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Rain6639
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3861
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Posted - 2016.04.12 16:25:01 -
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Personally I'd be behind gudfighting in this if CCP wasn't plastering propaganda into the client or as official news. |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
226
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Posted - 2016.04.12 16:26:19 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Good attitude. Blapping each others ships and invading each other's personal space is totally what the game is about, but once it starts getting to the point people are screaming and throwing insults at each other it's certainly time to calm down. Though there is one thing highsec pilots don't consider. If Imperium get kicked out of nullsec there's a good chance their activity in highsec will increase.
Hehehe - yup. I guess that's my way of saying "just wait till I get in a ship with guns grrrrr" I don't really care what happens to highsec (I recently upgraded to a jump freighter) but activity levels rising has crossed my mind, yes. If they reach a point where it's worth our time to wait for and blap all the -5s, that'd be hilarious! One might actually see whole corps developing around the idea of thwarting gankers without wasting their time.
Fun times ahead! |
Kamahl Daikun
Back To Basics. Tactical Supremacy
134
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Posted - 2016.04.12 16:40:39 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Kamahl Daikun wrote:Is this why you take it so seriously? Super serious me.
You're spending more time on this thread than I spend working at the office. Obviously serious. |
Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
976
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Posted - 2016.04.12 16:52:09 -
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Kamahl Daikun wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Kamahl Daikun wrote:Is this why you take it so seriously? Super serious me. You're spending more time on this thread than I spend working at the office. Obviously serious.
Posting about posting.
The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity.
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Mario Putzo
1637
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Posted - 2016.04.12 16:52:36 -
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Rain6639 wrote:Personally I'd be behind gudfighting in this if CCP wasn't plastering propaganda into the client or as official news.
It is official news though. Fact there is a war going on, it is popularly called World War Bee. If you don't like the name, tough ****, that is what the community has named it. Fact there was a big fight in M-0 that resulted in crushing CFC defeat, and loss of an ally CO2.
They host a link to TMC and EN24 so people can get coverage on both sides of the war...its not CCP's fault that TMC is not reporting any war related news.
In regards to propaganda, why doesn't CFC start submitting some stuff then? The one they selected from PL is very well done, regarfless who it vouches for it absolutely is worthy of a community spotlight just because how well it was put together. I mean CFC has not submitted anything in terms of propaganda, case in point....CCP had to make propaganda on CFC's behalf with the Scope Video about State of the Goonion.
Where is the scope video supporting MBC, CCP is obviously super biased right, spending production time making something CFC specific while leaving 50 something alliances without the same.
Absolutely pathetic that you and your organization complain about CCP covering this war in a bias manner when both sides are equally represented on the Updates page. I am embarrassed for you tbh.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7472
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Posted - 2016.04.12 16:53:20 -
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Kamahl Daikun wrote:You're spending more time on this thread than I spend working at the office. Obviously serious. You should really work more, since I've really not spent much time in here at all. You should see me when I've got free time to burn in a thread.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7472
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Posted - 2016.04.12 17:01:49 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:It is official news though. Fact there is a war going on, it is popularly called World War Bee. If you don't like the name, tough ****, that is what the community has named it. Fact there was a big fight in M-0 that resulted in crushing CFC defeat, and loss of an ally CO2.
They host a link to TMC and EN24 so people can get coverage on both sides of the war...its not CCP's fault that TMC is not reporting any war related news.
In regards to propaganda, why doesn't CFC start submitting some stuff then? The one they selected from PL is very well done, regarfless who it vouches for it absolutely is worthy of a community spotlight just because how well it was put together. I mean CFC has not submitted anything in terms of propaganda, case in point....CCP had to make propaganda on CFC's behalf with the Scope Video about State of the Goonion.
Where is the scope video supporting MBC, CCP is obviously super biased right, spending production time making something CFC specific while leaving 50 something alliances without the same.
Absolutely pathetic that you and your organization complain about CCP covering this war in a bias manner when both sides are equally represented on the Updates page. I am embarrassed for you tbh. I think a lot of the issue is that CCP recently have started this thing where they basically live on reddit, and if you post anything even remotely pro-goon on reddit you get downvoted into oblivion, leaving CCP only really able to pick through anti-goon material. I'm with the suggestion I saw in some thread somewhere on here that CCP should make a war subforum, and that should be full blown go crazy with propaganda and whatnot, so there's a single unified neutral location for players to post.
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Aaron Honk
Distributed Denial of Service
92
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Posted - 2016.04.12 17:04:30 -
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There was a pretty good one posted on /r/eve today
https://i.imgur.com/x46diRS.jpg |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Snuffed Out
4540
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Posted - 2016.04.12 17:06:58 -
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a war subforum'd be ok, as long as npc alts are required to address real people as 'sir', if only as a token admission of inferiority |
Rain6639
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3861
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Posted - 2016.04.12 17:10:17 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Rain6639 wrote:Personally I'd be behind gudfighting in this if CCP wasn't plastering propaganda into the client or as official news. It is official news though. Fact there is a war going on, it is popularly called World War Bee. If you don't like the name, tough ****, that is what the community has named it. Fact there was a big fight in M-0 that resulted in crushing CFC defeat, and loss of an ally CO2. They host a link to TMC and EN24 so people can get coverage on both sides of the war...its not CCP's fault that TMC is not reporting any war related news. In regards to propaganda, why doesn't CFC start submitting some stuff then? The one they selected from PL is very well done, regarfless who it vouches for it absolutely is worthy of a community spotlight just because how well it was put together. I mean CFC has not submitted anything in terms of propaganda, case in point....CCP had to make propaganda on CFC's behalf with the Scope Video about State of the Goonion. Where is the scope video supporting MBC, CCP is obviously super biased right, spending production time making something CFC specific while leaving 50 something alliances without the same. Absolutely pathetic that you and your organization complain about CCP covering this war in a bias manner when both sides are equally represented on the Updates page. I am embarrassed for you tbh. Nah bud CCP has been far from impartial in this. It leaves a bad taste in one's mouth. That whole janitor thing is out the window for some reason and I don't know why. |
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Rain6639
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3861
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Posted - 2016.04.12 17:24:01 -
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Your language right now doesn't matter to me, neither does whatever r/eve does. But when I see it on a "what's going on right now" page on an official EVE url, that makes me decide not to play ball. The fact is we know how to give good war, but if CCP can't be impartial then they get a bad war. That looks like T1 everything, frigates and interceptors maybe. But no capitals, no grudge matches. |
Mizhir
TURN LEFT
74730
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Posted - 2016.04.12 17:28:02 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Kamahl Daikun wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Kamahl Daikun wrote:Is this why you take it so seriously? Super serious me. You're spending more time on this thread than I spend working at the office. Obviously serious. Posting about posting.
Postingception
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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
449
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Posted - 2016.04.12 17:34:25 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:if you post anything even remotely pro-goon on reddit you get downvoted into oblivion
Like this pro-Karma Fleet one that has five times as many upvotes as most pro-MBC propaganda? https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4efhqo/join_the_imperium_and_get_to_fight_against_the/ Well done propaganda is appreciated on reddit, regardless of who it supports.
Now this is an example of a post getting downvoted into oblivion: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4eeozp/ccp_has_a_pr_problem/ That is salt wrapped up in tinfoil. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33492
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Posted - 2016.04.12 17:39:14 -
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Ironically the World War Bee name would become accurate if we congeal into a giant alliance.
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President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
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Kamahl Daikun
Back To Basics. Tactical Supremacy
135
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Posted - 2016.04.12 17:47:14 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote: Posting about posting.
Hi, I'll take fries with that. Make them fresh, please.
Lucas Kell wrote:Kamahl Daikun wrote:You're spending more time on this thread than I spend working at the office. Obviously serious. You should really work more, since I've really not spent much time in here at all. You should see me when I've got free time to burn in a thread.
I don't really want to. Your dedication to this subject is already unsettling. |
Mario Putzo
1639
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Posted - 2016.04.12 17:52:53 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:I think a lot of the issue is that CCP recently have started this thing where they basically live on reddit, and if you post anything even remotely pro-goon on reddit you get downvoted into oblivion, leaving CCP only really able to pick through anti-goon material. I'm with the suggestion I saw in some thread somewhere on here that CCP should make a war subforum, and that should be full blown go crazy with propaganda and whatnot, so there's a single unified neutral location for players to post.
First, why would they not communicate on reddit, it has 60K subs, and there are 500-1K+ active users (more frequency now due to war) at pretty much all times of the day it is a fairly popular and active sub...the devs would be stupid not to frequent a popular sub, on a popular website, for a game they made.
Secondly, I read reddit a lot, and I stay on "new" I can tell you 100% that pro-CFC stuff is just not being posted there are two reasons for this I think.
1) Prior to the kickstarter, CFC had decent reddit presence, and their submissions were tolerated in terms of "dankness" or "spiciness", sure there was Grr Goon threads etc, but were talking the EVE O quality "Goons are bad and I hate them". Whatever right. After the kickstarter is when things changed. Mittani and Sion were actively trying to get vote brigade thing going to boost their kickstarter awareness. This didn't sit well with Reddit, (because that is how Reddit works)
Mittani, viewed this as a direct personal attack, and developed this **** Reddit attitude, saying **** like Reddit isn't an EVE community. So of course, this only got your average redditor more encouraged to **** him off. Which they doubled down on with Sion quit from CSM, this is where the CCP ****** us because Reddit came from. Obviously at this point the "not a real community" of Reddit went pretty Anti-Bee, because it drove Mittani nuts, and made Sion look dumb....it didn't help when old goons like Endie, Blwarf and DJ posted anti goon threads either.
2) The war has not been remotely good for CFC, you can spin cycle it however you want to justify reasoning, But it has not been good. It is clearly obvious CFC is broken, the non-GSF members are all bleeding players/corps. Every region held a month ago is essentially lost at this point. So really what do Goons have to cheer for? They fly around in Inties and watch their space burn from low sec. That can hardly be fun, or entertaining for the majority. It is demoralizing, so what do they have to celebrate on reddit.
Prior to the "real" war CFC had good presence, when they brawled Tishu and Horde in Fade, Content Ring, CO2/Lawn/Bastion in the other theatre. There was lots of good posting over good fights, by both sides. But now, after the fastest collapse in EVE history...I just don't think Goons post anymore because they have nothing to cheer for.
In regards to a forum section, there is one. CAOD. No one posts there because
1) ISD's over moderate, and EVE Players in heat (of war) sperge pretty hard. 2) The forum eats posts all the time, it is frustrating as **** to type **** out hit post and watch it disappear.
So I don't see it getting used even if one was created, because frankly...these forums actually do suck.
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Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
979
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Posted - 2016.04.12 18:08:54 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:So really what do Goons have to cheer for?
A future more fun than these past two years.
The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7472
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Posted - 2016.04.12 18:11:24 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:First, why would they not communicate on reddit, it has 60K subs, and there are 500-1K+ active users (more frequency now due to war) at pretty much all times of the day it is a fairly popular and active sub...the devs would be stupid not to frequent a popular sub, on a popular website, for a game they made. Because it's insanely biased and filled with ex-bittervets.
Mario Putzo wrote:Secondly, I read reddit a lot, and I stay on "new" I can tell you 100% that pro-CFC stuff is just not being posted there are two reasons for this I think. ... The third reason you are missing is that if someone comments and it's pro-goon, it's generally downvoted. There's no point in players even attempting to join reddit from the Imperium side since someone will say "Hey we're going to crush goons" +50 karma, then a new goon replies "We'll fight you to the end" -20 karma, posts now invisible. I gave reddit a fair crack seeing that CCP decided it's a better place than their official forums to talk about game mechanics, but there's just no point unless you're only interested in following the popular opinion and have the sense of humour of a 12 year old.
Mario Putzo wrote:In regards to a forum section, there is one. CAOD. No one posts there because
1) ISD's over moderate, and EVE Players in heat (of war) sperge pretty hard. 2) The forum eats posts all the time, it is frustrating as **** to type **** out hit post and watch it disappear.
So I don't see it getting used even if one was created, because frankly...these forums actually do suck. 1. Don't sperg, behave like an adult and you won't get moderated. 2. As a regular forum warrior I know that's not as common as you make it sound, maybe once a day. Sure it could use some work, but thankfully it remembers posts anyway.
Also there's benefits: 1. It's unbiased (ish) 2. The worst of the attacks and unhealthy rage posts are filtered down 3. Posting is restricted to active, unbanned characters 4. Posts rise to the top based on activity positive or negative, rather than actively pushing popular opinions only 5. It's not reddit
CAOD isn't really the place though, they really need a war forum with rules set up to allow players to discuss active wars, share propaganda, etc.
Mario Putzo wrote:oh and you can swear on reddit too...*********** < makes conversation poop Golly gosh, you won me over. I can't possibly imagine posting without swearing.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33492
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Posted - 2016.04.12 18:16:37 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:So really what do Goons have to cheer for? A future more fun than these past two years. Try to talk to him as little as possible please
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President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
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Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
979
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Posted - 2016.04.12 18:17:45 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:So really what do Goons have to cheer for? A future more fun than these past two years. Try to talk to him as little as possible please
I outrank you. Back in your box before I'm forced to Widot you.
The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity.
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Akballah Kassan
Flames Of Chaos Mordus Angels
94
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Posted - 2016.04.12 18:21:39 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Akballah Kassan wrote:Amusingly MOA now hold more Sov then SMA, Initiative, TNT and Razor combined!
No worries I'm sure you guys can become the big boys of Cloud Ring eventually lol. Congratulations on holding sov that noone is contesting. The moment someone else wants to take it from you, you will stop owning it, guaranteed. You're absolutely the worst pilots in this entire war (unless bombing yourselves is what we're grading on). Also, you should check your math.
We could be the worst pilots in Eve mate but at least we undock and try to shoot stuff, not hide away in Saranen on the orders of Emperor Mittens.
My math is fine. MOA currently own 9 systems, SMA have 6, TNT has 1, Razor and Initiative are sov-less. You must be so drunk on Kool Aid you can't see it.
Anyway I'm sure anybody of relevance in Eve would say that compared to SMA we are giants |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33492
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Posted - 2016.04.12 18:24:52 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Rain6637 wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:So really what do Goons have to cheer for? A future more fun than these past two years. Try to talk to him as little as possible please I outrank you. Back in your box before I'm forced to Widot you. Lol outrank me how and what is widotting mean
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Aaron Honk
Distributed Denial of Service
92
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Posted - 2016.04.12 18:26:50 -
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The forum is so much better and yet thousand of people prefer reddit, and not only MBC fans, /r/eve was popular years before all of this happened. |
Akballah Kassan
Flames Of Chaos Mordus Angels
94
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Posted - 2016.04.12 18:27:17 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:
9 systems taken on the map friend, every little bit counts against the evil Gons. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7472
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Posted - 2016.04.12 18:58:37 -
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Akballah Kassan wrote:We could be the worst pilots in Eve mate but at least we undock and try to shoot stuff, not hide away in Saranen on the orders of Emperor Mittens. I was undocking genius, you might remember me from a couple of days ago, I was one of the interceptors that shot up your cormorant gang (and the random cynabal).
Akballah Kassan wrote:My math is fine. MOA currently own 9 systems, SMA have 6, TNT has 1, Razor and Initiative are sov-less. You must be so drunk on Kool Aid you can't see it. According to my dotlan, SMA have 6, TNT has 4 and MOA has 9.
Akballah Kassan wrote:Anyway I'm sure anybody of relevance in Eve would say that compared to SMA we are giants I sincerely doubt that.
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Aiwha
Infinite Point Violence of Action.
1092
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Posted - 2016.04.12 19:29:53 -
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You really need to get out of SMA, because you can't smug post AND be in literally the biggest joke alliance in EVE right now.
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7472
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Posted - 2016.04.12 19:59:31 -
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Aiwha wrote:You really need to get out of SMA, because you can't smug post AND be in literally the biggest joke alliance in EVE right now. Apparently I can. And dude, still not in MOA. SMA are the second biggest joke at best.
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Aiwha
Infinite Point Violence of Action.
1093
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Posted - 2016.04.12 20:28:48 -
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I thought MOA just evicted you?
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
405
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Posted - 2016.04.12 22:24:39 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Arsine Mayhem wrote:Just a game huh? You certainly wouldn't say that if you pulled your head out of mitlamies butt long enough to hear him spaz out like a ret@rd. Omg, they backstabbed us, really? HTFU you losers. I do listen to him giving his speeches to his in-game troops, and I'm certain he sees where the game ends and the real world begins. You certainly seem to be lacking that distinction, and that's pretty worrying. Like I said, you need to calm down my friend.
LOLOLOLz, umm, that's why your alliance got trashed, smacked down like a whore. Like I said, pull your head out.
You are just trash to be thrown out. Oh, to late. |
Mario Putzo
1641
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Posted - 2016.04.12 22:31:48 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Arsine Mayhem wrote:Just a game huh? You certainly wouldn't say that if you pulled your head out of mitlamies butt long enough to hear him spaz out like a ret@rd. Omg, they backstabbed us, really? HTFU you losers. I do listen to him giving his speeches to his in-game troops, and I'm certain he sees where the game ends and the real world begins. You certainly seem to be lacking that distinction, and that's pretty worrying. Like I said, you need to calm down my friend. LOLOLOLz, umm, that's why your alliance got trashed, smacked down like a whore. Like I said, pull your head out. You are just trash to be thrown out. Oh, to late.
In all fairness, SMA has been fighting a war for like 4 months, mostly on its own. They did a pretty remarkable job in holding out against TISHU and Horde earlier in the year. Cloud Ring was given up by GSF not SMA, Goons ordered condensing, which was the right choice, but not a loss for SMA.
Monkey's put up a good fight, to bad their toxic upper leadership caused the alliance to collapse outright, and take it to the graveyard of Null Sec. I think SMA as a whole deserve more credit than folks, and perhaps even myself at times have given them. Its hard to forget how long they actually fought for.
But at the same time Goons never came, at the detriment to the average line member and corp. |
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