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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2007.02.09 21:59:00 -
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First, came Taggart Transdimensional and their magic tech 5 mining laser. Now comes news of the most powerful alliance in the game being supported by CCP devs spawning BPOs worth billions for them. And, you know what they say - if you get caught for two crimes, it's a safe bet you've gotten away with more. The mere fact that you banned a player who brought your missteps to light is the icing on the cake.
My time in Eve has come to an end. My character and various expensive stuff will be given to friends I've made throughout my years of playing. I can't abide these repeated incidents of outright cheating on the part of the very people who made this game. If you want to get in touch with me, I'll be on World of Warcraft's Arygos server playing as "Thrakhath". At least there I don't have to think about GMs funneling thousands of gold coins to players they like.
Thanks for the fun times, the opportunity to be published in a magazine, and the trip to Iceland (Anna, I'd seriously marry you) - but you guys have got to get your shit in check. Signing off...
- I.S.
GHSC
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 09/02/2007 22:00:38
I've always though highly of you, Istvaan.
But quitting the game over rampant tinfoil-hat speculation before the devs even finish their inquiry, and then joining the exact kind of game you spent years denouncing because it was nearly grief-free and lacked the kind of possibilities EVE had?
I don't like to say this, but don't let the door hit you on the way out.
-[23] Member-
EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame) |
Entarii
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:04:00 -
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kolego, kiedy pijemy? :/
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Bek
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:04:00 -
[4]
Sorry to see ya go bud :(
I will totally ***** IRC with you still though!
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Stavros
Amarr
DEFINITELY NOT m0o
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: Stavros on 09/02/2007 22:02:08
I think we are soooo far beyond tin hat ass hattery now Shikari, way waaay beyond...
Meh... sucks to see you go HG.. you better still be on irc ;\
And I think the two dev blogs signify the ending of their investingation pretty much.
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Hunyoo
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:05:00 -
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I'll miss you HG :(
My time in GH-SC was fun. :)
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Karash Amerius
Amarr
O.E.C
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:05:00 -
[7]
See ya HG...good luck with level 70 or 80 (or whatever) :)
The community has lost a fine 'sparkplug' member.
Merc Blog |
Dak Hakin
Frogly Enterprises
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:07:00 -
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Holy crap, the end of Istvaan?
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I am the devil, and I'm here to do the devils work.
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:08:00 -
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It's a shame that someone who got away with things, without cheating, and always explaining how he did it in a Scooby Doo manner; is leaving the game because of people who had to resort to cheating to get similar advantages.
Godspeed. I never met you, but I am sure your name will be one of the names immortalised in Eve History.
What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass! |
Celedris
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:13:00 -
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This is far beyond tinfoil hats now, Dark Shikari.
Sorry to see you go Istvaan. We've never met (at least I don't think we have!!  )but the story of your big heist is what brought me to this game.
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Old Kyguard
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:19:00 -
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Reading this post brought an uncomfortable feeling in my gut. Istvaan, wait a week or tow before making your decision, more might come out of this.
Oh and this has gone way beyond tinfoil hat speculation, I can't believe some of you are still hanging on that poor excuse. Anyway, Istvaan, don't leave just yet.
- Kyguard, until my new sub is in. |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:25:00 -
[12]
Sorry to see you go, hope you return someday <3
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ParMizaN
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:33:00 -
[13]
Sux to hear HG, but it's the best reason that I can see to leave atm.
It's time to leave your mark somehwere else then, as i'm sure you will.
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Lanfear's Bane
Shih Yang Tong
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:37:00 -
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Shame to see you go, the article about GHSC is how I explain EVE to people. However, dude, it's a game. I think people forget that too often.
Chill. Have fun. Pod some people.
Works for me.
Lanfear's Bane.
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Chronus26
Gallente
Vale Heavy Industries
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:46:00 -
[15]
Sad to see the ledgend go.
I can't say I agree with your reasons, but goodbye from somone you dont know and probably never will...
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Jennifer Meek
Gallente
Planck Bubble Generation Technologies
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:24:00 -
[16]
Have fun with the gold farmers.
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oDDiTy V2
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:25:00 -
[17]
You better be playing on a PVP server.
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Toshiro Khan
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'll be on World of Warcraft's Arygos server playing as "Thrakhath". At least there I don't have to think about GMs funneling thousands of gold coins to players they like.
Are you sure about that?
Are you 100% sure about that?
No wait... that was an alegation that all traces of it vanished off the forums, and swept under the carpet.
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Nethel
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.10 00:25:00 -
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Good luck with whatever you choose to pursue. The mark you left on EVE won't soon be forgotten.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.02.10 00:38:00 -
[20]
I hate you.
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Ebedar
Gallente
Primary Intelligence
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Posted - 2007.02.10 00:39:00 -
[21]
Bye.
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Entity
X-Factor Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.10 00:52:00 -
[22]
cya.
Oh and thanks for not killing me at the fanfest 
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Irrilian
Quetzalcoatl Inc
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Posted - 2007.02.10 01:06:00 -
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Feh, you're the reason I started playing Eve: that PC Gamer article that seems so long ago now. Not that I thought what you did was admirable, but the very fact that such things could happen made the game seem so intriguing.
So thank you Istvaan, for opening my eyes to Eve. Its just a shame that current events will be driving many of us away.
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PIs and Forensic Accountants: adding risk vs reward for scams and thievery |
Zarks
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.02.10 01:15:00 -
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Never understood why people admire someone like you Istvaan. But then again lots of of them said they started playing because of you so I guess you deserve recognition because of that. EVE will be a more boring place without you but then again I¦m still happy.
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DirtyHarry
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.10 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
First, came Taggart Transdimensional and their magic tech 5 mining laser. Now comes news of the most powerful alliance in the game being supported by CCP devs spawning BPOs worth billions for them. And, you know what they say - if you get caught for two crimes, it's a safe bet you've gotten away with more. The mere fact that you banned a player who brought your missteps to light is the icing on the cake.
My time in Eve has come to an end. My character and various expensive stuff will be given to friends I've made throughout my years of playing. I can't abide these repeated incidents of outright cheating on the part of the very people who made this game. If you want to get in touch with me, I'll be on World of Warcraft's Arygos server playing as "Thrakhath". At least there I don't have to think about GMs funneling thousands of gold coins to players they like.
Thanks for the fun times, the opportunity to be published in a magazine, and the trip to Iceland (Anna, I'd seriously marry you) - but you guys have got to get your shit in check. Signing off...
- I.S.
GHSC
Amen bro, you were a star in EvE, take care IRL.
Ill be canceling my excess accounts, but ill keep this char going, I havent given up on CCP quite yet.
Havocide - DirtyHarryF-E Homepage F-E Killboard |
lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.10 01:27:00 -
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Istvaan, if you didnt know, in last months PCGamer UK they had an article on the World's best Gamers. There was Fatality from all the FPS games, a bunch of guild wars / starcraft players, and you. ♥
Have fun in WoW, but I sincerely hope you change your mind 
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Cipher7
Acme Technologies Incorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.10 02:16:00 -
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Istvaan Shogatsu....is...quitting Eve...to play...WoW...
wow...
And where is the report about the dev cheating, I havent read anything? Can anybody help me with a link?
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.02.10 02:21:00 -
[28]
Can I have your stuff?
Half Assed Rhymage |
Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.02.10 02:36:00 -
[29]
Ok, now I am officially worried for this game.
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EVE is upside down!
WTZ+Slower Warp=Win |
Comstr
Technology Acquisition Collective
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.10 02:43:00 -
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If you must go, can you reveal any secrets before you do? Was/What was the "next" target? Go out in a blaze of glory.
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j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.10 03:02:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 10/02/2007 02:58:22
"If you want to get in touch with me, I'll be on World of Warcraft's Arygos server playing as "Thrakhath". At least there I don't have to think about GMs funneling thousands of gold coins to players they like."
Aye, it's not like head developer of WoW high-end content is long term powerplayer with close ties to active guild. Nor like there was a scandal revolving about another developer associated with another guild, and abuse of power to both manipulate the game and the content of the official board when there was threads attempting to disclose his actions.
Honestly Istvaan it's great pity to see you leave, but this "new, perfect girlfriend" naivete coming from you out of all people... it's rather unbecoming.
Nevertheless, best luck on your new road ^^;;
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Ravelin Eb
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.10 03:17:00 -
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EVE loses one of its finest players :(
Sucks to see someone like you go, may you come running back after WoW bores you senseless :)
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Wodin Drukvik
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.10 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
Aye, it's not like head developer of WoW high-end content is long term powerplayer with close ties to active guild.
I wasn't aware Legacy of Steel was still active.
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Nor like there was a scandal revolving about another developer associated with another guild, and abuse of power to both manipulate the game and the content of the official board when there was threads attempting to disclose his actions.
What? I follow the raid game pretty closely(being an active participant and all ), and the closest things that would match that explanation are the "Silent Fang" incident where Caydiem was found to be significantly less experienced than she claimed on the forums, or the Overrated incident where they modified their clients to be able to bypass the wall and access C'thun directly.
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j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.10 04:48:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 10/02/2007 04:49:09
"I wasn't aware Legacy of Steel was still active."
Fires of Heaven still is though, i think? Was under impression Furor was moved from quest/dungeon designer position to something quite higher up the chain, not that short ago...
"What? I follow the raid game pretty closely(being an active participant and all ), and the closest things that would match that explanation are the "Silent Fang" incident where Caydiem was found to be significantly less experienced than she claimed on the forums, or the Overrated incident where they modified their clients to be able to bypass the wall and access C'thun directly."
I don't have links at hand since was following it casually (i don't play WoW, but the forum drama was on level similar to what's happening in EVE now) ... it was really long time ago too, so i have very fuzzy recollection of the whole thing. Something along the lines of players figuring out in-game identity of one of the developers through information he posted on private blog (bragging about work at Blizzard etc sprinkled in midsts of other 'look at size of my rl and e-peen' entries) ... then raising question about validity of that guild achievements, again in quite similar manner to what's going on in EVE now. Initially the threads were being removed from WoW boards until the whole thing reached critical mass. I don't remember how it was resolved in the end, unfortunately :/
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Davlos
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.10 06:23:00 -
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Bah.
And I came in from WoW. This is *******s, Istvaan. The PC Gamer article on the GH-SC thing was one of the critical reasons why I hopped games, despite having had three Rank 14 Warriors and a whole bunch of e-peen to wave in that game.
I was in Fires of Heaven back in EQ, and Tigule and Foror are the largest asshats I've ever seen in my entire online gaming experience. They're the two lead designers of WoW now. Those two jokers have always been on the position that those who "don't work for it don't deserve to experience the game", aka raiding elitists.
Raiding isn't fun. Raiding is boring. Raiding is an endless, pointless treadmill that generates more lame drama than the entirety of CAOD section of this forums.
I wish you luck in WoW, Istvaan. You're going to need it. The game won't start until you're 60, and you'll find out how much bullsh*t there is in WoW, I'll be expecting you to come back.
In EVE, GMs respond to critical issues under 10 minutes. In WoW, it's 8 hours.
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pardux
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.10 06:40:00 -
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.10 06:42:00 -
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50m says that this is just a ploy to make corps think theyre safe 
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Jiggy
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.02.10 07:16:00 -
[38]
j0sephine posts bull****, news at 11
Cya giggles, i'll miss the night time rapes :(
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Soren
PAK
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Posted - 2007.02.10 07:42:00 -
[39]
You've left before, right?
This stuff may be BS but whatever.. just don't give your account away or anything.. I suspect you'll come back.
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Booster Junkie
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Posted - 2007.02.10 08:50:00 -
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Sooooooo CCP... ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION YET?
You inspired many, myself included. Thanks for leaving the mark you did, because it has always been people like you who made this game worth playing. It won't be the same game without you.
CCP, what have you done?
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.02.10 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
50m says that this is just a ploy to make corps think theyre safe
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solidshot
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.02.10 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
My time in Eve has come to an end. I can't abide these repeated incidents of outright cheating on the part of the very people who made this game. At least there I don't have to think about GMs funneling thousands of gold coins to players they like.
Thanks for the fun times, the opportunity to be published in a magazine, and the trip to Iceland (Anna, I'd seriously marry you) - but you guys have got to get your shit in check. Signing off...
- I.S.
GHSC
Quite a few people feel like this both my accounts are cancelled ( i wont be returning this time) and a few others i know are doing the same.
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Nir
The Doldrums
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Posted - 2007.02.10 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: solidshot
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
My time in Eve has come to an end. I can't abide these repeated incidents of outright cheating on the part of the very people who made this game. At least there I don't have to think about GMs funneling thousands of gold coins to players they like.
Thanks for the fun times, the opportunity to be published in a magazine, and the trip to Iceland (Anna, I'd seriously marry you) - but you guys have got to get your shit in check. Signing off...
- I.S.
GHSC
Quite a few people feel like this both my accounts are cancelled ( i wont be returning this time) and a few others i know are doing the same.
QFT - CCP's response to all this has made me sick to the ******* back teeth. I'm not sure what to do right now but cancellation is on the cards.
Good luck in WoW, Istvaan.
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Hermia
HIVE
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Posted - 2007.02.10 15:23:00 -
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This is quite a loss for eve online.
I remember my surprise when opening my "New Scientist" mag to see Istvaan Shogaatsu detailed as the eminent villian of the MMO genre. No doubt this guy has done wonders for eve and increased awareness for the whole market.
I believe that CCP demonstrated a lack of competency in this matter, yes, but they have also jumped on it adequately. No need to leave the game Istvaan. Please dont
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Arrgs
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:18:00 -
[45]
Sad day for Eve. Good luck with whatever you do dude.
My first video!
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Xrak
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: Xrak on 10/02/2007 18:18:58
Lol Istavaan, I am amazed that someone of your intelligence can be so naive about another game.
j0 has already pointed out examples, and I personally can attest to having a GM have a normal character in my guild when I played, and he wasnt worried about doing certain things now and then to help the guild and himself get a bit ahead.
Originally by: Empress Aphrodite
("don't flush it yet - let's freshen up the room a little")
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Karunel
Princeps Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:23:00 -
[47]
Well, you better stay in the irc channel, I like reading the crazy news you always link to.
Originally by: elbenito
The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
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Mitsuko Souma
Gallente
The United Federation of Spice
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Posted - 2007.02.10 18:26:00 -
[48]
Don't be a stranger to IRC m'kay :/
D.
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Empress Aphrodite
Soar Angelic
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:32:00 -
[49]
A sad day for Eve 
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2007.02.10 19:38:00 -
[50]
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Epoch
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Posted - 2007.02.11 00:17:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Xrak
Edited by: Xrak on 10/02/2007 18:18:58
Lol Istavaan, I am amazed that someone of your intelligence can be so naive about another game.
j0 has already pointed out examples, and I personally can attest to having a GM have a normal character in my guild when I played, and he wasnt worried about doing certain things now and then to help the guild and himself get a bit ahead.
the anti-WoW rhetoric is getting a bit old. post reputable links. frivolously trying to make comparisons between an inside scandal in a game w/ 8 million player base and ~150k player base. Completely oblivious to the fact the said *scandalous* incidents have a more profound impact on the players in a game like eve then WoW.
this type of behavior is prevalent in every mmorpg. i can remember examples in UO involving SiN on greatlakes. in eq on povar.
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari
Warhounds
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Posted - 2007.02.11 02:29:00 -
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i must admit Istvaan, i'd never heard of you before this post, but having read the numerous responses to your leaving is impressive, you must have been a helluva player.
but ol well, as long as the $$$ roll in, right CCP
ah the forums are fantastic and full of love
Originally by: Zions Child
its not worth it. karn, you have VERY little social skill and regard for basic human beings. People like you, are what make the world a |
Nachshon
Caldari
Gradient
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.11 02:43:00 -
[53]
Wait, Istvaan, the EVE pilot who was mentioned in A FRIGGIN SCIENCE JOURNAL is leaving?
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Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.11 03:03:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Hypatia Iola
i must admit Istvaan, i'd never heard of you before this post, but having read the numerous responses to your leaving is impressive, you must have been a helluva player.
but ol well, as long as the $$$ roll in, right CCP
http://eve.klaki.net/heist/
'splains most of it.
Sucks he's leaving, but oh well, they come and go.
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Xrak
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.11 03:16:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Epoch
Originally by: Xrak
Edited by: Xrak on 10/02/2007 18:18:58
Lol Istavaan, I am amazed that someone of your intelligence can be so naive about another game.
j0 has already pointed out examples, and I personally can attest to having a GM have a normal character in my guild when I played, and he wasnt worried about doing certain things now and then to help the guild and himself get a bit ahead.
the anti-WoW rhetoric is getting a bit old. post reputable links. frivolously trying to make comparisons between an inside scandal in a game w/ 8 million player base and ~150k player base. Completely oblivious to the fact the said *scandalous* incidents have a more profound impact on the players in a game like eve then WoW.
this type of behavior is prevalent in every mmorpg. i can remember examples in UO involving SiN on greatlakes. in eq on povar.
If you stopped and thought for a moment, you would realise that wasnt an Anti-WoW post. In fact in the past I think you will find I have on several occasions defended WoW from the eve critics, who call blashpemy at anyone who spoke about it, unwilling to open there eyes and see it for what it was and not as a rival to eve. The real irony of my experience of WoW, is that the people who belittled me for trying it are now the ones who are playing it, while I came back to Eve (even quicker then I expected to).
I cant post any proof of what I said afaik the guy was never caught. And yes events like the recents do have much more of an effect on a game like Eve then others, but what happened here I believe happens else where much more often and much more severly, with the game companies much less likely to come up with public apologies and the results the of investigation. I think Istavaan is blowing the situation out of proportion personally, but thats just my opinion, right?
GL Istavaan, go grief some noobs in another game somewhere.
Originally by: Empress Aphrodite
("don't flush it yet - let's freshen up the room a little")
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Verone
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.11 03:35:00 -
[56]
Good luck Tom, you've been an asset to Eve Online and a brought in a lot of players.
I'll miss your fan fiction, that's for damn sure.
Take it easy, and have a good one.
NEWEST MOVIE : VETO FOR HIRE
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Karunel
Princeps Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.11 10:36:00 -
[57]
Quote:
I'll miss your fan fiction, that's for damn sure.
Very true, E-ON real value just fell. :'<
Originally by: elbenito
The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
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Kehmor
Caldari
PAK
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Posted - 2007.02.11 13:04:00 -
[58]
An inspiration to many players, myself included, truly pushing the boundries of the dark side in eve, and doing it with style.
I only hope that such a high profile player leaving will show ccp that this is not a matter they can let slide and that proper investigation and public updates on the situation will have to be made.
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hired goon
Infinite Improbability Inc
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.11 14:27:00 -
[59]
NO
WHAT HAS CCP DONE
hg original recipe, I missed you at the fanfest, and now I'll probably never meet you. But I've followed the story of your character since you overthrew the CEO Endless Corporation. From the bottom of my trousers I will miss your contibution to the community.
I salute you sir. May your grind to godhood be paved with the suffering souls of thousands of innocent WoWers.
-omg-
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2007.02.11 14:34:00 -
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Meh, liez! You of all ppl wouldn't/shouldn't enjoy wow. >_>
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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mama guru
Gallente
Friendship 7 Corporation
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.02.11 16:09:00 -
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I saw you in space once, summer 05 i belive. Its indeed sad to see such a revered player leave the game and this if anything should hint to CCP that they might have to rethink if they should allow their developers to play the game at all.
I personally belive they should play as long as they train skills like a normal char, earns isk like a normal char and remains anonymous.
-YOU ARE NOW READING MY SIGNATURE-
EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |
Benco97
Gallente
Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2007.02.11 16:20:00 -
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Heh, amazing.
I wish you the best of luck in your new gaming venture Istvaan but I do fear that you may find it a shallow experience, still, we do what we have to in order to have fun, that's the very point of it really.
I'll still be here, as will many others but I have to ask, anyone else considering leaving over this incident, please do so quietly instead of trying to convince others to leave too.
"MY GOD KEEP THIS AWAY FROM BENCO97!!!!!" - Constantine Arcanum |
Multras
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.02.11 17:31:00 -
[63]
Very sad day indeed. Your the reason I started playing the game, and im sure im not alone.
Just remember, you cant pull such a feat off in WoW
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0Virtu0
Amarr
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.11 22:58:00 -
[64]
In reality I must post that he technically quit playing eve actively months and months ago. He didn't just start playing WoW a week ago.
But anyways, godspeed Istvaan! [level 70 flying mount failure :(((]
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Nir
The Doldrums
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Posted - 2007.02.11 23:24:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
Meh, liez! You of all ppl wouldn't/shouldn't enjoy wow. >_>
8 million players to grief.. I think he's just upping the ante.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
The Keep
THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.02.12 00:54:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Nir
Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
Meh, liez! You of all ppl wouldn't/shouldn't enjoy wow. >_>
8 million players to grief.. I think he's just upping the ante.
OMG the carnage
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MrDisposable
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.02.12 06:35:00 -
[67]
Sorry to see you go man, You are the reason why I started playing eve like so many others here.
Oh and will all the BoB asshats shut up and GTFO!
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BoB Alt
"This isn't about Dev misconduct.... ban the Ctrl+q'rs! They are the real problem behind it ALL!!!!!" |
Plan Neun
Caldari
Ganja Unlimited
CORE.
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Posted - 2007.02.12 10:08:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
First, came Taggart Transdimensional and their magic tech 5 mining laser. Now comes news of the most powerful alliance in the game being supported by CCP devs spawning BPOs worth billions for them. And, you know what they say - if you get caught for two crimes, it's a safe bet you've gotten away with more. The mere fact that you banned a player who brought your missteps to light is the icing on the cake.
My time in Eve has come to an end. My character and various expensive stuff will be given to friends I've made throughout my years of playing. I can't abide these repeated incidents of outright cheating on the part of the very people who made this game. If you want to get in touch with me, I'll be on World of Warcraft's Arygos server playing as "Thrakhath". At least there I don't have to think about GMs funneling thousands of gold coins to players they like.
Thanks for the fun times, the opportunity to be published in a magazine, and the trip to Iceland (Anna, I'd seriously marry you) - but you guys have got to get your shit in check. Signing off...
- I.S.
GHSC
I think many Eve-gamers is considering the same Istvaan Shogaatsu. Now I hope that Kieron understands that _all questions_ have to be answered.
Dev's must be kicked from whatever playercorps/alliances theyr currently in and so on. When final thorough pressrealese comes from CCP it will affect my future choice towards Eve-Online.
Anyway whatever choice you make I wish you the very best.
Cheers
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2007.02.12 10:18:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Nir
Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
Meh, liez! You of all ppl wouldn't/shouldn't enjoy wow. >_>
8 million players to grief.. I think he's just upping the ante.
As a bystander I really can't understand how you can grief someone in wow. Could someone please explain to me the possible ways to grief someone without hacking their account? What can you do to someone that would make them quit the game?
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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AmSo Happy
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Posted - 2007.02.12 11:43:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
Originally by: Nir
Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
Meh, liez! You of all ppl wouldn't/shouldn't enjoy wow. >_>
8 million players to grief.. I think he's just upping the ante.
As a bystander I really can't understand how you can grief someone in wow. Could someone please explain to me the possible ways to grief someone without hacking their account? What can you do to someone that would make them quit the game?
It's not that difficult to grief in WoW. The difference is that griefing in Eve has more lasting effects than griefing in WoW. Griefing in WoW is an annoyance that may destroy the current session for the player being griefed, while in Eve, when you grief you're doing financial damage(mostly) which can set back a player/corporation back in time(depending on how much of a financial hit it was).
It's not the same scale of griefing, but griefing nonetheless. |
Kehmor
Caldari
PAK
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Posted - 2007.02.12 13:51:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
Originally by: Nir
Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
Meh, liez! You of all ppl wouldn't/shouldn't enjoy wow. >_>
8 million players to grief.. I think he's just upping the ante.
As a bystander I really can't understand how you can grief someone in wow. Could someone please explain to me the possible ways to grief someone without hacking their account? What can you do to someone that would make them quit the game?
i convinced a guy to give me his shirt once. then got a GM warning... His shirt ffs.. they don't even do anything.
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2007.02.12 14:09:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Liu Kaskakka on 12/02/2007 14:08:50
Originally by: AmSo Happy
It's not the same scale of griefing, but griefing nonetheless.
"Damnit, I'mma quit this stupid game if I have to spend yet another minute of coming back here from the cemetery! "
"I told someone I can build them something but then I didn't give them the item but then he told the GMs and they took the item from me and gave it back!"
****ing fairyland.. you can't do anything meaninful to another player .. like playing poker without betting anything; might be fun for a few minutes but the novelty wears out rather quickly ..
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.02.12 15:53:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Ilya Murametz on 12/02/2007 15:51:49
Originally by: Xrak
Edited by: Xrak on 10/02/2007 18:18:58
Lol Istavaan, I am amazed that someone of your intelligence can be so naive about another game.
j0 has already pointed out examples, and I personally can attest to having a GM have a normal character in my guild when I played, and he wasnt worried about doing certain things now and then to help the guild and himself get a bit ahead.
That must of gave you an idea that its ok to do it in eve also.... 
I'll go wait in the corner for my ban now....
P.S.
Best of luck to you fellow in WoW or where ever else you might go. Farewell from HYBOs
You gotta be ****ting me... |
Y'HELO THAR
True Salvation
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Posted - 2007.02.12 22:34:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Verone
I'll miss your fan fiction, that's for damn sure.
same here
toodles :[
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Araxmas
Black Lance
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.12 23:11:00 -
[75]
Wow is it me or are people waaay over-reacting about this whole dev thing?
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Ifni
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.02.13 09:57:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Ifni on 13/02/2007 09:56:03
I think you're blowing this completely out of proportion and not helping the situation. Still, shame to see your writings go.
/me tackles HellGremlin on IRC. irc.coldfront.net #eve-online
You take what is offered. And that must sometimes be enough. |
Brother Benthor
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.13 10:27:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Brother Benthor on 13/02/2007 10:24:24
Originally by: Jennifer Meek
Have fun with the gold farmers.
News flash: EVE has gold farmers too, but they are called Macro Miners. The only diference, is that EVE took cheating to another level with developers cheating to win the game.
edit: btw, enjoy WoW mate :) might see you there one of this days
-ACCEPTING new REQUESTS- |
Phoenus
Caldari
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.13 16:42:00 -
[78]
Cya Istvaan, best of luck in WoW, and it's a genuine shame to see you go
[ 2006.08.16 20:49:06 ] (combat) Your Electron Blaster Cannon II barely scratches Dominix [NTEMS]<HELLH>(Dominix), causing 1908.4 damage. |
Richard Aiel
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Posted - 2007.02.13 18:24:00 -
[79]
Never met Istvaan but like many he was the reason I got into the game.
If any of you dont know of Istvaan's glorious past here it is:
http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page10rt.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page23fx.jpg
http://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page34wl.jpg
http://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page44eb.jpg
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Cyberflayer
Mercurialis Inc.
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.13 19:08:00 -
[80]
Nice try Istvaan, but you're not fooling me. I'm on to you.
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Originally by: JabJabVVV
Apparently titans cost over a billion isk to produce
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.14 00:29:00 -
[81]
...........................
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Stay away from my signature all of ya!!! IM WARNING YOU!!
PEW PEW PEW PEW!
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.14 00:33:00 -
[82]
Why? i love you.... lol
I was going to quit... read that article in PCG... i convoed you to congratulate you i was that impressed..... i dont ever do that
You might be the only person who plays this game that i actually have any respect for... if you leave then others will be soon after.. im not leaving.. mainly because even with the Dev situation its better than every other MMO ive ever tried... including WoW which got dull exceedingly fast..
or more likely this is just a ploy so that when a new target suspects an infiltrator to be of your kind... they wont be worried becuase "istvaan has left the game"
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Stay away from my signature all of ya!!! IM WARNING YOU!!
PEW PEW PEW PEW!
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Royaldo
Old Farts
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Posted - 2007.02.14 07:37:00 -
[83]
out of proportions?
some asshat posted someones rl details on this forum ffs and got away with it..
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FooB2
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.14 11:26:00 -
[84]
LETS ALL GO PLAY RUNESCAPE
Signature removed, please avoid using images involving relgious symbols like that. -Ivan K |
M00dy
Stain of Mind
DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2007.02.14 20:48:00 -
[85]
Sad to see you go. GL in your future.
HAXORZ TO THE MAXORZ BABY, YEAH!!!
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kublai
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2007.02.14 22:28:00 -
[86]
Now this...is depressing.
You are one of the few players I truly respect Istvaan.
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Virida
Mindstar Technology
United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.02.14 23:20:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Virida on 14/02/2007 23:17:53
Well, ive seen volunteer support staff and, what i belive, was real devs in a different game(i belived they was devs, but i didnt say anything, never did, since devs got the right to be anonymous).
And the one i think is dev, is still playing the game, years after,and i still havent done anything. But i was turoughly disapointed, since it dawned on me, it didnt matter if it was a dev, since, a hardcore game playing would play the same, if he is a dev, or not. And the ones i though was dev/devs, was the worst exploiters ive seen.
My reaction to the p20 incident in EVE was: "doh, not again! not in EVE!" and feeling sorry for whar result it would give for EVE and CCP's reputation
Im sorry to see EVE's absolutely most famous gamer go though Have a nice stay in the land of crayola trolls and gnomes with pink hair
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Stanley Savior
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Posted - 2007.04.27 05:15:00 -
[88]
good luck man i looked and saw these threads wow you were stil playing...
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Benglada
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.27 05:21:00 -
[89]
i never heard anything about a t5 mining laser?
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Originally by: Arkanor
0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
Sig nerfz0r - maximum allowed siz0r is 24000 bytz0r. - Devil ([email protected])
Sig By Ortos |
Ethion
Amoral Self Promoters
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Posted - 2007.04.27 06:01:00 -
[90]
*crys* I never knew you or spoke to you ingame, But I wanted to say my thanks for being one of my eve Hero's. I will miss you and remember you as a Legend who wont be surpassed. So long my hero.
-Ethion
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Mimiru
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.27 06:20:00 -
[91]
old thread is old
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Weebear
The Bowrey
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Posted - 2007.04.27 08:49:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Benglada
i never heard anything about a t5 mining laser?
They were capable of excavating threads from hundreds of pages back on the forums! |
mamolian
Vortex.
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.27 09:15:00 -
[93]
I guess theres only so many different ways one can rob a corp.. and only so many times someone can spend months or years to gain trust just to steal bpos etc?
Also, I'd imagine running his kind of business takes a lot of real world money, (unless hes paying for his accounts with ISK etc) to keep many different alts on the go etc.. Time consuming and costly.
As for his final message, In a community as small and complicated as Eve-O, the recent scandal, leaves a sour taste in a lot of players mouths. Personally I couldnt give a ****e, I'll continue to play eve for as long as I enjoy it. As for Istvaan here, it seems to me, Eve has run its course, and he needs a break in a game thats a little less demanding on your life. If he ever comes back, it may not be announced, and it maybe on an alt, but in the long run, WOW is not a worthy replacement for Eve :)
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.27 10:11:00 -
[94]
Well, never heard of ya, but have fun in WoW. It's actually far better then people on these forums gfive it credit.
Try out a RPPVP or normal PVP server, can kill anyone, fun 
Oh and if i'm not mistaken, the makers of EVE have done nothing wrong, but the GM's more so.
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Godlesswanderer
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.04.27 14:01:00 -
[95]
Istvaan left 2 months ago and no one told me?!
Sorry to see you go, man. Honestly, hearing about the GHSC heist was what got me into EVE. EVE's lost a fantastic player.
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Custom made EVE graphics |
Agent Li
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Posted - 2007.04.27 14:07:00 -
[96]
I can't say I like Counterstrike *over* Eve, but it does have one thing that Eve doesn't - gibs.
I love gibs.
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"Don't be afraid to take advantage of your enemy's weaknesses. Becasuse winning is everything after all." |
Vari
Carbide Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.27 15:58:00 -
[97]
When a mastermind of GHSC says, 'yo, what you guys did was ****** up' and quits the game because of it, it's a bad sign.
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D'ranged
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Posted - 2007.04.27 16:26:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Vari
When a mastermind of GHSC says, 'yo, what you guys did was ****** up' and quits the game because of it, it's a bad sign.
/signed
since the GM 'cheating scandal' and last weeks 'lets remove skills from peoples heads' and alter the patch notes afterwards... mosta my mates on here have quit
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Reycks Armunicus
Gallente
CoreTech Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.27 17:18:00 -
[99]
He'll be back
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mods are strangely fixated on content... |
Inflicted
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Posted - 2007.04.27 19:57:00 -
[100]
WTS 70 undead rogue. Can be swapped to any pvp server. pst!!
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Refrag
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Posted - 2007.05.26 15:49:00 -
[101]
Hellgremlin!! 
See you made quite a name in the EVE-online community like you did back in the pre-gold periode with Endless Corporation :D
I'm checking up on all other fellow Endless corp people of that periode. Difficult to find them though... except for you, being such a public figure and all :P
To bad to see you leave. Take care!
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Peter Armstrong
Caldari
5punkorp
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.05.26 15:55:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Refrag
Hellgremlin!!
See you made quite a name in the EVE-online community like you did back in the pre-gold periode with Endless Corporation :D
I'm checking up on all other fellow Endless corp people of that periode. Difficult to find them though... except for you, being such a public figure and all :P
To bad to see you leave. Take care!
a post a month old and yet you post this? mmmm spam?
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It's all part of the Experiance!
"IAC: Our wrecks will blot out the sun. BUM: Then we will loot in the shade." :) |
Refrag
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Posted - 2007.05.26 18:40:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Peter Armstrong
Originally by: Refrag
Hellgremlin!!
See you made quite a name in the EVE-online community like you did back in the pre-gold periode with Endless Corporation :D
I'm checking up on all other fellow Endless corp people of that periode. Difficult to find them though... except for you, being such a public figure and all :P
To bad to see you leave. Take care!
a post a month old and yet you post this? mmmm spam?
OMG!! An entire month?
I guess it HAS to be spam then!
Perhaps you have to look up the definition of spam. :)
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Radgun
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.05.26 20:41:00 -
[104]
you can come to my group in Guild Wars if you ever change your mind, I take it you being a member of GHSC would make you a natural for the Mesmer class
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Vari
Carbide Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.26 20:45:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Radgun
you can come to my group in Guild Wars if you ever change your mind, I take it you being a member of GHSC would make you a natural for the Mesmer class
Can I join your guild?
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Araxmas
The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency
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Posted - 2007.05.26 21:01:00 -
[106]
Someone get the lube I smell necro shananigans.
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Robbie Rotten left me |
Lucian Alucard
Caldari
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.05.26 21:41:00 -
[107]
If Ist is going away then we should all take a hard look at this.
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Saint Lazarus
Guardian Heroes Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.26 21:59:00 -
[108]
Sooooooo.............did he ever come back in teh end then?
If he did this second scandels sure to drive'em back to WoW for good
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.26 22:05:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Saint Lazarus
Sooooooo.............did he ever come back in teh end then?
If he did this second scandels sure to drive'em back to WoW for good
No, and it looks like it has.
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xRazoRx
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.05.27 07:48:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
But come on, at least give the devs a chance to fire t20. 
They now have one more guy to fire :P
Death is only the beginning... |
sartorii
Genco
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.27 12:25:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Booster Junkie
Sooooooo CCP... ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION YET?
You inspired many, myself included. Thanks for leaving the mark you did, because it has always been people like you who made this game worth playing. It won't be the same game without you.
signed.
this has gone on far to long, its going to take some major action before CCP regains any faith or trust.
I just dont see that happening. I imagine alot more Veteran players will be hanging up accounts before CCP recognizes that they way they sweep clear conflicts of interest and abuses of power under the rug are ruining this game.
sad to see you go... CCP wake up! clean house, and level the playing field before the last strand of faith is broken.
"disconnect and self destruct one mullet at at time" [sic] |
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