Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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also there are no girls on the internet

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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also there are no girls on the internet

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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I don't get it why segregate yourselves unless your just going to become the View and say things like:

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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I don't get it why segregate yourselves unless your just going to become the View and say things like:

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Originally by: Arbelia Amarsa

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I don't see a problem with this and its a great idea, so long as Men have the same protected right on EVE to form men only channels in the same way.

Select groups are what the game is all about, so long as everyone has the same right.

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Originally by: Arbelia Amarsa

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I don't see a problem with this and its a great idea, so long as Men have the same protected right on EVE to form men only channels in the same way.

Select groups are what the game is all about, so long as everyone has the same right.

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Originally by: The Pointless

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Originally by: Arbelia Amarsa

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I don't see a problem with this and its a great idea, so long as Men have the same protected right on EVE to form men only channels in the same way.

Select groups are what the game is all about, so long as everyone has the same right.

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But... why is it a great idea, exactly?

I'm confused.

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Originally by: The Pointless

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Originally by: Arbelia Amarsa

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I don't see a problem with this and its a great idea, so long as Men have the same protected right on EVE to form men only channels in the same way.

Select groups are what the game is all about, so long as everyone has the same right.

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But... why is it a great idea, exactly?

I'm confused.

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Originally by: ToxicFire

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Edited by: ToxicFire on 08/02/2007 23:16:29
In the long run most people don't give a toss where you male, female, black, white, yellow, purple, pink and green with spots. Not the first thing people think of when they meet someone in the game. But still good theres a community out there that caters to every persuasion of the eve populace

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Originally by: ToxicFire

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Edited by: ToxicFire on 08/02/2007 23:16:29
In the long run most people don't give a toss where you male, female, black, white, yellow, purple, pink and green with spots. Not the first thing people think of when they meet someone in the game. But still good theres a community out there that caters to every persuasion of the eve populace

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Originally by: The Pointless

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But... why is it a great idea, exactly?

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Originally by: The Pointless

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But... why is it a great idea, exactly?

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Originally by: Michayel Lyon

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Originally by: The Pointless

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But... why is it a great idea, exactly?

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Maybe because these players, that are clearly a minority in EVE, feel a desire to communicate with others like them, without having to deal with comments like the one above? Or endless discussions about fittings and battle tactics, for that matter... ;)

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Originally by: Wrangler

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Equality does not mean not recognizing that there are differences between males and females, of course they can create a females only channel. And of course, males are equally free to create a males only channel.

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Originally by: Wrangler

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Equality does not mean not recognizing that there are differences between males and females, of course they can create a females only channel. And of course, males are equally free to create a males only channel.

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Originally by: Wrangler

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Equality does not mean not recognizing that there are differences between males and females, of course they can create a females only channel. And of course, males are equally free to create a males only channel.

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Originally by: Wrangler

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Equality does not mean not recognizing that there are differences between males and females, of course they can create a females only channel. And of course, males are equally free to create a males only channel.

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Originally by: James Snowscoran

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Hehe, judging the blatantly sexist stuff getting regularly thrown around on corp ventrilo I can see why WGOE exists.

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Originally by: Zajo

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Late in 2003, a girl named Aminida got a superb idea and started an in-game channel for females only. A channel where girls alike could hang out and talk about what ever they wanted. Since then, the channel has gone through several changes and improvements. For the last couple of months WGoE has been taking a break from interviews and recruits. Now we have finally gotten our stuff back together and eagerly await new additions to our lovely channel.

If you are a female playing EVE and want to join our channel all you need to do is contact one of our moderators:

Bianca Rhys
Malindah
Zajo

We will then set-up a day for your interview. The interview is needed to make sure you truely are female

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Originally by: Raquel Smith

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Originally by: Zajo

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Late in 2003, a girl named Aminida got a superb idea and started an in-game channel for females only. A channel where girls alike could hang out and talk about what ever they wanted. Since then, the channel has gone through several changes and improvements. For the last couple of months WGoE has been taking a break from interviews and recruits. Now we have finally gotten our stuff back together and eagerly await new additions to our lovely channel.

If you are a female playing EVE and want to join our channel all you need to do is contact one of our moderators:

Bianca Rhys
Malindah
Zajo

We will then set-up a day for your interview. The interview is needed to make sure you truely are female

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So what do you do if you're Deaf or hard of hearing?

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Originally by: Zajo

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Now may I be so bold as to ask for a sticky

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Originally by: Wrangler

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Equality does not mean not recognizing that there are differences between males and females, of course they can create a females only channel. And of course, males are equally free to create a males only channel.

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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also there are no girls on the internet

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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I don't get it why segregate yourselves unless your just going to become the View and say things like:


Zajo: Men

Channel Members: Boooo!

the same discussion arose from a now deleted post that involved some ***,tranny,bisexual channel

what ever happened to fighting for equality?

also there are no girls on the internet

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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I don't get it why segregate yourselves unless your just going to become the View and say things like:

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Originally by: ezzle

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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I don't get it why segregate yourselves unless your just going to become the View and say things like:

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Girls get hit on all the time.

Its kinda sad and pathetic, but yeah, it happens, often.

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Originally by: Rennard

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OH NOES RISE OF FEMINISHM !11111ONE!1111

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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Originally by: Wrangler

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Equality does not mean not recognizing that there are differences between males and females, of course they can create a females only channel. And of course, males are equally free to create a males only channel.

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Its actually sexism, and no different than racism as far as I'm concerned. Everyone is equal, however, segregation implies that one is better than another. Be it treating a female player "special" because she is female, or excluding a male player because he's male.

Next is an "White-only channel" because you don't like filtering through all the chinese characters from Chinese players. Its nonsensical.

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Everyone is equal, however,

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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Its actually sexism, and no different than racism as far as I'm concerned. Everyone is equal, however, segregation implies that one is better than another. Be it treating a female player "special" because she is female, or excluding a male player because he's male.

Next is an "White-only channel" because you don't like filtering through all the chinese characters from Chinese players. Its nonsensical.

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Originally by: Zajo

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Originally by: Raquel Smith

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So what do you do if you're Deaf or hard of hearing?

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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Originally by: ezzle

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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I don't get it why segregate yourselves unless your just going to become the View and say things like:

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Girls get hit on all the time.

Its kinda sad and pathetic, but yeah, it happens, often.

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Internet doods are creepy. I have a strict no sexual innuendo policy (due to the fact that internet girls if there are such a thing (a myth in my opinion) are also creepy )

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Originally by: Calderio

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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Originally by: ezzle

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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I don't get it why segregate yourselves unless your just going to become the View and say things like:

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Girls get hit on all the time.

Its kinda sad and pathetic, but yeah, it happens, often.

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Internet doods are creepy. I have a strict no sexual innuendo policy (due to the fact that internet girls if there are such a thing (a myth in my opinion) are also creepy )

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I used to start every convo with "wanna cyber?" after a few wierd chats I now start with "ASL?" just to be safe

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Originally by: vile56

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Originally by: Calderio

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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Originally by: ezzle

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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin

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I don't get it why segregate yourselves unless your just going to become the View and say things like:

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Girls get hit on all the time.

Its kinda sad and pathetic, but yeah, it happens, often.

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Internet doods are creepy. I have a strict no sexual innuendo policy (due to the fact that internet girls if there are such a thing (a myth in my opinion) are also creepy )

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I used to start every convo with "wanna cyber?" after a few wierd chats I now start with "ASL?" just to be safe

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agent system level?

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Originally by: Alexi Johns

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If only my manly wiles would work on my corp mates, or nasty pirates who demand ransoms, im sure if i was a buxom wench they would be far more willing to negotiate.

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Originally by: Alexi Johns

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I dunno what all the fuss is about really, is it any different to having a channel where only your corp members can join?. As you discuss secret corp bussiness in one and secret womans bussiness in another.

I know if i were a woman/girl gamer i would sure try to scam free stuff with my feminine wiles.

If only my manly wiles would work on my corp mates, or nasty pirates who demand ransoms, im sure if i was a buxom wench they would be far more willing to negotiate.

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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Originally by: Wrangler

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Equality does not mean not recognizing that there are differences between males and females, of course they can create a females only channel. And of course, males are equally free to create a males only channel.

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Its actually sexism, and no different than racism as far as I'm concerned. Everyone is equal, however, segregation implies that one is better than another. Be it treating a female player "special" because she is female, or excluding a male player because he's male.

Next is an "White-only channel" because you don't like filtering through all the chinese characters from Chinese players. Its nonsensical.

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Originally by: Kriz Lupin

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Edited by: Kriz Lupin on 09/02/2007 03:44:16

Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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Originally by: Wrangler

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Stuff

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Stuff

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BS Derovious.

Trouble with eve is its 95% male players. As soon as its found out a girl is playing all the kiddies get their peens out and start making lewd remarks.

Alot of girls I play this game with don't want it publically known they are girls because of this behaviour.

I support this chan fully, go girls

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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And instead of creating a situation that places them further up on the podium, they should petition the GM's the ban the little kids for sexual harassment. Oh wait, I'm sorry, thats the COMMON SENSE solution, I'll try harder next time to come up with something more to everyones liking.

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Originally by: Zajo

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Originally by: Wrangler

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Equality does not mean not recognizing that there are differences between males and females, of course they can create a females only channel. And of course, males are equally free to create a males only channel.

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Now may I be so bold as to ask for a sticky

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Originally by: Ralara

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You're a girl. Get over it already.

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Originally by: Michael Lonewolf

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Male and female brains are wired differently

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Originally by: Taedrin

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Remember folks, this is the Internet.

Where men are men,
Women are men
And all the 14 year olds are undercover FBI agents.

Surf wisely, friends.

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Originally by: Jasmine Yin

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Female player here, but not interested in joining.
If it's true that there are only 5% female players in EvE, I am really surprised there aren't more. I think EvE is the perfect game for a female player primarily because you can make your own way through the game, and build your own empire theoretically. You can also show your skills as a pilot, and more importantly, you're not a bunch of pixelated boobs like in most MMOs. How much more empowering is that?

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Originally by: Tissa

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Just signed up to the forums, I will be contacting you later not just because I am a girl but also because it's always nice to make new friends in eve.

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Originally by: Nova Z

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I wouldn't mind signing up if only for the friends aspect

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Originally by: Murukan

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you also can cyber with phuze!! Just convo her!

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Originally by: Shameless Avenger

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MMO != Dating Service

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Originally by: Anila's Delight

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/me waits to see how many "OMG G1RLS PLY EVE" replys are posted.

I created this alt to see how many OMG a GIRL!!11eleven! replies i got. 6 in newbie corp chat, 4 private convo's and 7 evemails.

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Quote:

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I say it's the same reason they only go to the bathroom in groups.

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Originally by: Seyveaux Chevalt

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Quote:

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I say it's the same reason they only go to the bathroom in groups.

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My RL hubby (whom I met on the Internet 10 years ago) is convinced there's a vast female conspiracy and that when we all go to the bathroom together, its to discuss strategy and tactics of such!

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Originally by: Jasmine Yin

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I was seriously tempted to choose a male avatar, but I decided that I should really support my own gender and go with a female pilot who makes her own destiny.

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Originally by: Zajo

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Late in 2003, a girl named Aminida got a superb idea and started an in-game channel for females only. A channel where girls alike could hang out and talk about what ever they wanted. Since then, the channel has gone through several changes and improvements. For the last couple of months WGoE has been taking a break from interviews and recruits. Now we have finally gotten our stuff back together and eagerly await new additions to our lovely channel.

If you are a female playing EVE and want to join our channel all you need to do is contact one of our moderators:

Bianca Rhys
Malindah
Zajo

We will then set-up a day for your interview. The interview is needed to make sure you truely are female

Make sure you have teamspeak/Ventrillo sorted out!



We got a public channel as well, where all females and males are welcome to join:

ò WGoE.Public


We have also just opened the doors to a brand new forum, feel free to drop by and give us some love:

ò www.wgoe.net


If you have any questions about the channel and it's history/rules you can find anything you need at:

ò http://eve-history.net/wiki/index.php/Women_Gamers_of_EVE.


Hope to hear from you soon!

May EVE Be With You

Love,

Zajo
Bianca Rhys
Malindah

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Originally by: d026

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Originally by: Shameless Avenger

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MMO != Dating Service

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wot? i quit!

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Originally by: Oveur

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Good stuff! I'll stop by later

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Originally by: Seyveaux Cheval

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Not only are there girls that play EVE but old ladies (defined as "OMG, you're old enough to be my mom!" by players who I share my age with) as well--of which I am one. EVE is a great way to get my gaming fix since RL RPGing (which occupied a serious amount of my time in young adulthood) is too hard to make happen these days.

I absolutely love EVE, really enjoy my (presumably young male) intelligent and humorous corpmates, and just block any juvenile who gets obnoxious in chat. That said, I mostly just roll my eyes at a lot of what goes on--I've been around the block 10 or 15 times in life, have an open mind, and feel threatened/annoyed by very little except malicious hatefulness. Have seen little to none of that in EVE, but it's only been several days since I started playing.

I'd be interested in getting to know more of my EVE sisters and will check out the WGoE channels. Thanks for posting, Zajo.

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Originally by: Zajo

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Originally by: Oveur

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Good stuff! I'll stop by later

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I heard when I logged on you had made a visit to our female-only channel

I hate to say this *braces herself* but the rules apply to you as to everyone else, no entry without an interview

Pls stop by the public channel next time good Sir

/me mumbles to herself as she walks off > Can't believe I just did that ...

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Originally by: Cipher7

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Segregation for the lose

Next up, a whites-only channel

zzzzzz

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Originally by: Cipher7

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Segregation for the lose

Next up, a whites-only channel

zzzzzz

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Originally by: Cipher7

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Segregation for the lose

Next up, a whites-only channel

zzzzzz

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Originally by: Oveur

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Originally by: Zajo

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Late in 2003, a girl named Aminida got a superb idea and started an in-game channel for females only. A channel where girls alike could hang out and talk about what ever they wanted. Since then, the channel has gone through several changes and improvements. For the last couple of months WGoE has been taking a break from interviews and recruits. Now we have finally gotten our stuff back together and eagerly await new additions to our lovely channel.

If you are a female playing EVE and want to join our channel all you need to do is contact one of our moderators:

Bianca Rhys
Malindah
Zajo

We will then set-up a day for your interview. The interview is needed to make sure you truely are female

Make sure you have teamspeak/Ventrillo sorted out!



We got a public channel as well, where all females and males are welcome to join:

ò WGoE.Public


We have also just opened the doors to a brand new forum, feel free to drop by and give us some love:

ò www.wgoe.net


If you have any questions about the channel and it's history/rules you can find anything you need at:

ò http://eve-history.net/wiki/index.php/Women_Gamers_of_EVE.


Hope to hear from you soon!

May EVE Be With You

Love,

Zajo
Bianca Rhys
Malindah

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Good stuff! I'll stop by later

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Originally by: Zajo

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Originally by: Oveur

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Good stuff! I'll stop by later

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I heard when I logged on you had made a visit to our female-only channel

I hate to say this *braces herself* but the rules apply to you as to everyone else, no entry without an interview

Pls stop by the public channel next time good Sir

/me mumbles to herself as she walks off > Can't believe I just did that ...

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Originally by: Taedrin

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Remember folks, this is the Internet.

Where men are men,
Women are men
And all the 14 year olds are undercover FBI agents.

Surf wisely, friends.

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Originally by: Togakure

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Edited by: Togakure on 09/02/2007 16:36:20

Originally by: Zajo

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Originally by: Oveur

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Good stuff! I'll stop by later

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I heard when I logged on you had made a visit to our female-only channel

I hate to say this *braces herself* but the rules apply to you as to everyone else, no entry without an interview

Pls stop by the public channel next time good Sir

/me mumbles to herself as she walks off > Can't believe I just did that ...

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What are you talking about? As proof Oveur is a real girl, here's a pic of Oveur hanging with the ladies.

Dead Sexy: Proof in the Piccy

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Originally by: Splagada

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SEED ME DADDY

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Originally by: Tissa

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This thread is getting silly.
I really shouldn't have to justify this but I will.

There are very few girls playing eve, it is a fair bet that every one of us has been on the receiving end of a nasty/pervy comment or two.
We don't complain about this we just accept that it's a small idiot minority and move on. Why shouldn't there be an area that ladies can congregate safe in the knowledge that no one will say "what colour are your knickers?"?

There are hundreds of channels where people with something in common gather and no one is going to complain that the minmatar knitting league have a password on theirs.

So please boys back off, no your name's not down and no your not coming in, if it bothers you so much go create a room called "The Albany Club" and go sulk in there.

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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka

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Originally by: Tissa

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This thread is getting silly.
I really shouldn't have to justify this but I will.

There are very few girls playing eve, it is a fair bet that every one of us has been on the receiving end of a nasty/pervy comment or two.
We don't complain about this we just accept that it's a small idiot minority and move on. Why shouldn't there be an area that ladies can congregate safe in the knowledge that no one will say "what colour are your knickers?"?

There are hundreds of channels where people with something in common gather and no one is going to complain that the minmatar knitting league have a password on theirs.

So please boys back off, no your name's not down and no your not coming in, if it bothers you so much go create a room called "The Albany Club" and go sulk in there.

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Personally I've noticed that majority of women who get offended when they hear "pervy comments" as you put it, aren't really that popular amongst the alpha males anyway. It's funny really; they never get laid and then when some drunken fatso tries to have sex with them, they go "ooh, you sexist pig, get away from me!".

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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka

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Personally I've noticed that majority of women who get offended when they hear "pervy comments" as you put it, aren't really that popular amongst the alpha males anyway. It's funny really; they never get laid and then when some drunken fatso tries to have sex with them, they go "ooh, you sexist pig, get away from me!".

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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka

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Personally I've noticed that majority of women who get offended when they hear "pervy comments" as you put it, aren't really that popular amongst the alpha males anyway. It's funny really; they never get laid and then when some drunken fatso tries to have sex with them, they go "ooh, you sexist pig, get away from me!".

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Originally by: Anna Grahm

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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka

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Personally I've noticed that majority of women who get offended when they hear "pervy comments" as you put it, aren't really that popular amongst the alpha males anyway. It's funny really; they never get laid and then when some drunken fatso tries to have sex with them, they go "ooh, you sexist pig, get away from me!".

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Newsflash, jackass: not everyone is obsessed with "getting laid". Move out of your mum's basement and experience the real world outside that of ****ography where every woman submits to your voyeuristic perversions.

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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka

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Truth hurts, doesn't it?

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Originally by: Anna Grahm

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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka

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Truth hurts, doesn't it?

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You tell me.

I am happily married.

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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka

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Originally by: Anna Grahm

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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka

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Truth hurts, doesn't it?

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You tell me.

I am happily married.

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But is the other person in your relationship happy?

Okok, I'll stop now.. ;>

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Originally by: Tissa

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This thread is getting silly.
I really shouldn't have to justify this but I will.

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Quote:

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There are very few girls playing eve, it is a fair bet that every one of us has been on the receiving end of a nasty/pervy comment or two. We don't complain about this we just accept that it's a small idiot minority and move on. Why shouldn't there be an area that ladies can congregate safe in the knowledge that no one will say "what colour are your knickers?"?

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Quote:

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There are hundreds of channels where people with something in common gather and no one is going to complain that the minmatar knitting league have a password on theirs.

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Quote:

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So please boys back off, no your name's not down and no your not coming in, if it bothers you so much go create a room called "The Albany Club" and go sulk in there.

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Originally by: Anna Grahm

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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka

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Originally by: Anna Grahm

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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka

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Truth hurts, doesn't it?

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You tell me.

I am happily married.

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But is the other person in your relationship happy?

Okok, I'll stop now.. ;>

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Very.

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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Originally by: Tissa

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This thread is getting silly.
I really shouldn't have to justify this but I will.

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You will continue to justify it until you can prove that segregation is benefical to all persons.

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Originally by: Raquel Smith

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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Originally by: Tissa

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This thread is getting silly.
I really shouldn't have to justify this but I will.

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You will continue to justify it until you can prove that segregation is benefical to all persons.

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Keeping men out is a glorious goal, clearly, jerks like you are those we chose not to interact with.

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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I am a jerk because I want us to be on the same playing field? I argue the point of common sense, your motives are selfish, and because of that, your ideology is flawed.

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Originally by: Raquel Smith

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We play the same game. Your exclusion from a chat channel is not segregation in the game, whereas if I was advocating a male server and a female server your argument may have merit.

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Quote:

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You're free to interact with me in game in local or any other communicative means, just not in a male-only channel or female-only channel since our respective genders exclude each other from these channels.

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Quote:

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I don't hate you because of your genital configuration and in fact I do not hate you at all. I just think you're causing trouble for no good reason (unless you mean to keep this threat at the top of the page!).

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I do not seek attention from sexual men when I play this game. I think it's typically male to think that any woman in any situation is theirs for the taking. Perhaps you should enter counseling if you believe that to be the case -- just don't hit on your female therapist.

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Believe it or not people play games not to be hit on by other people. Perhaps now you understand why so many women chose to use ambiguous names or adopt male avatars...but perhaps that distinction is beyond you.

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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stuff

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Originally by: Crumplecorn

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Women should have their own channel tbh. WTF would we talk to them about anyway?

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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka

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You girls should be nicer to each other. That Feline girl on your forums is crying her eyes out coz you're not her friends anymore (whining on the forums with her alt, Pookie).

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Originally by: Karl Shade

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Edited by: Karl Shade on 09/02/2007 20:42:35

Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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stuff

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Nerdrage.

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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Originally by: Karl Shade

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Edited by: Karl Shade on 09/02/2007 20:42:35

Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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stuff

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Nerdrage.

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In the Engg. department, we have a noticable lack of female students. As such, everytime I hear about some women-only scholarships, or women-only student associations, it ****es me right off. They ***** and moan about how hard it is as a woman in Engineering, and how male engineers don't take them serious, than go and sit on the so-called silk pillow and float through school on someone elses hardwork.

Goddamn right, nerdrage.

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Originally by: Karl Shade

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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Originally by: Karl Shade

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Edited by: Karl Shade on 09/02/2007 20:42:35

Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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stuff

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Nerdrage.

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In the Engg. department, we have a noticable lack of female students. As such, everytime I hear about some women-only scholarships, or women-only student associations, it ****es me right off. They ***** and moan about how hard it is as a woman in Engineering, and how male engineers don't take them serious, than go and sit on the so-called silk pillow and float through school on someone elses hardwork.

Goddamn right, nerdrage.

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Then I suggest you deal with those issues rather than bashing what chat-channel some people use in an online game.

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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The issues you refer to are no different than the issues at hand. A small population of EVE think they are special, and want others to make them feel special. As far as I'm concerned, if I find a female player in EVE, I will strongly suggest she play like any other member of the community. The idea of a one sex channel is foolish.

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Originally by: XxAngelxX

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Tbh it's fair enough having a woman's only channel if you use the game as some kind of social outlet (primarily).
I on the other hand play to play. Doesnt make much sense but I've established myself and my 2 chars as a good PVPer and Fleet Commander.
A lot of the women I meet in game annoy the hell out of me with how they choose to play the game and how it seems to be some kind of chat channel. I have friends because I enjoy playing the game with them, I dont play the game because I enjoy making friends.
Posts like this leave me confused. I dont see why there is a need for women to segregate themselves in different corps or channels, surely the fact we, unlike a lot of women in society today, can actually exist in such a male orientated environment is proof to all that we should be recognised as a successful and growing part of the community, and we dont need to be labelled with the same assumptions in rl in EVE because we may be a different sex. Sometimes it just seems like a cry for attention. Maybe this thread would be better off in recruitment.

I dont know sometimes. But then I think too much. Not flamebait, you girls do your own thing, its just not for me. I like pew pew and leading fleets.

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Originally by: Zajo

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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The issues you refer to are no different than the issues at hand. A small population of EVE think they are special, and want others to make them feel special. As far as I'm concerned, if I find a female player in EVE, I will strongly suggest she play like any other member of the community. The idea of a one sex channel is foolish.

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For your information the females in the channel do not feel they are special, who would we feel special too? All high-five'ing each other in the private channel?

Many girls prefer not to join the channel but many do. It's there for those who want to join and if they do not, no bad feelings at all. Several girls do not want to be in a gender specific channel as they see no need, those that don't mind have somewhere to go. What's so bad about that?

Why don't you join our public channel and talk about this? That way you will be able to talk to the girls that do enjoy it and others that don't mind, as well as be able to talk to girls that have not joined the private channel but hang out in the public one.

Hope to see you there!

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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There is name for something like this, its called a circle jerk; I have no interest in your public channel, nor talking to the individuals who do and do not attend your private channel. You're attempting to confuse a persons opinion with plain and simple fact.

The choice of a person for something based on their gender >is< sexism; to encourage it and actively endorse it a hate crime. If CCP enforced their rules more strictly, you'd be treated with the same banhammer as the racists. Don't believe me? Replace "gender" with "race", "male" with "black person", and the argument equates the same.

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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In the Engg. department, we have a noticable lack of female students. As such, everytime I hear about some women-only scholarships, or women-only student associations, it ****es me right off. They ***** and moan about how hard it is as a woman in Engineering, and how male engineers don't take them serious, than go and sit on the so-called silk pillow and float through school on someone elses hardwork.

Goddamn right, nerdrage.

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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The choice of a person for something based on their gender >is< sexism; to encourage it and actively endorse it a hate crime.

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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The choice of a person for something based on their gender >is< sexism; to encourage it and actively endorse it a hate crime. If CCP enforced their rules more strictly, you'd be treated with the same banhammer as the racists. Don't believe me? Replace "gender" with "race", "male" with "black person", and the argument equates the same.

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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In the Engg. department, we have a noticable lack of female students. As such, everytime I hear about some women-only scholarships, or women-only student associations, it ****es me right off. They ***** and moan about how hard it is as a woman in Engineering, and how male engineers don't take them serious, than go and sit on the so-called silk pillow and float through school on someone elses hardwork.

Goddamn right, nerdrage.

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Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst

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I see you feel strongly about this issue. Perhaps I can subscribe to your newsletter?

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If you're so upset, you should campaign about this hateful oppression closer to home. A few invasions of the women's lavatories, followed by standing around outside some black or *** groups yelling "hate criminals!" or "I'm being oppressed!" might do it.

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The same can be said for EVE. Why should women be recognised as anything different? We all use the same computers, load up the same client, have the same starting characters. I thought eve was somewhere where this BS didnt occur, but yet even in our minority there are always those trying to make this again about what we are out of game.

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I'm studying Electrical Engineering, but it's always the boys copying my homework :P

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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No, its men-only.

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I tell you what, the minute the women in your private channel drop their underthings and go to the washroom, I'll be the first to sign the petition to get the channel turning into a women-only area.

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Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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No, its men-only.

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Oh noes, you hurt my feelings on the internets!

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I tell you what, the minute the women in your private channel drop their underthings and go to the washroom, I'll be the first to sign the petition to get the channel turning into a women-only area.

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You didn't answer my query about ***, black, womens organisations etc. Surely they are a more fitting target for your campaigning zeal?

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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I'm studying Electrical Engineering, but it's always the boys copying my homework :P

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And I see male students copying each other as well, additional to the fact that I'm sure you compare solutions to your friends and adjust as you see the trend. Copying someone by no means implies that they have the correct solution, its a matter of trust.

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Originally by: Pherusa Plumosa

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I do not understand why some men are angry that they are not allowed to join. Should I feel opressed because I am not able to join BoB-intel or RA-intel?

Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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I'm studying Electrical Engineering, but it's always the boys copying my homework :P

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And I see male students copying each other as well, additional to the fact that I'm sure you compare solutions to your friends and adjust as you see the trend. Copying someone by no means implies that they have the correct solution, its a matter of trust.

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You doubt girls can be best of an engineering class? :P

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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A **** load of crap

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Originally by: Tissa

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Without us admin types everyone would be sat in a corp with 5 mates in empire. /defense of playstyle

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Originally by: Raquel Smith

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Originally by: Zajo

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Originally by: Raquel Smith

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So what do you do if you're Deaf or hard of hearing?

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Valid question Raguel.

If there is a will there is also a way. If this would happen I am sure we would figure something out.

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Originally by: Roy Batty68

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My software has wronged me!!! And it's immediately "sorry". Well, ok then. I suppose I'm not so upset at my software if it appologizes.

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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I don't quite see your argument, you're saying that women should sit face to face as they urinate? or that men and women should share the same restroom?

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I think the all womens channel is a good idea for women who want to interact with other female players in this game, and I find nothing wrong with that more power to you girls... BUT it works better for me to be accepted as the woman I am, able to fit in with all the guys in my corp and alliance, and be treated as just one of the guys, playing this game side by side with them.

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(sorry for choosing your post hun but it kinda summed it up nicely )

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"The WGOE channel is where I can get away from all the **** that goes on being an EXEC member of a corp... It is where I can ***** about my husband.. or about my day.. or hell.. if I feel like being emotional, I can... No strings attached. Being around an entire corp of guys most of the time, it is nice to get away from that at times!" - Malindah


By no means do the females in EVE have anything against interacting with guys, on the contrary actually. It is often said that they generally prefer talking with the guys in their corporation/alliance etc; although, being able to only talk with other girls can be a nice change from time to time.

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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Originally by: Wrangler

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Equality does not mean not recognizing that there are differences between males and females, of course they can create a females only channel. And of course, males are equally free to create a males only channel.

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Its actually sexism, and no different than racism as far as I'm concerned. Everyone is equal, however, segregation implies that one is better than another. Be it treating a female player "special" because she is female, or excluding a male player because he's male.

Next is an "White-only channel" because you don't like filtering through all the chinese characters from Chinese players. Its nonsensical.

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