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CCP Quant
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.03.04 15:59:37 -
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Hi guys,
Back in October on EVE Vegas I made some promises that we were going to put out a Monthly Economic Report that would consist of a lot of graphs and csv data dumps. This is different from Dr. Eyj+¦'s popular QEN's in that there is no written analysis included. There are two reasons for this:
- The written part and all the manual work that Dr. Eyjo and CCP Recurve had to do back then was really what killed the reports. They were too time consuming. A lot of this is done in free time outside of business hours, so I wrote some R and SQL scripts that can be executed every month to automatically generate these reports and the data dumps, making the little work in doing so justifiable
- Players who are interested, like mr. Lockefox on the EVE Prosper show to name an example, can take this data and these graphs and publish their own analysis to the EVE community.
A few things have delayed the first release, us moving our data processing infrastructure to a new data center playing a big role, but also the fact that this is really not a part of my job as a Senior Business Analyst, so this goes to the very end of the priority queue. It is no coincidence that most of my releases are done on Fridays (lowest workload during the week).
In this thread I will gather interesting ideas and improvements to these reports. My list of things to add currently is like this:
- Graphs+data on PI
- Graphs+data on W-Space
Maybe some time in the future the code that generates these graphs and tables can be put on github so I can take proper bug reports and feature requests.
THE GRAPHS
THE DATA+RAW GRAPHS |
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Krevnos
Back Door Burglars
The Otherworld
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Posted - 2016.03.04 16:06:43 -
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Reserved :-)
I am eager to review this new data when I get home! |
Kenneth en Chieve
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.03.04 16:07:41 -
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Wow, very cool charts. Thanks for creating them. :) |
Caleb Ayrania
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
283
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Posted - 2016.03.04 16:19:35 -
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This also looks remarkably like a post that could go in "Market Discussion".. |
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
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Posted - 2016.03.04 16:27:09 -
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CCP Quant you are a wizard! Amazing work!! |
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
297
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Posted - 2016.03.04 16:30:52 -
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Cool!
@lunettelulu7
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
2391
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Posted - 2016.03.04 16:31:09 -
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This is very cool stuff. Thanks for taking the time to make scripts for this.
If you're interested in additional data suggestions, could we have a breakdown of sinks and faucets across bands of space? In particular, I'd be interested in seeing Bounty Prizes and Incursions broken up along highsec, lowsec, and nullsec.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Cristl
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Posted - 2016.03.04 16:32:21 -
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Great stuff!
Also: let's look at incursions and nullsec bounties. I can't believe they are so ahead of agent rewards. Basically what I take from this is that every time people piss and whinge about mission runners they are just talking shite. |
Rob Kaichin
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
14
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Posted - 2016.03.04 16:39:03 -
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Querns wrote:
If you're interested in additional data suggestions, could we have a breakdown of sinks and faucets across bands of space? In particular, I'd be interested in seeing Bounty Prizes and Incursions broken up along highsec, lowsec, and nullsec.
I'd like to echo this and ask for a LP breakdown too if possible.
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
2391
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Posted - 2016.03.04 16:41:06 -
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Cristl wrote:Great stuff!
Also: let's look at incursions and nullsec bounties. I can't believe they are so ahead of agent rewards. Basically what I take from this is that every time people piss and whinge about mission runners they are just talking shite.
To be fair, Bounty Prizes includes rat kills across all bands of k-space. While I don't doubt that nullsec makes up a majority of that number, I'd like to see a breakdown across k-space security bands.
Also, they're implementing a fairly catastrophic nerf to nullsec ratting with the capital expansion; this number should decrease significantly in May.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1899
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Posted - 2016.03.04 16:49:38 -
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Could you include contracts in some of these #s? A great portion of null economic activity is in the form of contracts.
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aldhura
Bartledannians
Nite Owls
35
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Posted - 2016.03.04 16:55:30 -
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I am assuming bounties is for all regions, it would be nice to see a low, high and null split.
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Rob Kaichin
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
15
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Posted - 2016.03.04 16:55:49 -
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Aryth wrote:Could you include contracts in some of these #s? A great portion of null economic activity is in the form of contracts.
Wouldn't contracts be included in the export/import volumes already?
To CCP: what are the dark blue bars in the import/export table? |
Max Kolonko
WATAHA.
Fidelas Constans
591
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Posted - 2016.03.04 17:03:51 -
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As a R trainee I would love to get my hands on Your R scripts that generated the graphs.
Read and support:
Don't mess with OUR WH's
What is Your stance on WH stuff?
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Fidelas Constans
2989
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Posted - 2016.03.04 17:12:03 -
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Wtf happened to isk velocity in January? |
Rob Kaichin
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
15
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Posted - 2016.03.04 17:14:50 -
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Rowells wrote:Wtf happened to isk velocity in January?
Skill Injectors! |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
2392
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Posted - 2016.03.04 17:15:17 -
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Rowells wrote:Wtf happened to isk velocity in January?
Skill injectors and extractors.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
2392
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Posted - 2016.03.04 17:24:48 -
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Rob Kaichin wrote:Aryth wrote:Could you include contracts in some of these #s? A great portion of null economic activity is in the form of contracts. Wouldn't contracts be included in the export/import volumes already? To CCP Quant: what are the dark blue bars in the import/export table?
He's interested in WTS contracts, not couriers.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Ravcharas
Infinite Point
Northern Army
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Posted - 2016.03.04 17:35:54 -
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CCP Quant wrote:A lot of this is done in free time outside of business hours
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Rob Kaichin
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
15
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Posted - 2016.03.04 17:40:04 -
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Querns wrote:Rob Kaichin wrote:Aryth wrote:Could you include contracts in some of these #s? A great portion of null economic activity is in the form of contracts. Wouldn't contracts be included in the export/import volumes already? To CCP Quant: what are the dark blue bars in the import/export table? He's interested in WTS contracts, not couriers.
Thanks for explaining that.
To CCP Quant (again), could we get a breakdown of Market Taxes by region, and by systems in Highsec? It'd be good to be able to project how the 5-6% tax increase will play out. |
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
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Posted - 2016.03.04 18:16:00 -
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Rob Kaichin wrote:
To anyone that can answer the question: what are the dark blue bars in the import/export table?
The difference of it's counterpart. Hence the dark red bars when the export becomes bigger than its import counterpart.
Very nice stuff! I'm sure Chribba will like this as well as he's addicted to graphs
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Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
193
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Posted - 2016.03.04 18:16:39 -
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Querns wrote:Cristl wrote:Great stuff!
Also: let's look at incursions and nullsec bounties. I can't believe they are so ahead of agent rewards. Basically what I take from this is that every time people piss and whinge about mission runners they are just talking shite. To be fair, Bounty Prizes includes rat kills across all bands of k-space. While I don't doubt that nullsec makes up a majority of that number, I'd like to see a breakdown across k-space security bands. Also, they're implementing a fairly catastrophic nerf to nullsec ratting with the capital expansion; this number should decrease significantly in May.
Seeing a before and after graph would be interesting. We think it will be catastrophic but would the numbers support the claim?
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Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
3414
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Posted - 2016.03.04 18:20:34 -
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Querns wrote:This is very cool stuff. Thanks for taking the time to make scripts for this.
If you're interested in additional data suggestions, could we have a breakdown of sinks and faucets across bands of space? In particular, I'd be interested in seeing Bounty Prizes and Incursions broken up along highsec, lowsec, and nullsec.
Would be nice if it was normalized for per capita in that region
m
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Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
193
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Posted - 2016.03.04 18:22:32 -
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The bounty breakdown would be nice but could it be broken down further?
Mission level bounty (lvl 1, 2, 3, and 4)
Opportunity ratting by system sec level (Opportunity ratting = belt/gates)
Anomaly ratting
Combat exploration
Data site rats (for the Drone regions - interesting to know ho much activity actually occurs here)
This granularity, if possible, might help people better understand, poise or refute general open ended claims.
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin.
DARKNESS.
2352
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Posted - 2016.03.04 18:26:05 -
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So, despite lower player numbers on the server, Production is up, Mining is Up, Destruction is Up, more things are imported and exported around the universe. Looks very healthy to me.
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Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
3414
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Posted - 2016.03.04 18:28:59 -
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Ravcharas wrote:CCP Quant wrote:A lot of this is done in free time outside of business hours
It is amazing how much of Dev-Player interaction is off hours volunteer on their side.
m
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
Naquatech Syndicate
1883
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Posted - 2016.03.04 18:58:00 -
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Something about PI production if possible if not value/m3 than maybe in %
Akrasjel Lanate
Founder and CEO of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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Thurifer Censer
Virtus Crusade
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1
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Posted - 2016.03.04 19:59:20 -
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Looking at the Economic Indices graph. If the Consumer Price Index has fallen while the Producer, Secondary Producer and Mineral Price indices have all risen that means margins are getting crushed.... am I reading that correctly? |
Alyxportur
From Our Cold Dead Hands
115
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Posted - 2016.03.04 20:03:57 -
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Thank you for posting this. I do hope it becomes a monthly habit. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
4844
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Posted - 2016.03.04 21:31:27 -
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I would be interested to know if possible how much ISK is inmobilized in lapsed accounts each month, as my hunch is that it's one serious sink; money that is gathered and then effectively stops moving in the game thus is removed from the ecomomy.
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62% of players: "We're not interested. May we have Plan B, please?"
CCP Seagull: "What Plan B?"
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