ship. I want something big but pretty that can do a little of everything I guess? I cant afford a carrier yet but I want to aim for one I think. In m races ship tree. I don't want a slave ship lol I don't know what to get :( or how to make enough monies lol. A couple of things: A. Bigger =/= Better B. Read the golden rules I wrote, a specialized ship >>> a jack-of-all-trades ship. Sorry, but a ship that can do a little bit of everything will suck at all those things. 1 ship = 1 job = 1 activity. If you want to PvP, grab a PvP ship. For missions grab a mission fitted ship. For mining, a miner etc. etc. C. A carrier might look like a nice ship, but you are far of from flying one as a new player. Minimum skills =/= the ability to properly fly it. And yes, EVE is best played with a group. So find yourself a group to fly with. Be it a community based group or an actual corporation that you join. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1180	Posted - 2016.02.21 12:30:50 - [128] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Would someone be able to help me? I have a grand plan but have no idea what I am doing. I think this game is better played with others. I am trying to choose a ship. I want something big but pretty that can do a little of everything I guess? I cant afford a carrier yet but I want to aim for one I think. In m races ship tree. I don't want a slave ship lol I don't know what to get :( or how to make enough monies lol. Ships are tools in this game. First you need to decide what job that you want to accomplish then you can figure out what ship would be good for that. Carriers can not be flown in high sec currently. Also they are big and slow. Further they have very little use outside of PvP. And they are getting revamped this summer or spring with an expansion set to change capital ships. I would focus more on learning the game. If you decide at somepoint that you'd like a carrier to do something with then get one. However I think once that you see how big and slow battleships are you might second guess flying a cap.
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6343	Posted - 2016.02.21 12:40:48 - [129] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Would someone be able to help me? I have a grand plan but have no idea what I am doing. I think this game is better played with others. I am trying to choose a ship. I want something big but pretty that can do a little of everything I guess? I cant afford a carrier yet but I want to aim for one I think. In m races ship tree. I don't want a slave ship lol I don't know what to get :( or how to make enough monies lol. Ships are tools in this game. First you need to decide what job that you want to accomplish then you can figure out what ship would be good for that. Carriers can not be flown in high sec currently. Also they are big and slow. Further they have very little use outside of PvP. And they are getting revamped this summer or spring with an expansion set to change capital ships. I would focus more on learning the game. If you decide at somepoint that you'd like a carrier to do something with then get one. However I think once that you see how big and slow battleships are you might second guess flying a cap. Not to mention that ANY capital is a fleet ship. A solo capital is just a nice juicy target if you don't have any back up to help you. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Memphis Baas 1159	Posted - 2016.02.21 14:58:22 - [130] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I am trying to choose a ship. I want something big but pretty that can do a little of everything I guess? In Minmatar races ship tree. I don't want a slave ship. Don't just pick a ship. Pick a progression of ships. There are some ships that are versatile, like the Rifter frigate, Rupture or Vexor cruisers, Dominix battleship, but they can't do "everything". They have evenly spread out slots (between high, medium, and low), so you can fit either armor or shield defenses, or PVP, or extra damage, and their weapon systems are versatile (drones, especially, as you can pick and choose what drones you use), but the name of the game is to min-max the ship bonuses to match your task. So you'll need: - An industrial transport ship, so you can move loot around. Most ships have 3-400 m3 space, specialized transports and freighters are the only ones that can get 10,000 - 50,000 - 300,000 m3 of space. - A number of combat ships; the bigger you go the slower they are and the more you have to rely on actual defenses (armor, shields) rather than being nimble. - Special purpose - scouts that can cloak (cov-ops frigates), ships with sensor and probing bonuses (so you can probe down and find exploration sites), mining ships (if you're into that). - PVP specific ships - electronic jamming, remote repair, interceptors, interdictors - depends on what the needs are for the group you're hanging out with. How to achieve it: Buy skills from the market and train them. Skills can be categorized as follows: - ship skills (in the Spaceship Command category) - unlock ships for you. - weapon skills (Gunnery, Missiles, Drones) - train the weapons for the ships you've chosen. Minmatar ships, for example, use projectile weapons (small, medium, or large to match the ship size), missiles, and the larger ships use some drones for defense against smaller ships. - support skills (Armor, Shields, Navigation, Targeting, Engineering, etc.) - these make all your ships perform better; clearly every ship will benefit from more armor, more shields, faster speed, more power, etc. - non-combat skills (Trade, Social, Corporation, Industry, Reprocessing, etc.) - train as needed, for the side activities you're interested in. Making money: Most of the player-vs-environment PVE can make you money. It's recommended you go find the career agents and do missions for them because they'll shower you with about 10 million ISK worth of ships and skills, as well as teach you the game a little. After that, you can do missions for cash and loot, you can explore (for hidden loot), you can lay down some Planetary Industry facilities (for product to sell for cash), you can mine (boring, don't do it), you can try your hand at trading (buy low sell high), or manufacture common things like ammo, missiles for sale. You can try to scam people, you can try to get them to give you gifts of money for ships (begging is an art form), you can infiltrate a corp and steal their stuff, or you can just join a newbie-friendly corp and they'll probably give you free stuff to get you started. You can also buy a PLEX with RL cash (from the EVE Account Management website) and sell it on the market in Jita (go to Jita first, then redeem it, don't travel with PLEX in your cargo), and that'll set you up for a long while. People do this because the activities in game become tedious and more like work after a while, and it's simply easier to just work a RL job and pay 20 EUR for a PLEX; it takes about a month of daily effort to make the equivalent 1 billion ISK through in-game activities. Slave ships: If you read through the lore here, you'll see that ships do have crews. But since the ships will be yours, you can (roleplay/pretend to) crew them with paid crewmembers rather than slaves, even the Amarr-manufactured ships.

Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 755	Posted - 2016.02.21 18:14:12 - [131] - Quote Yea. Even though I like to Roleplay an Amarr slaver. Lore wise Emperess Jamil outlawed slavery and was trying to make peace with Minmatar. Ships have crews, but they are strictly lore/rp. They have zero effect on gameplay because when you assemble the ship it is autocrewed. I think the sigil is the only ship with the flavor text saying something to the order of "use to be used as a slave ship" I like the sigil, so I sorta ran with the flavor text and made it a major part of my RP. Drone ships are the most flexible. I don't hyper-specialize like most players do, but I can say that there are too many roles that a ship can perform to be even mediocre at all of them. But a ship can sometimes be fit to perform two or three functions at an adequate level. Especially drone ships which can store multiple flights, and multiple types of drones. If flexibility is your thing, then I highly recommend drone ships, which Amarr and Gallante generally have most drone ships. A Carrier is a future goal, but a carrier is also a primary target. The number one rule of eve is don't fly what you can't afford to lose. So for now you'll be flying frigates and learning basic game mechanics. That way when you lose your frigates it won't hurt much. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2233	Posted - 2016.02.21 20:48:02 - [132] - Quote To reiterate an important point ... ships are just tools and expendables. What you do is, choose a task, profession you want to perform, and then select and skill for the suitable ship. There are some ships more versatile than others, which means they can be fitted in different ways efficiently to perform different tasks. Also it can be fun to fit a ship for something else than it is supposed to be used in order to surprise potential opponents. I'm my own NPC alt.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:06:03 - [133] - Quote coolies :) So I need to make money so I can fly big ships and afford to replace them if someone blows them up. I like the Gallente ships the most so I would like them. Just sad about the colour choices :( I know it doesn't affect the performance or anything but if the ship is a representation of me I want something nice lol. I am noticing there is a lot of politics in this game as well from what I've been reading. That's is going to be hard to understand. And then it seems all these different groups own all these different parts of space as well. And then there are these big wars. gosh. Why is everyone at war? So much going on lol. I have an idea for a cool alliance or whatever thye are called and I am now liking this video game lol. I think I'll stay :)
Memphis Baas 1163	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:18:53 - [134] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Why is everyone at war? Why is everyone manufacturing all these ships? Mining? Doing missions? Exploring? Planetary Interaction? Scamming people in Jita? Undocking their ships and flying around? Spinning their ships in station? It's a game. Here's a war, explained.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:41:09 - [135] - Quote no i mean like i read about fountain war but was wondering if there are others like that now?
Memphis Baas 1163	Posted - 2016.02.22 01:49:20 - [136] - Quote EVE News 24.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14247	Posted - 2016.02.22 03:02:39 - [137] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: EVE News 24. https://www.themittani.com As with media irl , Read both, they are equally biased so see where they coral ate (feckin smart phone) and use your own judgement on what you feel to be truth. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 757	Posted - 2016.02.22 09:35:00 - [138] - Quote mittani is biased, but it is also good reading :) My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6345	Posted - 2016.02.22 10:25:15 - [139] - Quote Iria Ahrens wrote: mittani is biased, but it is also good reading :) Every news site is biased. Specially in EVE. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Sabriz Adoudel Move along there is nothing here 5697	Posted - 2016.02.22 11:13:18 - [140] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Hello. My name is Tiffany. I am from Australia. I just started playing this video game (my first one ever!) and have been finding it very hard to understand. Someone told me I should put a post on here and introduce myself so here I am lol. Introducing myself. Hopefully there are some people out there that read this and play this as well that might be able to show me a few things or explain how everything works and what I need to do to get an understanding of it all. I didn't think it would be so hard. One person in the game just messaged me after I asked a question and said that it wasn't a girls game and to go and play the Sims instead so I kind of want to make sure I get this now. Tiff. Howdy, from another Australian. There's no such thing as a "girl's game" or a "mens' game". Two of the more ruthless pirates I know in EVE are women IRL. This game is generally aimed at people that are willing to do independent research into complex mechanics, and aggressively optimize to the point of bending the rules. If you are interested in the dark side of EVE - worming your way into people's trust then inserting a knife into their backs; joining corporations to fleece members; piracy; scamming - let me know via EVEmail, and I'll put you in touch with other e-assholes like myself. I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".

Sabriz Adoudel Move along there is nothing here 5697	Posted - 2016.02.22 11:15:34 - [141] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: no i mean like i read about fountain war but was wondering if there are others like that now? There's no massive conflicts of that scope right now. There's skirmishes, but nullsec is pretty quiet, and wormhole space seems to be quieting down too. There is definitely some serious rearming going on, however. Nullsec is on a war footing again in a way it wasn't 12 weeks ago. I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 6978	Posted - 2016.02.22 11:41:48 - [142] - Quote I look forward to the conflict any war provides. That said, EVE has many things to do. I lean towards exploration of wormhole space myself. It's rewarding, you can go at your own pace, there's pvp, and it's always fun. For me anyways. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
ISD Fractal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1055	Posted - 2016.02.22 16:45:20 - [143] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: no i mean like i read about fountain war but was wondering if there are others like that now? Different wars and offensives happen for different reasons. In a sandbox game like Eve, going to war with someone creates content for both sides and that's a good thing. Right now, for example, a newbie group called Pandemic Horde is deploying to the Fade region of null sec to invade the space of SpaceMonkeys Alliance. ISD Fractal Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.22 21:24:46 - [144] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Hello. My name is Tiffany. I am from Australia. I just started playing this video game (my first one ever!) and have been finding it very hard to understand. Someone told me I should put a post on here and introduce myself so here I am lol. Introducing myself. Hopefully there are some people out there that read this and play this as well that might be able to show me a few things or explain how everything works and what I need to do to get an understanding of it all. I didn't think it would be so hard. One person in the game just messaged me after I asked a question and said that it wasn't a girls game and to go and play the Sims instead so I kind of want to make sure I get this now. Tiff. Howdy, from another Australian. There's no such thing as a "girl's game" or a "mens' game". Two of the more ruthless pirates I know in EVE are women IRL. This game is generally aimed at people that are willing to do independent research into complex mechanics, and aggressively optimize to the point of bending the rules. If you are interested in the dark side of EVE - worming your way into people's trust then inserting a knife into their backs; joining corporations to fleece members; piracy; scamming - let me know via EVEmail, and I'll put you in touch with other e-assholes like myself. Hello :) Not really my thing sorry. I'm no good at fibbing and I'm more of a "do unto others" kind of person :) But thank you very much for the offer.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.22 21:44:47 - [145] - Quote So I've done lots of missions and stuff now but it's getting lonely out there in space :( How do you know what group to join? I just want one that wont be angry at me for not knowing everything and wont make me do things I don't want to do. But everyone keeps saying people stab you in the back or lie and cheat and steel and if possible I would like to minimise my chances of having that happen to me :(
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6349	Posted - 2016.02.22 21:52:14 - [146] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: So I've done lots of missions and stuff now but it's getting lonely out there in space :( How do you know what group to join? I just want one that wont be angry at me for not knowing everything and wont make me do things I don't want to do. But everyone keeps saying people stab you in the back or lie and cheat and steel and if possible I would like to minimise my chances of having that happen to me :( Look no further and read here Once you done that: Go look for a corp that suits you Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Memphis Baas 1169	Posted - 2016.02.22 22:34:33 - [147] - Quote It's kinda similar to how you found us. You make a post and see what happens. You join a corp that looks cool and see what happens. For social experimentation, I would recommend posting in General Discussion, where the trolls are, to build up a bit of flame resistance. The guide linked by J'Poll is pretty good; I recommend reading it. Also keep in mind that player corps in this game are created and function in order to achieve some in-game activity, and it takes a bit of effort on the part of the CEO and Directors to organize daily events for the members. So quite a few of the corps will be very... action oriented: Hi. Hi. How are you? Well, today I'm not feeling very well, my cat woke me up and then... Yeah that's nice; can you come to system X? I'm tackled by two guys and they're about to kill me, HELP! Finally, high-security space is crowded, and pretty much all the PVE activities can be done better solo than in a player group (shared loot, extra taxes). So a lot of the high-sec corps are crappy. The dangers of being attacked in lowsec, null, or wormhole space serve to keep a corp together and its members helping each other, so "dangerous space" corps tend to be better than high-sec corps. Not always, though. So, decide in general what you want to do, and click the Corp icon in-game, filter the list by your interests, look at the ads, and contact the recruiters for those that seem interesting. This will probably result in joining a small or medium group, who will probably readily accept you and be quite friendly. Or, you can also apply to join one of the large alliance mass newbie recruitment programs: Pandemic Horde, KarmaFleet, etc... they're organized like schools, and you can "hide" in the crowd of other newbies who've also joined.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14273	Posted - 2016.02.22 22:50:56 - [148] - Quote Memphis ... I'm pretty sure we are already neck deep in the social experiment. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.22 23:06:17 - [149] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Memphis ... I'm pretty sure we are already neck deep in the social experiment. What do you mean in a social experiment?
Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 58	Posted - 2016.02.22 23:10:35 - [150] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Memphis ... I'm pretty sure we are already neck deep in the social experiment. What do you mean in a social experiment? EVE is a social experiment without equal, and it had a single goal, and that was: To see if people are willing to pay to work a second job, on their own time. I would say it has been answered splendidly, but like good scientist they want to keep it going as long as possible to see the long term effects.

Cara Forelli Meticulously Indifferent 1635	Posted - 2016.02.23 00:04:16 - [151] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I'm no good at fibbing And I'm a seahorse. Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.23 00:19:38 - [152] - Quote Cara Forelli wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: I'm no good at fibbing And I'm a seahorse. oh, I see. This doesn't get easier does it. :(
Memphis Baas 1169	Posted - 2016.02.23 02:17:50 - [153] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: What do you mean in a social experiment? Tiffany Hope wrote: A friend of mine basically made me try it after she reminded me I promised I would. There is a running joke that I am not good with social situations. Someone had the bright idea of making me try an online video game because I am also not technical. My guess is this is the hardest game they could think of with the most social stuff involved? It's the premise of this thread, no?
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.23 02:46:24 - [154] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: What do you mean in a social experiment? Tiffany Hope wrote: A friend of mine basically made me try it after she reminded me I promised I would. There is a running joke that I am not good with social situations. Someone had the bright idea of making me try an online video game because I am also not technical. My guess is this is the hardest game they could think of with the most social stuff involved? It's the premise of this thread, no? No. That is just how I came to join this video game. It was their attempt to make me socialize in any manner they could achieve. Since starting I have learnt heaps thanks mostly, well entirely really, to the people in this thread and have bought a subscription thing to keep playing it. That basis of this thread was initially to put myself out of my comfort zone I guess which worked, but now it is more to get myself "out there" which I was kind of hoping I had now achieved. But there are those few people that seem to be hostile or something even though I've never done anything to them. I learnt about the trolls but there are now a small number of people that can vouch for me so I don't let it get to me. It's my first video game, I don't know much, I'm trying to learn and trying to be social. That's all.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1184	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:21:25 - [155] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: [ No. That is just how I came to join this video game. It was their attempt to make me socialize in any manner they could achieve. It sure sound like an experiment with being social Tiffany Hope wrote: [ It's my first video game, I don't know much, I'm trying to learn and trying to be social. That's all. Experimentation is not only one of the best ways to learn it is really the only way that you can come to know something i.e. through experience. Social experimentation and social engineering have gotten bad names by being used for manipulative and selfish reasons. But like everything social experimentation is just a tool and as such can be used for good or bad. You can experiment with being social and grow as a person maybe even make some friends. I doubt most people would call that manipulative or bad. You can also preform social experimentation to learn how to better manipulate people for maximum benefit for the self with complete disregard for the costs to others. Something that I think most people would likely consider bad. I tend to lump anyone involved in sales or marketing in that category and I'll admit not always rightly so. Anyway my main point is don't be afraid to call something what it is just because typically that thing is abused. Everything has positive and negative aspects.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:26:44 - [156] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: [ No. That is just how I came to join this video game. It was their attempt to make me socialize in any manner they could achieve. It sure sound like an experiment with being social Tiffany Hope wrote: [ It's my first video game, I don't know much, I'm trying to learn and trying to be social. That's all. Experimentation is not only one of the best ways to learn it is really the only way that you can come to know something i.e. through experience. Social experimentation and social engineering have gotten bad names by being used for manipulative and selfish reasons. But like everything social experimentation is just a tool and as such can be used for good or bad. You can experiment with being social and grow as a person maybe even make some friends. I doubt most people would call that manipulative or bad. You can also preform social experimentation to learn how to better manipulate people for maximum benefit for the self with complete disregard for the costs to others. Something that I think most people would likely consider bad. I tend to lump anyone involved in sales or marketing in that category and I'll admit not always rightly so. Anyway my main point is don't be afraid to call something what it is just because typically that thing is abused. Everything has positive and negative aspects. I just meant that for me it wasn't an experiment. It was just me trying to not be a hermit and shy all my life. that's all :(
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14283	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:27:44 - [157] - Quote Please Don't mistake my attitude for hostility, I'm very amused by this thread, I'm impressed with how you have handled us so far if i take you at face value and I'm certain you will go far here if you can put up with the general eve public If im right in my initial assesment though my hats off to you and im certain loyd sees it too. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:48:15 - [158] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Please Don't mistake my attitude for hostility, I'm very amused by this thread, I'm impressed with how you have handled us so far if i take you at face value and I'm certain you will go far here if you can put up with the general eve public If im right in my initial assesment though my hats off to you and im certain loyd sees it too. I've learnt that no matter what you post in this thread, I don't think I will ever understand what you mean :( Who is loyd? Why is your hat off to me? While I have everyone as well. Someone sent me money in the game with a note that said "trololol" Why? And what is FC? I keep reading it in other news pages
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14284	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:56:08 - [159] - Quote FC = Fleet Commander Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1184	Posted - 2016.02.23 03:57:05 - [160] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I just meant that for me it wasn't an experiment. It was just me trying to not be a hermit and shy all my life. that's all :( If you were a baseball player and wanted to become a better batter you would experiment with different variations on your swing. Experimentation is simply coming up with an idea of how you think something will turn out and then trying it out and see how far off the end result is from where you initially thought it would take you. Really pure experimentation is just trying something to see what happens. Experimentation is truly a wonderful and powerful thing. You should not be afraid of experimentation. It is how we learn nearly everything in this life. Even as very young children we experiment with all kinds of things. This is how we learn and grow. If you shy away from experimentation you will be stifling yourself and your ability to learn and grow. One of the best ways to learn in this game is experimentation and I am constantly telling newbros to experiment with different ships and different fits to get to know this game. As a matter of fact just today if you browse other threads here you'll find places where newbros ask for answers to questions and instead of giving them a direct answer ( often because they are looking for an objective answer to a subjective question but I digress ) I will show them how they can come to know the answer experiential through experimentation.

Memphis Baas 1171	Posted - 2016.02.23 04:00:46 - [161] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: But everyone keeps saying people stab you in the back or lie and cheat and steel and if possible I would like to minimise my chances of having that happen to me. Actually, they're mostly afraid of you (well, of newbies in general), because a newbie is an unknown person who COULD steal the corp assets, which can be significant. Your hangar is secure, and you don't really have anything worth stealing (I'm assuming you don't have billions already - maybe you do, if you've sold a PLEX), but a corp may have ships in an exposed hangar and money in an exposed wallet, free for the taking, because the corp hangars are meant for sharing not for keeping things locked up. We like newbies because we like the game and we like when newcomers are interested in it, so the most likely scenario when you join a corp is that you'll be welcomed. At worst, they'll be indifferent or be jerks, and you can just leave and put them on /ignore. Ultimately, it's like in RL; join, see what happens, move on to another corp, if you don't like. With the added perks that you have internet anonymity, harassment is against the rules, and it's just a game - at most you'll lose the pixels of a ship in an attack, no big deal.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2016.02.23 04:01:16 - [162] - Quote I really need to invest in a dictionary...
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1184	Posted - 2016.02.23 04:09:30 - [163] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I really need to invest in a dictionary... you can google any word followed the the word "definition" and a basic definition as well as several links to online dictionaries will come up. However I would much rather have an actual dictionary around. I love dictionaries. Often with abbreviations in this game you and do better by asking google what it means. Example: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=what+does+wtf+mean Honestly in certain colloquial situations urban dictionary can be very helpful.
Memphis Baas 1171	Posted - 2016.02.23 04:16:33 - [164] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Who is loyd? Why is your hat off to me? While I have everyone as well. Someone sent me money in the game with a note that said "trololol" Why? You've got most of the regular posters in the Newbie forum replying in this thread; Paranoid Loyd is another regular. "Hats off" is an expression that indicates respect, like a salute. You got money because people like you, or because you're a newbie. You'll also get bounties placed on your head, also because people like you or because you're a newbie. Trololol is a meme that caught on with the EVE crowd, which is often a weird community. EVE Devs being weird. And another one.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2016.02.23 04:16:55 - [165] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: I really need to invest in a dictionary... you can google any word followed the the word "definition" and a basic definition as well as several links to online dictionaries will come up. However I would much rather have an actual dictionary around. I love dictionaries. Often with abbreviations in this game you and do better by asking google what it means. Example: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=what+does+wtf+mean Honestly in certain colloquial situations urban dictionary can be very helpful. Oh Gosh, that is so cool!
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2016.02.23 04:29:27 - [166] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: Who is loyd? Why is your hat off to me? While I have everyone as well. Someone sent me money in the game with a note that said "trololol" Why? You've got most of the regular posters in the Newbie forum replying in this thread; Paranoid Loyd is another regular. "Hats off" is an expression that indicates respect, like a salute. You got money because people like you, or because you're a newbie. You'll also get bounties placed on your head, also because people like you or because you're a newbie. Trololol is a meme that caught on with the EVE crowd, which is often a weird community. EVE Devs being weird. And another one. Oh ok I thought someone was calling me a name lol. I tried to find who it was to give it back. I felt like someone had dropped their wallet and I had found it or something. I thought you got a bounty on you if people wanted to have you blown up, but I hope I havnt done anything that makes people want me blown up :(
Memphis Baas 1171	Posted - 2016.02.23 04:35:25 - [167] - Quote Well, you should. EVE is a PVP game, rather boring unless spaceships explode. Other people's spaceships, hopefully. In most cases, though, they just see what ship you're flying and make a quick decision whether you're an easy target or they should run away from you. Combat is pretty fast, not much time to check who's who, and/or personalities.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1185	Posted - 2016.02.23 10:35:48 - [168] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: , but I hope I havnt done anything that makes people want me blown up :( Have you Ever logged into the game "Eve online"? If the answer is yes then you've done something that makes people want to blow you up.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 25955	Posted - 2016.02.23 12:57:01 - [169] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I thought you got a bounty on you if people wanted to have you blown up, but I hope I havnt done anything that makes people want me blown up :( Don't worry about bounties, pretty much everyone has one and if someone kills you they only receive 20% of your ships value; in your case you're still in frigates and destroyers, their ammo costs more than the bounty payment. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 1097	Posted - 2016.02.23 20:15:31 - [170] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: but I hope I havnt done anything that makes people want me blown up :( Don't worry. EVE players don't need a reason to blow up (your ) stuff. https://soundcloud.com/sindel-pellion/evedumbwaystodie Remove insurance.

Pandora Carrollon Kingsman Tailors 39	Posted - 2016.02.23 20:32:41 - [171] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Don't worry about bounties, pretty much everyone has one and if someone kills you they only receive 20% of your ships value; in your case you're still in frigates and destroyers, their ammo costs more than the bounty payment. Tiffany: We newbies have SOOOO much more to worry about than bounties, or getting killed in some system. Some advice here from a fellow newcomer: STAY in the rookie areas of HiSec until you feel like you are ready to spread your wings. Usually, you have that first "There is more to this game and I want to go try it" moment. That feeling is when you think you have some things wired and you might think that you might be a little bored. It means you are comfortable in your current surroundings, that's a bad feeling! I'll explain why in a moment. Once you go to move around, grab your rookie ship if you've moved out of it to something snazzier, and go toodle about space. Go find Jita or some other local major trade hub. If your "Set Destination" is set up correctly, you'll never travel though LowSec and most folks leave the Rookie Ships alone... for the most part. Even if you get jumped and killed, the worst that happens is you lost a free ship and ended magically back in your Home Station. Learn from it and get back on the horse and go back out... in a new free Rookie ship! Talk to people, find corporation buddies, realize that danger lurks around every corner (like a bad horror movie!) and even if you get killed, poof!, you're back at home with a new free ship. Nothing lost. Why am I advising you to go out and possibly get killed? Because once it's happened to you a time or two you realize that death is a minor set back. By the time it becomes a 'major' one, you are making so much ISK that... yup... it's just a minor one again! Eventually, once in a corporation with lots of friends, getting all cozy and comfortable again, even with being killed, THEN you need to shift it up because it's at that point that you get complacent, and bored. Never get bored. EVE has about a billion things to do in it and much of it all starts with "What if..." I think those are the two most glorious and dangerous words in EVE... what if...
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 5762	Posted - 2016.02.23 20:48:36 - [172] - Quote Mara Pahrdi wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: but I hope I havnt done anything that makes people want me blown up :( Don't worry. EVE players don't need a reason to blow up (your ) stuff. https://soundcloud.com/sindel-pellion/evedumbwaystodie The video is better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2fyO4uKkxo
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2016.02.23 21:17:19 - [173] - Quote Tau Cabalander wrote: Mara Pahrdi wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: but I hope I havnt done anything that makes people want me blown up :( Don't worry. EVE players don't need a reason to blow up (your ) stuff. https://soundcloud.com/sindel-pellion/evedumbwaystodie The video is better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2fyO4uKkxo oh my gosh I laughed so much at this.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2016.02.23 21:38:04 - [174] - Quote Yeah the high sec areas (I hope of got this right) are boring now and I hate doing it all by myself lol. I've gone out and lost 2 ships, I've mined like 30 million dollars worth of stuff and sold it all, I've done heaps of skill training so I can do bigger ships and stuff. I want to have some fun now so I need to find a group or something I think.
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 763	Posted - 2016.02.23 22:45:46 - [175] - Quote Pandora Carrollon wrote: Why am I advising you to go out and possibly get killed? Because once it's happened to you a time or two you realize that death is a minor set back. By the time it becomes a 'major' one, you are making so much ISK that... yup... it's just a minor one again! Eventually, once in a corporation with lots of friends, getting all cozy and comfortable again, even with being killed, THEN you need to shift it up because it's at that point that you get complacent, and bored. Never get bored. EVE has about a billion things to do in it and much of it all starts with "What if..." I think those are the two most glorious and dangerous words in EVE... what if... Getting killed a few times is one of the best things you can do to improve your enjoyment of the game. I recommend it strongly. Get in a rookie ship and fly into nullsec, and see how many systems you can do. Don't stop trying until you do at least 50 systems in a row. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 763	Posted - 2016.02.23 22:47:29 - [176] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Yeah the high sec areas (I hope of got this right) are boring now and I hate doing it all by myself lol. I've gone out and lost 2 ships, I've mined like 30 million dollars worth of stuff and sold it all, I've done heaps of skill training so I can do bigger ships and stuff. I want to have some fun now so I need to find a group or something I think. Even mining is fun in a group. If mining is your thing, I suggest looking for a mining corp in LS or null. Mining is so much more fun when you are looking over your shoulder the whole time. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2016.02.23 22:52:54 - [177] - Quote Iria Ahrens wrote: Pandora Carrollon wrote: Why am I advising you to go out and possibly get killed? Because once it's happened to you a time or two you realize that death is a minor set back. By the time it becomes a 'major' one, you are making so much ISK that... yup... it's just a minor one again! Eventually, once in a corporation with lots of friends, getting all cozy and comfortable again, even with being killed, THEN you need to shift it up because it's at that point that you get complacent, and bored. Never get bored. EVE has about a billion things to do in it and much of it all starts with "What if..." I think those are the two most glorious and dangerous words in EVE... what if... Getting killed a few times is one of the best things you can do to improve your enjoyment of the game. I recommend it strongly. Get in a rookie ship and fly into nullsec, and see how many systems you can do. Don't stop trying until you do at least 50 systems in a row. That's what I was doing! lol. I was trying to see how far I could go. I was looking for this place called fountain that I read about. I got there, then I got killed lol. But I mined a little bit too just to be cheeky :)
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2016.02.23 23:31:06 - [178] - Quote I want to make a corporation and then an alliance :) I have big dreams lol. First I need to make some friends that I know I can trust and will stick with me I guess from what I've been told so off I go lol, to make friends :)
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6350	Posted - 2016.02.23 23:38:10 - [179] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Memphis Baas wrote: Tiffany Hope wrote: What do you mean in a social experiment? Tiffany Hope wrote: A friend of mine basically made me try it after she reminded me I promised I would. There is a running joke that I am not good with social situations. Someone had the bright idea of making me try an online video game because I am also not technical. My guess is this is the hardest game they could think of with the most social stuff involved? It's the premise of this thread, no? No. That is just how I came to join this video game. It was their attempt to make me socialize in any manner they could achieve. . And you came to EVE Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 5764	Posted - 2016.02.23 23:41:43 - [180] - Quote Iria Ahrens wrote: Getting killed a few times is one of the best things you can do to improve your enjoyment of the game. I recommend it strongly. Get in a rookie ship and fly into nullsec, and see how many systems you can do. Don't stop trying until you do at least 50 systems in a row. My record is about 42 before I made a mistake. Last time I had my ship destroyed, I thought, "Hmm ... that's a clever strategy. I should do that too!" [Playing "Blockade Runner Roulette", by one-volleying them with a Tornado.] I then docked and bought another Blockade Runner (still have it).

Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 764	Posted - 2016.02.23 23:44:20 - [181] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Iria Ahrens wrote: Pandora Carrollon wrote: Why am I advising you to go out and possibly get killed? Because once it's happened to you a time or two you realize that death is a minor set back. By the time it becomes a 'major' one, you are making so much ISK that... yup... it's just a minor one again! Eventually, once in a corporation with lots of friends, getting all cozy and comfortable again, even with being killed, THEN you need to shift it up because it's at that point that you get complacent, and bored. Never get bored. EVE has about a billion things to do in it and much of it all starts with "What if..." I think those are the two most glorious and dangerous words in EVE... what if... Getting killed a few times is one of the best things you can do to improve your enjoyment of the game. I recommend it strongly. Get in a rookie ship and fly into nullsec, and see how many systems you can do. Don't stop trying until you do at least 50 systems in a row. That's what I was doing! lol. I was trying to see how far I could go. I was looking for this place called fountain that I read about. I got there, then I got killed lol. But I mined a little bit too just to be cheeky :) Keep that attitude and you will win EvE. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 764	Posted - 2016.02.23 23:46:22 - [182] - Quote Tau Cabalander wrote: Iria Ahrens wrote: Getting killed a few times is one of the best things you can do to improve your enjoyment of the game. I recommend it strongly. Get in a rookie ship and fly into nullsec, and see how many systems you can do. Don't stop trying until you do at least 50 systems in a row. My record is about 42 before I made a mistake. Last time I had my ship destroyed, I thought, "Hmm ... that's a clever strategy. I should do that too!" [Playing "Blockade Runner Roulette", by one-volleying them with a Tornado.] I then docked and bought another Blockade Runner (still have it). I normally name my BRs "Tradewinds" but I think I'll name my next one "pi+¦ata" My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1185	Posted - 2016.02.24 03:08:39 - [183] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Yeah the high sec areas (I hope of got this right) are boring now and I hate doing it all by myself lol. I've gone out and lost 2 ships, I've mined like 30 million dollars worth of stuff and sold it all, I've done heaps of skill training so I can do bigger ships and stuff. I want to have some fun now so I need to find a group or something I think. You are on the right track. Joining a corp is only one way to find people to do stuff with. We've also already covered public chat channels. I believe we've also talked about public NPSI fleets but I think it is worth mentioning here again. Null sec mining can be fun but be warned most of the fun in that is people linking stuff in and talking in local and that can get nasty at times. But then again if you are easily offended then mining fleets are the least of your concerns in this game. To do stuff with people however you are going to have to meet up with people in game and not on the forums. I mean you can transition from one to the other but I think it's probably more effective to do it in game. Another thing that you can do if you get bored with missions is get in a cheap combat ship and run out to NRDS null sec and try some ratting and talking to the locals. Se which happens first if you get blown up by a roaming red or make a friend or two. Talking in local anywhere while you are doing what you do can be a good way to make friends. It can also be a good way to make enemies but that is all dependent upon how you go about it.
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 767	Posted - 2016.02.24 03:24:36 - [184] - Quote Just to add a little bit of emphasis. Ergherhdfgh recommended NPSI fleets. These fleets like to fly into Providence where she hangs out, and can get you KOS to CVA. I don't know how CVA is about forgiving this kind of thing, but I assume it isn't a casual pat on the head. If you want a taste of null go to Providence. Talk to the locals there. I spent a few years in-and-out of there. CVA and affiliates are cool people. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Tiffany Hope Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2016.02.24 03:29:06 - [185] - Quote Iria Ahrens wrote: Just to add a little bit of emphasis. Ergherhdfgh recommended NPSI fleets. These fleets like to fly into Providence where she hangs out, and can get you KOS to CVA. I don't know how CVA is about forgiving this kind of thing, but I assume it isn't a casual pat on the head. If you want a taste of null go to Providence. Talk to the locals there. I spent a few years in-and-out of there. CVA and affiliates are cool people. KOS? CVA? Sorry :(
Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 59	Posted - 2016.02.24 03:48:35 - [186] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Iria Ahrens wrote: Just to add a little bit of emphasis. Ergherhdfgh recommended NPSI fleets. These fleets like to fly into Providence where she hangs out, and can get you KOS to CVA. I don't know how CVA is about forgiving this kind of thing, but I assume it isn't a casual pat on the head. If you want a taste of null go to Providence. Talk to the locals there. I spent a few years in-and-out of there. CVA and affiliates are cool people. KOS? CVA? Sorry :( KOS = Kill On Sight CVA = Group that lives in Providence Providence = Spectre Hunting Grounds Myself, I love Providence and what they have managed to build over the years, unfortunately, nobody told me when I started that if i shot someone, I would be made KOS, so now, it is my hunting grounds, I wanted to FC for them to be honest, but wouldn't remove my KOS, so yeah, look up Providence, it is really impressive what they have done.
Arkoth 24 Phayder 55	Posted - 2016.02.24 07:12:56 - [187] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: KOS? CVA? Sorry :( CVA is self-proclaimed law-maker alliance in Providence 0.0-region. Peace keepers. Some kind of police. Liars. Once you will violate their rules - they will put you on their Kill-On-Sight list, so CVA-members may attack you freely, and Providence will become just average null-sec space for ya. They talk 'bout "Safe Providence", a null-sec region, where everyone may be happy and free. But Providence is just a hunting ground full of careless fools, who believe that bullshit.
Memphis Baas 1191	Posted - 2016.02.24 14:21:17 - [188] - Quote CVA is a player alliance: Curatores Veritatis Alliance. They roleplay as Amarr loyalists, and also anti-piracy. They used to be opposed by another alliance, Ushra'Khan, who roleplayed Minmatar freedom fighters and used to attack CVA for their Amarr roleplay. I'm not sure if Ushra'Khan is still active. What's unique about Providence and CVA is that they're one of the very few alliances that operates under a NRDS (not red, don't shoot) policy, basically allowing neutral characters to enter their space and do whatever they wish. Most other alliances operate under NBSI (not blue, shoot it), basically they will blockade all the gates entering their area and shoot anyone who is not a member of the alliance. So basically a newbie can go into Providence and see nullsec without being hunted by the locals. If you behave and don't attack them, they'll leave you alone; if you attack them they'll set their standings towards you to "red" and start killing you every time you try to enter. You get a chance to experience the 0.0 life; see the outposts they've built, get docking rights to their stations, be able to mine the good stuff or shoot the battleship NPC pirates (rats) that appear in the asteroid belts. The area is, of course, infiltrated by roaming PVP fleets regularly. CVA does defend, and you can join their "intel" chat channels to get warnings of threats and report intruders, but often the PVP'ers will kill and retreat before CVA can respond. So you also get a taste of the nullsec PVP, under a bit more favorable conditions than being kill-on-sight with the locals. I've lived in Providence for a while, long ago; my group had a few player-owned outposts (POSes); we'd keep our gear and ships inside the POS shields and venture out and PVP helping the locals against raiders. The hardest part is getting there, because there are only two pipelines going in, and they're both camped / blocked by NBSI alliances or pirates. Here's a guide on avoiding gatecamps.
Pandora Carrollon Kingsman Tailors 39	Posted - 2016.02.24 18:22:42 - [189] - Quote Arkoth 24 wrote: CVA is self-proclaimed law-maker alliance in Providence 0.0-region. Peace keepers. Some kind of police. Liars. Once you will violate their rules - they will put you on their Kill-On-Sight list, so CVA-members may attack you freely, and Providence will become just average null-sec space for ya. They talk 'bout "Safe Providence", a null-sec region, where everyone may be happy and free. But Providence is just a hunting ground full of careless fools, who believe that bullshit. Their rules are pretty straightforward. They are one of the oldest alliances in the game. If you 'PvE' and don't go around actively attacking other players that are not hostile towards you, you won't have an issue with CVA. The gripers about CVA want to play on the darker side of the game, which is fine, but CVA intentionally plays the good guys and bad guys don't like them. What I'm not fond of with CVA is that they have a history of being very racist and biased towards Amarr, self extending Amarrian space into Providence. There's a few good You Tube videos on this history. Rumor has it that recently they have backed off the racial warpath and while still actively proclaiming Amarr, they aren't so brutal about it any more. If you have a negative status with Amarr, you may find yourself with problems in CVA space. However, you'll likely find them far more hospitable than CODE or similar groups that even try to bug folks in HiSec.
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 770	Posted - 2016.02.24 21:03:07 - [190] - Quote Yea, OP seems to want to play the good girl. And CVA is almost a lone shining gem of "good" in eve sov null. Like I said, Good peeps. I still have about half a billion of stuf in providence that I should probably move out. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

Tiffany Hope Mandalorian Arms 18	Posted - 2016.02.24 21:13:02 - [191] - Quote So I should make another character that is Amarr and join them? Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 25956	Posted - 2016.02.24 21:17:32 - [192] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: So I should make another character that is Amarr and join them? No need, they won't mind what race your character is as long as you follow their rules. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Tiffany Hope Mandalorian Arms 18	Posted - 2016.02.24 21:29:21 - [193] - Quote oh ok. But if I am looking to join a corporation they would be a good option? Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
Tiffany Hope Mandalorian Arms 18	Posted - 2016.02.24 21:30:09 - [194] - Quote Just until I am good enough to start my own and take over the universe of course :) Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 770	Posted - 2016.02.24 21:56:50 - [195] - Quote CVA is an alliance of corporations. Although things do change, CVA usually owns half of Providence outright, and rents out the rest to other Alliances that accept the NRDS policy. AFAIK, the only CVA member corp that is strictly Amarr is PIE. But they have a public channel, "Pie public" where you can go and ask around. If you indicate interest in joining CVA, i'm sure they can point you in the right direction. A lot of corps will have a public channel. It is a good way to meet the new corp and decide if they act in way you can tolerate. Some corp might seem great from the adds and all. But then you get in and TS is just filled with racial epithets, shock pics, and porn. Others try to be family oriented and keep everything safe for work at all times. So I strongly encourage you to meet people, as others have said. The tools are nice, but they just point out opportunities, you still have to do the work. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Tiffany Hope Mandalorian Arms 18	Posted - 2016.02.24 22:11:23 - [196] - Quote So someone said I would be a lot more likely to find a good corp that will take me far if I let them know I am DTF. How do I know if I am and what is it? Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 771	Posted - 2016.02.24 23:46:31 - [197] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: So someone said I would be a lot more likely to find a good corp that will take me far if I let them know I am DTF. How do I know if I am and what is it? I dunno that one. I hope it's not a veiled insult. edit - Actually, google makes it look like a definite insult. Ignore that asshat. Just follow the advice we have been giving you, and use that how to find a corp 3.0 sticky. It is literally years of experience condensed into text. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Tiffany Hope Mandalorian Arms 18	Posted - 2016.02.25 00:02:31 - [198] - Quote Ok. Yeah I had to leave those recruitment places. I literally cried :( Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
Hyeon Ansuya Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.02.25 00:53:16 - [199] - Quote Pandora Carrollon wrote: Arkoth 24 wrote: CVA is self-proclaimed law-maker alliance in Providence 0.0-region. Peace keepers. Some kind of police. Liars. Once you will violate their rules - they will put you on their Kill-On-Sight list, so CVA-members may attack you freely, and Providence will become just average null-sec space for ya. They talk 'bout "Safe Providence", a null-sec region, where everyone may be happy and free. But Providence is just a hunting ground full of careless fools, who believe that bullshit. Their rules are pretty straightforward. They are one of the oldest alliances in the game. If you 'PvE' and don't go around actively attacking other players that are not hostile towards you, you won't have an issue with CVA. The gripers about CVA want to play on the darker side of the game, which is fine, but CVA intentionally plays the good guys and bad guys don't like them. What I'm not fond of with CVA is that they have a history of being very racist and biased towards Amarr, self extending Amarrian space into Providence. There's a few good You Tube videos on this history. Rumor has it that recently they have backed off the racial warpath and while still actively proclaiming Amarr, they aren't so brutal about it any more. If you have a negative status with Amarr, you may find yourself with problems in CVA space. However, you'll likely find them far more hospitable than CODE or similar groups that even try to bug folks in HiSec. I am already liking these guys and I'll definitely go look for them at some point. Yep, I'm Amarr. Sorry for the intrusion in this thread and thanks for the precious information!
Tiffany Hope Mandalorian Arms 18	Posted - 2016.02.25 01:47:43 - [200] - Quote Hyeon Ansuya wrote: Pandora Carrollon wrote: Arkoth 24 wrote: CVA is self-proclaimed law-maker alliance in Providence 0.0-region. Peace keepers. Some kind of police. Liars. Once you will violate their rules - they will put you on their Kill-On-Sight list, so CVA-members may attack you freely, and Providence will become just average null-sec space for ya. They talk 'bout "Safe Providence", a null-sec region, where everyone may be happy and free. But Providence is just a hunting ground full of careless fools, who believe that bullshit. Their rules are pretty straightforward. They are one of the oldest alliances in the game. If you 'PvE' and don't go around actively attacking other players that are not hostile towards you, you won't have an issue with CVA. The gripers about CVA want to play on the darker side of the game, which is fine, but CVA intentionally plays the good guys and bad guys don't like them. What I'm not fond of with CVA is that they have a history of being very racist and biased towards Amarr, self extending Amarrian space into Providence. There's a few good You Tube videos on this history. Rumor has it that recently they have backed off the racial warpath and while still actively proclaiming Amarr, they aren't so brutal about it any more. If you have a negative status with Amarr, you may find yourself with problems in CVA space. However, you'll likely find them far more hospitable than CODE or similar groups that even try to bug folks in HiSec. I am already liking these guys and I'll definitely go look for them at some point. Yep, I'm Amarr. Sorry for the intrusion in this thread and thanks for the precious information! Not quite sure I understand what just happened? Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)

Memphis Baas 1196	Posted - 2016.02.25 02:05:19 - [201] - Quote Other newbies are reading your thread and liking the information it contains. So, in-game, you can open the People and Places icon and type Curatores Veritatis and find the alliance. Then right-click and show info, and look at the Members tab. There you will see all the corporations that are in the alliance. Show info on each corporation and they'll have public channels listed, where you can join the channel and talk to them, see if they're recruiting and/or willing to take newbies. Otherwise, you can also try to set up a profile on their alliance forum (I linked it in a previous post) and chat with them there. As far as people being vulgar to you, report them for harassment.
Arkoth 24 Phayder 57	Posted - 2016.02.25 08:52:18 - [202] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: As far as people being vulgar to you, report them for harassment. ...And see what will be happen next.
gfldex 741	Posted - 2016.02.25 09:08:33 - [203] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: While I have everyone as well. Someone sent me money in the game with a note that said "trololol" Why? There is no reason not to name names. I do stand to my in game actions. The term "trololo" is a reference to Eduard Khil (see Wikipedia for a good explanation for his very reasonable actions.). The act of sending you ISK was a response to your claim not to have received handouts. You are not alone in conducting social experiments. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
gfldex 741	Posted - 2016.02.25 09:20:55 - [204] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: But everyone keeps saying people stab you in the back or lie and cheat and steel and if possible I would like to minimise my chances of having that happen to me :( That may actually happen (I personally was never hit but a former corp of mine lost about 100B to a corp theft that later lead to a perma ban of the thief. The latter should make clear what really happened.). However, where can you be cheated on, stolen from and stabbed at and it doesn't really matter? It's just a game after all. You can do a lot of stuff in this game that you could not (like dieing in battle 3 times in a single day) or would not want to do outside of a game. That freedom comes with a cost. It can also happen to you. Any player can provide you with a challenge and that challenge doesn't even have to be announced. Quite in contrast to pretty much any other online game, you are allowed to fail that challenge. Embrace your dark side - it leads to glory! If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
gfldex 741	Posted - 2016.02.25 09:44:58 - [205] - Quote Since it seams not to be mention yet I would like to give you the advice to see if your play hours line up with the active hours of the corp of you choosing. If I understood you right, you live on the sunny side of the globe so your timezone correlates with bedtime for most players. Since any corp that takes you (or any other noob) will likely be desperate for members, expect the recruiter to lie. You can check a public killboard to see when they lose ships. That tends to be the time when their members are online. While you hunt for a corp you may want to talk to Sister Alitura. She is a real nice lass and much favoured by many capsuleers. If you happen to "lose" Dagan, I would be more the happy to help you out. I tend to have a few spare and are always happy to part with one - for just 5M ISK. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Arkoth 24 Phayder 57	Posted - 2016.02.25 10:41:35 - [206] - Quote Iria Ahrens wrote: Yea, OP seems to want to play the good girl. And CVA is almost a lone shining gem of "good" in eve sov null. Like I said, Good peeps. As long as supporting slavery and religious prejudice is a good thing. Sometimes slaves just don't want to understand what is good for 'em. There are no good people in New Eden. Sometimes there are just bad people doing right things.
Pandora Carrollon Kingsman Tailors 47	Posted - 2016.02.25 18:21:11 - [207] - Quote Arkoth 24 wrote: Iria Ahrens wrote: Yea, OP seems to want to play the good girl. And CVA is almost a lone shining gem of "good" in eve sov null. Like I said, Good peeps. As long as supporting slavery and religious prejudice is a good thing. Sometimes slaves just don't want to understand what is good for 'em. There are no good people in New Eden. Sometimes there are just bad people doing right things. So if it was the Gallente that CVA supported, you'd just rationalize your position by finding something horrible that that nation does and fill it in... yeah, I get it. Good and Evil aren't absolutes... they are paths one trods upon. The paths can intersect and change but it's up to us to choose which we walk down on a given moment for a given time. The only thing we can control in this life is ourselves. People are not good or bad, choices are. What CVA is doing from a game perspective is entirely good. None of those players are enslaving anyone, it's just a role. They are actually keeping a null sec area of space mostly free and workable, something that can't be said for other null sec areas. I do believe that is what is trying to be said here, not picking on a fictional race like the Amarr for their fictional slavery. I think we are talking real cause and effect.
Arkoth 24 Phayder 60	Posted - 2016.02.25 19:57:42 - [208] - Quote Pandora Carrollon wrote: Good and Evil aren't absolutes... Don't. Even. Start.
Pandora Carrollon Kingsman Tailors 49	Posted - 2016.02.25 20:44:56 - [209] - Quote Arkoth 24 wrote: Pandora Carrollon wrote: Good and Evil aren't absolutes... Don't. Even. Start. I didn't, just pointed out some reality there. To be frank, I don't mind people messing around with Role Playing in the forums as long as it's understood that it's Role Playing and not reality. When the context changes to reality, it's not the best place or time for serious RP. Fun RP is a different matter, so I'm trying to take what you said in that context... fun. However, if you were serious, I was pointing out the reality context. On to other fun!
Tiffany Hope Mandalorian Arms 18	Posted - 2016.02.25 23:15:39 - [210] - Quote My mail icon says I have 6 unread mail but when I go to mail it says its not available during downtime... but its like 9am? Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)

Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 59	Posted - 2016.02.25 23:19:06 - [211] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: My mail icon says I have 6 unread mail but when I go to mail it says its not available during downtime... but its like 9am? I am having the same issue, probably a bug, just wait it out till you get home :)
Tiffany Hope Mandalorian Arms 18	Posted - 2016.02.26 05:21:12 - [212] - Quote yeah but I don't know if I want to come online after yesterday now :( Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 59	Posted - 2016.02.26 05:23:24 - [213] - Quote You will be fine Tiff, but take you time, like I said, you can prove them how wrong you are, in EVE, you are just shy of a Goddess, you can be who you want, anything you want, don't let the words of the few effect how you will impact New Eden
gfldex 741	Posted - 2016.02.26 05:26:18 - [214] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: yeah but I don't know if I want to come online after yesterday now :( Maybe the Orca pilot is requesting moral support? Your first corp will most likely not be your best corp. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
gfldex 741	Posted - 2016.02.26 05:28:35 - [215] - Quote Ace Lapointe wrote: You will be fine Tiff, but take you time, like I said, you can prove them how wrong you are, in EVE, you are just shy of a Goddess, you can be who you want, anything you want, don't let the words of the few effect how you will impact New Eden Mate, please check the killboard link I provided a few posts back and reconsider your advice. The problem is not words. She managed to get herself in between a rock and a hard place while being surrounded by utterly clueless morons. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Ace Lapointe Duty. Mighty Wings. 59	Posted - 2016.02.26 05:35:29 - [216] - Quote I know mate, I talk to her in-game and try and help her out each night since her first post, it's more, read up at some of her posts, people said stuff, buff said, but you are kinda right on the Corp thing, I was lucky and found an awesome group of guys, even if I only catch them online when I stay up till 4AM :P
gfldex 741	Posted - 2016.02.26 05:45:21 - [217] - Quote Alright, triage mode. Visit link1 and link2 to get a more or less complete list of your enemies. Add each of them to your address book and make sure you let it inform you about their online status. As long as they are offline, you are fine. Stay in a frig, be careful before you undock. The local chat will tell you if any hostiles are in system, with a little star next to their name. Jumping into the next system may be dangerous in a frig but they will need luck to catch you. If they don't you should be fine running missions, as long as you keep an eye on your overview. Be ready to warp out any time. Frigs are actually quite hard to catch and your enemies will likely come online after you left. That bounty you got is meaningless (you should have asked that question.That's what the bounty was for.), just ignore it. The worst that it will cause is that the char that places the bounty will get a few mails when you lose ships. Ships are meant to be lost. What are you waiting for? Given when the war was started (the timing is really close tho), you may actually have drawn the attention of those grim men towards your new corp. In my eyes you have the moral obligation to at least check what your corp mates have to say in those mails. Don't worry, war is a good teacher. You will know right away when you did something wrong. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 784	Posted - 2016.02.26 06:05:41 - [218] - Quote Just be aware, the online status function of the address book is going away, unless they accepted opt-in to allow you that info. But yea, looks like gfldex is giving good advice. Remember you are always empowered in Eve. There is always something you can do. Never allow yourself to feel like a victim. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Tiffany Hope Mandalorian Arms 18	Posted - 2016.02.28 10:03:48 - [219] - Quote stupid mail still doesn't work :( Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6365	Posted - 2016.02.28 12:02:53 - [220] - Quote What the F happened? Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club

ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1200	Posted - 2016.02.28 14:32:51 - [221] - Quote Ace Lapointe wrote: Myself, I love Providence and what they have managed to build over the years, unfortunately, nobody told me when I started that if i shot someone, I would be made KOS, so now, it is my hunting grounds, I wanted to FC for them to be honest, but wouldn't remove my KOS, so yeah, look up Providence, it is really impressive what they have done. So it is easy to get off of the KoS list. All that you have to do make good with all of the pilots of the ships that you destroyed. The simpliest way of doing this is to pay them the isk value of their loss. Another thing that you can do is join a corp that is blue. You will have to do some explaining to get their trust but you can do it. I've seen players that once were red join blue corps and become valuable local residents. I've also seen blues leave and join or create red corps. If you are seriously interested in joining the blue side of Provi NRDS gameplay You can start out on their website. Where there is a will there is a way. Tiffany Hope wrote: So I should make another character that is Amarr and join them? CVA has eased up on the whole RP a little. However CVA are not the only members of Provi block not to mention that you do not need to be in a sov holding corp to live in Provi. You've got: Yulai Federation, Se3rance, Sanctuary Pact which are all Provi NRDS sov holders. You also have The Volition Cult which used to be a Provi Sov holder and has now moved to extend NRDS into Catch last that I heard. You also have corps like the one that my main is in that don't hold Sov but have lived in Provi for years and help to contribute locally to the effort. OP if you are interested in NRDS game play or living in Provi convo me in game or send me a message and we'll talk more about it.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1200	Posted - 2016.02.28 14:40:42 - [222] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Ok. Yeah I had to leave those recruitment places. I literally cried :( You can't be so thin skinned and play this game. Well I guess technically you could be but then you'd have to like crying a lot.
Memphis Baas 1231	Posted - 2016.02.28 14:41:57 - [223] - Quote J'Poll wrote: What the F happened? Looks like Tiffany joined Mandalorian Arms, which I think was supposed to be a manufacturing corp.; they were war-decced on Feb. 22 by Devi's Warrior Alliance, on 24 (when she joined) by Pirat, and on 27 by Ni4OSI. And judging by the killboard link glfdex provided, the wars are very active with lots of kills. I'm guessing that people are smack-talking in local, using profanity. Also, Tiffany now has an exact 1 million ISK bounty, and is probably not logging in (no kills or deaths).
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1200	Posted - 2016.02.28 14:52:44 - [224] - Quote J'Poll wrote: What the F happened? Ya feeling like a missed a couple pages of this thread myself.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1200	Posted - 2016.02.28 14:54:40 - [225] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: J'Poll wrote: What the F happened? Looks like Tiffany joined Mandalorian Arms, which I think was supposed to be a manufacturing corp.; they were war-decced on Feb. 22 by Devi's Warrior Alliance, on 24 (when she joined) by Pirat, and on 27 by Ni4OSI. And judging by the killboard link glfdex provided, the wars are very active with lots of kills. I'm guessing that people are smack-talking in local, using profanity. Also, Tiffany now has an exact 1 million ISK bounty, and is probably not logging in (no kills or deaths). Thanks for the update. I could not figure out what was going on from the links.
Memphis Baas 1232	Posted - 2016.02.28 15:02:52 - [226] - Quote It's possible that this is an "establish a cover, fish for a wardec target, infiltrate, and provide target intel" story. Although, with evewho providing a full list of Mandalorian Arms' members, such a hoax doesn't seem necessary, unless it was to find them in w-space, where locator agents don't function.
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders 4309	Posted - 2016.02.28 16:35:25 - [227] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: It's possible that this is an "establish a cover, fish for a wardec target, infiltrate, and provide target intel" story. Although, with evewho providing a full list of Mandalorian Arms' members, such a hoax doesn't seem necessary, unless it was to find them in w-space, where locator agents don't function. Intriguing! Or maybe it's a 'find out who's carrying 7 plex in a noobship' story. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Tiffany Hope Mandalorian Arms 21	Posted - 2016.02.29 02:20:02 - [228] - Quote I have a bounty on me? Why? I didn't do anything to anybody. I was invited to join this corp but there is not many people online and It wont let me leave (I am in some 24 hour waiting period?) when I found out they were at war and I got moved into some alliance chat thing. Have I gotten myself into trouble? I log on every day but nobody told me someone wants me blown up :( All I do is mine in the safe areas. I'm not hurting anybody. I made 5 million now with what I have mined. Am I allowed to pay off the bounty on me myself or something? Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
Tiffany Hope Mandalorian Arms 21	Posted - 2016.02.29 02:32:04 - [229] - Quote Also I have like 11 mails so I am sorry everyone but the mail thing wont let me in there to check them :( Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
Memphis Baas 1234	Posted - 2016.02.29 02:35:21 - [230] - Quote Yes you have a bounty on you. Your portrait will say "wanted" in-game. Bounties are considered useless in this game because the only way for people to claim your bounty is to kill your ship, and then they only get 20% of the value of your ship. So if you fly a 400k frigate, they get 80k per kill, and they probably spend more than 80k on ammunition, so it's not worth it. Your corporation is at war with 3 pirate / PVP corporations. That means they can ask a locator agent to locate you (and all the other members of the corp) and they can kill you in high-sec without CONCORD interference. Typically when at war, people get a few war ships (frigates in your case I guess) and stop flying industrial ships; they go looking for fights, because your enemies sure will look for you. It's a PVP game, we blow each other up. You have to give up this idea that you're going to be able to avoid PVP if you just are nice and don't "hurt" anyone. Because you won't be able to avoid it; it's everywhere in this game. Wait your 24 hour period and then you'll be placed in an NPC corp, and the Mandalorian Arms war won't affect you anymore. Next time you join a corp, right-click and show info on the recruiter, then click his corp icon at the top, then look at al the tabs to see if they're at war. Industrialist or mining corps have wars declared against them all the time, because they are easy prey.

gfldex 747	Posted - 2016.02.29 04:51:50 - [231] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Have I gotten myself into trouble? Given you are playing EVE Online, I would say, yes, you got yourself into trouble. Tiffany Hope wrote: I log on every day but nobody told me someone wants me blown up :( All I do is mine in the safe areas. Roids and therefor minerals are not spawned just for you. They are spawned for every miner. If you mine them they can't. Expect some miners to understand this and to consider you to be competition. This being EVE, that competition is of the cut-throut kind. And if there is cut-throut competition you better hold the knife. A close friend of mine told you that Albert Dexson placed a bounty on your head (you should have gotten a mail with that information). Watch your back. Bounties are far from useless. If you place a bounty of 1B on a dedicated freighter pilot, you may actually render that char useless. Your bounty is just 1M. Unlikely anybody will seek you out for that. However, if there is another pilot happily mining away right next to you, but without a bounty, you will be a preferred pick. You have gotten yourself into trouble be joining the wrong corp. They are sheep. You should know very well what the Dingos do to sheep. Join the Dingos and you will be much safer. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
gfldex 747	Posted - 2016.02.29 05:40:40 - [232] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I'm not hurting anybody. You can't hurt anyone while playing EVE Online. Anything you see on screen is property of CCP Games (who are Vikings, what explains a lot). They grant you exclusive right to use what you call "my ship" if you are docked. As soon as you undock any player has the right to use that ship. The way to use that ship may differ, depending your standpoint, but they are property of CCP Games nonetheless. So how can you hurt me by shooting some internet spaceship that belongs to CCP Games? Of cause this is all just semantics. Because in the end EVE is just Ludo on a massive scale. So why would one want to play a game where he can be kicked back to the start? If you can answer that question, you understood EVE (and mankind for that matter). If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Arkoth 24 Phayder 66	Posted - 2016.02.29 08:54:49 - [233] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: It's possible that this is an "establish a cover, fish for a wardec target, infiltrate, and provide target intel" story. That would make Tiffany Hope not completely useless and even provide some respect to her. At last this story promises some interesting outcome.
Pandora Carrollon Kingsman Tailors 70	Posted - 2016.02.29 16:06:17 - [234] - Quote I think you can have a second account, take down your other account while in a rookie ship (so you don't lose a nice ship) and that will eliminate the bounty, or so I've heard but I have no idea how true that is. You can collect on your own bounty and teach the bounty makers a lesson in the process. It can be done with a trusted fellow player, but as others point out, finding some you REALLY can trust in EVE isn't all that easy...
Arkoth 24 Phayder 67	Posted - 2016.02.29 16:47:46 - [235] - Quote Pandora Carrollon wrote: ...finding some you REALLY can trust in EVE isn't all that easy... Ya can trust me. I always tell truth. For now i'm tellin' ya that your opinion on bounty is a total bullshit.
ISD Max Trix ISD Community Communications Liaisons 154	Posted - 2016.02.29 17:23:20 - [236] - Quote Removed an off topic post. ISD Max Trix Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department *I do not respond to Evemails.*
Mishra San 60	Posted - 2016.02.29 19:06:54 - [237] - Quote Welcome to Eve Online! \0/ sending virtual hug, virtual hug sent!
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1203	Posted - 2016.02.29 23:44:44 - [238] - Quote Tiffany you don't need to worry about bounties. The concepts that you have about right and wrong get thrown out the window the second that you log into this game. You don't have to do anything wrong to have people come after you in this game. Also worth pointing out is that high sec is full of players looking for soft targets meaning people looking to PvP against players that have no idea how to PvP. In all honesty if you want to get away from that type of gameplay move to null sec. There is seriously less PvP in null sec than in high sec, at least that has been my experience. So don't worry about the bounty and stop thinking what did you do wrong when people come after you. This is a forum alt for me because in this game if I were to come into the forums and talk openly about not seeking out PvP I'd likely have a list of players chasing me down and trying to force me to PvP. It's just how this game is. You can be ok with that or not but the game will still be what it is. You don't have to become anything in particular to play this game. However you also can change the game from the core of what it is. You have to find your place in it but allow it to be what it is.
Cara Forelli Meticulously Indifferent 1652	Posted - 2016.03.01 04:03:30 - [239] - Quote Pandora Carrollon wrote: I think you can have a second account, take down your other account while in a rookie ship (so you don't lose a nice ship) and that will eliminate the bounty, or so I've heard but I have no idea how true that is. You can collect on your own bounty and teach the bounty makers a lesson in the process. It can be done with a trusted fellow player, but as others point out, finding some you REALLY can trust in EVE isn't all that easy... You are thinking of kill rights, which can be shed in a rookie ship if they are made available to the public. That's why you should never make a kill right available for free, they'll just use an alt to clear it. You want to make them cheap enough that someone goes "yeah I'll pay that to attack this guy" but not cheap enough that you don't get anything from it. Bounties are different. The payout is a percentage of the cost of worth of the ship hull. Rookie ships aren't worth anything so it would take millions of them (if not an infinite amount) to clear a bounty. It's never cost effective to clear your own bounty because you have to blow up a lot more than you will make from the payout. Otherwise bounties would be worthless as it would be like giving free money to your enem(ies alts). Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament
Pandora Carrollon Kingsman Tailors 71	Posted - 2016.03.01 16:06:43 - [240] - Quote Cara Forelli wrote: You are thinking of kill rights, which can be shed in a rookie ship if they are made available to the public. That's why you should never make a kill right available for free, they'll just use an alt to clear it. You want to make them cheap enough that someone goes "yeah I'll pay that to attack this guy" but not cheap enough that you don't get anything from it. Bounties are different. The payout is a percentage of the cost of worth of the ship hull. Rookie ships aren't worth anything so it would take millions of them (if not an infinite amount) to clear a bounty. It's never cost effective to clear your own bounty because you have to blow up a lot more than you will make from the payout. Otherwise bounties would be worthless as it would be like giving free money to your enem(ies alts). Thank you for clearing that up, I was getting them confused. I kinda thought they were related somehow. Using the term 'bounty' is confusing then. It doesn't work like the modern, real world, term bounty.

Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 25975	Posted - 2016.03.01 19:42:58 - [241] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: This is a forum alt for me because in this game if I were to come into the forums and talk openly about not seeking out PvP I'd likely have a list of players chasing me down and trying to force me to PvP. It's just how this game is. Given your attitude you probably wouldn't, this is my main and I post in a very similar vein; I've gotten hate mail for telling carebears how not to die, from carebears and the odd white knight , haven't gotten any from PvP folks though. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 5788	Posted - 2016.03.01 20:19:05 - [242] - Quote Most of my characters have bounties, even the ones that rarely if ever undock. The worst part about a bounty is that it messes-up the portrait with a big red "wanted" banner. Yup, that's the worst part, i.e. don't worry about bounties.
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6368	Posted - 2016.03.01 22:29:11 - [243] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: I have a bounty on me? Why? I didn't do anything to anybody. I was invited to join this corp but there is not many people online and It wont let me leave (I am in some 24 hour waiting period?) when I found out they were at war and I got moved into some alliance chat thing. Have I gotten myself into trouble? I log on every day but nobody told me someone wants me blown up :( All I do is mine in the safe areas. I'm not hurting anybody. I made 5 million now with what I have mined. Am I allowed to pay off the bounty on me myself or something? Couple of things: A. Bounties are useless in EVE. Ignore them. Hell, my alts have bounties that I placed on them, just so they have the nice wanted sign. Basically, all they do is give anybody who does kill you a small tip depending on what you lost. It doesn't make you a target or bad person. B. NEVER, EVER join a corp that invites you. Join a corp that YOU want to join. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6368	Posted - 2016.03.01 22:32:34 - [244] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: It's a PVP game, we blow each other up. You have to give up this idea that you're going to be able to avoid PVP if you just are nice and don't "hurt" anyone. Because you won't be able to avoid it; it's everywhere in this game. Quoting for maximum effect. EVE is a PvP game. If you want absolutely no PvP, then EVE isn't the game for you. Anybody can shoot anything they want, when ever and where ever they want. Some places it involves consequences other places it's does not. So, PvP WILL happen, wether you are are a nice guy/gal minding your own damn business or a rudeless pirate. Simpley stating that you are a nice person doesn't change the fact that if someone wants to shoot at you, they will still do. Just cause I can is enough reason in EVE to shoot someone. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6368	Posted - 2016.03.01 22:35:43 - [245] - Quote Pandora Carrollon wrote: I think you can have a second account, take down your other account while in a rookie ship (so you don't lose a nice ship) and that will eliminate the bounty, or so I've heard but I have no idea how true that is. You can collect on your own bounty and teach the bounty makers a lesson in the process. It can be done with a trusted fellow player, but as others point out, finding some you REALLY can trust in EVE isn't all that easy... That is ancient info, utterly useless now Bounty pay-out is 20% of loss value So to clear a bounty with an alt (or friend) you have to lose 5 times the value in bounties in ships. Not very economical. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6368	Posted - 2016.03.01 22:38:42 - [246] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: ergherhdfgh wrote: This is a forum alt for me because in this game if I were to come into the forums and talk openly about not seeking out PvP I'd likely have a list of players chasing me down and trying to force me to PvP. It's just how this game is. Given your attitude you probably wouldn't, this is my main and I post in a very similar vein; I've gotten hate mail for telling carebears how not to die, from carebears and the odd white knight , haven't gotten any from PvP folks though. Proud main poster here too. And y'all know HOW I post. Hell, only times I used an alt to post is when ISD or CCP muzzle gagged my main once again Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6368	Posted - 2016.03.01 22:40:04 - [247] - Quote Tau Cabalander wrote: Most of my characters have bounties, even the ones that rarely if ever undock. The worst part about a bounty is that it messes-up the portrait with a big red "wanted" banner. Yup, that's the worst part, i.e. don't worry about bounties. Messes up...I LOVE my wanted sign, makes me look dangerous. I usually hang around a newby system in EVE and you should see all the new players look in terror when they see the wanted sign, while I'm just sitting there in a safe spot outside the station watching them and answering questions. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 5788	Posted - 2016.03.01 22:48:09 - [248] - Quote J'Poll wrote: Messes up...I LOVE my wanted sign, makes me look dangerous. I haven't seen below my chin since bounties were changed in the Retribution expansion. Gosh I hope I remembered to wear pants.
Cara Forelli Meticulously Indifferent 1653	Posted - 2016.03.01 22:50:48 - [249] - Quote Tau Cabalander wrote: Most of my characters have bounties, even the ones that rarely if ever undock. The worst part about a bounty is that it messes-up the portrait with a big red "wanted" banner. Yup, that's the worst part, i.e. don't worry about bounties. That's the best part! I can't hold on to a bounty to save my life. :( Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 797	Posted - 2016.03.01 23:19:15 - [250] - Quote J'Poll wrote: Tau Cabalander wrote: Most of my characters have bounties, even the ones that rarely if ever undock. The worst part about a bounty is that it messes-up the portrait with a big red "wanted" banner. Yup, that's the worst part, i.e. don't worry about bounties. Messes up...I LOVE my wanted sign, makes me look dangerous. I usually hang around a newby system in EVE and you should see all the new players look in terror when they see the wanted sign, while I'm just sitting there in a safe spot outside the station watching them and answering questions. <-- Also Main. I know right? That wanted sign makes newbies think you're a BAD person! I've been wanted a few times, but I tend to get blown up pretty often, so I don't keep bounties for long. I try not to talk too much PVP advice, since most of my pvp style is paranoia, running away, and pre-planning. I still plan on going all out pvp, but I have this little project of attempting to create a more thriving market in Stain. It's keeping me pretty occupied, and getting me blown up too. I'm neutral to EVERYONE. Makes things interesting. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14457	Posted - 2016.03.01 23:27:30 - [251] - Quote J'Poll wrote: B. NEVER, EVER join a corp that invites you. Join a corp that YOU want to join. furthermore , always check if the group in question is at war at the time. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1212	Posted - 2016.03.01 23:36:26 - [252] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: ergherhdfgh wrote: This is a forum alt for me because in this game if I were to come into the forums and talk openly about not seeking out PvP I'd likely have a list of players chasing me down and trying to force me to PvP. It's just how this game is. Given your attitude you probably wouldn't, this is my main and I post in a very similar vein; I've gotten hate mail for telling carebears how not to die, from carebears and the odd white knight , haven't gotten any from PvP folks though. I've had players on the forum demand that I post the name of my main before. Not here, but typically when I comment on Dev posts about upcoming game changes. I can only assume that if they are asking for the name of my main that they intend to do something with that name. I'll admit I could be very wrong on this. However having a forum alt is a fairly simple thing and if I am correct I basically have to stop playing this game if I don't. However in real life I tend to try and keep a low profile and fly under the radar in most if not all situations so my perspective is probably a little tilted in that direction. I will admit that my way is just that, my way, not necessarily the right way. All that I can do is share how I play and why and how it works out for me. It's up to others to decide if it may or may not work given their tastes.
Pandora Carrollon Kingsman Tailors 73	Posted - 2016.03.01 23:39:32 - [253] - Quote J'Poll wrote: That is ancient info, utterly useless now Bounty pay-out is 20% of loss value So to clear a bounty with an alt (or friend) you have to lose 5 times the value in bounties in ships. Not very economical. Thanks, Cara Forelli got me straightened out too.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1212	Posted - 2016.03.01 23:41:59 - [254] - Quote Cara Forelli wrote: Tau Cabalander wrote: Most of my characters have bounties, even the ones that rarely if ever undock. The worst part about a bounty is that it messes-up the portrait with a big red "wanted" banner. Yup, that's the worst part, i.e. don't worry about bounties. That's the best part! I can't hold on to a bounty to save my life. :( No but you could hold onto a buoy to save your life.
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 5790	Posted - 2016.03.02 04:48:55 - [255] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: Cara Forelli wrote: That's the best part! I can't hold on to a bounty to save my life. :( No but you could hold onto a buoy to save your life. Bad buoy, bad buoy! What'cha gonna do?! What'cha gonna do, when they come for you?! [OMG I need some sleep.]
J'Poll Perkone Caldari State 6370	Posted - 2016.03.02 18:44:50 - [256] - Quote Tau Cabalander wrote: ergherhdfgh wrote: Cara Forelli wrote: That's the best part! I can't hold on to a bounty to save my life. :( No but you could hold onto a buoy to save your life. Bad buoy, bad buoy! What'cha gonna do?! What'cha gonna do, when they come for you?! [OMG I need some sleep.] And here a customer is looking weird at me for spilling the coffee all over his desk Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Tiffany Hope The Scope Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2016.03.03 00:44:29 - [257] - Quote :) Is API safe? Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14475	Posted - 2016.03.03 01:33:37 - [258] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: :) Is API safe? yes, did you check if the group has an active or pending war? Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Memphis Baas 1262	Posted - 2016.03.03 01:37:42 - [259] - Quote API lets others see (not change in any way) some of your account and character details. It is a way to interface outside programs with the game (such as eveboard.com), and you can use it yourself: go to the API management webpage on CCP's official website, log in, and create API's for yourself and for others. You can then plug the private API's into programs like EVEMON and EFT, and they'll pull down your trained skills so that when you plan your skills (in EVEMON) or try out ship fittings (EFT), your trained skills are taken into account. Some corporations use the API for interfacing with their forums and voice communications: as long as you're in the corp, the forum will know through the API to give you access. Most corporations use the API to figure out your alts and whether you're a spy. Again, it's a trust issue because theft and espionage are allowed in this game. So they'll look at whether you or your alts belonged to enemy corps in the past, whether you transferred ISK from enemies, etc. It's like a background check; safe because they can't change anything about your character or account, but also revealing. It's the acceptable norm; I'm not surprised that you got asked for the API key.
Yang Aurilen The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1060	Posted - 2016.03.03 02:04:25 - [260] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: :) Is API safe? Unless you've been putting your username password in an ingame mail somewhere then it's not safe. Otherwise it's safe. Most "serious" corps will ask for full API as they are concerned about security of the corp and the well-being of their membership. Also I'm sad that all bounties that gets placed on me always disappears after a while when I log on. Not even that 20 mil bounty a miner placed on me lasted. Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

Cara Forelli Meticulously Indifferent 1654	Posted - 2016.03.03 02:36:57 - [261] - Quote Yang Aurilen wrote: Unless you've been putting your username password in an ingame mail somewhere then it's not safe. Not a good idea regardless. Don't forget your recipient can give out their API as well! Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament
Ohemgeez MyNameWontFi Space Heroes In Training 24	Posted - 2016.03.03 07:13:54 - [262] - Quote Hello New! o/ Welcome to EvE. I hope you die always and have fun.
gfldex 752	Posted - 2016.03.03 08:30:04 - [263] - Quote Tiffany Hope wrote: Is API safe? They will see that I have send you money. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Annemariela Antonela Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out. 400	Posted - 2016.03.10 16:08:35 - [264] - Quote 262nd reply. GÇ£Culture is like a smog. To live within it, you must breathe some of it in and, inevitably, be contaminated.GÇ¥ GÇò Richard K. Morgan, Altered Carbon
Admiral Icarus Raidriar Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2016.03.10 16:21:37 - [265] - Quote Welcome to Eve. Don't explain your philosophy. Embody it.


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