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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
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Posted - 2016.02.23 23:44:20 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:Iria Ahrens wrote:Pandora Carrollon wrote:
Why am I advising you to go out and possibly get killed? Because once it's happened to you a time or two you realize that death is a minor set back. By the time it becomes a 'major' one, you are making so much ISK that... yup... it's just a minor one again!
Eventually, once in a corporation with lots of friends, getting all cozy and comfortable again, even with being killed, THEN you need to shift it up because it's at that point that you get complacent, and bored. Never get bored. EVE has about a billion things to do in it and much of it all starts with "What if..." I think those are the two most glorious and dangerous words in EVE... what if...
Getting killed a few times is one of the best things you can do to improve your enjoyment of the game. I recommend it strongly. Get in a rookie ship and fly into nullsec, and see how many systems you can do. Don't stop trying until you do at least 50 systems in a row. That's what I was doing! lol. I was trying to see how far I could go. I was looking for this place called fountain that I read about. I got there, then I got killed lol. But I mined a little bit too just to be cheeky :)
Keep that attitude and you will win EvE.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
764
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Posted - 2016.02.23 23:46:22 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Iria Ahrens wrote:Getting killed a few times is one of the best things you can do to improve your enjoyment of the game. I recommend it strongly. Get in a rookie ship and fly into nullsec, and see how many systems you can do. Don't stop trying until you do at least 50 systems in a row. My record is about 42 before I made a mistake. Last time I had my ship destroyed, I thought, "Hmm ... that's a clever strategy. I should do that too!" [Playing "Blockade Runner Roulette", by one-volleying them with a Tornado.] I then docked and bought another Blockade Runner (still have it).
I normally name my BRs "Tradewinds" but I think I'll name my next one "pi+Ķata"
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1185
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Posted - 2016.02.24 03:08:39 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:Yeah the high sec areas (I hope of got this right) are boring now and I hate doing it all by myself lol. I've gone out and lost 2 ships, I've mined like 30 million dollars worth of stuff and sold it all, I've done heaps of skill training so I can do bigger ships and stuff.
I want to have some fun now so I need to find a group or something I think. You are on the right track. Joining a corp is only one way to find people to do stuff with. We've also already covered public chat channels.
I believe we've also talked about public NPSI fleets but I think it is worth mentioning here again.
Null sec mining can be fun but be warned most of the fun in that is people linking stuff in and talking in local and that can get nasty at times. But then again if you are easily offended then mining fleets are the least of your concerns in this game.
To do stuff with people however you are going to have to meet up with people in game and not on the forums. I mean you can transition from one to the other but I think it's probably more effective to do it in game.
Another thing that you can do if you get bored with missions is get in a cheap combat ship and run out to NRDS null sec and try some ratting and talking to the locals. Se which happens first if you get blown up by a roaming red or make a friend or two.
Talking in local anywhere while you are doing what you do can be a good way to make friends. It can also be a good way to make enemies but that is all dependent upon how you go about it. |
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
767
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Posted - 2016.02.24 03:24:36 -
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Just to add a little bit of emphasis. Ergherhdfgh recommended NPSI fleets. These fleets like to fly into Providence where she hangs out, and can get you KOS to CVA. I don't know how CVA is about forgiving this kind of thing, but I assume it isn't a casual pat on the head.
If you want a taste of null go to Providence. Talk to the locals there. I spent a few years in-and-out of there. CVA and affiliates are cool people.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Tiffany Hope
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2016.02.24 03:29:06 -
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Iria Ahrens wrote:Just to add a little bit of emphasis. Ergherhdfgh recommended NPSI fleets. These fleets like to fly into Providence where she hangs out, and can get you KOS to CVA. I don't know how CVA is about forgiving this kind of thing, but I assume it isn't a casual pat on the head.
If you want a taste of null go to Providence. Talk to the locals there. I spent a few years in-and-out of there. CVA and affiliates are cool people. KOS? CVA? Sorry :( |
Ace Lapointe
Duty. Mighty Wings.
59
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Posted - 2016.02.24 03:48:35 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:Iria Ahrens wrote:Just to add a little bit of emphasis. Ergherhdfgh recommended NPSI fleets. These fleets like to fly into Providence where she hangs out, and can get you KOS to CVA. I don't know how CVA is about forgiving this kind of thing, but I assume it isn't a casual pat on the head.
If you want a taste of null go to Providence. Talk to the locals there. I spent a few years in-and-out of there. CVA and affiliates are cool people. KOS? CVA? Sorry :(
KOS = Kill On Sight CVA = Group that lives in Providence Providence = Spectre Hunting Grounds
Myself, I love Providence and what they have managed to build over the years, unfortunately, nobody told me when I started that if i shot someone, I would be made KOS, so now, it is my hunting grounds, I wanted to FC for them to be honest, but wouldn't remove my KOS, so yeah, look up Providence, it is really impressive what they have done. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
55
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Posted - 2016.02.24 07:12:56 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:KOS? CVA? Sorry :( CVA is self-proclaimed law-maker alliance in Providence 0.0-region. Peace keepers. Some kind of police. Liars.
Once you will violate their rules - they will put you on their Kill-On-Sight list, so CVA-members may attack you freely, and Providence will become just average null-sec space for ya.
They talk 'bout "Safe Providence", a null-sec region, where everyone may be happy and free. But Providence is just a hunting ground full of careless fools, who believe that bullshit. |
Memphis Baas
1191
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Posted - 2016.02.24 14:21:17 -
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CVA is a player alliance: Curatores Veritatis Alliance. They roleplay as Amarr loyalists, and also anti-piracy. They used to be opposed by another alliance, Ushra'Khan, who roleplayed Minmatar freedom fighters and used to attack CVA for their Amarr roleplay. I'm not sure if Ushra'Khan is still active.
What's unique about Providence and CVA is that they're one of the very few alliances that operates under a NRDS (not red, don't shoot) policy, basically allowing neutral characters to enter their space and do whatever they wish. Most other alliances operate under NBSI (not blue, shoot it), basically they will blockade all the gates entering their area and shoot anyone who is not a member of the alliance.
So basically a newbie can go into Providence and see nullsec without being hunted by the locals. If you behave and don't attack them, they'll leave you alone; if you attack them they'll set their standings towards you to "red" and start killing you every time you try to enter. You get a chance to experience the 0.0 life; see the outposts they've built, get docking rights to their stations, be able to mine the good stuff or shoot the battleship NPC pirates (rats) that appear in the asteroid belts.
The area is, of course, infiltrated by roaming PVP fleets regularly. CVA does defend, and you can join their "intel" chat channels to get warnings of threats and report intruders, but often the PVP'ers will kill and retreat before CVA can respond. So you also get a taste of the nullsec PVP, under a bit more favorable conditions than being kill-on-sight with the locals.
I've lived in Providence for a while, long ago; my group had a few player-owned outposts (POSes); we'd keep our gear and ships inside the POS shields and venture out and PVP helping the locals against raiders.
The hardest part is getting there, because there are only two pipelines going in, and they're both camped / blocked by NBSI alliances or pirates. Here's a guide on avoiding gatecamps. |
Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
39
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Posted - 2016.02.24 18:22:42 -
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Arkoth 24 wrote:CVA is self-proclaimed law-maker alliance in Providence 0.0-region. Peace keepers. Some kind of police. Liars.
Once you will violate their rules - they will put you on their Kill-On-Sight list, so CVA-members may attack you freely, and Providence will become just average null-sec space for ya.
They talk 'bout "Safe Providence", a null-sec region, where everyone may be happy and free. But Providence is just a hunting ground full of careless fools, who believe that bullshit.
Their rules are pretty straightforward. They are one of the oldest alliances in the game.
If you 'PvE' and don't go around actively attacking other players that are not hostile towards you, you won't have an issue with CVA.
The gripers about CVA want to play on the darker side of the game, which is fine, but CVA intentionally plays the good guys and bad guys don't like them.
What I'm not fond of with CVA is that they have a history of being very racist and biased towards Amarr, self extending Amarrian space into Providence. There's a few good You Tube videos on this history. Rumor has it that recently they have backed off the racial warpath and while still actively proclaiming Amarr, they aren't so brutal about it any more. If you have a negative status with Amarr, you may find yourself with problems in CVA space.
However, you'll likely find them far more hospitable than CODE or similar groups that even try to bug folks in HiSec.
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
770
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Posted - 2016.02.24 21:03:07 -
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Yea, OP seems to want to play the good girl. And CVA is almost a lone shining gem of "good" in eve sov null. Like I said, Good peeps.
I still have about half a billion of stuf in providence that I should probably move out.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Tiffany Hope
Mandalorian Arms
18
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Posted - 2016.02.24 21:13:02 -
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So I should make another character that is Amarr and join them?
Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25956
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Posted - 2016.02.24 21:17:32 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:So I should make another character that is Amarr and join them? No need, they won't mind what race your character is as long as you follow their rules.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Tiffany Hope
Mandalorian Arms
18
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Posted - 2016.02.24 21:29:21 -
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oh ok. But if I am looking to join a corporation they would be a good option?
Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
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Tiffany Hope
Mandalorian Arms
18
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Posted - 2016.02.24 21:30:09 -
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Just until I am good enough to start my own and take over the universe of course :)
Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
770
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Posted - 2016.02.24 21:56:50 -
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CVA is an alliance of corporations. Although things do change, CVA usually owns half of Providence outright, and rents out the rest to other Alliances that accept the NRDS policy.
AFAIK, the only CVA member corp that is strictly Amarr is PIE. But they have a public channel, "Pie public" where you can go and ask around. If you indicate interest in joining CVA, i'm sure they can point you in the right direction.
A lot of corps will have a public channel. It is a good way to meet the new corp and decide if they act in way you can tolerate.
Some corp might seem great from the adds and all. But then you get in and TS is just filled with racial epithets, shock pics, and porn. Others try to be family oriented and keep everything safe for work at all times. So I strongly encourage you to meet people, as others have said.
The tools are nice, but they just point out opportunities, you still have to do the work.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Tiffany Hope
Mandalorian Arms
18
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Posted - 2016.02.24 22:11:23 -
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So someone said I would be a lot more likely to find a good corp that will take me far if I let them know I am DTF. How do I know if I am and what is it?
Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
771
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Posted - 2016.02.24 23:46:31 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:So someone said I would be a lot more likely to find a good corp that will take me far if I let them know I am DTF. How do I know if I am and what is it?
I dunno that one. I hope it's not a veiled insult.
edit - Actually, google makes it look like a definite insult. Ignore that asshat. Just follow the advice we have been giving you, and use that how to find a corp 3.0 sticky. It is literally years of experience condensed into text.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Tiffany Hope
Mandalorian Arms
18
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Posted - 2016.02.25 00:02:31 -
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Ok. Yeah I had to leave those recruitment places. I literally cried :(
Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
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Hyeon Ansuya
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2016.02.25 00:53:16 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:Arkoth 24 wrote:CVA is self-proclaimed law-maker alliance in Providence 0.0-region. Peace keepers. Some kind of police. Liars.
Once you will violate their rules - they will put you on their Kill-On-Sight list, so CVA-members may attack you freely, and Providence will become just average null-sec space for ya.
They talk 'bout "Safe Providence", a null-sec region, where everyone may be happy and free. But Providence is just a hunting ground full of careless fools, who believe that bullshit. Their rules are pretty straightforward. They are one of the oldest alliances in the game. If you 'PvE' and don't go around actively attacking other players that are not hostile towards you, you won't have an issue with CVA. The gripers about CVA want to play on the darker side of the game, which is fine, but CVA intentionally plays the good guys and bad guys don't like them. What I'm not fond of with CVA is that they have a history of being very racist and biased towards Amarr, self extending Amarrian space into Providence. There's a few good You Tube videos on this history. Rumor has it that recently they have backed off the racial warpath and while still actively proclaiming Amarr, they aren't so brutal about it any more. If you have a negative status with Amarr, you may find yourself with problems in CVA space. However, you'll likely find them far more hospitable than CODE or similar groups that even try to bug folks in HiSec.
I am already liking these guys and I'll definitely go look for them at some point. Yep, I'm Amarr. Sorry for the intrusion in this thread and thanks for the precious information!
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Tiffany Hope
Mandalorian Arms
18
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Posted - 2016.02.25 01:47:43 -
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Hyeon Ansuya wrote:Pandora Carrollon wrote:Arkoth 24 wrote:CVA is self-proclaimed law-maker alliance in Providence 0.0-region. Peace keepers. Some kind of police. Liars.
Once you will violate their rules - they will put you on their Kill-On-Sight list, so CVA-members may attack you freely, and Providence will become just average null-sec space for ya.
They talk 'bout "Safe Providence", a null-sec region, where everyone may be happy and free. But Providence is just a hunting ground full of careless fools, who believe that bullshit. Their rules are pretty straightforward. They are one of the oldest alliances in the game. If you 'PvE' and don't go around actively attacking other players that are not hostile towards you, you won't have an issue with CVA. The gripers about CVA want to play on the darker side of the game, which is fine, but CVA intentionally plays the good guys and bad guys don't like them. What I'm not fond of with CVA is that they have a history of being very racist and biased towards Amarr, self extending Amarrian space into Providence. There's a few good You Tube videos on this history. Rumor has it that recently they have backed off the racial warpath and while still actively proclaiming Amarr, they aren't so brutal about it any more. If you have a negative status with Amarr, you may find yourself with problems in CVA space. However, you'll likely find them far more hospitable than CODE or similar groups that even try to bug folks in HiSec. I am already liking these guys and I'll definitely go look for them at some point. Yep, I'm Amarr. Sorry for the intrusion in this thread and thanks for the precious information! Not quite sure I understand what just happened?
Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
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Memphis Baas
1196
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Posted - 2016.02.25 02:05:19 -
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Other newbies are reading your thread and liking the information it contains.
So, in-game, you can open the People and Places icon and type Curatores Veritatis and find the alliance. Then right-click and show info, and look at the Members tab. There you will see all the corporations that are in the alliance.
Show info on each corporation and they'll have public channels listed, where you can join the channel and talk to them, see if they're recruiting and/or willing to take newbies.
Otherwise, you can also try to set up a profile on their alliance forum (I linked it in a previous post) and chat with them there.
As far as people being vulgar to you, report them for harassment.
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Arkoth 24
Phayder
57
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Posted - 2016.02.25 08:52:18 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:As far as people being vulgar to you, report them for harassment. ...And see what will be happen next. |
gfldex
741
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Posted - 2016.02.25 09:08:33 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:While I have everyone as well. Someone sent me money in the game with a note that said "trololol" Why?
There is no reason not to name names. I do stand to my in game actions.
The term "trololo" is a reference to Eduard Khil (see Wikipedia for a good explanation for his very reasonable actions.). The act of sending you ISK was a response to your claim not to have received handouts. You are not alone in conducting social experiments.
If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
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gfldex
741
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Posted - 2016.02.25 09:20:55 -
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Tiffany Hope wrote:But everyone keeps saying people stab you in the back or lie and cheat and steel and if possible I would like to minimise my chances of having that happen to me :(
That may actually happen (I personally was never hit but a former corp of mine lost about 100B to a corp theft that later lead to a perma ban of the thief. The latter should make clear what really happened.). However, where can you be cheated on, stolen from and stabbed at and it doesn't really matter? It's just a game after all. You can do a lot of stuff in this game that you could not (like dieing in battle 3 times in a single day) or would not want to do outside of a game. That freedom comes with a cost. It can also happen to you. Any player can provide you with a challenge and that challenge doesn't even have to be announced. Quite in contrast to pretty much any other online game, you are allowed to fail that challenge.
Embrace your dark side - it leads to glory!
If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
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gfldex
741
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Posted - 2016.02.25 09:44:58 -
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Since it seams not to be mention yet I would like to give you the advice to see if your play hours line up with the active hours of the corp of you choosing. If I understood you right, you live on the sunny side of the globe so your timezone correlates with bedtime for most players. Since any corp that takes you (or any other noob) will likely be desperate for members, expect the recruiter to lie. You can check a public killboard to see when they lose ships. That tends to be the time when their members are online.
While you hunt for a corp you may want to talk to Sister Alitura. She is a real nice lass and much favoured by many capsuleers. If you happen to "lose" Dagan, I would be more the happy to help you out. I tend to have a few spare and are always happy to part with one - for just 5M ISK.
If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
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Arkoth 24
Phayder
57
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Posted - 2016.02.25 10:41:35 -
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Iria Ahrens wrote:Yea, OP seems to want to play the good girl. And CVA is almost a lone shining gem of "good" in eve sov null. Like I said, Good peeps. As long as supporting slavery and religious prejudice is a good thing. Sometimes slaves just don't want to understand what is good for 'em.
There are no good people in New Eden. Sometimes there are just bad people doing right things. |
Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
47
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Posted - 2016.02.25 18:21:11 -
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Arkoth 24 wrote:Iria Ahrens wrote:Yea, OP seems to want to play the good girl. And CVA is almost a lone shining gem of "good" in eve sov null. Like I said, Good peeps. As long as supporting slavery and religious prejudice is a good thing. Sometimes slaves just don't want to understand what is good for 'em. There are no good people in New Eden. Sometimes there are just bad people doing right things.
So if it was the Gallente that CVA supported, you'd just rationalize your position by finding something horrible that that nation does and fill it in... yeah, I get it.
Good and Evil aren't absolutes... they are paths one trods upon. The paths can intersect and change but it's up to us to choose which we walk down on a given moment for a given time. The only thing we can control in this life is ourselves.
People are not good or bad, choices are.
What CVA is doing from a game perspective is entirely good. None of those players are enslaving anyone, it's just a role. They are actually keeping a null sec area of space mostly free and workable, something that can't be said for other null sec areas.
I do believe that is what is trying to be said here, not picking on a fictional race like the Amarr for their fictional slavery. I think we are talking real cause and effect.
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Arkoth 24
Phayder
60
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Posted - 2016.02.25 19:57:42 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:Good and Evil aren't absolutes... Don't. Even. Start. |
Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
49
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Posted - 2016.02.25 20:44:56 -
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Arkoth 24 wrote:Pandora Carrollon wrote:Good and Evil aren't absolutes... Don't. Even. Start.
I didn't, just pointed out some reality there.
To be frank, I don't mind people messing around with Role Playing in the forums as long as it's understood that it's Role Playing and not reality. When the context changes to reality, it's not the best place or time for serious RP. Fun RP is a different matter, so I'm trying to take what you said in that context... fun. However, if you were serious, I was pointing out the reality context.
On to other fun! |
Tiffany Hope
Mandalorian Arms
18
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Posted - 2016.02.25 23:15:39 -
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My mail icon says I have 6 unread mail but when I go to mail it says its not available during downtime... but its like 9am?
Just like a butterfly, I'm pretty to look at but hard to catch :)
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