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Per Ole Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.02.09 21:29:00 - [121] guys, lay off the girls for a bit. Maybe this channel isn't benifictal for us, it doesn't make any difference for us so leave it alone. And by trying to deny the girls to have their own chat room is what I call selfish
Na'Kunni Amarr Athanasius Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.09 22:42:00 - [122] Originally by: Crumplecorn Women should have their own channel tbh. WTF would we talk to them about anyway? Depends how many beers you have down you --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Drake Stormsailor	Posted - 2007.02.09 23:22:00 - [123] Originally by: Liu Kaskakka You girls should be nicer to each other. That Feline girl on your forums is crying her eyes out coz you're not her friends anymore (whining on the forums with her alt, Pookie). This is why. imho any how. Drake
Drake Stormweaver Caldari Blueprint Haus Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.09 23:25:00 - [124] ^^^ Is me.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.02.10 00:36:00 - [125] Originally by: Karl Shade Edited by: Karl Shade on 09/02/2007 20:42:35 Originally by: Derovius Vaden stuff Nerdrage. In the Engg. department, we have a noticable lack of female students. As such, everytime I hear about some women-only scholarships, or women-only student associations, it **es me right off. They *** and moan about how hard it is as a woman in Engineering, and how male engineers don't take them serious, than go and sit on the so-called silk pillow and float through school on someone elses hardwork. Goddamn right, nerdrage.
Karl Shade FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 01:27:00 - [126] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Karl Shade Edited by: Karl Shade on 09/02/2007 20:42:35 Originally by: Derovius Vaden stuff Nerdrage. In the Engg. department, we have a noticable lack of female students. As such, everytime I hear about some women-only scholarships, or women-only student associations, it **es me right off. They *** and moan about how hard it is as a woman in Engineering, and how male engineers don't take them serious, than go and sit on the so-called silk pillow and float through school on someone elses hardwork. Goddamn right, nerdrage. Then I suggest you deal with those issues rather than bashing what chat-channel some people use in an online game. -
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.02.10 01:30:00 - [127] Originally by: Karl Shade Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Karl Shade Edited by: Karl Shade on 09/02/2007 20:42:35 Originally by: Derovius Vaden stuff Nerdrage. In the Engg. department, we have a noticable lack of female students. As such, everytime I hear about some women-only scholarships, or women-only student associations, it **es me right off. They *** and moan about how hard it is as a woman in Engineering, and how male engineers don't take them serious, than go and sit on the so-called silk pillow and float through school on someone elses hardwork. Goddamn right, nerdrage. Then I suggest you deal with those issues rather than bashing what chat-channel some people use in an online game. The issues you refer to are no different than the issues at hand. A small population of EVE think they are special, and want others to make them feel special. As far as I'm concerned, if I find a female player in EVE, I will strongly suggest she play like any other member of the community. The idea of a one sex channel is foolish.
Dario Wall Caldari The Movement	Posted - 2007.02.10 02:04:00 - [128] I think having a 'female only' channel is a pretty cool idea actually. I'm not a girl playing a male character, but I have known a few female gamers before in various games. A lot of times they would end up getting harrassed by guys, and it made them feel very uncomfortable. Having a place for the female gamers to chat with like-minded people can be very helpful for them if something starts to bug them. One thing that really irritates me is when other guys treat girls as objects, and not as people. I guess I'm just rambling on a bit now, so I should probably shut myself up before I get in trouble...
XxAngelxX Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.02.10 02:43:00 - [129] Tbh it's fair enough having a woman's only channel if you use the game as some kind of social outlet (primarily). I on the other hand play to play. Doesnt make much sense but I've established myself and my 2 chars as a good PVPer and Fleet Commander. A lot of the women I meet in game annoy the hell out of me with how they choose to play the game and how it seems to be some kind of chat channel. I have friends because I enjoy playing the game with them, I dont play the game because I enjoy making friends. Posts like this leave me confused. I dont see why there is a need for women to segregate themselves in different corps or channels, surely the fact we, unlike a lot of women in society today, can actually exist in such a male orientated environment is proof to all that we should be recognised as a successful and growing part of the community, and we dont need to be labelled with the same assumptions in rl in EVE because we may be a different sex. Sometimes it just seems like a cry for attention. Maybe this thread would be better off in recruitment. I dont know sometimes. But then I think too much. Not flamebait, you girls do your own thing, its just not for me. I like pew pew and leading fleets.
Zajo The Corporation Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.02.10 02:44:00 - [130] Originally by: Derovius Vaden The issues you refer to are no different than the issues at hand. A small population of EVE think they are special, and want others to make them feel special. As far as I'm concerned, if I find a female player in EVE, I will strongly suggest she play like any other member of the community. The idea of a one sex channel is foolish. For your information the females in the channel do not feel they are special, who would we feel special too? All high-five'ing each other in the private channel? Many girls prefer not to join the channel but many do. It's there for those who want to join and if they do not, no bad feelings at all. Several girls do not want to be in a gender specific channel as they see no need, those that don't mind have somewhere to go. What's so bad about that? Why don't you join our public channel and talk about this? That way you will be able to talk to the girls that do enjoy it and others that don't mind, as well as be able to talk to girls that have not joined the private channel but hang out in the public one. Hope to see you there! ----------------------------------------------- "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"
Zajo The Corporation Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.02.10 02:46:00 - [131] Originally by: XxAngelxX Tbh it's fair enough having a woman's only channel if you use the game as some kind of social outlet (primarily). I on the other hand play to play. Doesnt make much sense but I've established myself and my 2 chars as a good PVPer and Fleet Commander. A lot of the women I meet in game annoy the hell out of me with how they choose to play the game and how it seems to be some kind of chat channel. I have friends because I enjoy playing the game with them, I dont play the game because I enjoy making friends. Posts like this leave me confused. I dont see why there is a need for women to segregate themselves in different corps or channels, surely the fact we, unlike a lot of women in society today, can actually exist in such a male orientated environment is proof to all that we should be recognised as a successful and growing part of the community, and we dont need to be labelled with the same assumptions in rl in EVE because we may be a different sex. Sometimes it just seems like a cry for attention. Maybe this thread would be better off in recruitment. I dont know sometimes. But then I think too much. Not flamebait, you girls do your own thing, its just not for me. I like pew pew and leading fleets. We all play for diffrent reasons m8t, if some play to make friends and some play for the joy to kill miners, who are anyone to say that way is wrong? I respect your view of how this game should be played and only ask of you to respect others. ----------------------------------------------- "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.02.10 03:07:00 - [132] Originally by: Zajo Originally by: Derovius Vaden The issues you refer to are no different than the issues at hand. A small population of EVE think they are special, and want others to make them feel special. As far as I'm concerned, if I find a female player in EVE, I will strongly suggest she play like any other member of the community. The idea of a one sex channel is foolish. For your information the females in the channel do not feel they are special, who would we feel special too? All high-five'ing each other in the private channel? Many girls prefer not to join the channel but many do. It's there for those who want to join and if they do not, no bad feelings at all. Several girls do not want to be in a gender specific channel as they see no need, those that don't mind have somewhere to go. What's so bad about that? Why don't you join our public channel and talk about this? That way you will be able to talk to the girls that do enjoy it and others that don't mind, as well as be able to talk to girls that have not joined the private channel but hang out in the public one. Hope to see you there! There is name for something like this, its called a circle jerk; I have no interest in your public channel, nor talking to the individuals who do and do not attend your private channel. You're attempting to confuse a persons opinion with plain and simple fact. The choice of a person for something based on their gender >is< sexism; to encourage it and actively endorse it a hate crime. If CCP enforced their rules more strictly, you'd be treated with the same banhammer as the racists. Don't believe me? Replace "gender" with "race", "male" with "black person", and the argument equates the same.
Zajo The Corporation Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.02.10 03:43:00 - [133] Originally by: Derovius Vaden There is name for something like this, its called a circle jerk; I have no interest in your public channel, nor talking to the individuals who do and do not attend your private channel. You're attempting to confuse a persons opinion with plain and simple fact. The choice of a person for something based on their gender >is< sexism; to encourage it and actively endorse it a hate crime. If CCP enforced their rules more strictly, you'd be treated with the same banhammer as the racists. Don't believe me? Replace "gender" with "race", "male" with "black person", and the argument equates the same. Yet you have an interest in this thread, what are you trying to accomplish my good Sir? Don't get me wrong, you are more then free to continue your posting, if nothing else you keep bumping it and thats good imo. Though I doubt CCP will ban our channel and WGoE will not close down cause of your opinions either. But I respect your passion in this matter! ----------------------------------------------- "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"
Raquel Smith Caldari Freedom-Technologies	Posted - 2007.02.10 03:46:00 - [134] Originally by: Derovius Vaden In the Engg. department, we have a noticable lack of female students. As such, everytime I hear about some women-only scholarships, or women-only student associations, it **es me right off. They *** and moan about how hard it is as a woman in Engineering, and how male engineers don't take them serious, than go and sit on the so-called silk pillow and float through school on someone elses hardwork. Goddamn right, nerdrage. Women are offered scholarships to engineering schools and programs because jerks like you bash us and try to enjoy your "Boy's Club". Perhaps you do not overtly state it but I believe it is clear to everyone else. You have a chip on your shoulder because, perhaps, you're at your second choice school because an intelligent woman was rightly awarded an education at MIT or Caltech. Poor you, go have a nice cry and have some Ben & Jerry's.
Karl Shade FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 03:48:00 - [135] Originally by: Derovius Vaden The choice of a person for something based on their gender >is< sexism; to encourage it and actively endorse it a hate crime. Yes! More male pregnancies! I am being opressively prevented by hatebiology from bearing children! -
Savesti Kyrsst Minmatar White-Noise	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:04:00 - [136] Originally by: Derovius Vaden The choice of a person for something based on their gender >is< sexism; to encourage it and actively endorse it a hate crime. If CCP enforced their rules more strictly, you'd be treated with the same banhammer as the racists. Don't believe me? Replace "gender" with "race", "male" with "black person", and the argument equates the same. I see you feel strongly about this issue. Perhaps I can subscribe to your newsletter? If you're so upset, you should campaign about this hateful oppression closer to home. A few invasions of the women's lavatories, followed by standing around outside some black or *** groups yelling "hate criminals!" or "I'm being oppressed!" might do it. Please do tell us how you get on, good sir.
XxAngelxX Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:09:00 - [137] I again have to agree. I am a woman, I am attending a top computer science university and I do think that women in the industry get it easier. I know that when I graduate I will find it easier to get a job than most guys, purely becase of my sex and the lack of women in the industry and the rise in sexual equality. I HATE this fact. I want to be recognised because I am as good as the top people graduating. Not because I'm different to the majority. The same can be said for EVE. Why should women be recognised as anything different? We all use the same computers, load up the same client, have the same starting characters. I thought eve was somewhere where this BS didnt occur, but yet even in our minority there are always those trying to make this again about what we are out of game.
Hilabana Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:14:00 - [138] Hi Zajo Im a old man and wish to offer you free BPC's from all the BPO's that i have! If you are not upset by my offer please have what every person in your corp evemail me and let me know what ya need a lot of and i will try to help! I think it is great to see women take a stand .
Pherusa Plumosa Minmatar Freedom for All	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:25:00 - [139] This channel is a good idea. You'll get my application soon :) Originally by: Derovius Vaden In the Engg. department, we have a noticable lack of female students. As such, everytime I hear about some women-only scholarships, or women-only student associations, it **es me right off. They *** and moan about how hard it is as a woman in Engineering, and how male engineers don't take them serious, than go and sit on the so-called silk pillow and float through school on someone elses hardwork. Goddamn right, nerdrage. I'm studying Electrical Engineering, but it's always the boys copying my homework :P
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:25:00 - [140] Edited by: Derovius Vaden on 10/02/2007 04:24:20 Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst I see you feel strongly about this issue. Perhaps I can subscribe to your newsletter? No, its men-only. Quote: If you're so upset, you should campaign about this hateful oppression closer to home. A few invasions of the women's lavatories, followed by standing around outside some black or * groups yelling "hate criminals!" or "I'm being oppressed!" might do it. I tell you what, the minute the women in your private channel drop their underthings and go to the washroom, I'll be the first to sign the petition to get the channel turning into a women-only area. Quote: The same can be said for EVE. Why should women be recognised as anything different? We all use the same computers, load up the same client, have the same starting characters. I thought eve was somewhere where this BS didnt occur, but yet even in our minority there are always those trying to make this again about what we are out of game. Then take one in the chin like a big girl and go play with the rest of us. You obviously understand their immaturity, and that they are more than likely just afraid to talk plainly to the opposite sex, and thereby vent their frustrations through lewd comments. Such should be the start and the end of any problems, anything further is extenuated by your own inability to cope. While I agree that you should not have to cope, its obviously the powers that be (CCP) refuse to step in and enforce the most basic of human rights. Quote:** I'm studying Electrical Engineering, but it's always the boys copying my homework :P And I see male students copying each other as well, additional to the fact that I'm sure you compare solutions to your friends and adjust as you see the trend. Copying someone by no means implies that they have the correct solution, its a matter of trust.
Savesti Kyrsst Minmatar White-Noise	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:41:00 - [141] Originally by: Derovius Vaden No, its men-only. Oh noes, you hurt my feelings on the internets! Quote: I tell you what, the minute the women in your private channel drop their underthings and go to the washroom, I'll be the first to sign the petition to get the channel turning into a women-only area. Hmm... but, y'see, privacy in restrooms is protected by stalls. So what proximity to knickerless women is ok, and what is not? Is there some kind of internationally mandated exclusion zone? Besides, what about that thing mandates segregation, whereas as you argue other things do not? You didn't answer my query about ***, black, womens organisations etc. Surely they are a more fitting target for your campaigning zeal? I'm going to have to ask it all here. I'm still reeling from the newsletter thing
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:53:00 - [142] Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst Originally by: Derovius Vaden No, its men-only. Oh noes, you hurt my feelings on the internets! I'm tired of being harassed by men who want to learn things, I had to put my foot down. Quote: I tell you what, the minute the women in your private channel drop their underthings and go to the washroom, I'll be the first to sign the petition to get the channel turning into a women-only area. Hmm... but, y'see, privacy in restrooms is protected by stalls. So what proximity to knickerless women is ok, and what is not? Is there some kind of internationally mandated exclusion zone? I don't quite see your argument, you're saying that women should sit face to face as they urinate? or that men and women should share the same restroom? Quote: You didn't answer my query about ***, black, womens organisations etc. Surely they are a more fitting target for your campaigning zeal? This thread is not about the above mentioned topics of discussion, and never will be. They will be referenced to in an attempt to make a point, but nothing more.
Pherusa Plumosa Minmatar Freedom for All	Posted - 2007.02.10 05:10:00 - [143] I do not understand why some men are angry that they are not allowed to join. Should I feel opressed because I am not able to join BoB-intel or RA-intel? Originally by: Derovius Vaden Quote: I'm studying Electrical Engineering, but it's always the boys copying my homework :P And I see male students copying each other as well, additional to the fact that I'm sure you compare solutions to your friends and adjust as you see the trend. Copying someone by no means implies that they have the correct solution, its a matter of trust. You doubt girls can be best of an engineering class? :P
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.02.10 05:13:00 - [144] Originally by: Pherusa Plumosa I do not understand why some men are angry that they are not allowed to join. Should I feel opressed because I am not able to join BoB-intel or RA-intel? Originally by: Derovius Vaden Quote: I'm studying Electrical Engineering, but it's always the boys copying my homework :P And I see male students copying each other as well, additional to the fact that I'm sure you compare solutions to your friends and adjust as you see the trend. Copying someone by no means implies that they have the correct solution, its a matter of trust. You doubt girls can be best of an engineering class? :P I doubt most things said to make a point.
Hauler McTote	Posted - 2007.02.10 06:04:00 - [145] Lol, wtf. You dudes, grab your clubs and go out and brain something. You chicks, clean up the damn cave, its a mess.
Tiryth Malik Caldari Malik Enterprises Inc Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2007.02.10 07:24:00 - [146] I think the reason a lot of women want to be recognized for playing EVE is because CCP is trying to find ways to draw females into playing this game... being a predominately male player base, it's nice to be recognized as a RL female player that has the knowledge and skills to play this game. I myself can say I have a great corporation and alliance that treat me no differently than anyone else that plays this game. I have been playing this game for almost 2 years and I am acting CEO of my corporation, participate in mining, missions, PvP, PvE, manufacturing, production, research and development, salvaging, etc. I think the all womens channel is a good idea for women who want to interact with other female players in this game, and I find nothing wrong with that more power to you girls... BUT it works better for me to be accepted as the woman I am, able to fit in with all the guys in my corp and alliance, and be treated as just one of the guys, playing this game side by side with them. Kudos to my other four RL female alliance members (Shieldmaiden, Mina, Kat 1111, and bradshaw huggles) a big thank you to my corpmates and alliance members for treating me like everyone else and respecting me for the player I am You guys in CPU rock!!!!!
Michayel Lyon The Corporation	Posted - 2007.02.10 07:59:00 - [147] Originally by: Derovius Vaden A ** load of crap It's people like you that make me sad to be a man. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe, these women want ONE place in this game where they can be open about their true gender without having to put up with crap like "u want 2 cyber? :p"? Get a grip, ffs! If you want to be a part of this purely social-oriented group so badly, go get a damn sex change! --- Lasiverin Dark > Is everyone here allied? Red Knight > we are allied by our zombie like ability to *** missions
Tissa Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 09:33:00 - [148] Edited by: Tissa on 10/02/2007 09:29:41 I think people are blowing this all way out of proportion. "As for the Women play the game like it's some kind of chat channel" comment - that irks me slightly. The following is not directed at the lady that made it, it's just me typing out loud. Contacts in eve are vital, without people to people interaction there would be no one set to blue. There is a hellava lot of stuff going on backstage that has to happen before Pew-Pew can happen (unless you are a solo pirate obviously) I guarantee all your ceos are greeted with a myriad of blinking lights the second he/she turns his/her Eve on. I am the senior recruitment managerr (title typo) in my corp, so I spend 90% of my game time sat in station talking to people. This has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that I am a woman. I'm just quite good at making lists is all. Without us admin types everyone would be sat in a corp with 5 mates in empire. /defense of playstyle My views do not represent those of my corp or alliance. (Joined UKC 19/09/06)
Nova Z Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2007.02.10 12:12:00 - [149] Originally by: Tissa Without us admin types everyone would be sat in a corp with 5 mates in empire. /defense of playstyle Lmao! As the graphic designer for my corp's website, Squadron Captain and 'unofficial minute-taker' for leadership meetings, I agree! .
Larg Kellein Caldari GTE Corp	Posted - 2007.02.10 12:33:00 - [150] Edited by: Larg Kellein on 10/02/2007 12:30:26 Originally by: Raquel Smith Originally by: Zajo Originally by: Raquel Smith So what do you do if you're Deaf or hard of hearing? Valid question Raguel. If there is a will there is also a way. If this would happen I am sure we would figure something out. I'll have a think and may evemail you this coming week. Ok, so I read through this whole thread (couldn't tell you why...) and apart from the club swinging and silk pillow sitting extremes, this at least seems worth a suggestion: Use a webcam for the verification process? Originally by: Roy Batty68 My software has wronged me!!! And it's immediately "sorry". Well, ok then. I suppose I'm not so upset at my software if it appologizes.

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