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SandKid
Gateway Mining Division
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:28:00 -
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So ever since the new changes from Crucible (which the vast majority are way awesome), I've noticed that just about every other system has a sun that flashes like crazy.
My screen, flashing solid white intermittently, cannot be good for my health (considering it does actually cause me headaches after awhile). Now my current remedy for this is to simply rotate the camera away from the sun - which means if combat layout of a mission or fight happens to be TOWARDS the sun, I'm screwed.
Is this a known issue? I recall it happening pre-Crucible, but it was very rare. This is now happening on a very regular basis and, in a way, it really destroys the playability of the game because literally you cannot see the screen from it flashing white constantly.
Does this have to do with the new flare on the suns? And is CCP aware of the problem? Of all the things Crucible needs fixed (which isn't too much, you got a ton right) this needs to be near the top because of how severely it affects gameplay and player comfort. I joke about epilepsy, except this issue is so bad it really COULD kill someone that's epileptic.
Any others suffering from this very annoying graphic bug? |
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
49
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:30:00 -
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Nope. Be sure to update your graphics driver. If not resolved than, contact ccp (bug report).
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524 |
Alara IonStorm
632
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:33:00 -
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WARNING LINKS TO FLASHY IMAGE
Now if anyone gets a seizure it is there own fault. |
SandKid
Gateway Mining Division
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:34:00 -
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Drivers are fully updated - still having the problem. |
Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
Care Factor
38
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:38:00 -
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I've had the same issue for ages, not sure how long... I stopped caring and just without thinking about it, look away from the sun.
"Have you had your morning coffee?" -> the Coffee Lovers Brewing Club is recruiting! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=363976#post363976 |
Arec Bardwin
Perkone
Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:40:00 -
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Dr Karsun wrote:I've had the same issue for ages, not sure how long... I stopped caring and just without thinking about it, look away from the sun.
Pretty much the same here. Over multiple computers.
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SandKid
Gateway Mining Division
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:45:00 -
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Kinda sad that it's never been fixed...
Because it really sucks. It's more annoying than ships 'poofing' out missiles.
At least that doesn't blow your eyes out when playing at night... |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
Not Usually Killing Everyone.
226
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:49:00 -
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I had this problem since Tyrannis or Incursion i think
you can get rid of it by turning off "sun occluded by object" or w/e
The Drake is a Lie |
Ooiit
Lebowski's Urban Achievers
1
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:49:00 -
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I've always had the problem but now with crucible it is MUCH worse. If my ship even remotely faces the suns direction my screen starts flashing like crazy.
It's really really annoying. I've heard other people complain about it aswell. |
Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
76
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:54:00 -
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Oh other people have this too? Yeah its quite annoying, easy to fix by reorenting camera, but still meh. The sun shouldn't that bright this far away! |
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SandKid
Gateway Mining Division
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:58:00 -
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Well nice to know I'm not the only one at least...
Any CCP response on the issue and if they have an idea on how to fix it? |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
566
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Posted - 2011.12.17 21:27:00 -
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The solution might be to unupdate your drivers (as in, get older ones).
Heh.
P.S. - J.K.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contributor_name:Akita_T#Contributions_link_collection |
SandKid
Gateway Mining Division
0
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Posted - 2011.12.17 21:29:00 -
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*sigh* No Kidding Akita...with the luck we've had getting graphic fixes in EVE's history, chance are half of them WOULD be fixed with back-dated drivers...lol |
Tamiya Sarossa
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
121
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Posted - 2011.12.17 21:32:00 -
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Also have this problem \o/, latest drivers etc etc. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
567
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Posted - 2011.12.17 22:05:00 -
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Well, I have never noticed this problem before even if I play at near-max settings and my drivers are relatively old (20 May 2011).
Then again, I don't travel that often, or at least not through many systems.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contributor_name:Akita_T#Contributions_link_collection |
SandKid
Gateway Mining Division
0
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Posted - 2011.12.18 06:08:00 -
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Bump.
I'm now interested to see how many others have this problem. It's pretty serious in terms of affecting gameplay...I mean, it forces you to ignore 180 degrees of the game in visual terms! The alternative is headaches and blindness from your screen simulating camera flashes. Is CCP actually aware of this issue and are they trying to fix it?
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Ris Dnalor
Fleet of Doom
Ushra'Khan
89
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Posted - 2011.12.18 06:14:00 -
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toggling the 'sun is occluded by' option thingy stopped the white flashes at least. |
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
17
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Posted - 2011.12.18 06:58:00 -
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The sun is to bright for me since I play this game. And since this patch some nebulas in mission have the same problem. Tryed to adjust it peer driver and monitor settings but nothing real solved the problem.
Just becouse of this I can't play when I have some light migraine attacks :(.
The flashy part I had some time ago. It was caused by small objects which where between me and the sun like small rocks, cargo containers and corpses. Toggling the sun option solved this problem for me.
(PS: it was the reson, why I got migraine attacks sometimes!)
A slider in the options (ESC) would be cool to turn the sun-brightness down would be cool.
Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship! |
Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
488
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Posted - 2011.12.18 08:04:00 -
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Ooiit wrote:I've always had the problem but now with crucible it is MUCH worse. If my ship even remotely faces the suns direction my screen starts flashing like crazy.
It's really really annoying. I've heard other people complain about it aswell.
I've had this problem too. Much worse after crucible. Are you guys using ATI? |
DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
586
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Posted - 2011.12.18 08:23:00 -
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Use Driver Sweeper (http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html) to COMPLETELY erase your video drivers.
Simply installing new drivers on top of old ones leaves lots of stuff behind, and using the default uninstaller leaves a fair amount of files remaining.
These files can do weird and crazy things, so make sure your GPU drivers are clean, with no unwanted leftovers. |
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Mechael
Helhest 1st Prospectors' Collective
25
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Posted - 2011.12.20 22:46:00 -
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Glad I'm not the only one! And yeah, using AMD/ATI.
I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2011.12.20 22:49:00 -
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just curious
two accounts loged, window mode, and both directed at the sun, or at "same" camera angle? |
SandKid
Gateway Mining Division
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Posted - 2012.01.02 06:25:00 -
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Bumping - Can CCP confirm this as a known issue and maybe explain a temporary work-around? Or better yet, put in a word for a permanent fix! |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD
Vanguard Ascendants
267
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Posted - 2012.01.02 06:36:00 -
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SandKid wrote:Bumping - Can CCP confirm this as a known issue and maybe explain a temporary work-around? Or better yet, put in a word for a permanent fix!
asking for info could make this a 100+ pages thread |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1058
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Posted - 2012.01.02 06:39:00 -
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This explains why I keep wetting my pants.
I hope.
Or it could be because I am over 40. |
SandKid
Gateway Mining Division
3
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Posted - 2012.01.02 06:41:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:SandKid wrote:Bumping - Can CCP confirm this as a known issue and maybe explain a temporary work-around? Or better yet, put in a word for a permanent fix! asking for info could make this a 100+ pages thread
Well...it IS a pretty bad problem. I normally don't get uppity over a botched feature, but when it directly affects the ability to enjoy the game entirely...well, you get the idea. I just hope it doesn't take 100+ pages to get a response from CCP! |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
29
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Posted - 2012.01.02 09:29:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:I had this problem since Tyrannis or Incursion i think
you can get rid of it by turning off "sun occluded by object" or w/e
This and yes, it's extremely annoying.
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Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers
12
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Posted - 2012.01.02 09:57:00 -
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I haven't had this on 4 different computers and a laptop (2 NVIDIA, 1 AMD, 1 Intel and I do not know the other). |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
182
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Posted - 2012.01.02 12:12:00 -
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I use to have this but havnt noticed much lately thought it was fixed actually, but suppose not. |
Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc
Northern Associates.
146
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Posted - 2012.01.02 12:22:00 -
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I have this same issue, with fully updated drivers...
On 2 machines...
BUT...
This only happens when I'm dual boxing on 1 monitor...
Make ICE deplete and re-spawn just like roids. That alone would stop botting.
(It'll upset the goons, so that will NEVER happen) |
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Glorious CEO
Universal Frog
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Posted - 2012.01.02 12:35:00 -
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I have this problem since Tyrannis. It only appears when dual boxing, even when using two screens. It happened on ATI card first, then later on Nvidia. No driver fiddling would mend it.
I never bug reported it, because disabling "Sun is occluded by objects" makes it go away completely. |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
1252
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Posted - 2012.01.02 12:37:00 -
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I don't have that issue, and the suns get occluded by objects.
Weird.
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
900
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Posted - 2012.01.02 12:55:00 -
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SandKid wrote:Bumping - Can CCP confirm this as a known issue and maybe explain a temporary work-around? Or better yet, put in a word for a permanent fix!
Probably be a good idea to check in Issues, Workarounds & Localization sub forum channel for any related info.
Probably best to do as others have listed, deselect the Esc menu option 'Sun is occluded by objects'.
Also, can easily rotate the camera view so that the sun isn't in it. |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
In Vitro.
265
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Posted - 2012.01.02 13:10:00 -
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Another nVidia user that only gets it when dual accounting with "sun is occluded by objects selected" crew checking in.
The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/
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Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers
6
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Posted - 2012.01.02 13:42:00 -
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Iv been getting this since way before Crucible.. I dual monitor also with 2 accounts and im running with 2 x 1GB ATI cards most up to date drivers also. |
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CCP Mannapi
C C P
C C P Alliance
18
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Posted - 2012.01.02 15:14:00 -
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Hi there,
Is this view angle dependent for everyone who experiences this?
Also, is this tied to solar systems. Is it more likely to happen in certain systems? If so please list them here or preferably in a Bug Report.
CCP Mannapi - EVE Graphics Programmer - Team TriLambda |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
Comic Mischief
247
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Posted - 2012.01.02 15:41:00 -
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Also if you are full screen or windowed, and the graphics settings. I keep all my graphics low (so I can run 3 clients on a laptop) and almost never see a flash.
CCP employees should never proclaim a feature to be awesome. Only subscribers should.
Subscribers can never answer a question posed to CCP. Only CCP can. |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers
6
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Posted - 2012.01.02 15:41:00 -
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Iv never kept track of the solar systems it happens in, but it happens frequently enough so i dont think its dependent on particular systems.. It is dependent on a particular angle you look at the sun at, i usually just move the camera away to stop it.
Guarantee you i will go and try to figure out the angle or something and ill never be able to purposefully get it to tell you. |
Xtover
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
45
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Posted - 2012.01.02 16:28:00 -
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CCP Mannapi wrote:Hi there,
Is this view angle dependent for everyone who experiences this?
Also, is this tied to solar systems. Is it more likely to happen in certain systems? If so please list them here or preferably in a Bug Report.
System dependent, and when the sun is in the fov. |
Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
In Vitro.
265
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Posted - 2012.01.02 16:40:00 -
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Ummm. Which category should the bug report be under? Art? Tech Art?
It matters not which system I am in. But both accounts need to be in space then if the sun is in the fov (regardless of whether this is true of the other one) white-outs occur on that account.
The Full Pocket Aggro blog:-á http://fullpocketaggro.blogspot.com/
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SandKid
Gateway Mining Division
3
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Posted - 2012.01.02 22:47:00 -
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CCP Mannapi wrote:Hi there,
Is this view angle dependent for everyone who experiences this?
Also, is this tied to solar systems. Is it more likely to happen in certain systems? If so please list them here or preferably in a Bug Report.
I've seen it in many different systems - some times, and some times not - so for me it does not seem to be system dependent. I do indeed dual box, and I noticed someone mention that as a potential cause. I'm almost certain the issue is related to sun flare...here's my example.
When warping acorss a system, sometimes the screen becomes very light blue - you can see through this mind you, like something casting a blue light on the system. This brightens as you rotate the camera towards the sun, and lessens if you face opposite the sun. If you actually VIEW the sun, the flare ceases and usually won't return (rarely it does).
The main problem I listed probably has to do with the sun occluded option - I don't mind the sun appearing and disappearing because of this, but I do mind it causing the incredible white flash on my screen which I assume is an insta-flare from the sun suddenly 'appearing' from behind objects rapidly.
The problem is most apparent at Jump Gates and/or sites - I honestly can't say I've seen it while at stations. I see it most frequently during missions, but I also see it in roid belts when my corp gang mines. It's not the roids blocking the sun either and often, according to the solar map, there are no stations, planets, or other sites between us and the sun - which implies it's not an object affecting it.
I wish I could give more information - or better yet pictures. I may try and video it happening if I can. At this point I just turn the camera away when it happens, but that's very problematic in missions if what I need to fly towards (for looting, fighting, w/e) is the same direction as the sun. It really breaks the enjoyment of the game - not like you can't play EVE from strictly the overview. |
Blue Rook
Tera Incognita
Rolling Thunder.
1
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Posted - 2012.01.02 22:54:00 -
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I has it, makes my brain hurt. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD
Vanguard Ascendants
272
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Posted - 2012.01.02 23:25:00 -
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wtf Sandkid you own ,Asking for info,getting ask for info by CCP ,in just a few pages
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We Rabble Because We Care |
Vegare
Das zweite Konglomerat
The Initiative.
15
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Posted - 2012.01.02 23:25:00 -
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Dr Karsun wrote:I've had the same issue for ages, not sure how long... I stopped caring and just without thinking about it, look away from the sun.
Here too. Since years. HD4870 + up to date catalyst.
A workaround is to disable the option "items occlude sun" (if remember correctly) in the menu. Looks ugly though. |
Tear Miner
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
93
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Posted - 2012.01.03 00:10:00 -
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I'm not the only one, staring at the sun... |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD
Vanguard Ascendants
272
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Posted - 2012.01.03 00:13:00 -
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Tear Miner wrote:I'm not the only one, staring at the sun...
stop staring or you loose the other eye
We Rabble Because We Care |
met worst
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.01.03 00:43:00 -
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Twin nvidia 8600 GT's on 2 monitors.
No prob here in windowed mode running up to 4 accounts. |
SandKid
Gateway Mining Division
20
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Posted - 2012.01.03 01:06:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:wtf Sandkid you own ,Asking for info,getting ask for info by CCP ,in just a few pages
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This made me laugh...
In all seriousness, everyone else who has this issue please submit a bug report if you can give concrete details:
If it happens in the same systems
If it happens at specific events (like rats spawning or some such)
If you see a correlation between hardware and the problem (Dual Boxing only?)
This isn't something affecting all of New Eden (or maybe it is and most just didn't bother to report it...), but it's a serious problem none the less that ought to be remedied. It dates back years, but until now it wasn't a severe issue as it occurred rarely. This implies that w/e code affects it can be changed - it's not something necessarily buried deep in the chasm of ccp development.
Thanks for all input - if you DON'T have this issue, do post your video cards and hardware. That might help form a correlation. For example I'm noticing ATX and NVidia mentioned on problem people a lot, but not much of anything else. |
Arbiter Reformed
Saiph Industries
SRS.
17
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Posted - 2012.01.03 01:50:00 -
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i am actually an epileptic and this makes it a very serious bug for me
running an amd card and yes its viewing angle dependant i will try and fraps it |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
496
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Posted - 2012.01.03 03:45:00 -
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Haven't had this particular problem. Though I periodically get something similar with gates being flashy white, but it goes away when I jump out and back in. |
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Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc
Northern Associates.
146
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Posted - 2012.01.03 05:16:00 -
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Glorious CEO wrote:I have this problem since Tyrannis. It only appears when dual boxing, even when using two screens. It happened on ATI card first, then later on Nvidia. No driver fiddling would mend it.
I never bug reported it, because disabling "Sun is occluded by objects" makes it go away completely.
I should try that...
Make ICE deplete and re-spawn just like roids. That alone would stop botting.
(It'll upset the goons, so that will NEVER happen) |
Johnathan Roark
The Graduates
RAZOR Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.01.03 05:19:00 -
[52] - Quote
This even happens to me on the login screen.
EVEVERIFY - A recruiting API Verification and Audit Tool
Also try out Yapeal for your php api needs |
svetlana
Constellation Guard
20
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Posted - 2012.01.03 05:53:00 -
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SandKid wrote:
Thanks for all input - if you DON'T have this issue, do post your video cards and hardware. That might help ...
if it can help, I do NOT have this problem, running on Nvidia Geforce GTX560m notebook.
my other Nvidia cards on my desktops also do not have this problem.
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Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
91
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Posted - 2012.01.03 07:22:00 -
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CCP Mannapi wrote:Hi there,
Is this view angle dependent for everyone who experiences this?
Also, is this tied to solar systems. Is it more likely to happen in certain systems? If so please list them here or preferably in a Bug Report.
I get occasional flashes with ships warping onto my grid.
Sometimes I also get a very fast succession of flashes without any apparent reason while just sitting in a POS, but changing the zoomlevel appears to make it stop for most part.
This happens on two different computers, both with ATI gfx cards (HD3850 and HD6950) and has happened for quite some time now (since Tyrannis might be right). |
Embrodak Kazerin
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.01.03 08:58:00 -
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This is happening to me in nearly every system. Currently using an HP Touchpad notebook. (AMD Turion dual-core, ATI Radeon HD 3200 graphics) I've seen it with both the factory default video drivers and the newest generic ATI drivers. The client is running on an external monitor in Fixed Window mode with 1680x1050 resolution, with medium shaders, high LOD and texture detail, and everything else as low as it can go.
It is not system-specific. It happens in nearly all systems, no matter where I go.
It is viewing-angle dependent. It happens only when the sun's location is visible, and seems to occur whenever objects/brackets occlude it. Turning the camera away from the sun makes the flashing stop.
It is not dual-boxing specific. I get the flashing screen when running a single client. I am, however, extending the desktop over both the external monitor and the notebook's own screen.
Unchecking "Sun is Occluded by Objects" in the options seems to fix the problem.
[*] The flashing started on TQ when Crucible was released. It didn't occur in the Crucible test builds on Sisi, but I don't know if it happens on Sisi now. I might have a look later if I remember. |
Dors Venabily
United Starbase Systems
15
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Posted - 2012.01.03 09:36:00 -
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CCP Mannapi wrote:Hi there,
Is this view angle dependent for everyone who experiences this?
Also, is this tied to solar systems. Is it more likely to happen in certain systems? If so please list them here or preferably in a Bug Report.
It depends on the color of the star for me.
blue whitish are more prone to do that then red in my experience |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
Comic Mischief
247
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Posted - 2012.01.03 19:01:00 -
[57] - Quote
I do not have this issue.
MacBookPro, NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M, low graphics settings, objects block sun ON.
CCP employees should never proclaim a feature to be awesome. Only subscribers should.
Subscribers can never answer a question posed to CCP. Only CCP can. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
398
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Posted - 2012.01.03 19:12:00 -
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There is an option to occlude the sun. I used that for awhile when mining, now I just automatically turn away. It doesn't flash for me, just whites out pretty much the entire screen.
7300 GT, all settings lowest.
Had same problem with 8800 GTX before Incarna burn it. So, I would say that it has been ever since Incarna as that happened some months after it came out and I had idled in the Captain's Quarters thinking my machine was fine with it after testing it.
Ideas and stuff
EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
33
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:05:00 -
[59] - Quote
I have this problem too, have had it for months.. well before crucible.. I think it started with Incarna..
It's REALLY annoying, and yea gives me a real headache if i don't rotate the sun out of the frame which does often put me in a poor tactical position to observe the combat) |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
22
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Posted - 2012.01.03 20:11:00 -
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the sun is very bright but I have not noticed any big flashing or anything
window/full mode
no dual boxing
NVDIA card, updated drives GTX 260
On holiday. -áIn some other world.
Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours.
To a bright centre of absolute convicton. -áWhere the dripping patchouli was more than scent. -á
It was a sun |
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ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells
0
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:05:00 -
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This problem will only affect people with photo-sensitive epilespy (flashing lights, strobes etc) so if in doubt see your doctor to double check.
I suffer with epilespy myself but not with the above, there are many different things that can trigger seizures and yes they can be fatal.
So for safetys sake get checked out, Eve is a great game and it would be a shame if something like this spoilt it.
Fly safe. |
Pandorium9
Pandorium Prime
The CodeX Alliance
11
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Posted - 2012.01.03 22:31:00 -
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Johnathan Roark wrote:This even happens to me on the login screen.
Sometimes happens to me too at the login screen and in game. |
SandKid
Gateway Mining Division
106
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:29:00 -
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Pandorium9 wrote:Johnathan Roark wrote:This even happens to me on the login screen. Sometimes happens to me too at the login screen and in game.
I didn't even think about this - but it also happens on my login screen sometimes too! Usually right as the game starts up and the Condors fly from overhead. Once they fly around the station it usually has stopped. It does not happen everytime on startup, which is odd since I assume the login background is 100% the same each time?
However, settings affect this background too iirc - as in if I lower the details, for example, the background details will diminish too as if in game. But that 'fake system' background is a solid example of the flashing occurring at random. |
SandKid
Gateway Mining Division
106
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:32:00 -
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ctx2007 wrote:This problem will only affect people with photo-sensitive epilespy (flashing lights, strobes etc) so if in doubt see your doctor to double check.
I suffer with epilespy myself but not with the above, there are many different things that can trigger seizures and yes they can be fatal.
So for safetys sake get checked out, Eve is a great game and it would be a shame if something like this spoilt it.
Fly safe.
Like he says, this can be a very serious issue - all kinds of players play EVE, I remember color-blindness being a topic of importance quite some time ago and the desire to have the game have a UI setting for color-blind players. (Color Blind, if you did not know, doesn't necessarily mean seeing black and white only - it can be a whole range of random colors, just not all of them like normal sight.)
That this happens on the login screen means 'turning the camera' isn't an option either - but it also proves it happens with a still camera. So whatever the problem is, it's not necessarily the angle of the camera but directly tied to the sun's effects. |
David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
295
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Posted - 2012.01.03 23:44:00 -
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SandKid wrote:So ever since the new changes from Crucible (which the vast majority are way awesome), I've noticed that just about every other system has a sun that flashes like crazy.
My screen, flashing solid white intermittently, cannot be good for my health (considering it does actually cause me headaches after awhile). Now my current remedy for this is to simply rotate the camera away from the sun - which means if combat layout of a mission or fight happens to be TOWARDS the sun, I'm screwed.
Is this a known issue? I recall it happening pre-Crucible, but it was very rare. This is now happening on a very regular basis and, in a way, it really destroys the playability of the game because literally you cannot see the screen from it flashing white constantly.
Does this have to do with the new flare on the suns? And is CCP aware of the problem? Of all the things Crucible needs fixed (which isn't too much, you got a ton right) this needs to be near the top because of how severely it affects gameplay and player comfort. I joke about epilepsy, except this issue is so bad it really COULD kill someone that's epileptic.
Any others suffering from this very annoying graphic bug?
to turn off the epilectic seizures hit esc & uncheck "sun is occluded by objects"
Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs. |
Cameron Zero
Red Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.01.06 00:03:00 -
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Prior to the Crucible expansion, I never experienced a "flickering sun" problem. Now, however, I experience it all the time, and it's pretty annoying. Yes, I know I can turn off the Sun occluded option (and I have), but I wish I didn't have to.
Oh, one other thing which might be helpful, prior to Crucible, I was running an Nvidia 8800GTS. With the expansion, I also updated my video card to an AMD 6870.
So, maybe the expansion doesn't matter, and it's due to the video card, or vice versa.
Either way, it sucks. :(
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GǪ" |
Mr Bigwinky
Click Click BOOM
4U Holdings Inc
90
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Posted - 2012.01.06 10:59:00 -
[67] - Quote
Photosensitive epileptics are the only ones who suffer from bright / flashy lights. Also, I don't believe (though I could be wrong) that people have just dropped dead from it!
As for the matter of the sun being too bright. Do look directly into the sun IRL?
Perhaps when you have to look toward the sun you should wear sun-glasses?
Welcome to EVE online, here's your rubix cube, go F*** yourself GÖÑ |
Raven Ether
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
99
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Posted - 2012.01.06 11:13:00 -
[68] - Quote
Suns are **** and need an update anyway.
and the pulse laser effect is ********, that needs fixing too. |
Zowie Powers
Hole in the wall
36
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Posted - 2012.01.06 11:35:00 -
[69] - Quote
I get the bug you are describing when I dual box in window mode.
As soon as I do that, looking at the sun on either client may result in hard white flashing.
It was before crucible though. Crucible they just turned the brightness of the sun up, because :literally nobody knows the **** why they would do that: |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
Project Wildfire
113
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Posted - 2012.01.06 11:56:00 -
[70] - Quote
CCP Mannapi wrote:Hi there,
Is this view angle dependent for everyone who experiences this?
Also, is this tied to solar systems. Is it more likely to happen in certain systems? If so please list them here or preferably in a Bug Report.
For me it's just when an object blocks the sun if the camera moves a bit you get the flashing effect. Even a pod can block the entire light from the sun apparently 
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Andrei Vassaliev
U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees
0
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Posted - 2012.01.06 13:13:00 -
[71] - Quote
Rek Seven wrote:For me it's just when an object blocks the sun if the camera moves a bit you get the flashing effect. Even a pod can block the entire light from the sun apparently
Same for me. This issue exists since Incursion expansion. I hoped this would be fixed in Crucible, but not.  |
Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
121
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Posted - 2012.01.06 16:47:00 -
[72] - Quote
Some things that could be important:
- What processor do you have?
- What video card do you have (SLI/Crossfire)?
- What kind of monitor do you have?
- Are you running at the monitor's native resolution?
- Do you have VSync on?
- Are you setting object to occlude the sun?
I've heard complaining about this for a while, but I've never encountered it. I've had 5 different video card set ups (8800GT SLI, 8800GT, 250 GTS, GTX 560 Ti, X1600m), 4 different monitors (laptop, single LCD, dual LCD, dual LED), and 3 different processors (old something, q6700, and i7 920) in a few combinations so far with no issue. |
Barakkus
1478
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Posted - 2012.01.06 18:07:00 -
[73] - Quote
Embrodak Kazerin wrote:
The flashing started on TQ when Crucible was released. It didn't occur in the Crucible test builds on Sisi, but I don't know if it happens on Sisi now. I might have a look later if I remember.
The flashing has been going on for almost a year now actually.
Andrei Vassaliev wrote:Rek Seven wrote:For me it's just when an object blocks the sun if the camera moves a bit you get the flashing effect. Even a pod can block the entire light from the sun apparently Same for me. This issue exists since Incursion expansion. I hoped this would be fixed in Crucible, but not.
It was supposed to be fixed, and I think it was a few updates ago, but it seems to be back now.
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Mnengli Noiliffe
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2012.01.06 18:34:00 -
[74] - Quote
this is AMD specific bug so they pprobably won't fix it since they have some kind of deal with NVidia. |
Vincent Cod
Do not disturb
0
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Posted - 2012.01.30 02:03:00 -
[75] - Quote
I also have this issue, turning off "Sun is occluded by objects" does fix it for the most part, but i still get occasional flashes where the screen goes completely white.
ATI Radeon 5870 HD
Windows 7 64-bit ultimate |
XY Zed
23
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Posted - 2012.01.30 02:25:00 -
[76] - Quote
Can we just turn off the sun? I've always thought it was too bright, like staring a light bulb...
edit: 90% of time when i moved my camera was to make sure I wasnt looking at the sun. |
T703
Clann Fian
Narwhals Ate My Duck
0
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Posted - 2012.01.30 02:29:00 -
[77] - Quote
Mnengli Noiliffe wrote:this is AMD specific bug so they pprobably won't fix it since they have some kind of deal with NVidia.
Negative, I have GTX570 and also experience this sun flashing/white out. |
Spineker
140
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Posted - 2012.01.30 02:34:00 -
[78] - Quote
Didnt they dim the stars last patch? They are not so bright now to be annoying but never any flashy stuff. |
Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
226
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Posted - 2012.01.30 02:49:00 -
[79] - Quote
XY Zed wrote:Can we just turn off the sun? I've always thought it was too bright, like staring a light bulb...
edit: 90% of time when i moved my camera was to make sure I wasnt looking at the sun.
This actually. I'd like this option.
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Bayushi Tamago
Solar Deliberative
Games of Divinity
23
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Posted - 2012.01.30 06:08:00 -
[80] - Quote
I get the sun flares as well.
ATI chip, dual box - 1 client/screen in fixed window mode, only really happens when facing the sun, but happens in many systems, mostly when missioning, especially when there is clouds present on grid |
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Toto Zinny
GWA Corp
1
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Posted - 2012.01.30 06:57:00 -
[81] - Quote
I have noticed how the brightness of the suns makes it near impossible to see your H.U.D if you have it pinned. It is a problem I am sure they can fix. |
Cass Lie
State War Academy
Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.01.30 07:21:00 -
[82] - Quote
Also getting this. Highly annoying. ATI Mobility FireGL V5700
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McDeran
Megaton m3 Heavy Industries
Damned Nation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.30 09:11:00 -
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I have this problem too. I've always just assumed it's the bloom effect going nuts. I've noticed this happen on a smaller scale with objects in space getting covered in a white blob. Used to happen for me all the time on starbase control towers. Since a star is much brighter it would make sense for the whole screen to go white. |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
56
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Posted - 2012.01.30 19:04:00 -
[84] - Quote
I get it in any system, when the sun is visible on the screen an 'sun is occluded by objects' is checkmarked. |
Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill
EVE Animal Control
33
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Posted - 2012.01.30 19:58:00 -
[85] - Quote
I've had the problem for a while, it doesn't bother me too much, quickly looking away from the sun and looking back at it usually fixes the issue.
And it normally happens when I'm warping so it doesn't effect my ability to do most things. |
Yumi Sagara
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.01.30 20:06:00 -
[86] - Quote
I feel really lucky that none of my computers or my friends computers have this problem. >_> We all use NVidia cards, though. I don't think there's an ATI in this household. lol  |
TERKSIS
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 09:33:00 -
[87] - Quote
bumping as this issue is starting to really annoy me.
i used to have an ATI 5750 and now a 6850. makes no difference.
i don't have steps to replicate. it's fine for a while and then the screen starts flickering white like crazy and will only stop if i rotate the camera away from the sun
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Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
145
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Posted - 2012.02.14 10:16:00 -
[88] - Quote
TERKSIS wrote:bumping as this issue is starting to really annoy me. i used to have an ATI 5750 and now a 6850. makes no difference. i don't have steps to replicate. it's fine for a while and then the screen starts flickering white like crazy and will only stop if i rotate the camera away from the sun
+9000 prop's points for effective use of a search function.  
Hope it gets resolved for you.
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Anshio Tamark
Avitus Lugus
107
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Posted - 2012.02.14 17:37:00 -
[89] - Quote
SandKid wrote:Any others suffering from this very annoying graphic bug?
I see it all the time when the sun is "on-screen" too.
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Valei Khurelem
316
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Posted - 2012.02.14 17:45:00 -
[90] - Quote
I was honestly about to write a sarcastic troll comment about this but you know what? Fix it CCP, people already have to deal with douchebags in EVE Online they don't need the game causing them medical problems when they log out as well.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
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Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
583
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Posted - 2012.02.14 17:54:00 -
[91] - Quote
Seems to happen most when all the little white planet and gate and other icons clump up around the source of the sun flare / center of the sun. I think they are acting as unintended occlusions. |
Dard Reguloni
Double-Down
Narwhals Ate My Duck
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 19:00:00 -
[92] - Quote
Happens to me quite often, not in every system but in several. i have a MSI Radeon 6870 Hawk Edition GPU, and i am using two monitors, max graphics settings. Not sure what makes it happen in some solar systems and not others.
Edit: While i do have two monitors as many people have also stated, it does happen even if im only running ONE client. It only happens when the sun is in the field of vison as well. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
339
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:48:00 -
[93] - Quote
Stop staring into the sun you window lickers.
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Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
Villore Accords
66
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Posted - 2012.02.14 22:41:00 -
[94] - Quote
I get this issue too.
Even get a white screen flashing on the login screen if I have say a youtube video running in the background. |
Beduit
14th Legion
Sanctuary Pact
0
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Posted - 2012.02.15 01:41:00 -
[95] - Quote
Ris Dnalor wrote:toggling the 'sun is occluded by' option thingy stopped the white flashes at least.
Yeah it's not a great fix but it helps. Plz fx ccp. |
Mr LaForge
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
235
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Posted - 2012.02.15 01:53:00 -
[96] - Quote
Another problem is the light they make come from the gas clouds is then multiplied by the sun. Make it either or, not both. Most of the time i have to turn the camera a completely opposite way than I want to look because of bright lights.
We're in the super far future and the ship cockpits don't have auto darkening.
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
573
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Posted - 2012.02.15 03:36:00 -
[97] - Quote
I still can't get any white flicker, other than an Amarr gate once in a while. How bad is it?
Though the sun's shine on clouds is really painful... |
Revman Zim
Babylon Holdings
United Interstellar Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.02.15 06:47:00 -
[98] - Quote
I have the same issue. Multiple star systems, I could discern no pattern with respect to location. Just have the sun in the FOV with objects in the line of sight of the sun.
Laptop, one client, LCD, 1920x1080, AMD Radeon HD 6990M, i7-2670QM cpu. Usually windowed mode, but it occurs in full screen also. |
Logix42
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
22
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Posted - 2012.02.15 06:53:00 -
[99] - Quote
have had this happen before, am dual boxing windowed mode. Will start paying attention to when it happens specifically
Accelerate your particles out of my system immediately! |
Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
76
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Posted - 2012.02.15 11:17:00 -
[100] - Quote
I have a bloom problem. When ever I pan the camera towards the sun, there's a flash and my screen turns white. If I keep panning, the screen returns to normal. However, if I stop panning the camera when the flash happens, my whole screen remains white. I can still see the overview and the HUD, but all of space is white. I can't see my ship, the stars, other ships, and anything near me. It's very annoying |
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Tre Ha
November 17th
Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2012.02.15 11:36:00 -
[101] - Quote
also i got same problem with sun |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
Villore Accords
80
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Posted - 2012.02.15 11:47:00 -
[102] - Quote
I get this too.
specs;
i7 950
x58 Sabertooth
2x HD 6970
2x 1080p 120hz screens
100% max settings.
regarding the question about certain systems, i dont think so. I can be sat watching the same sun from the same location, one screen strobes the other does not. It is intermittent, but looking away from the sun will stop it. |
Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
139
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Posted - 2012.02.15 11:55:00 -
[103] - Quote
It's not only with the sun, but any ships appearing on your grid can cause a flash, meaning a fleet portaling, uncloaking after jump or even just warping in onto your grid causes a massive flash storm, worse than photographers blobbing some VIP. For larger fleets is so bad you are forced to look away for a few seconds until the whole fleet appeared.
This is sooo annoying! |
Gerak Muad'Dib
Defectors of the Shadow
Shadow Operations.
0
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Posted - 2012.04.18 10:57:00 -
[104] - Quote
Also have this problem. It occurs only in (fixed) window mode for me. I have Radeon HD3870.
It might be solved by playing around with some driver settings but I haven't tried that yet.
Timely fix would be nice cos it is really anoying. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
Project Wildfire
264
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Posted - 2012.04.18 11:10:00 -
[105] - Quote
I don't think it's anything to do with PC specs. It's to do with the overview settings. If you have your overview bracket set to show the sun (or any celestial) that icon can block the light from the sun. So because the camera in eve is constantly moving, you get the strobe light effect. |
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