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j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.10 03:02:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 10/02/2007 02:58:22
"If you want to get in touch with me, I'll be on World of Warcraft's Arygos server playing as "Thrakhath". At least there I don't have to think about GMs funneling thousands of gold coins to players they like."
Aye, it's not like head developer of WoW high-end content is long term powerplayer with close ties to active guild. Nor like there was a scandal revolving about another developer associated with another guild, and abuse of power to both manipulate the game and the content of the official board when there was threads attempting to disclose his actions.
Honestly Istvaan it's great pity to see you leave, but this "new, perfect girlfriend" naivete coming from you out of all people... it's rather unbecoming.
Nevertheless, best luck on your new road ^^;;
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Ravelin Eb
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.10 03:17:00 -
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EVE loses one of its finest players :(
Sucks to see someone like you go, may you come running back after WoW bores you senseless :)
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Wodin Drukvik
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 04:13:00 -
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 Originally by: j0sephine
Aye, it's not like head developer of WoW high-end content is long term powerplayer with close ties to active guild.
I wasn't aware Legacy of Steel was still active.
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Nor like there was a scandal revolving about another developer associated with another guild, and abuse of power to both manipulate the game and the content of the official board when there was threads attempting to disclose his actions.
What? I follow the raid game pretty closely(being an active participant and all  ), and the closest things that would match that explanation are the "Silent Fang" incident where Caydiem was found to be significantly less experienced than she claimed on the forums, or the Overrated incident where they modified their clients to be able to bypass the wall and access C'thun directly.
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j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.10 04:48:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 10/02/2007 04:49:09
"I wasn't aware Legacy of Steel was still active."
Fires of Heaven still is though, i think? Was under impression Furor was moved from quest/dungeon designer position to something quite higher up the chain, not that short ago...
"What? I follow the raid game pretty closely(being an active participant and all ), and the closest things that would match that explanation are the "Silent Fang" incident where Caydiem was found to be significantly less experienced than she claimed on the forums, or the Overrated incident where they modified their clients to be able to bypass the wall and access C'thun directly."
I don't have links at hand since was following it casually (i don't play WoW, but the forum drama was on level similar to what's happening in EVE now) ... it was really long time ago too, so i have very fuzzy recollection of the whole thing. Something along the lines of players figuring out in-game identity of one of the developers through information he posted on private blog (bragging about work at Blizzard etc sprinkled in midsts of other 'look at size of my rl and e-peen' entries) ... then raising question about validity of that guild achievements, again in quite similar manner to what's going on in EVE now. Initially the threads were being removed from WoW boards until the whole thing reached critical mass. I don't remember how it was resolved in the end, unfortunately :/
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Davlos
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.10 06:23:00 -
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Bah.
And I came in from WoW. This is *******s, Istvaan. The PC Gamer article on the GH-SC thing was one of the critical reasons why I hopped games, despite having had three Rank 14 Warriors and a whole bunch of e-peen to wave in that game.
I was in Fires of Heaven back in EQ, and Tigule and Foror are the largest asshats I've ever seen in my entire online gaming experience. They're the two lead designers of WoW now. Those two jokers have always been on the position that those who "don't work for it don't deserve to experience the game", aka raiding elitists.
Raiding isn't fun. Raiding is boring. Raiding is an endless, pointless treadmill that generates more lame drama than the entirety of CAOD section of this forums.
I wish you luck in WoW, Istvaan. You're going to need it. The game won't start until you're 60, and you'll find out how much bullsh*t there is in WoW, I'll be expecting you to come back.
In EVE, GMs respond to critical issues under 10 minutes. In WoW, it's 8 hours.
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pardux
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.10 06:40:00 -
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.10 06:42:00 -
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50m says that this is just a ploy to make corps think theyre safe 
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Jiggy
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.02.10 07:16:00 -
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j0sephine posts bull****, news at 11
Cya giggles, i'll miss the night time rapes :(
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Soren
PAK
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Posted - 2007.02.10 07:42:00 -
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You've left before, right?
This stuff may be BS but whatever.. just don't give your account away or anything.. I suspect you'll come back.
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Booster Junkie
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Posted - 2007.02.10 08:50:00 -
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Sooooooo CCP... ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION YET?
You inspired many, myself included. Thanks for leaving the mark you did, because it has always been people like you who made this game worth playing. It won't be the same game without you.
CCP, what have you done?
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.02.10 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
50m says that this is just a ploy to make corps think theyre safe
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solidshot
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.02.10 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
My time in Eve has come to an end. I can't abide these repeated incidents of outright cheating on the part of the very people who made this game. At least there I don't have to think about GMs funneling thousands of gold coins to players they like.
Thanks for the fun times, the opportunity to be published in a magazine, and the trip to Iceland (Anna, I'd seriously marry you) - but you guys have got to get your shit in check. Signing off...
- I.S.
GHSC
Quite a few people feel like this both my accounts are cancelled ( i wont be returning this time) and a few others i know are doing the same.
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Nir
The Doldrums
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Posted - 2007.02.10 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: solidshot
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
My time in Eve has come to an end. I can't abide these repeated incidents of outright cheating on the part of the very people who made this game. At least there I don't have to think about GMs funneling thousands of gold coins to players they like.
Thanks for the fun times, the opportunity to be published in a magazine, and the trip to Iceland (Anna, I'd seriously marry you) - but you guys have got to get your shit in check. Signing off...
- I.S.
GHSC
Quite a few people feel like this both my accounts are cancelled ( i wont be returning this time) and a few others i know are doing the same.
QFT - CCP's response to all this has made me sick to the ******* back teeth. I'm not sure what to do right now but cancellation is on the cards.
Good luck in WoW, Istvaan.
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Hermia
HIVE
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Posted - 2007.02.10 15:23:00 -
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This is quite a loss for eve online.
I remember my surprise when opening my "New Scientist" mag to see Istvaan Shogaatsu detailed as the eminent villian of the MMO genre. No doubt this guy has done wonders for eve and increased awareness for the whole market.
I believe that CCP demonstrated a lack of competency in this matter, yes, but they have also jumped on it adequately. No need to leave the game Istvaan. Please dont
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Arrgs
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:18:00 -
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Sad day for Eve. Good luck with whatever you do dude.
My first video!
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Xrak
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: Xrak on 10/02/2007 18:18:58
Lol Istavaan, I am amazed that someone of your intelligence can be so naive about another game.
j0 has already pointed out examples, and I personally can attest to having a GM have a normal character in my guild when I played, and he wasnt worried about doing certain things now and then to help the guild and himself get a bit ahead.
Originally by: Empress Aphrodite
("don't flush it yet - let's freshen up the room a little")
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Karunel
Princeps Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:23:00 -
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Well, you better stay in the irc channel, I like reading the crazy news you always link to. 
Originally by: elbenito
The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
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Mitsuko Souma
Gallente
The United Federation of Spice
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:26:00 -
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Don't be a stranger to IRC m'kay :/
D.
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Empress Aphrodite
Soar Angelic
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:32:00 -
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A sad day for Eve 
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:38:00 -
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Epoch
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Posted - 2007.02.11 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Xrak
Edited by: Xrak on 10/02/2007 18:18:58
Lol Istavaan, I am amazed that someone of your intelligence can be so naive about another game.
j0 has already pointed out examples, and I personally can attest to having a GM have a normal character in my guild when I played, and he wasnt worried about doing certain things now and then to help the guild and himself get a bit ahead.
the anti-WoW rhetoric is getting a bit old. post reputable links. frivolously trying to make comparisons between an inside scandal in a game w/ 8 million player base and ~150k player base. Completely oblivious to the fact the said *scandalous* incidents have a more profound impact on the players in a game like eve then WoW.
this type of behavior is prevalent in every mmorpg. i can remember examples in UO involving SiN on greatlakes. in eq on povar.
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari
Warhounds
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Posted - 2007.02.11 02:29:00 -
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i must admit Istvaan, i'd never heard of you before this post, but having read the numerous responses to your leaving is impressive, you must have been a helluva player.
but ol well, as long as the $$$ roll in, right CCP
ah the forums are fantastic and full of love
Originally by: Zions Child
its not worth it. karn, you have VERY little social skill and regard for basic human beings. People like you, are what make the world a |
Nachshon
Caldari
Gradient
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.11 02:43:00 -
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Wait, Istvaan, the EVE pilot who was mentioned in A FRIGGIN SCIENCE JOURNAL is leaving?
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Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.11 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Hypatia Iola
i must admit Istvaan, i'd never heard of you before this post, but having read the numerous responses to your leaving is impressive, you must have been a helluva player.
but ol well, as long as the $$$ roll in, right CCP
http://eve.klaki.net/heist/
'splains most of it.
Sucks he's leaving, but oh well, they come and go.
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Xrak
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.11 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Epoch
Originally by: Xrak
Edited by: Xrak on 10/02/2007 18:18:58
Lol Istavaan, I am amazed that someone of your intelligence can be so naive about another game.
j0 has already pointed out examples, and I personally can attest to having a GM have a normal character in my guild when I played, and he wasnt worried about doing certain things now and then to help the guild and himself get a bit ahead.
the anti-WoW rhetoric is getting a bit old. post reputable links. frivolously trying to make comparisons between an inside scandal in a game w/ 8 million player base and ~150k player base. Completely oblivious to the fact the said *scandalous* incidents have a more profound impact on the players in a game like eve then WoW.
this type of behavior is prevalent in every mmorpg. i can remember examples in UO involving SiN on greatlakes. in eq on povar.
If you stopped and thought for a moment, you would realise that wasnt an Anti-WoW post. In fact in the past I think you will find I have on several occasions defended WoW from the eve critics, who call blashpemy at anyone who spoke about it, unwilling to open there eyes and see it for what it was and not as a rival to eve. The real irony of my experience of WoW, is that the people who belittled me for trying it are now the ones who are playing it, while I came back to Eve (even quicker then I expected to).
I cant post any proof of what I said afaik the guy was never caught. And yes events like the recents do have much more of an effect on a game like Eve then others, but what happened here I believe happens else where much more often and much more severly, with the game companies much less likely to come up with public apologies and the results the of investigation. I think Istavaan is blowing the situation out of proportion personally, but thats just my opinion, right?
GL Istavaan, go grief some noobs in another game somewhere.
Originally by: Empress Aphrodite
("don't flush it yet - let's freshen up the room a little")
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Verone
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.11 03:35:00 -
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Good luck Tom, you've been an asset to Eve Online and a brought in a lot of players.
I'll miss your fan fiction, that's for damn sure.
Take it easy, and have a good one.
NEWEST MOVIE : VETO FOR HIRE
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Karunel
Princeps Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.11 10:36:00 -
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I'll miss your fan fiction, that's for damn sure.
Very true, E-ON real value just fell. :'<
Originally by: elbenito
The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
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Kehmor
Caldari
PAK
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Posted - 2007.02.11 13:04:00 -
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An inspiration to many players, myself included, truly pushing the boundries of the dark side in eve, and doing it with style.
I only hope that such a high profile player leaving will show ccp that this is not a matter they can let slide and that proper investigation and public updates on the situation will have to be made.
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hired goon
Infinite Improbability Inc
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.11 14:27:00 -
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NO
WHAT HAS CCP DONE
hg original recipe, I missed you at the fanfest, and now I'll probably never meet you. But I've followed the story of your character since you overthrew the CEO Endless Corporation. From the bottom of my trousers I will miss your contibution to the community.
I salute you sir. May your grind to godhood be paved with the suffering souls of thousands of innocent WoWers.
-omg-
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2007.02.11 14:34:00 -
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Meh, liez! You of all ppl wouldn't/shouldn't enjoy wow. >_>
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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