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Soldarius
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.19 05:33:00 -
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So, he presses one button and 10 clients respond? Or does each client require separate inputs? Because if its one press resulting in 10 actions, that would be a form of automation, even if it is only input duplication. It's the software sending the inputs to the client, not the player.
I'm not saying he's botting. I don't think what he is doing qualifies as that. There are no decisions being made by any software without user input. And I would say that it is outside the perview of CCP to decide how he uses his personal property, so long as he isn't altering the client or some other violation of the EULA.
But damn. 15 monitors? wtf...
"How do you kill that which has no life?" |

Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
29
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Posted - 2011.12.19 05:43:00 -
[122] - Quote
Reminds me of Ends Journey.
Kinda miss that guy. He was good with a guitar. |

DelBoy Trades
Enslave. GIANTSBANE.
88
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Posted - 2011.12.19 06:26:00 -
[123] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:If you suspect someone violating our TOS, please file a petition. Please do the same if you wonder if your gameplay is legit and within our rules, best you do that before you act.
You just won the cop out award. Would it not be better to address the question rather than pawn it off onto some clueless GM? Damn nature, you scary! |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
137
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Posted - 2011.12.19 07:44:00 -
[124] - Quote
http://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/home
Not sure if someone post it.. but thats the case... i guess.. |

Koen L
Galactic Defence Consortium United Pod Service
6
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Posted - 2011.12.19 09:35:00 -
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This guy is awsome. And as long as he is not doing something against the rules, i have no problems with it.
Of course its a bit unfair against a normal player, but who cares ? If you have a rich Grandma and buy plexes and dont care about loosing something ingame but buying Stuff, buying merc corps to do your job and building up an empire with just buying people who do jobs for you, its sort of unfair, too. But its not against the rules.
I think you can easily beat him somehow, his setup has many weaknesses and he might be safer in empire. Study him, go in with a fleet with real players and you probably be able to make serious damage to him because he is still one guy so he will not be able to do more complex stuff with his fleet.
When i watched his setup, imho i think i can do this much cheaper. On my single computer i can easily run 5 accounts the same time. Also i am using eve windowed mode helper, so i can use 5 or more accounts easily with 2 monitor.
And more then 5 accounts is just expensive because i am not able to pay for them, but i dont have a rich grandma. Having more then 15 toons imho is inefficient. Still i want play with real life players and i personally i am not a solo player, i like eve because i like to talk with others and play together. But this is my decision.
So thumbs up for this cool setup. I like it. I want to see more, i bookmarked his homepage. Please provide some videos about what you are doing ! GÖ½ When your ship gets blown to bits GÖ¬ GÖ½ And you lose your Faction fits GÖ¬ \Gÿ+/ Don't worry GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ Be Happy \Gÿ+/ |

Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor
41
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Posted - 2011.12.19 09:40:00 -
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mkint wrote:Riley Moore wrote:mkint wrote:He's a botter. Report him. He uses software to automate the controls of 40 accounts. Not automate, copy. BIG difference. Every action that happens still required a keypress. No... only 1 action on 1 one of his accounts requires a keypress. The rest are bots programmed to AUTOMATICALLY mimic the lead.
Not sure if you understand... A bot is a program that runs everything by it self... A binding or copy just makes the exact same keystroke on another screen.
I see no problem here. "Have you had your morning coffee?" -> the Coffee Lovers Brewing Club is recruiting! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=363976#post363976 |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
137
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Posted - 2011.12.19 09:48:00 -
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mkint wrote:He's a botter. Report him. He uses software to automate the controls of 40 accounts.
So report all null FCs too .. |

Hark Hanam
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2011.12.19 13:09:00 -
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This guy is not cheating
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
493
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Posted - 2011.12.19 13:25:00 -
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Morganta wrote:Freezehunter wrote:In any other game, that is bannable.
Why it's allowed in Eve, I do not know... how so? can't think of too many companies that would pass on 25 accounts because one person is playing them at one time no difference between that and a 25 man lan party hitting the server its done with a hardware solution and does not modify game clients or their data packets or assets the problem for people like you, is that its totally above board, legal and a very sound strategy that benefits the player and the game company alike, and it makes you mad that you can't do it. sad truth for your lot is that anyone can do this, all you need to do is dedicate the resources and cash to make it happen
Well actually reading you makes me think that from now on the only ones that matter will be multi boxing players, all other can go to high sec mine ice and give Goons easy km's...
While I think this is some sort of nice achievement on it self it's the downside of it you have to look at, a single guy can ruin a lot of stuff in game for many many players, this is why it's bad. He remembers me some guys using 10 chamans in pvp insta killing several groups of players no matter how skilled you were.
All I'm saying is that this is not different from the guy using some combo pack of aimbot, chams and life hacks to play fps games. Well we can always talk about "legal" or not "legal", it's a matter of game rules at the beginning and Eve gaming rules we already know what is about. |

Jeanne DeFy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.19 13:43:00 -
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Epic ****, I always loved people who do this, it is simply epic. I wish I could do it myself but I'm stuck to running 3-4 chars on single PC :(
And dont see any reason why Multiboxing should be banned, idiots who think its botting should just gtfo from this thread.
And people who say it isnt allowed in any other MMO dont know jack ****, there isnt a single MMO out there that bans multiboxing, not WoW, not any other. |

Alara IonStorm
653
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Posted - 2011.12.19 13:44:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote: Well actually reading you makes me think that from now on the only ones that matter will be multi boxing players, all other can go to high sec mine ice and give Goons easy km's...
While I think this is some sort of nice achievement on it self it's the downside of it you have to look at, a single guy can ruin a lot of stuff in game for many many players, this is why it's bad. He remembers me some guys using 10 chamans in pvp insta killing several groups of players no matter how skilled you were.
All I'm saying is that this is not different from the guy using some combo pack of aimbot, chams and life hacks to play fps games. Well we can always talk about "legal" or not "legal", it's a matter of game rules at the beginning and Eve gaming rules we already know what is about.
If you think this is unfair then change starts with you.
Biomass your alts.
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Skydell
Space Mermaids
16
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Posted - 2011.12.19 13:46:00 -
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Nobody likes a tattle tale |

Mutnin
Mutineers
0
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Posted - 2011.12.19 14:04:00 -
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Jake Peters wrote:I'm not sure if someone posted this link already but here is his multibox setup...looks expensive!! 
I don't believe he uses the taped together mouse and keyboards. Sure "maybe" that would work if you used "1" client per computer.
It's simple.. how many mouse pointers does your OS show on screen at once.. Mine only has 1. How does he duplicate mouse pointers to be controlled by these mysterious 7 mice & keyboards that ironically aren't in his pictures. Virtual desktops? Yea right they don't run smooth enough for that as they will always get lag between them.
I've always thought and I still do, that he is using soft ware to duplicate the key strokes and the pictures he showed in the past were maybe some failed attempt or a mock up used to get unbanned. I multi box quite a bit using 1 PC and "actually" controlling each client myself. Even doing this each client will get little hick-ups here and there that would absolutely cripple some taped together mouse set up and keyboards.
I personally will never believe this guy multi boxes in any way other than software supported, until I see video of him actually doing it.
btw I see only 1 mouse and keyboard controlling all his systems on his website..  |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
81
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Posted - 2011.12.19 14:10:00 -
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"GM approved software key and mouse broadcasting"
From his website. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

Kahz Niverrah
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming Moar Tears
85
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Posted - 2011.12.19 14:35:00 -
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This guy is one of our war targets right now and we took a closer look at how his fleet operates. I know he claims there is no automation involved, but after watching him I find that hard to believe. Every time he undocks, jumps a gate, etc, all of his logis start up a perfect cap chain the moment they land on grid. This happens even if he is only warping to the next gate. I very much doubt he's taking the time to start up his cap chain with 6 bassies every time he warps to an out gate, nor would he be able to do it so quickly since each bassie is only cap chaining to 2 other bassies (not something easily "broadcast").
That being said, his fleet was very easy to kill since it's so predictable. I don't always post on the forums, but when I do, I post with my main. |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
138
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Posted - 2011.12.19 14:41:00 -
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Kahz Niverrah wrote:This guy is one of our war targets right now and we took a closer look at how his fleet operates. I know he claims there is no automation involved, but after watching him I find that hard to believe. Every time he undocks, jumps a gate, etc, all of his logis start up a perfect cap chain the moment they land on grid. This happens even if he is only warping to the next gate. I very much doubt he's taking the time to start up his cap chain with 6 bassies every time he warps to an out gate, nor would he be able to do it so quickly since each bassie is only cap chaining to 2 other bassies (not something easily "broadcast").
That being said, his fleet was very easy to kill since it's so predictable.
gratz you were able to gank an one man fleet....
but behavior you described is indeed suspicious . |

Kahz Niverrah
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming Moar Tears
85
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Posted - 2011.12.19 14:43:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:gratz you were able to gank an one man fleet.... Like I said... it wasn't hard. There is a lot of incoming damage from the apocs, and the repping power of 6 bassies with links is substantial, but both of those things are easily countered if you plan accordingly. I don't always post on the forums, but when I do, I post with my main. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
567
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:04:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:Jake Peters wrote:I'm not sure if someone posted this link already but here is his multibox setup...looks expensive!!  I don't believe he uses the taped together mouse and keyboards. Sure "maybe" that would work if you used "1" client per computer. It's simple.. how many mouse pointers does your OS show on screen at once.. Mine only has 1. How does he duplicate mouse pointers to be controlled by these mysterious 7 mice & keyboards that ironically aren't in his pictures. Virtual desktops? Yea right they don't run smooth enough for that as they will always get lag between them. I've always thought and I still do, that he is using soft ware to duplicate the key strokes and the pictures he showed in the past were maybe some failed attempt or a mock up used to get unbanned. I multi box quite a bit using 1 PC and "actually" controlling each client myself. Even doing this each client will get little hick-ups here and there that would absolutely cripple some taped together mouse set up and keyboards. I personally will never believe this guy multi boxes in any way other than software supported, until I see video of him actually doing it. btw I see only 1 mouse and keyboard controlling all his systems on his website.. 
old setup vs new setup
read better
the taped together stuff was before he got the kbs/mse replicator now an external box (or a dedicated cpu) routes and splits all the input from a single kbd/mse
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

FastJack316
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2011.12.19 17:01:00 -
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Kahz Niverrah wrote: I very much doubt he's taking the time to start up his cap chain with 6 bassies every time he warps to an out gate, nor would he be able to do it so quickly since each bassie is only cap chaining to 2 other bassies (not something easily "broadcast").
If each basilisk has their cap chain targets as the first two on their watchlist it would be as simple as a couple of mouse clicks to set up the whole chain. |

Kahz Niverrah
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming Moar Tears
85
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Posted - 2011.12.19 17:04:00 -
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FastJack316 wrote:If each basilisk has their cap chain targets as the first two on their watchlist it would be as simple as a couple of mouse clicks to set up the whole chain. Yeah, you're right. I had the same thought after I made my second post. I don't always post on the forums, but when I do, I post with my main. |

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
40
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Posted - 2011.12.19 17:08:00 -
[141] - Quote
Fascinating, I wonder how he keeps all those accounts synced... |

Barkaial Starfinder
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
0
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Posted - 2011.12.21 11:36:00 -
[142] - Quote
This discussion just had me thinking about this terrible thought.
What if some Alliance creates a network of MineControl to be used by their members, making like one hundred members the puppets of mining lasers.
Essentially, they would all be controlled by some human that sends out signal for puppeteering. All the members have to do is place their ships in position to be enslaved.
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Cpt Greagor
Liquid Relief
59
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Posted - 2011.12.21 12:02:00 -
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mkint wrote: tolololololol
The ammount of trolling you have done in this thread impresses me. |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
147
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Posted - 2011.12.21 12:04:00 -
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Barkaial Starfinder wrote:This discussion just had me thinking about this terrible thought. What if some Alliance creates a network of MineControl to be used by their members, making like one hundred members the puppets of mining lasers. Essentially, they would all be controlled by some human that sends out signal for puppeteering. All the members have to do is place their ships in position to be enslaved. 
Welcome to capitalism  |

TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
2
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Posted - 2011.12.21 13:56:00 -
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mkint wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:mkint wrote:Riley Moore wrote:mkint wrote:He's a botter. Report him. He uses software to automate the controls of 40 accounts. Not automate, copy. BIG difference. Every action that happens still required a keypress. No... only 1 action on 1 one of his accounts requires a keypress. The rest are bots programmed to AUTOMATICALLY mimic the lead. So you're telling me that there are people who play EVE who aren't tech savvy enough to understand the basic principle of broadcasting? Go back to WoW, son. I've never multiboxed through automation, no. I'm not a botter. So I don't know exactly the process of which software to use, the model numbers on the hardware to use and all that jazz. What I do know is that this famous CCP endorsed botter uses 1 keyboard and mouse (and yes, I've seen the pics of his setup) to automate gameplay on multiple accounts by reproducing movements on one account. The technical side is irrelevant. He's playing 1 account and botting dozens of others.
Google search moots your point
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Panhead4411
Adventures with Bill
10
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Posted - 2011.12.24 14:08:00 -
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To whomever said no company would turn down 25 paying accounts...
My guess is the only paying he does is to his electric company...or parents electric company, since he likely plex's every single account. So, CCP is making $0 off him. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
615
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Posted - 2011.12.24 14:11:00 -
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Panhead4411 wrote:My guess.
remember that
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

Kahz Niverrah
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming Moar Tears
90
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Posted - 2011.12.24 14:45:00 -
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Panhead4411 wrote:since he likely plex's every single account. So, CCP is making $0 off him. 
Also, minerals you mine yourself are free. I don't always post on the forums, but when I do, I post with my main. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
3326
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Posted - 2011.12.24 15:15:00 -
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Panhead4411 wrote:My guess is the only paying he does is to his electric company...or parents electric company, since he likely plex's every single account. So, CCP is making $0 off him. This weeks Darwin award winning post.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Shiganaru
Ignis Aeternus Imperium
0
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Posted - 2011.12.24 17:31:00 -
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So, this is why PLEXs went through the roof.
By the way, even if he PLEXs the accounts, CCP still received that $15 from someone for the PLEX. |
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