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Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:52:00 -
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Originally by: capt robn0id2 Ok let me see if I have this right from the LV and co point of view.
1)The coalition is bad for bringing too many ships...the node can only support 600ish pilots. So therefor, for goons to play fair, they can only invade LV space when there are low enough number of LV pilots in system for it to be lag-free. So if JV1V has 300 or so LV pilots it is impossible for goons to atack that system with equal or greater numbers without cheating using lag? Or is the fair and noble thing to do jump in with 100 pilots so a nice lag-free game can be enjoyed?
2) Goon pilots are cheating by logging in after a node crash. You seem to claim that by daring to log back in after a node crash goons are making use of unfair tactics and avoiding ur bizillion large bubbles? If you knew this was the case, and knew lag was going to happen why deploy the stupid things?
3) Ur going to win this war?
If any of these three points which ive drawn out from amongst the whinging rabble thats been spouted fom LV is wrong plase fill me in. This is generally the gist im getting from ur post on this thread so far.
The only logical thing to do then, is for LV to draw lots, and have 30 random people in system, and for RAgoon, TCF, Curse etc to draw lots and take in 120.
Because if we assume LV are saying "It's stupid to bring so many numbers when the node can only handle 600", then aren't LV being just as bad by "booking" 300 of those for their own pilots?
This line of thinking will get nowhere. Obviously it's ridiculous to suggest people draw lots etc.
There is no answer to blobbing.
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MGargantua
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:52:00 -
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Edited by: MGargantua on 16/02/2007 05:48:41
Originally by: Nesa
And they had a fleet twice the size logged out in system, and 1000 more pilots who would keep coming till you ran out of ships, or ammo.
Deal with it. We've all had node crashes bork our gatecamps when defending systems.
BTW, if you're going to exaggerate, please try and make it believable... 400 person fleet @ optimal? ROFL.
there we go, someone said it, I was part of that fleet, we had 400 guys in system when LV didn't have more then 10 in local. then we logged in. that was the first node crash. the rest were because of the reinforcements coming in. there are more then many goons, and many many more Curse, TSF, and RA moving through the area to make sure the titan dies.
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aimez
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:52:00 -
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This is a new game feature introduced by CCP to make fleet batles to last longer
have been going on for over 2 hours already and this batle still dousn't seem to be over soon
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Darpz
Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:52:00 -
[184]
its to bad you can't crash the Ship array with the node or goons would be able to own eve
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Cpt Pugwash
BURN EDEN GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: VBboy
Originally by: Swor Edited by: Swor on 16/02/2007 05:31:29 LV has 19 Large bubble and 6 med bubbles
Coalition has 1000-1200 total trying to jump into about 200-300 defenders with massive carrier support
Nodes are totally defeated
200- 300 defenders lol...Well as The second Wave was comming in i saw Local friendlies and double that. With our Fleet I'd have said we could have taken over 800 hostiles given the positioning we had.
This was gonna be an awesoeme fight...Shame bout the LAg and multiple Node crashes!
LV should Not lose the POS as we had the system Locked down and with over 500+ friendlies ready to use wave after way of ships from the station i doubt the hostiles woulf have survived the night!
Anyway..here's to Nodes and Lag fests!
VBboy
500+ friendlies? keep gooing you;re going to outnumber us soon 
Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
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Nesa
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:53:00 -
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I don't think the coalition want a fight, they want the total annihilation of all of CC.. ah BoB and LV's ingame assets. This isn't a 1 vs 1, this is a *everyone you guys ****ed off* vs *everyone who you've yet to **** off*. And the former is MUCH larger than the latter.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:54:00 -
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Originally by: crice
Originally by: FGxHalsey Lets look at it this way, we knew lv had 200 people at the gate with tons of drones and bubbles. We knew we needed to bring enough cover to completely destroy it, allowing us in system so we can support a cap fleet and destroy the capitol yard with a titan.
It is not our fault that breaking into the system and completing our objectives requires forces like that. Similarly it is not your fault that it requires large defense forces to protect said capital array from said attack force.
I must say, I like your post. I respect a type of post like this. CA used to be full of Veteran Honorable people, maybe there is hope.
If you all really wanted a fight then you would come with numbers, instead we have this crap. yes sucks.
We really did consider bringing more people, but we want a fight. I play EvE to PvP.
crice
Welcome to a game of persistance and consequence for actions. There is a reason why you have xxxx amount of people knocking down your doorstep. Anyways, I do indeed hope we load into the system cause I wanna t-shirt. One of your Sigs contained inappropriate material for the eve-o forums, please email [email protected] for a explination. - hutch Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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Tazeko
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:54:00 -
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I m in front of a black screen for now 1h30 !!!
Please CCP do something
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Ansuru Starlancer
The Phoenix Rising Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:54:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: Bellon
Without a nodecrash exploit-swarm would have died on the gate. We had 200 fighters, 15 L bubbles and 400 person fleet at optimal.
With the nodecrash they have conveniently side stepped our fleet and can now take the fight where they want it, a terrible outcome for LV.
So with that size of defending force what should they have attacked with to make you happy?
They shouldn't have attacked. We were capable of defending against anything that could reasonably have jumped into the node. By jumping in anyway, you essentially said "to heck with it, let's crash it and see what advantage we can wring out of it" which is a textbook example of exploitation :)
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Vasili Z
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: Nesa I don't think the coalition want a fight, they want the total annihilation of all of CC.. ah BoB and LV's ingame assets. This isn't a 1 vs 1, this is a *everyone you guys ****ed off* vs *everyone who you've yet to **** off*. And the former is MUCH larger than the latter.
Thanks for saying it so I didn't have to. Gj goons and goonies.
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Lorth
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: Agent Kenshin
Originally by: anister
Originally by: Lorth First of all...
I don't care if LV have 68 bubbles on the gate, and 16 zillion drones...
You have 1000 people
you misread, 1,000 is the total for all parties.
Originally by: Fedaykinn Edited by: Fedaykinn on 16/02/2007 03:56:13 no its is 1000 :) bless thy node indeed
coalition 1000+ lv around 300
Try again.
Regardless, there will be no fight tonight, unless you guys keep trying untill everyone esle has gone to bed.
Kick half your gang and try tommorow.
Bring that many numbers to a fight, on each side is dumb.
Complaining about that lag... is dumb.
Trying again and again to fight... is dumb.
Nothing will happen spare your self, and go to bed, or have a beer, go to the bar and pick up a nussie, you'll thank me in the morning, unless it burns when you pee.
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VBboy
The Phoenix Rising Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jean Moulin LV : For how many time the system is down ? CCP : 5 hours LV : Great !!! enought for regeneration of shield
I'd rather fight for 5 hours! We play the game for fun, but this was gonna be EPIC! Shame your intel is bad on what we have defending lol!
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Omega Bloodstone
Battlestars Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: crice
Originally by: FGxHalsey Lets look at it this way, we knew lv had 200 people at the gate with tons of drones and bubbles. We knew we needed to bring enough cover to completely destroy it, allowing us in system so we can support a cap fleet and destroy the capitol yard with a titan.
It is not our fault that breaking into the system and completing our objectives requires forces like that. Similarly it is not your fault that it requires large defense forces to protect said capital array from said attack force.
I must say, I like your post. I respect a type of post like this. CA used to be full of Veteran Honorable people, maybe there is hope.
If you all really wanted a fight then you would come with numbers, instead we have this crap. yes sucks.
We really did consider bringing more people, but we want a fight. I play EvE to PvP.
crice
I mean, i think we all want to enjoy this more than staring at the char select screen...just blows like hell. hopefull one day we can experience and enjoy eve in this large of an engagement. unfortunately for now, it looks like Eve will not grant us that grace. ohh well, blood is spilled not in space tonight, but in the living room wishing...
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Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ansuru Starlancer
They shouldn't have attacked. We were capable of defending against anything that could reasonably have jumped into the node. By jumping in anyway, you essentially said "to heck with it, let's crash it and see what advantage we can wring out of it" which is a textbook example of exploitation :)
ROFL yes, lets crash the node so we don't have a chance to attack the pos and kill the titan...
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Southern Paladin
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:58:00 -
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damnit i am still loggin in and my lighter ran out of fuel.... also i just put some pasta on to boil...bet it cooks before jv1v wants to work

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Silent Sam
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:58:00 -
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I am IN! 927 in local though ....
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:58:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth
Kick half your gang and try tommorow.
Would you have done that vs IAC ? No... so why even say it here?
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Bring that many numbers to a fight, on each side is dumb.
Just shows hour EPIC this fight is. Its got to be history making... in one way or another 
One of your Sigs contained inappropriate material for the eve-o forums, please email [email protected] for a explination. - hutch Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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Bellon
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 05:59:00 -
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Edited by: Bellon on 16/02/2007 05:55:28
Originally by: Kirex
Originally by: Ansuru Starlancer
They shouldn't have attacked. We were capable of defending against anything that could reasonably have jumped into the node. By jumping in anyway, you essentially said "to heck with it, let's crash it and see what advantage we can wring out of it" which is a textbook example of exploitation :)
ROFL yes, lets crash the node so we don't have a chance to attack the pos and kill the titan...
And we cant recharge the POS. Eventually itll work and then youll try and kill it.
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Umiji
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: Larshus Magrus CCP: Seriously, grow up. You build this game literally for this epic fight thats taking place... and its absolutely no fun playing this at this point.
Have to agree. While this particular gangbang is exceptionally large, the client/server/whatever is equally unable to cope with engagement levels that were quite foreseeable (300 to 400 players).
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Sun Sliver
Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:01:00 -
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...sigh...I have a feeling one thing we all agree on is node crashes suck. disregarding the flame baits in this thread, both sides wanted a straight up fight more than anything. Whatever ends up happening CCP will get blamed and it is unfortunately squarely placed there 
CCP - you want stress tests, well you got a monster one 
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Klaaswitz
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
Congrats LV and BoB, you've won the biggest morale victory in Eve.
Who do you believe is going to buy that bull****tery?
The elite seem to have ****ed off too much people this time and now they're going to pay for it. It's like you are saying 'oh see that brave dictator, they need masses of people to kill his elite guard in front of his wonderfully defended fortress haha it's good they're with so many because hur you know we would've kicked their arses one vs one against these poor beggars!'
Get real, swallow the consequences like a man would. They're coming for you, it was inevitable.
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Southern Paladin
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:02:00 -
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as long as the dread cyno pilot can get the dreads in to pop that pos 
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Enarc Dobachi
Gallente Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Sliver ...sigh...I have a feeling one thing we all agree on is node crashes suck. disregarding the flame baits in this thread, both sides wanted a straight up fight more than anything. Whatever ends up happening CCP will get blamed and it is unfortunately squarely placed there 
CCP - you want stress tests, well you got a monster one 
Respect. We all want a fight and we are all stuck at the same screen.
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Ska La
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:03:00 -
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You would have thought that CCP would have been prepared for this. it's not like we haven't announced we were going there in force. What did they think would happen?
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Liquid Vision
Caldari Liquid Research
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:04:00 -
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Originally by: Perpello Probably 400+ total LV + allies, 500+ total in the attacking fleet with reports suggesting even more bandwagoneers on their way. NB. Do make certain all you bandwagoneers have standings set to each other, we keep hearing reports of you shooting each other; actually, it's quite amusing, so keep it up!
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:04:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Sliver ...sigh...I have a feeling one thing we all agree on is node crashes suck. disregarding the flame baits in this thread, both sides wanted a straight up fight more than anything. Whatever ends up happening CCP will get blamed and it is unfortunately squarely placed there 
CCP - you want stress tests, well you got a monster one 
Couldnt have put it better myself :)
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omni eye
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:05:00 -
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This is very bad. Hundreds of people can't log in!
I'm talking hundreds of people... people! 
Yes, this could have been a major battle! A huge battle... but it's lag fest instead. Let's see what CCP does about this. Keep this thread smack free meanwhile. I've been sitting on my log-in screen for over an hour, and my alt can log in 8 jumps away easily.
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STLEM2
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:05:00 -
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Edited by: STLEM2 on 16/02/2007 06:01:21
Originally by: Ansuru Starlancer
They shouldn't have attacked. We were capable of defending against anything that could reasonably have jumped into the node. By jumping in anyway, you essentially said "to heck with it, let's crash it and see what advantage we can wring out of it" which is a textbook example of exploitation :)
They shouldn't have defended it. We were capable of destroying anything they could reasonably defend with. By putting that large of a force in defence, you essentially said "ha, die, or crash the node, either way we will win" - SPLOIT!!!!!!!
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Raivi
Explosion Matrix
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:06:00 -
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At this point it's down to a waiting game. Which side will give up and go to bed first?
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Iroshige
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Posted - 2007.02.16 06:07:00 -
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i pay to stay 1h30 in front of a logging character screen..............
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