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Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.04 18:13:00 - [151] OK, how many small corporations (~20-30 members) do you know that, without an alliance to back them up, field capital ships in low-sec? Do you know of many who would field them, and stay around when a bunch of cynos popped up in the same system they were? The argument in this thread seems to be focused on: a) X is not a PvP:er - well, that's just stupid. If there was no PvP, he wouldn't have been fighting. The fact that Octobersnow aren't used to people taking the fight to them, is that seldomly does anything short of an alliance have enough assets and resources to engage capital ships in low-sec. I don't even care about the "#1 PvP:er in EVE", that's something they say to **** the people with small egos around, and quite obviously it works. b) Tiller logged, lol! - Allright, this brings me to a point where I start to wonder about whether those who have been in combat, EVER, and experience capital ships fight. Usually, even with the best of computer equipment, such fights are immensely laggy, to the point where the fight can be decided by who lags the least (better connection). Particularly this occurs near a POS, and with dozens of drones and other ships in the same small area of space. Now, most people do NOT have approx. 1,000,000,000 of ISK in implants stuck in their head (and even more so, would be out PvP:ing with that) (kudos). Tiller does, What surprises me is how there was no covops to probe his pod down after the fight. [OMG! SMASH!]
Qui Chen Seraphin Technologies	Posted - 2007.02.04 18:20:00 - [152] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin ... What surprises me is how there was no covops to probe his pod down after the fight. ... because tiller isn't stupid and logged back in time ;) these guys know what they do, ok?! cya in space
Dr Slice OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.04 18:47:00 - [153] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin OK, how many small corporations (~20-30 members) do you know that, without an alliance to back them up, field capital ships in low-sec? Do you know of many who would field them, and stay around when a bunch of cynos popped up in the same system they were? The argument in this thread seems to be focused on: a) X is not a PvP:er - well, that's just stupid. If there was no PvP, he wouldn't have been fighting. The fact that Octobersnow aren't used to people taking the fight to them, is that seldomly does anything short of an alliance have enough assets and resources to engage capital ships in low-sec. I don't even care about the "#1 PvP:er in EVE", that's something they say to **** the people with small egos around, and quite obviously it works. b) Tiller logged, lol! - Allright, this brings me to a point where I start to wonder about whether those who have been in combat, EVER, and experience capital ships fight. Usually, even with the best of computer equipment, such fights are immensely laggy, to the point where the fight can be decided by who lags the least (better connection). Particularly this occurs near a POS, and with dozens of drones and other ships in the same small area of space. Now, most people do NOT have approx. 1,000,000,000 of ISK in implants stuck in their head (and even more so, would be out PvP:ing with that) (kudos). Tiller does, What surprises me is how there was no covops to probe his pod down after the fight. Very insightful post Tobias. And very logical also. Unfortunately, many cannot see past their own bias and subjective emotions to uncover the truth. Well done.
sturmi Liga Freier Terraner	Posted - 2007.02.04 19:01:00 - [154] Edited by: sturmi on 04/02/2007 18:57:56 ... but in the end, we all had fun And it is also good to know that tiller has a sh*tload of isk in his head, we will try to get your POD Look on our Killboard: LFT Killboard
Krulla Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.02.04 19:15:00 - [155] Originally by: tiller Do my claims threaten you some how ?, I only state that fact in my sig as I believe it to be true. Ginger is numero uno... Claiming you are the "best" or second best, or whatever, is just plain ignorant. Now, you're probably a damn good PvPer (I wouldn't know, I haven't fought you). Hell, you might probably BE the best PvPer, of your type (which is piracy). However, someone else might be a better interceptor pilot than you, someone else might be a better fleet commander, etc. Claiming you are the best or second best PvPer in EvE is ignorant, simply because PvP in Eve is so diverse; For instance, lowsec piracy has little in common with a outpost takeover; both are, however, valid forms of PvP. Sigs are for noobs.
vile56 Nubs. Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.02.04 19:25:00 - [156] seeing as how this will get locked soon, i got a question for you tiller you said you didnt care about your dread cause it was just pixels, well arnt the imps just pixels aswell? and tbh at least he admited it i guess
Alumion Amarr Dragons of the Twilight Sun	Posted - 2007.02.04 19:26:00 - [157] He did it to stay in the spotlight --- sig under construction
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.04 19:37:00 - [158] Originally by: vile56 seeing as how this will get locked soon, i got a question for you tiller you said you didnt care about your dread cause it was just pixels, well arnt the imps just pixels aswell? and tbh at least he admited it i guess I cant afford to replace those pixels and they give me a good edge in pvp. Visit the no.2 PVPer in eve : http://www.october-snow.com/
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.02.04 20:05:00 - [159] samirol you joined october snow Manlove by Zaphod Jones
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.04 20:06:00 - [160] Edited by: tiller on 04/02/2007 20:02:53 Originally by: Murukan samirol you joined october snow It's where all the best PVPers are these days... Visit the no.2 PVPer in eve : http://www.october-snow.com/
Francis Reighn Amarr Liga Freier Terraner	Posted - 2007.02.04 20:07:00 - [161] OMG, i cant read it anymore. IN FACT WE ALL GOT FUN in that little Engagement. That was a nice Saturday Night and in the End with 2 much Beer. Cya in Space
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.02.04 20:10:00 - [162] Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 04/02/2007 20:02:53 Originally by: Murukan samirol you joined october snow It's where all the best PVPers are these days... not hardly Manlove by Zaphod Jones
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.04 20:12:00 - [163] Originally by: Murukan Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 04/02/2007 20:02:53 Originally by: Murukan samirol you joined october snow It's where all the best PVPers are these days... not hardly You agree then ? Visit the no.2 PVPer in eve : http://www.october-snow.com/
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.04 20:15:00 - [164] Being the best, and having people agree with that you are the best are not always mutual concepts. Only when being the best, and being humble about it do they interlink. Otherwise, being best is just a popularity contest. [OMG! SMASH!]
Dr Slice OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.04 20:30:00 - [165] You're the Best LOL
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.02.04 20:54:00 - [166] i could just see the audio lifted from southpark's wow episode and put onto a fraps of this. "alright this is it".... ------------- Midshipman Lithalnas - Logistics Division - Hadean Drive Yards
Marko Debreault 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.02.04 20:55:00 - [167] Logging is not ok. Play the game the way its intended, and don't justify your cheating with cheesy, stupid excuses.
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.04 21:01:00 - [168] Edited by: tiller on 04/02/2007 21:00:19 Edited by: tiller on 04/02/2007 20:57:59 Originally by: Marko Debreault Logging is not ok. Play the game the way its intended, and don't justify your cheating with cheesy, stupid excuses. ...my 'cheating' was to overcome the servers shortcoming for handling 200 drones and fighters orbiting me. If there was no lag I'd just warp... As it stands I'd prefer to logski from now on, when CCP give the all clear that it's fixed then sure, I'll stay in game. (like YOU say we should play the way the games intended ie INSTANT WARP WHEN I CLICK WARP) I refer you to my previous posts, I don't need excuses as I don't see any problem with what I did and as such don't give a dam what you or anyone else thinks. edit: oooOOOO I sound angry there lol Visit the no.2 PVPer in eve : http://www.october-snow.com/
Vensa Heckler Clarf Inc	Posted - 2007.02.04 21:02:00 - [169] Originally by: tiller Originally by: Murukan Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 04/02/2007 20:02:53 Originally by: Murukan samirol you joined october snow It's where all the best PVPers are these days... not hardly You agree then ? losing 2 dreads and a carrier to a small pos assault blatantly makes you the "best" at pvp tiller, or at least very "special"... oh and, i LOL'd :P - Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.04 21:03:00 - [170] Originally by: Marko Debreault Logging is not ok. Play the game the way its intended, and don't justify your cheating with cheesy, stupid excuses. You're reasoning under the assumption that there is a valid way to get away with your pod without logging. Which under the circumstances there isn't. There is simply no way of saving your pod through in-game means in such a laggy situation. Hence logging is THE ONLY WAY to save your implants. Are you saying you would volontarily throw away 1 bil ISK like that because people on some stupid forum thought that was the 'best' way to play EVE? Quit fooling yourself. [OMG! SMASH!]
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.04 21:06:00 - [171] Originally by: Vensa Heckler losing 2 dreads and a carrier to a small pos assault blatantly makes you the "best" at pvp tiller, or at least very "special"... oh and, i LOL'd :P You realize they lost fighting against 7 hostile capital ships? Go back to your hole. [OMG! SMASH!]
Carth Jared Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.02.04 21:08:00 - [172] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Originally by: Marko Debreault Logging is not ok. Play the game the way its intended, and don't justify your cheating with cheesy, stupid excuses. You're reasoning under the assumption that there is a valid way to get away with your pod without logging. Which under the circumstances there isn't. There is simply no way of saving your pod through in-game means in such a laggy situation. Hence logging is THE ONLY WAY to save your implants. Are you saying you would volontarily throw away 1 bil ISK like that because people on some stupid forum thought that was the 'best' way to play EVE? Quit fooling yourself. Unless you're sitting in a dictor bubble, which in this scenario was impossible, there is definantly a way to get out without logging off. You just have to figure out how now
Vensa Heckler Clarf Inc	Posted - 2007.02.04 21:12:00 - [173] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Originally by: Marko Debreault Logging is not ok. Play the game the way its intended, and don't justify your cheating with cheesy, stupid excuses. You're reasoning under the assumption that there is a valid way to get away with your pod without logging. Which under the circumstances there isn't. There is simply no way of saving your pod through in-game means in such a laggy situation. Hence logging is THE ONLY WAY to save your implants. Are you saying you would volontarily throw away 1 bil ISK like that because people on some stupid forum thought that was the 'best' way to play EVE? Quit fooling yourself. no, warping into a bubble camp is volontarily throwing away however much your clone is worth. quitting the game to exploit the insta-warp feature and saving your money is just that, an exploit. - Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law
Vensa Heckler Clarf Inc	Posted - 2007.02.04 21:16:00 - [174] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Originally by: Vensa Heckler losing 2 dreads and a carrier to a small pos assault blatantly makes you the "best" at pvp tiller, or at least very "special"... oh and, i LOL'd :P You realize they lost fighting against 7 hostile capital ships? Go back to your hole. you do realise it was a small pos right? pvp isn't just pew pew, if those guys were so good, they wouldn't have let themselves get into a situation where they could lose 3 cap ships against a small pos - Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.02.04 21:18:00 - [175] doesnt autopilot insta warp you when you get into your pod? ------------- Midshipman Lithalnas - Logistics Division - Hadean Drive Yards
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.04 21:21:00 - [176] Edited by: tiller on 04/02/2007 21:21:59 Edited by: tiller on 04/02/2007 21:19:02 Originally by: Vensa Heckler Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Originally by: Vensa Heckler losing 2 dreads and a carrier to a small pos assault blatantly makes you the "best" at pvp tiller, or at least very "special"... oh and, i LOL'd :P You realize they lost fighting against 7 hostile capital ships? Go back to your hole. you do realise it was a small pos right? pvp isn't just pew pew, if those guys were so good, they wouldn't have let themselves get into a situation where they could lose 3 cap ships against a small pos So how do you tell if 7 cap ships are about to cyno on top of you until the last second ? We knew they had 7-10 BS 1 system away but they didn't seems any threat and certainly nothing that we could not handle. We were unaware of their possesion of this cap fleet... Both our dreads were committed to staying as in siege mode and Ginger being the brave pilot he is decided to stay and help even though we had a exit cyno open for a quick partial evac. Most others in our small gang also decided to stay with the dreads and help... only exception being the archon guy who was a new pilot without cap reps 'just taking it for a spin' Visit the no.2 PVPer in eve : http://www.october-snow.com/
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.04 21:25:00 - [177] Originally by: Lithalnas doesnt autopilot insta warp you when you get into your pod? Nope, it can work by quick hitting it repeatedly but in this situation you just lagski making logski the only option Visit the no.2 PVPer in eve : http://www.october-snow.com/
Vensa Heckler Clarf Inc	Posted - 2007.02.04 21:28:00 - [178] Originally by: tiller Originally by: Vensa Heckler Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Originally by: Vensa Heckler losing 2 dreads and a carrier to a small pos assault blatantly makes you the "best" at pvp tiller, or at least very "special"... oh and, i LOL'd :P You realize they lost fighting against 7 hostile capital ships? Go back to your hole. you do realise it was a small pos right? pvp isn't just pew pew, if those guys were so good, they wouldn't have let themselves get into a situation where they could lose 3 cap ships against a small pos So how do you tell if 7 cap ships are about to cyno on top of you until the last second ? Both our dreads were committed to staying as in siege mode and Ginger being the brave pilot he is decided to stay and help even though we had a exit cyno open for a quick partial evac. Most others in our small gang also decided to stay with the dreads and help... only exception being the archon guy who was a new pilot without cap reps 'just taking it for a spin' hey, i ain't gonna tell you how to play the game mate. if you choose to use dynamite to ***** nuts, don't think its not your fault when you lose an arm. - Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.02.04 21:31:00 - [179] Edited by: tiller on 04/02/2007 21:30:01 Originally by: Vensa Heckler hey, i ain't gonna tell you how to play the game mate. if you choose to use dynamite to ***** nuts, don't think its not your fault when you lose an arm. I thought for a minute you actually knew something I didn't. Why did you go through all that trouble of telling me how we should of spotted the inc cap ships when you actually don't know yourself Visit the no.2 PVPer in eve : http://www.october-snow.com/
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.04 21:32:00 - [180] Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 04/02/2007 21:29:24 Originally by: Vensa Heckler Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Originally by: Vensa Heckler losing 2 dreads and a carrier to a small pos assault blatantly makes you the "best" at pvp tiller, or at least very "special"... oh and, i LOL'd :P You realize they lost fighting against 7 hostile capital ships? Go back to your hole. A dread in reinforced mode takes quite awhile to get out of reinforced mode. Even if there was delay between the cyno and the hostile capitals jumping in, there wasn't enough time. How do I know, I wasn't there. Simply because these guys DO know how to fight, they've been around. And who are you again? Quote: you do realise it was a small pos right? pvp isn't just pew pew, if those guys were so good, they wouldn't have let themselves get into a situation where they could lose 3 cap ships against a small pos Sometimes circumstances are out of your control. If you haven't found that out in your time in EVE, boy are you going to be in for a surprise. [OMG! SMASH!]

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