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Khaiton LaSalle The Scope Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2011.12.17 02:07:00 - [1] - Quote Before I start, I have not searched the forums about this topic. I want to rant a bit. Griefers and mining barges. Have the powers that be ever been given grief about how easy it is to kill mining barges? I know that the game is suppose to have a level of risk, yadda, yadda, yadda. But can we not get a buff of the barges so that we can at least fight back a little bit? I lost a covetor to a Thrasher in 10 seconds. I did not even get a chance to launch my drones! So, if it has not already been beaten to death, can we all scream at CCP to buff the barges. Thank you for your support.
Lady Spank GET OUT NASTY FACE 515	Posted - 2011.12.17 03:28:00 - [2] - Quote mining barges are cheap hunks of scrap metal supporting a ore processing machine, how much tank do you think they should have? if you want to mine in high sec in safety use a battleship, or go mine in low or null where you at least have to pay attention and can realistically deal with hostile (anyone in system). People that expect to mine in safety in empire in exhumers are greedy and out of touch with the modern game. Adapt or die is never a more appropriate mantra than in this instance. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â)
Federigo Mondial Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 8	Posted - 2011.12.17 04:13:00 - [3] - Quote Med Shield tank and put a DCU on your damn miner then with shield rigs. You might just survive a single dessie gank and live long enough to deploy your ECM drones then run away. As for being "mining slower", suck it up.
Kate Lockwell 404 File Not Found 4	Posted - 2011.12.17 06:11:00 - [4] - Quote You know you can fit modules other then cargo expanders and minning upgrades to your barges.
Jojo Jackson Dead Red Eye 15	Posted - 2011.12.17 09:55:00 - [5] - Quote Lady Spank wrote: mining barges are cheap hunks of scrap metal supporting a ore processing machine, how much tank do you think they should have? As much as a standart T1 cruiser like Arbitrator or Vexor. They are medium hulls which need medium rigs and aren't able to fit medium rep/booster or plates/shields ??? Bad joke !! Common fits for Arbitrator or Vexor include largh shield extender AND all the stuff they need to fight. Even a Hulk ... TECH 2 MULTI MILLION DOLLER SHIP ... can't fit a MEDIUM extender without problems (fitting mods)! 3*Stripe miner + 1 MEDIUM T2 shield extender == NOT POSIBLE without fitting mods. I realy want to see your tears when you can't fit even a MEDIUM extender on your shiny pew pew TECH TWO cruiser ! Plain and simple FAIL BALANCE! Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!
Kuzzka Perkone Caldari State 7	Posted - 2011.12.17 11:24:00 - [6] - Quote I do understand that High sec isn't suppose to be 100% safe, but loosing a 230 mil hulk to a single pilot on cheap ship with one shot is stupid, because the risk is minimum to a suicide ganker. CCP also gifted to those pilots a cruiser with capability to use large weapons, i guess soon the risk being in High Sec will be as much the same as being in nulsec. Funny thing is that those suicide gankers are killing not for profit but for the easiest Killboard kills.
Dane Eham Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS 0	Posted - 2011.12.17 12:54:00 - [7] - Quote Why are you flying a 230M ship that can be destroyed by a single pilot in a cheap ship? Especially when you know that people like to explode hulks for giggles? I don't think the hulk needs a buff. I think CCP needs to release a hulk variant with the exact same stats, two high slots and a prohibition on cargo expanders and mining upgrades. That should make tanking it a much easier decision.
Max Von Sydow Droneboat Diplomacy 84	Posted - 2011.12.17 14:45:00 - [8] - Quote Lady Spank wrote: mining barges are cheap hunks of scrap metal So are minmatar ships and they seem to tank just fine. The tank of the barges gives me the impression that they are made of cardboard and wood rather than metal.
Zarnak Wulf Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 148	Posted - 2011.12.17 15:19:00 - [9] - Quote The gears and cogs of capitalism would cause manufacturers to build better mouse traps to meet demand. Like making the deimos have a smaller sig radius and move faster. O wait....
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost 8	Posted - 2011.12.17 16:10:00 - [10] - Quote Max Von Sydow wrote: Lady Spank wrote: mining barges are cheap hunks of scrap metal So are minmatar ships and they seem to tank just fine. The tank of the barges gives me the impression that they are made of cardboard and wood rather than metal. More like tissue paper...c'mon, the Vaga has better survivability than the Hulk!

Lady Spank GET OUT NASTY FACE 528	Posted - 2011.12.17 16:12:00 - [11] - Quote It's a mining barge not a combat vessel. If you insist on flying it while knowing what's inevitably going to happen you are simply an idiot. If I took to autopiloting freighters through gatecamps I wouldn't come whine for a buff after the obvious lossmail. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â)
Prince Kobol 101	Posted - 2011.12.17 16:30:00 - [12] - Quote Hulk can have 24k EHP and still mine 4000m3 per cycle... More then enough
Boris Ginnungagap Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2011.12.17 16:32:00 - [13] - Quote Well, it's pretty obvius that when you can't do better than blow up unarmed ships, then you can't do better than that.
Max Von Sydow Droneboat Diplomacy 84	Posted - 2011.12.17 16:46:00 - [14] - Quote Though I guess I should make it clear that I don't think buffing the tank of mining barges is the right way to go. Instead I think they should buff the agility and speed so that they have a better chance of escaping a gank. Would also make traveling with a barge less annoying.
Billionaire Carebear University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.12.17 17:47:00 - [15] - Quote Said it before and will say it again...mining barges should detonate like grain silos when fired upon with an explosion large enough to destroy/cripple the attacking ship. A mining barge half full of valuable ore should be an explosion waiting to happen since the ore has been 'energized' by the mining laser as it was harvested. There should be a 1% chance of the barge exploding without being fired upon in the first place! Yes, I Am A n00b. Please don't hold it against me.
Boris Ginnungagap Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 19	Posted - 2011.12.17 17:47:00 - [16] - Quote Best solution is that concord wouldn't allow capsuleer below -1.99 security status through high security jump gates and jump gates leading to high security space.
B17332 Single Barrel Securities Trust Jack Daniel's Industries 1	Posted - 2011.12.17 18:30:00 - [17] - Quote Naw. Give Exhumers a cruiser equivalent tank but remove their strip mining bonuses. Leave the specialist bonuses. Then boost the strip mining yield bonus on all of the barges. You want the best m3/hour then barge is your choice. You want survival then exhumer is your choice.
Jojo Jackson Dead Red Eye 16	Posted - 2011.12.17 18:55:00 - [18] - Quote Prince Kobol wrote: Hulk can have 24k EHP and still mine 4000m3 per cycle... More then enough all 5 char get's 1301.8359 cycle * 3 ~= 3906 peer cycle + using 2 * T2 invu + 1 * T2 med shield extender => ALLREADY 61.25 of 43.75 grid ignoring the fact, that you do NOT have enough grid for this simple fit using 2 * T1 Defence Field Extender rigs => 22.865 EHP so either you need fitting mods just to gain a half decent EHP or you need to use deadspace moduls WHICH MAKE YOU EVEN A BIGGER TARGET. Right, a solo destroyer can't suizid you then ... but with deadspace stuff they take 2 Tornados. You lose even MORE then without any tank! -> STUPID (and wrong) ADVICE TROLL ! And all over it's like: "You are not allowed to use weapon upgrades on your shiny pew pew ship but have to fly with 50% less DPS then posible !" Which would be indeed a part of a solution as without 4 weapon mods it wouldn't be able to do enough alpha anymore . Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!
Jojo Jackson Dead Red Eye 16	Posted - 2011.12.17 19:02:00 - [19] - Quote Boris Ginnungagap wrote: Best solution is that concord wouldn't allow capsuleer below -1.99 security status through high security jump gates and jump gates leading to high security space. When CONCORDER they should be jailed for 7, 14, 21, ... days -> unable to undock or trade! In addition all the drobbed loot can ONLY be taken by the victim. Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!
Emperor Salazar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 274	Posted - 2011.12.17 19:18:00 - [20] - Quote Is this your main? Where do you usually mine? I'd be happy to come and provide security for you.

Emperor Salazar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 274	Posted - 2011.12.17 19:19:00 - [21] - Quote Jojo Jackson wrote: Boris Ginnungagap wrote: Best solution is that concord wouldn't allow capsuleer below -1.99 security status through high security jump gates and jump gates leading to high security space. When CONCORDER they should be jailed for 7, 14, 21, ... days -> unable to undock or trade! In addition all the drobbed loot can ONLY be taken by the victim. On a scale of 1 to down syndrome, how stupid do you feel?
Digital Messiah Heroic Era 80	Posted - 2011.12.17 19:29:00 - [22] - Quote [Hulk, max yield] Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Survey Scanner I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Medium Cargohold Optimization II Medium Cargohold Optimization II Mining Drone II x5 1859 yield Or you fly this [Hulk, Tank] Shield Flux Coil II Damage Control II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Small Shield Booster II Survey Scanner I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Medium Core Defence Field Purger II Medium Core Defence Field Purger II Hammerhead II x5 1302 yeild 176 omni tank for 3 min 31 secs 71/77/83/84 resists. "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" Enter a Heroic Era Today
Goose99 Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 317	Posted - 2011.12.17 19:50:00 - [23] - Quote The new and improved Catalyst pumps out 800 dps overheated (no, you won't need those guns later). An exhumer, much less barge, won't tank it no matter what you do. Just be like everyone else and run ratting bots deep within the blue ass of a large alliance, where you don't see hostiles for weeks on end.
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost 8	Posted - 2011.12.17 19:55:00 - [24] - Quote BTW: you CAN wedge a MSE onto a Hulk, you just need to use a MAPC to do so, which says something about how wimpy the Hulk's power core is.
Isan'na Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest 5	Posted - 2011.12.17 20:42:00 - [25] - Quote Impossibru! [Hulk, Tank] Damage Control II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II Medium Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Survey Scanner II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I 27.8k EHP nonoverheat. Overheat the Invulns to get 31k.
Emperor Salazar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 276	Posted - 2011.12.17 21:10:00 - [26] - Quote Isan'na wrote: Impossibru! [Hulk, Tank] Damage Control II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II Medium Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Survey Scanner II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I 27.8k EHP nonoverheat. Overheat the Invulns to get 31k. 36.8k EHP nonoverheated with a mindlinked, T2 shield harmonizing link Tengu boosting. 40k overheated
Songbird 44	Posted - 2011.12.18 06:27:00 - [27] - Quote if it fits medium rigs it's a cruiser/BC sized hull - it should have enough for L shield extender and an AB(or second extender). MAPC on a cruiser sized hull should never be even considered. MAPC screams frigate.
Rip Minner ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries 35	Posted - 2011.12.18 07:17:00 - [28] - Quote Khaiton LaSalle wrote: Before I start, I have not searched the forums about this topic. I want to rant a bit. Griefers and mining barges. Have the powers that be ever been given grief about how easy it is to kill mining barges? I know that the game is suppose to have a level of risk, yadda, yadda, yadda. But can we not get a buff of the barges so that we can at least fight back a little bit? I lost a covetor to a Thrasher in 10 seconds. I did not even get a chance to launch my drones! So, if it has not already been beaten to death, can we all scream at CCP to buff the barges. Thank you for your support. Stop using a Covetor and start using a Hulk. You can easly fit a good tank to a Hulk that will let you launch your light ECM drones and keep alined to a station startgate. Mine in a group get a Orca to fit a shield booster and so on. It's not that bad. But I would love to see a Tech 3 enterchangable. i.e. No it do's not mine more but say I could set it up like a hulk but swap out the Ice mining bonus for say a +2 Warpcore. Or set it up to work like a Notical or a gas miner. Or just a good Idustrial hauler like the Orca or less if people think thats to much for a Tech 3 then like a Mark V. Edit: But I dream of a tech 3 like Orca/cloakie/Injector null/ hauler.
Isan'na Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest 5	Posted - 2011.12.18 08:17:00 - [29] - Quote Songbird wrote: if it fits medium rigs it's a cruiser/BC sized hull - it should have enough for L shield extender and an AB(or second extender). MAPC on a cruiser sized hull should never be even considered. MAPC screams frigate. Because balancing should be due to sweeping generalizations, right?
Lunkwill Khashour Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 6	Posted - 2011.12.18 12:02:00 - [30] - Quote Songbird wrote: if it fits medium rigs it's a cruiser/BC sized hull - it should have enough for L shield extender and an AB(or second extender). L extender is BS sized module. That so many medium hulls can fit one is a side effect of its low grid requirements but medium hulls 'are supposed' to use medium extenders. I'ld also like to know the context of when said gank happened. If you're in low or null and a combat ships happens upon you, you should be prepared. Have non mining drones when something appears in local/d-scan for example. OTOH a destroyer shouldn't be able to solo suicide gank a big ship in high sec. Suicide ganking should be a viable option, but not for week old alts.



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