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Caligula Nalelmir Cobalt Brigade 1	Posted - 2016.03.21 20:48:26 - [1] - Quote As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's
TigerXtrm KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1407	Posted - 2016.03.21 20:54:48 - [2] - Quote None of that will save you. There is one thing that will save you, but I'm not telling. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! My Website - Blogs, Livestreams & Forums
Paranoid Loyd 8741	Posted - 2016.03.21 20:58:20 - [3] - Quote TigerXtrm wrote: None of that will save you. There is one thing that will save you, but I'm not telling. This Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 10028	Posted - 2016.03.21 21:06:23 - [4] - Quote Caligula Nalelmir wrote: As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's Or just sell the freighter and do what the smart people do with a spare 1.3 billion ISK. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 11362	Posted - 2016.03.21 21:14:38 - [5] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: Caligula Nalelmir wrote: As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's Or just sell the freighter and do what the smart people do with a spare 1.3 billion ISK. Mr Epeen They go out and buy thousands upon thousands of Iteron Vs and fit cargo expanders and T2 expanded cargohold rigs? Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Pandora Carrollon Kingsman Tailors 117	Posted - 2016.03.21 21:21:21 - [6] - Quote Bumblefck wrote: They go out and buy thousands upon thousands of Iteron Vs and fit cargo expanders and T2 expanded cargohold rigs? No they go round up a thousand friends and get Battle Nereus fits and blob every Dec'cer from Amar to Jita to Dodixie. Death of a Thousand Nereus cuts! Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game -- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
Caligula Nalelmir Cobalt Brigade 1	Posted - 2016.03.21 21:29:34 - [7] - Quote Bumblefck wrote: Mr Epeen wrote: Caligula Nalelmir wrote: As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's Or just sell the freighter and do what the smart people do with a spare 1.3 billion ISK. Mr Epeen They go out and buy thousands upon thousands of Iteron Vs and fit cargo expanders and T2 expanded cargohold rigs? yes, buy by fleets of iteronV's and fly them with one account! wheeeeeee!
W33b3l The Scope Gallente Federation 67	Posted - 2016.03.21 21:30:31 - [8] - Quote Orca with a battle tank lol.
Kieron VonDeux 121	Posted - 2016.03.21 21:36:00 - [9] - Quote If this starts getting out of scope in what CCP thinks is inline with their game design, they will nerf hi sec ganking into history. Wouldn't be the first time this has happened with an abused game mechanic.
NEONOVUS Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us 989	Posted - 2016.03.21 21:38:33 - [10] - Quote What happened to make Hisec ganking a big thing again? Last time I was here it was around a bil in cargo got you pegged.
Indahmawar Fazmarai 4945	Posted - 2016.03.21 21:45:57 - [11] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: Caligula Nalelmir wrote: As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's Or just sell the freighter and do what the smart people do with a spare 1.3 billion ISK. Mr Epeen Hire professional haulers. CCP Seagull: "EVE should be a universe where the infrastructure you build and fight over is as player driven and dynamic as the EVE market is now". 62% of players: "We're not interested. May we have Plan B, please?" CCP Seagull: "What Plan B?"
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri New Order Logistics CODE. 417	Posted - 2016.03.21 21:49:43 - [12] - Quote Or tank with CCP instead. If you cry about something long enough, the developers cave eventually. It works!
Caligula Nalelmir Cobalt Brigade 1	Posted - 2016.03.21 21:51:03 - [13] - Quote Kieron VonDeux wrote: If this starts getting out of scope in what CCP thinks is inline with their game design, they will nerf hi sec ganking into history. Wouldn't be the first time this has happened with an abused game mechanic. I'm not so sure CCP's atrocious situation THEY have created is NOT abuse by players. All they need to address is the the damage output of 60 tech 1 destroyers and static tank the freighters. If you can get 60 crazy pilots together then i guess the freighter is going to go down. right now it seems 38 can be rounded up.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 2305	Posted - 2016.03.21 21:55:07 - [14] - Quote Caligula Nalelmir wrote: As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's I don't know where people get this stuff. Freighter kills in March are on pace to be well below last month as well as below the six month average. Do we really need this alarmist GD post? I guess a PSA can't hurt: Freighter pilots you should tank your ships! You should also pay attention, scout your route, fly with an escort, not carry multiple billions in cargo and get yourselves a permit. Even all of this may not save you, so remember the Golden Rules of Eve and never fly something you cannot afford to lose. Stay strong brave freighter pilots. Your strength in the face of adversity is a real inspiration to gamers everywhere. o7 Why Do They Gank?
Caligula Nalelmir Cobalt Brigade 1	Posted - 2016.03.21 21:55:35 - [15] - Quote NEONOVUS wrote: What happened to make Hisec ganking a big thing again? Last time I was here it was around a bil in cargo got you pegged. well it seems 38 10M frigs will down a freighter
Caligula Nalelmir Cobalt Brigade 1	Posted - 2016.03.21 21:56:21 - [16] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Caligula Nalelmir wrote: As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's I don't know where people get this stuff. Freighter kills in March are on pace to be well below last month as well as below the six month average. Do we really need this alarmist GD post? I guess a PSA can't hurt: Freighter pilots you should tank your ships! You should also pay attention, scout your route, fly with an escort, not carry multiple billions in cargo and get yourselves a permit. Even all of this may not save you, so remember the Golden Rules of Eve and never fly something you cannot afford to lose. Stay strong brave freighter pilots. Your strength in the face of adversity is a real inspiration to gamers everywhere. o7 freight kills are double from Oct 2015
Paranoid Loyd 8741	Posted - 2016.03.21 22:08:52 - [17] - Quote Caligula Nalelmir wrote: freight kills are double from Oct 2015 Oh we're just picking and choosing months and stats to match what we want the numbers to reflect? OK well in the same months being compared freighters have killed more than twice as many ships! Nerf freighters! Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
Memphis Baas 1364	Posted - 2016.03.21 22:17:04 - [18] - Quote To be fair, he didn't say "doubled compared to what" in the title thread. It's just the typical wording used in advertising: get more, it's better, it's cheaper, 2x the sheets, etc.
Poddington Bare T.I.C Solyaris Chtonium 303	Posted - 2016.03.21 22:22:10 - [19] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Freighter kills in March are on pace to be well below last month as well as below the six month average. So...you are basically saying that Eve is dying? Is it starting to turn into RAPID?
Aaron Honk Distributed Denial of Service 49	Posted - 2016.03.21 22:26:27 - [20] - Quote TigerXtrm wrote: None of that will save you. There is one thing that will save you, but I'm not telling. not flying a freighter ?
NEONOVUS Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us 989	Posted - 2016.03.21 22:35:28 - [21] - Quote I would also like to use this moment to comment on the record number of MTU losses I have this month in Udema to gankers. Specifically, please make sure I can actually engage you first before trying to bait me. You weren't flying minmatar, t2 salvagers can't hurt you.
ashley Eoner 500	Posted - 2016.03.21 23:24:15 - [22] - Quote Caligula Nalelmir wrote: As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's Isk is almost entirely irrelevant outside of freighters with +5b in items. They gank empty freighters when they cannot find the big loot pinatas. The freighter you fly is pretty irrelevant. AN obby dies almost as fast as a charon when 38 catas are shooting it. Skills help very little but won't stop a gank if they start bumping you. Fitting all lows with bulkheads means nothing when 38 catas are shooting you. Real advice would be something like. Use an alt with webs Use an alt to scout the Niarja pipeline and when the gankers are GCC hop over to the frieghter and quickly move through. You've got like 15 minutes before the gankers can strike again. If you don't need the space of a freighter for your cargo then use a ship with MWD/cloak. Hell even a bowhead fitted for align with a mwd can be an utter nightmare to bump.
Caligula Nalelmir Cobalt Brigade 1	Posted - 2016.03.21 23:28:54 - [23] - Quote ashley Eoner wrote: Caligula Nalelmir wrote: As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's Isk is almost entirely irrelevant outside of freighters with +5b in items. They gank empty freighters when they cannot find the big loot pinatas. The freighter you fly is pretty irrelevant. AN obby dies almost as fast as a charon when 38 catas are shooting it. Skills help very little but won't stop a gank if they start bumping you. Fitting all lows with bulkheads means nothing when 38 catas are shooting you. Real advice would be something like. Use an alt with webs Use an alt to scout the Niarja pipeline and when the gankers are GCC hop over to the frieghter and quickly move through. You've got like 15 minutes before the gankers can strike again. If you don't need the space of a freighter for your cargo then use a ship with MWD/cloak. Hell even a bowhead fitted for align with a mwd can be an utter nightmare to bump. Those are great ideas. Slows down the process very much though, but those ideas are so valid.
Knitram Relik Running With Railguns 47	Posted - 2016.03.21 23:39:20 - [24] - Quote Look at the map. If Uedama, Niarja, or whatever is as red as Jita for kills in the last hour maybe avoid it. And get a permit. What's the worst that could happen? My whole corp is CODE. compliant and I've taken 10bil+ thru hot pipes with no problems. Just say hi to the agents in system and fly compliant. And before you reply "Grrr CODE.", have you actually tried flying compliant?
NEONOVUS Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us 989	Posted - 2016.03.21 23:48:42 - [25] - Quote Caligula Nalelmir wrote: ashley Eoner wrote: Caligula Nalelmir wrote: As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's Isk is almost entirely irrelevant outside of freighters with +5b in items. They gank empty freighters when they cannot find the big loot pinatas. The freighter you fly is pretty irrelevant. AN obby dies almost as fast as a charon when 38 catas are shooting it. Skills help very little but won't stop a gank if they start bumping you. Fitting all lows with bulkheads means nothing when 38 catas are shooting you. Real advice would be something like. Use an alt with webs Use an alt to scout the Niarja pipeline and when the gankers are GCC hop over to the frieghter and quickly move through. You've got like 15 minutes before the gankers can strike again. If you don't need the space of a freighter for your cargo then use a ship with MWD/cloak. Hell even a bowhead fitted for align with a mwd can be an utter nightmare to bump. Those are great ideas. Slows down the process very much though, but those ideas are so valid. I got one to add here, don't think an ecm burstion is too low a price to pay for saving yourself. Sure, the character is going to need a high sec status to survive the concording from bursting on the bumpers and whit knights, but its much better than loosing your billions freighter. Also really hilarious to do to the gank squad. Do it just as they land on grid and are locking, do it too early and the gank squad won't be engaged and concorded themselves. Do loot the wrecks of the ganker, it will easily pay for the burstion.
ashley Eoner 500	Posted - 2016.03.22 00:10:43 - [26] - Quote Knitram Relik wrote: Look at the map. If Uedama, Niarja, or whatever is as red as Jita for kills in the last hour maybe avoid it. And get a permit. What's the worst that could happen? My whole corp is CODE. compliant and I've taken 10bil+ thru hot pipes with no problems. Just say hi to the agents in system and fly compliant. And before you reply "Grrr CODE.", have you actually tried flying compliant? I'm not code compliant and I've taken hundreds of billions through the pipe. Your little permit does nothing but feed egos. It's impossible to be compliant if they decide that they don't want you to be compliant. Quit being a tool. NEONOVUS wrote: I got one to add here, don't think an ecm burstion is too low a price to pay for saving yourself. Sure, the character is going to need a high sec status to survive the concording from bursting on the bumpers and whit knights, but its much better than loosing your billions freighter. Also really hilarious to do to the gank squad. Do it just as they land on grid and are locking, do it too early and the gank squad won't be engaged and concorded themselves. Do loot the wrecks of the ganker, it will easily pay for the burstion. ECM bursts are weaksauce in general. I doubt there would be any real effect on the gankers as they already use ECCM and related skills.
King Aires Chicks on Speed Mordus Angels 185	Posted - 2016.03.22 00:43:18 - [27] - Quote NEONOVUS wrote: Caligula Nalelmir wrote: ashley Eoner wrote: Caligula Nalelmir wrote: As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's Isk is almost entirely irrelevant outside of freighters with +5b in items. They gank empty freighters when they cannot find the big loot pinatas. The freighter you fly is pretty irrelevant. AN obby dies almost as fast as a charon when 38 catas are shooting it. Skills help very little but won't stop a gank if they start bumping you. Fitting all lows with bulkheads means nothing when 38 catas are shooting you. Real advice would be something like. Use an alt with webs Use an alt to scout the Niarja pipeline and when the gankers are GCC hop over to the frieghter and quickly move through. You've got like 15 minutes before the gankers can strike again. If you don't need the space of a freighter for your cargo then use a ship with MWD/cloak. Hell even a bowhead fitted for align with a mwd can be an utter nightmare to bump. Those are great ideas. Slows down the process very much though, but those ideas are so valid. I got one to add here, don't think an ecm burstion is too low a price to pay for saving yourself. Sure, the character is going to need a high sec status to survive the concording from bursting on the bumpers and whit knights, but its much better than loosing your billions freighter. Also really hilarious to do to the gank squad. Do it just as they land on grid and are locking, do it too early and the gank squad won't be engaged and concorded themselves. Do loot the wrecks of the ganker, it will easily pay for the burstion. Good to know you have absolutely no idea how ecm bursts work or what you are talking about.
Jacques d'Orleans 2711	Posted - 2016.03.22 01:00:18 - [28] - Quote Caligula Nalelmir wrote: As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's Tbh, i flew four times today thru Niarja in a 30 jump tour and all i saw was autopiloting Obelisks, Charons, even a Hulk and so on. All of you autopiloting lazy prats deserve the ganks delivered to you! Simple as that! God, i need a bigger tear collector unit aka bucket! Ah, and while we're at it, a Permit for 10M isk, would tank your Obby more than the above shytefit. Now continue whining! The beginning of the End Skill injectors? Attempting to give a shyte: 0.5%
Terranid Meester Tactical Assault and Recon Unit 324	Posted - 2016.03.22 02:59:03 - [29] - Quote How to avoid the majority of gankers? Don't go to Jita.
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 13814	Posted - 2016.03.22 03:01:54 - [30] - Quote NEONOVUS wrote: What happened to make Hisec ganking a big thing again? Last time I was here it was around a bil in cargo got you pegged. What happened is that CCP buffed freighters lol. Just like how buffing mining ships lead to more mining ship ganks, and anchor rigs lead to more constant bumping. See, a certain segment of the community celebrates anytime they perceive something is going to 'nerf gankers'. They are mentally incapable of understanding who gankers are (they tend to be the types that, rather than be discouraged by nerfs, they get ticked off and emboldened by them) so they keep thinking "one more nerf" is going to do the trick. Folks like that will never get hip to one fact: the 'answer' to gankers isn't 'nerfs', it's awareness, gameplay knowledge and mental toughness. Have those 3 things (and teach them to new players) and gankers basically don't even exist for you.
Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate 1066	Posted - 2016.03.22 03:04:54 - [31] - Quote Caligula Nalelmir wrote: As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's Just autopilot like I do. Typhoon Fleet Issue SOE skin for the win.
Sobaan Tali Caldari Quick Reaction Force 862	Posted - 2016.03.22 03:23:45 - [32] - Quote Aaron Honk wrote: Like this guy https://zkillboard.com/kill/52728153/ To be entirely fair, that right there was pretty much a guarantee to happen. Same thing happened when CCP lifted the cargo bay restrictions on PLEX way back in the day. Learn well, my fellow pod pilots; you see before you the absolutely best example thus far of one of the worst mistakes you can make. There's always one. DON'T...BE...THAT...ONE! "Tomahawks?" "----in' A, right?" "Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each." "----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Aaron Honk Distributed Denial of Service 51	Posted - 2016.03.22 03:54:08 - [33] - Quote Terranid Meester wrote: How to avoid the majority of gankers? Don't go to Jita. Or anywhere else in high sec, stay in null
Pix Severus Empty You 3657	Posted - 2016.03.22 03:56:55 - [34] - Quote Highsec is the most dangerous space in EVE, are you man enough to risk going there? -ì-ä-à -£-à+¦-äGêâ-Ç
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 17516	Posted - 2016.03.22 05:23:15 - [35] - Quote Just one more nerf.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 2309	Posted - 2016.03.22 05:57:21 - [36] - Quote Caligula Nalelmir wrote: Black Pedro wrote: Caligula Nalelmir wrote: As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's I don't know where people get this stuff. Freighter kills in March are on pace to be well below last month as well as below the six month average. Do we really need this alarmist GD post? I guess a PSA can't hurt: Freighter pilots you should tank your ships! You should also pay attention, scout your route, fly with an escort, not carry multiple billions in cargo and get yourselves a permit. Even all of this may not save you, so remember the Golden Rules of Eve and never fly something you cannot afford to lose. Stay strong brave freighter pilots. Your strength in the face of adversity is a real inspiration to gamers everywhere. o7 freight kills are double from Oct 2015 Freighter "kills" are indeed double October, but that is not the relevant category. That is people managed to get on a killmail with a freighter (which, since freighters don't have guns means people are hopping between ships). It is freighter losses which you are whining about and they are down as I said. We might reach October's 396 freighter kills by the end of the month, but certainly not the recent numbers from January or February unless someone decides to burn somewhere really hard next weekend. And it is certainly not double anything recent as you claim. It does seem to me that the last weeks have brought a return of 10B+ freighter kills though which had dried up. Perhaps the coming expansion is inducing hauling amateurs to move high value stuff around in preparation. I should do a more careful study. Why Do They Gank?
Mephiztopheleze Republic University Minmatar Republic 609	Posted - 2016.03.22 06:19:11 - [37] - Quote Aaron Honk wrote: Like this guy https://zkillboard.com/kill/52728153/ and this guy...... https://zkillboard.com/kill/52674738/ Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
ZAKURELL0 LINDA I'm Fine and You Goonswarm Federation 68	Posted - 2016.03.22 06:54:05 - [38] - Quote Nothing_will_save_you_from_HS_protector_in_purging_illegal_delivery_without_valid_permit RIP Iron Lady
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 81	Posted - 2016.03.22 06:59:39 - [39] - Quote Nerf idiot freighter pilots.
Shayla Etherodyne United Nations Industrial Holdings 1	Posted - 2016.03.22 07:31:43 - [40] - Quote NEONOVUS wrote: What happened to make Hisec ganking a big thing again? Last time I was here it was around a bil in cargo got you pegged. Boredom Desire to show that the change in hull resists hasn't changed anything Spring 99 cents for 10 days reactivation offer The usual stuff.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 2395	Posted - 2016.03.22 07:36:09 - [41] - Quote Impossible!! We need another nerf!! This time it will work, I feel it!! the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Shayla Etherodyne United Nations Industrial Holdings 1	Posted - 2016.03.22 07:38:33 - [42] - Quote ashley Eoner wrote: Isk is almost entirely irrelevant outside of freighters with +5b in items. They gank empty freighters when they cannot find the big loot pinatas. People kill whatever they can. I had one of the funniest killmails the other day. A alt entered a low sec system and immediately lost his ship. 2 Loki and another 8 assorted pirates to kill a empty Velator (I had dropped the 1 unit of tritanium in another system, so even that wasn't unavailable). The pod escaped. The wight of the ammunition they used was more than my shop wight
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 17555	Posted - 2016.03.22 08:21:29 - [43] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Caligula Nalelmir wrote: As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's I don't know where people get this stuff. Freighter kills in March are on pace to be well below last month as well as below the six month average. Do we really need this alarmist GD post? I guess a PSA can't hurt: Freighter pilots you should tank your ships! You should also pay attention, scout your route, fly with an escort, not carry multiple billions in cargo and get yourselves a permit. Even all of this may not save you, so remember the Golden Rules of Eve and never fly something you cannot afford to lose. Stay strong brave freighter pilots. Your strength in the face of adversity is a real inspiration to gamers everywhere. o7 Your puny facts mean nothing in the face of THE TRUTH. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 17555	Posted - 2016.03.22 08:22:52 - [44] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Impossible!! We need another nerf!! This time it will work, I feel it!! But can't you just see how very, very unfair it is that a mere 38 players attacking an unescorted hauler will always win? "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Nat Silverguard Aideron Robotics 388	Posted - 2016.03.22 08:32:03 - [45] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: Impossible!! We need another nerf!! This time it will work, I feel it!! But can't you just see how very, very unfair it is that a mere 38 players attacking an unescorted hauler will always win? yes, i agree. the whiniest, loudest, and most entitled single carebear should defeat the coordinated and playing-by-the-rules 38 players/gankers, gg. o7 Just Add Water
Akrasjel Lanate Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate 1889	Posted - 2016.03.22 08:35:02 - [46] - Quote Don't fly in US TZ that should decrease chance of being ganked by alot for now Akrasjel Lanate Founder and CEO of Naquatech Conglomerate Executor of Naquatech Syndicate Citizen of Solitude
March rabbit Federal Defense Union 1711	Posted - 2016.03.22 09:04:18 - [47] - Quote Knitram Relik wrote: Look at the map. If Uedama, Niarja, or whatever is as red as Jita for kills in the last hour maybe avoid it. And get a permit. What's the worst that could happen? My whole corp is CODE. compliant and I've taken 10bil+ thru hot pipes with no problems. Just say hi to the agents in system and fly compliant. And before you reply "Grrr CODE.", have you actually tried flying compliant? LoL... people playing game PAYING somebody to not hurt them The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Lulu Lunette ThinkTank Phoenix TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 325	Posted - 2016.03.22 12:19:51 - [48] - Quote I wanna fly a Freighter for some reason but read enough about them to know better lol.. So pass the risk onto someone else! What I do is use public courier contracts. Only risk is a typo so don't do that. I pay 2% of whatever the collateral is for a reward and letting anyone get the contract instead of private to Red Frog is much faster too. (at least in my experience) @lunettelulu7
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2714	Posted - 2016.03.22 13:04:51 - [49] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Impossible!! We need another nerf!! This time it will work, I feel it!! Technically, one more nerf could stop all of it from happening. It's not a good idea but it could happen.
Salt Foambreaker Greedy Pirates 4	Posted - 2016.03.22 15:05:40 - [50] - Quote Caligula Nalelmir wrote: As you may have noticed, suicide ganks have increased dramatically in the notorious .5's with little or no cargo loaded. how to avoid: Do not carry more than 500M isk each trip. Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. skill hull upgrades,mechanics, Shield Management all to 5. fit all lows with bulkheads 2's ^ "CODE Bear" Alt look at me look at me look at me Hi-Sec PvP snicker
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 7358	Posted - 2016.03.22 16:16:22 - [51] - Quote Must be spring break. I remember what it was like being a student. The professors actually made us work hard for grades. Nice hours though. I scheduled my classes such that I had three day weekends. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Tigh Edatosmi Bound And Determined 6	Posted - 2016.03.22 16:25:24 - [52] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Just one more nerf. Shouldn't there be a -« after that comment?
Agondray Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces 323	Posted - 2016.03.22 17:09:21 - [53] - Quote NEONOVUS wrote: What happened to make Hisec ganking a big thing again? Last time I was here it was around a bil in cargo got you pegged. I watch the gankers all the time, you don't even have to have anything in your cargo. just flying the ship warrants you getting ganked since industry is the scum of the galaxy to them. "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Joan Miles Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 41	Posted - 2016.03.22 17:17:03 - [54] - Quote Agondray wrote: I watch the gankers all the time, you don't even have to have anything in your cargo. just flying the ship warrants you getting ganked since industry is the scum of the galaxy to them. To be more precise, its not all industry players that are the scum of the galaxy to them.(and therefore getting ganked) Just their empire competition. Big or small. Stuff getting blown in HS however is still fun. It's too quiet anyways.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 26057	Posted - 2016.03.22 18:20:45 - [55] - Quote Relevant. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 17558	Posted - 2016.03.22 19:02:52 - [56] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: Impossible!! We need another nerf!! This time it will work, I feel it!! Technically, one more nerf could stop all of it from happening. It's not a good idea but it could happen. While you are correct, I feel that removing freighters from the game could have unwelcome secondary consequences. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Sustrai Aditua Intandofisa 25	Posted - 2016.03.23 02:08:47 - [57] - Quote Why would "they" nerf high sec ganking into oblivion if this is the best play soccer moms-with-VISA's kids can come up with? Just don't provide them with targets. Let that end of the game go into disuse. Wait them out. I'm betting the tiny-attention span crowd will find another game to one-day-wonder-boy-gank in. 'T is the nature of the mental configuration of such like people.
GetSirrus Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 106	Posted - 2016.03.23 02:35:22 - [58] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: Impossible!! We need another nerf!! This time it will work, I feel it!! Technically, one more nerf could stop all of it from happening. It's not a good idea but it could happen. While you are correct, I feel that removing freighters from the game could have unwelcome secondary consequences. Why not, kick freighters out of hi-sec inline with other capital class ships - why should industrials be specially treated little snowflakes? The game didn't die then.
Bruce Kemp Rancer Customs Control Group 139	Posted - 2016.03.23 06:44:21 - [59] - Quote (puts on tin foil hat) How come red frog/black frog ganks are rare? Are they secretly behind all the freighter ganks to boost there business.... -áIf people played EVE as much as they posted rubbish on these forums, they might enjoy the game.
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 86	Posted - 2016.03.23 07:01:24 - [60] - Quote Bruce Kemp wrote: (puts on tin foil hat) How come red frog/black frog ganks are rare? Are they secretly behind all the freighter ganks to boost there business.... Because they aren't idiots mostly.
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 17520	Posted - 2016.03.23 10:00:03 - [61] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Bruce Kemp wrote: (puts on tin foil hat) How come red frog/black frog ganks are rare? Are they secretly behind all the freighter ganks to boost there business.... Because they aren't idiots mostly. Shh, we are not allowed to point out they have a 99.9% safety record over 2 million gate jumps.
Ni Neith Hedion University Amarr Empire 26	Posted - 2016.03.23 10:08:08 - [62] - Quote Aaron Honk wrote: Terranid Meester wrote: How to avoid the majority of gankers? Don't go to Jita. Or anywhere else in high sec, stay in null Wormhole space is actually the safest place to be.
Anke Eyrou Hades Sisters 65	Posted - 2016.03.23 13:07:08 - [63] - Quote Ni Neith wrote: Aaron Honk wrote: Terranid Meester wrote: How to avoid the majority of gankers? Don't go to Jita. Or anywhere else in high sec, stay in null Wormhole space is actually the safest place to be. Only if you're blue I expect to get this post deleted or locked. So much for freedom of expression.
Ms Biatchy IHOP Holdings 3	Posted - 2016.03.23 13:08:26 - [64] - Quote Anke Eyrou wrote: Ni Neith wrote: Aaron Honk wrote: Terranid Meester wrote: How to avoid the majority of gankers? Don't go to Jita. Or anywhere else in high sec, stay in null Wormhole space is actually the safest place to be. Only if you're blue To HK.
Expendable Unit Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 2	Posted - 2016.03.23 13:48:25 - [65] - Quote [quote=Caligula Nalelmir Preferably fly Obby as it has the most tank. [/quote] Ok then, fly Obelisk. Problem solved. (LOL at my quote... I always sucked at forums)
Henry Plantgenet Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 50	Posted - 2016.03.24 13:17:54 - [66] - Quote How to avoid getting ganked in a freighter: Don't fly a freighter. How to significantly reduce the risk of receiving suprise buttsex with your freighter; a) avoid frequently bumped areas b) webbing alt c) fly with you buddy who is also in a freighter but more likely to get ganked (more expensive cargo, less tank, combination)
Elyia Suze Nagala Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 90	Posted - 2016.03.25 00:19:35 - [67] - Quote Or just wait for a WH door...
Anthar Thebess 1476	Posted - 2016.03.25 07:26:11 - [68] - Quote CCP buffed freighter EHP so small time gankers needed to join big groups to still have fun. Big groups have more people, so can gank more using cheaper ships. I still wonder if this is not the thing CCP actually wanted. Stop discrimination, help in a fight against terrorists Show your support to The Cause!
Fiddly Pop The Conference Elite CODE. 19	Posted - 2016.03.25 15:09:54 - [69] - Quote I heard, but don't know if it is true,for each plex you have in your cargo hold you get a 3% buff to ehp. get enough of them in there and they won't be able to gank you.
Salt Foambreaker Greedy Pirates 12	Posted - 2016.03.25 16:31:41 - [70] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: CCP buffed freighter EHP so small time gankers needed to join big groups to still have fun. Big groups have more people, so can gank more using cheaper ships. I still wonder if this is not the thing CCP actually wanted. Actually, about half the group in question is a multi box/plex.
Sasha Cohenberg Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling CODE. 44	Posted - 2016.03.25 17:28:08 - [71] - Quote Hey if anyone is interested, code is looking for some freighter pilots to do alliance logistics.
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet The Conference Elite CODE. 21	Posted - 2016.03.25 18:49:48 - [72] - Quote Sasha Cohenberg wrote: Hey if anyone is interested, code is looking for some freighter pilots to do alliance logistics. Yes. Freighter pilots can mail me in-game if they are interested in getting involved with alliance logistics. Having a mining permit is good. Being blue to us is better.
Capt Starfox Amok. Goonswarm Federation 926	Posted - 2016.03.27 01:49:19 - [73] - Quote Freighters dying in highsec? No way. *Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet*
Firnen Bakru Exploration Enterprises 0	Posted - 2016.03.27 11:07:25 - [74] - Quote It's amazingly easy - fly with tank - use a webber I cargo scan easily up to 1000 freighters per day on my alts and when we are lucky we have one guy that is actually worth it. You cant patch stupidity. 20b freighter autopiloting not even with tank fitted? C'mon guys
Kitsune Rei Tastes Like Purple 20	Posted - 2016.03.27 11:17:26 - [75] - Quote Firnen Bakru wrote: It's amazingly easy - fly with tank - use a webber I cargo scan easily up to 1000 freighters per day on my alts and when we are lucky we have one guy that is actually worth it. You cant patch stupidity. 20b freighter autopiloting not even with tank fitted? C'mon guys What baffles me is why someone thinks that's okay. You're hauling that much and not taking some simple precautions? You deserve to get exploded.
hipotecadoydesgraciado Casual Endeavors 2	Posted - 2016.03.27 11:59:22 - [76] - Quote 1-¦Use Convoys...like in WW2 2-¦Join"antiganking channel for NEWS..
Zula Terra The Conference Elite CODE. 1	Posted - 2016.03.28 01:11:40 - [77] - Quote The freighter ganks have doubled as a response to freighters getting such a significant ehp buff. This is what they call retaliation. Deal with it, you asked for buffs and got them, now deal with the consequences. https://youtu.be/HOe8-iFpDsI The Elite send their regards.
Fiddly Pop The Conference Elite CODE. 25	Posted - 2016.03.28 13:17:59 - [78] - Quote Zula Terra wrote: ... This is what they call retaliation. .... I don't see it as retaliation, I see it as staying compliant with Newton's third law Quote: When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction on the first body. CODE. and physics Always wins, always!
Zula Terra The Conference Elite CODE. 7	Posted - 2016.03.28 21:24:23 - [79] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: NEONOVUS wrote: What happened to make Hisec ganking a big thing again? Last time I was here it was around a bil in cargo got you pegged. What happened is that CCP buffed freighters lol. Just like how buffing mining ships lead to more mining ship ganks, and anchor rigs lead to more constant bumping. See, a certain segment of the community celebrates anytime they perceive something is going to 'nerf gankers'. They are mentally incapable of understanding who gankers are (they tend to be the types that, rather than be discouraged by nerfs, they get ticked off and emboldened by them) so they keep thinking "one more nerf" is going to do the trick. Folks like that will never get hip to one fact: the 'answer' to gankers isn't 'nerfs', it's awareness, gameplay knowledge and mental toughness. Have those 3 things (and teach them to new players) and gankers basically don't even exist for you. Quote: they tend to be the types that, rather than be discouraged by nerfs, they get ticked off and emboldened by them Confirming that nerfs just **** me off and I go harder.
Sabriz Adoudel Move along there is nothing here 5738	Posted - 2016.03.29 03:19:21 - [80] - Quote NEONOVUS wrote: What happened to make Hisec ganking a big thing again? Last time I was here it was around a bil in cargo got you pegged. What happened was CCP made changes that made ganking harder (most significantly the insurance changes), which meant gankers got much more organised than they used to be. Ganking solo isn't much fun, so people did it for a little while then moved on. Ganking in big fleets, however, is hilariously fun and so people keep doing it longer as a result. Freighter pilots need to learn that freighters are not ships suitable for solo play. I don't undock my PVP fit Kronos when solo unless I am able to escalate. And between neuts, guns, cap injectors and a massive active tank, it can protect itself far better than a freighter can. Until the freighter pilots learn this, CODE. will continue to teach them expensive lessons. I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".

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