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Fiesler Allied Logistics Transportation Services	Posted - 2007.02.16 16:31:00 - [1] BOB was one of the most disliked alliances I felt I had ever come across. They filled the forums with useless dribble about themselves being the best, and knocking down anything in their path. Every day, the first page of these forums were only BOB threads, over 1/2 of which were created by a BOB member. Now, I find myself liking BOB. Why? Because they've stopped the useless spamming of themselves in the forums. Instead, it's the mob that's against them that seem to be doing too much chest beating. It's fricking annoying. A D2 member decided to do his own chest beating and gave this statement: Originally by: darkfuntime All kidding aside i think its time to show D2 alittle love for doing what most said couldnt be done.Now the war aint over but i sure dont see bob taking branch or tenal( as said here in the past months)any time soon. And it prompted me to post this. Stop claiming that D2 has done anything significant to BOB yet. The war is young, there is a long road ahead. This entire fiasco reminds me of a city slum gang who decided to take 50 guys to go kick one guy, then boasted on how they are so uber for doing it. Did it really take a lot of effort? I'll stop here, because I know the forum minions will spawn and fill the replies with more chest beating and useless dribble. Just fight the war already.
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.16 16:33:00 - [2] Somebody needs to create an index of DBP and Molle posts for you. Apparently you've forgotten... Shamis Signature quote removed - It was too much for my little virgin eyes. Jacques([email protected])
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.02.16 16:35:00 - [3] So.... you basically dislike people who post on the forums .... self-loathing is a terrible thing
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.16 16:37:00 - [4] fo with the bob threads already!
Artemjus UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.16 16:39:00 - [5] mainly we r not allowed to post this forum, so u r wrong _____________________________ What there will be? Let me find out.
Fiesler Allied Logistics Transportation Services	Posted - 2007.02.16 16:41:00 - [6] Originally by: Artemjus mainly we r not allowed to post this forum, so u r wrong I'm actually starting to like RA because of this. They are competent PVP'ers and are showing so. It's your allies that are screwing it up for you.
Karmae Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.16 16:43:00 - [7] Originally by: Nez Perces So.... you basically dislike people who post on the forums .... self-loathing is a terrible thing I was thinking just the same thing ==================== There is 10 types of people in this world... Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.02.16 16:45:00 - [8] Originally by: Fiesler Originally by: Artemjus mainly we r not allowed to post this forum, so u r wrong I'm actually starting to like RA because of this. They are competent PVP'ers and are showing so. It's your allies that are screwing it up for you. So basically alliance's that don't post on the forums much are in your good books? Well thats good to know.. thanks for sharing this invaluable information with the rest of EVE. Surely this thread has now served its purpose.
Skye Cloud Waylander 01	Posted - 2007.02.16 16:47:00 - [9] Originally by: Fiesler BOB was one of the most disliked alliances I felt I had ever come across. They filled the forums with useless dribble about themselves being the best, and knocking down anything in their path. Every day, the first page of these forums were only BOB threads, over 1/2 of which were created by a BOB member. Now, I find myself liking BOB. Why? Because they've stopped the useless spamming of themselves in the forums. Instead, it's the mob that's against them that seem to be doing too much chest beating. It's fricking annoying. A D2 member decided to do his own chest beating and gave this statement: Originally by: darkfuntime All kidding aside i think its time to show D2 alittle love for doing what most said couldnt be done.Now the war aint over but i sure dont see bob taking branch or tenal( as said here in the past months)any time soon. And it prompted me to post this. Stop claiming that D2 has done anything significant to BOB yet. The war is young, there is a long road ahead. This entire fiasco reminds me of a city slum gang who decided to take 50 guys to go kick one guy, then boasted on how they are so uber for doing it. Did it really take a lot of effort? I'll stop here, because I know the forum minions will spawn and fill the replies with more chest beating and useless dribble. Just fight the war already. Hiya, I really hate to point this out to you but.... The only reason Bob have been told to stop posting is because they want to give the impression EVERYONE else is a big smacktard on the forums. Thereby trying to get some public opinion swaying in their favour after years of destroying it. Now for you to come out and actually be bothered enough to post this type of thing does kinda smell like you may be a Bob alt pushing the point. I do apoligise if you are not a bob alt (im not in game atm so i can't check) but it is exactly the type of "social manipulation" tactic Bob forum use is reknowned for so i hear and read. And tbh i've not seen any real hoard of personal out of game attacks or really nasty posts coming from the anti bob coalition. Yes they are excited at winning and taking stations. But frankly it makes a nice change. Yes they are making alot of posts. But hell there is alot going on in alot of places. Yes there are smacktards on both sides. But just because Bob's have been leashed, doesnt mean thier past forum antics have been forgotton. What do you really want D2 and co to do? Ask EVERYONE in EVERY alliance to stop posting? What's that going to be like? Do you really think this forum is going to be half as interesting if it turns into that fluffy FATAL vs people mutural appreciation session thread? Come on, base your opinions of things not on 4 days worth of forum posts (or lack of on some sides part) but on some real experience of the factions involved. Love and hugs, SC xx
Grim Faust Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.16 16:52:00 - [10] So... BoB brags and brags and brags. You dislike them for it. All of the sudden everyone jumps on the chance to pummel the crap out of them. BoB realizes the severity of the matter and stop , for the most part, bragging. Now you like them? Why? Because they realize they may just have nothing left to brag about? Maybe pity is a better word? It should only be fitting that when people start to take down BoB's seemingly invulnerable dynasty that they have every right to brag as much as BoB did when they had their own victories. Afterall, if BoB were such a big deal then every victory against this entity should be something to cheer over right? Or maybe it's that some people just can't take what they dish out. I'm not taking jabs at anyone either. If BoB, as you even said yourself, consistantly posted and grabbed attention for what they were doing, everyone else has every right to do the same and to say they do not would be quite hypocritical. /shrug __________________________________________________
jeNK Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.16 16:52:00 - [11] there is also a bitter (deliberate) irony in everyone else posting dribble against bob. That irony being it makes a change they have finally stfu.
Hair F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.02.16 16:56:00 - [12] And you needed a new thread to post this instead of replying to the one you're uh replying to? Forum minions indeed
Fiesler Allied Logistics Transportation Services	Posted - 2007.02.16 16:58:00 - [13] Skye Cloud, Thanks for a reply that is actually containing the least amount of flame I've seen in a while. It didn't come off as rant towards me but as the informative post you meant it to be. I did say I find myself liking BOB now, but it's not changed my views on who I wish to win this giant war. I'm on the fence about that one. As far as anything else goes, if I'm giving a representitive example of the public and it's opinion by my own post, then shouldn't that state something to the anti-BOB groups that once again, BOB is winning? At least on the forums once more?
Blue Stratos Amarr BOOM - Gotcha	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:01:00 - [14] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Somebody needs to create an index of DBP and Molle posts for you. Apparently you've forgotten... Shamis Apart from molles thread, how exactlya re bob losing? D2 tooka station, bob took it back in under 24 hours, BOB are not losing and all you idiots who keep shouting BOB WILL DIE need to think, Red wont go after bob, goons mite try it and lets face it, CA are a joke, the old CA would enver ally with red/goons. And D2, bunch of idiots, run to querious bubblke a few gates, cause if bob go after them, they will win You all need to grow up and smell teh real situation, not your biest opinions
Empyre ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:01:00 - [15] Originally by: Nez Perces So basically alliances that don't post on the forums much are in your good books? Well thats good to know.. thanks for sharing this invaluable information with the rest of EVE. Surely this thread has now served its purpose. [edit:latent typo] actually, i'm pretty sure that the OP went a bit further and said it was about the chest beating on the forums.. you conveniently stopped at the forum part. People argue when their personal views are at odds, whereas a debate is a more formal method of analyzing the angles of an issue.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:05:00 - [16] Originally by: Fiesler As far as anything else goes, if I'm giving a representitive example of the public and it's opinion by my own post, then shouldn't that state something to the anti-BOB groups that once again, BOB is winning? At least on the forums once more? Well at least have some intelectual honesty... You are giving your own personal opinion, not a representative example of public opinion.. to do that you would have to conduct an opinion poll. You are taking centre stage on the EVE-O forums to announce that personal opinion. That says to me that you have an over-inflated appreciation of your importance. If everybody creates a thread like yours to post personal opinions .. I assure you it would be infinitely worse than anything you are complaining about.
Fiesler Allied Logistics Transportation Services	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:06:00 - [17] Well..in my haste to post this thread, it seems another BOB thread was in the making. The wheels on the bus go round and round.... Battle reports are great, the best thing, but stop trying to be the best on the forums and give props to your enemy for putting up a fight.
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:07:00 - [18] Originally by: Skye Cloud I really hate to point this out to you but.... The only reason Bob have been told to stop posting is because they want to give the impression EVERYONE else is a big smacktard on the forums. and looking at the amounts of crappy threads.. looks like they were correct _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Aversin Gallente JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:08:00 - [19] Edited by: Aversin on 16/02/2007 17:07:46 Originally by: Fiesler BOB was one of the most disliked alliances I felt I had ever come across. They filled the forums with useless dribble about themselves being the best, and knocking down anything in their path. Every day, the first page of these forums were only BOB threads, over 1/2 of which were created by a BOB member. Now, I find myself liking BOB. Why? Because they've stopped the useless spamming of themselves in the forums. Instead, it's the mob that's against them that seem to be doing too much chest beating. It's fricking annoying. A D2 member decided to do his own chest beating and gave this statement: Originally by: darkfuntime All kidding aside i think its time to show D2 alittle love for doing what most said couldnt be done.Now the war aint over but i sure dont see bob taking branch or tenal( as said here in the past months)any time soon. And it prompted me to post this. Stop claiming that D2 has done anything significant to BOB yet. The war is young, there is a long road ahead. This entire fiasco reminds me of a city slum gang who decided to take 50 guys to go kick one guy, then boasted on how they are so uber for doing it. Did it really take a lot of effort? I'll stop here, because I know the forum minions will spawn and fill the replies with more chest beating and useless dribble. Just fight the war already. Yes, it takes an insane amount of effort to organize fleets, get people setup on time and ready to fight. Regardless of if there was any fighting at all there was an immense effort on the part of the people who organized it. If you have any real knowledge of how an alliance works you would see this. Why do you care anyway, are you participating in the war? edit spelling Originally by:* Razner Cerizo They will never quit. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
prsr Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:08:00 - [20] Edited by: prsr on 16/02/2007 17:07:12 Originally by: Fiesler Every day, the first page of these forums were only BOB threads, over 1/2 of which were created by a BOB member. I'd assume you are talking about the CAOD forum here. The only threads i remember actually being started by Bob members are those of SirMolle when he is trying to get under peoples skin while announcing another victory or campaign. I would like to see you point us to all those Bob threads by Bob members please, should be easy to find if it's half of the threads that were started about Bob as you claim. I can only recall alts, enemies of Bob and random unknown people starting those threads. Oh, and indeed, a big lol for anyone claiming they have made any serious impact on Bob at all for now. -- .sig apathy ftw
Sato Khan Caldari Viking Protectorate	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:11:00 - [21] Edited by: Sato Khan on 16/02/2007 17:08:44 Interesting you should see this as 50 guys picking on one, and conveniently forget the 2-3 years of being told repeatedly that you and the rest of EvE are little more than cowards and fools barring the occasional exception to that rule, and that BoB through superior intelligence, skill, maturity and ability across the board rightfully owns you and everyone else, anywhere at anytime. You like BoB? Tell me what it is to like about Molle posting personal information about a player on public websites as a thinly veiled threat? What is to like about DBP who's reply to every instance of allegation that BoB may not be playing on the straight and narrow during the ASCN war was that the posters were 'cowards, weaklings and fools'. Blacklight seems allright. Carried away occasionally, but rarely does he seem to incite rampant anger at his mockery of the rest of EvE like his companions. What is to like about fact that every conquest BoB has achieved ingame, inspace, with ships and weapons, is closely followed by an intense smear campaign and humiliating accusations that completely shred the integrity of their defeated enemies name, resulting in the complete destruction in every sense of groups and teams and even little virtual social groups as the value of the concept they once rallied around is turned into filth. Do not confuse success with fairness, victory with respect. Every single friendship handed out by BoB as an entity has been meticulously planned, expertly manipulated, and crafted just so. You only have to watch them for a while to understand that everything they do ingame and on these boards is geared towards displaying superiority in every way possible over everyone else in and out of the game. It is the ultimate display of justice, perhaps, if EvE takes apart BoB. People may not like each other very much, may have many problems and issues with each others corporations and alliances and history going back years, but BoB mocks the playerbase of EvE not through their actions, but through their words. Their success is impressive, their skill unrivalled, their ability immense, but their character as a unit and often individually when not dealing with close aquaintances is the worst example of the epitome of semi-intelligent internet culture. The humiliation of others and exhaltation of the self. BoB is the equivelant of that internet poster who knows his subject, and in explaining exhaustivly just how incredibly wrong you are, insults your intelligence, nation, familly, upbringing and attempt to even discuss a topic in the most vile and putrid of manner. Everyone knows this. EvE can silence them by beating them. The reason BoB doesnt post much right now is rather simple. Their attitude towards the rest of EvE will only result in them stirring up even more anger and resentment, and causing the bandwagon to grow even quicker. It is damage limitation, that is why they are silent. Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Somebody needs to create an index of DBP and Molle posts for you. Apparently you've forgotten... Shamis Precisely.
Mariko San Saints Surrounded	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:13:00 - [22] Its ok you can go back to hating them again - http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=477257 They're back..... . Question: if CCP new about the Dev spawned BoB BPO's last summer why were they not removed last summer?
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:13:00 - [23] Edited by: Nez Perces on 16/02/2007 17:17:11 Originally by: Empyre Originally by: Nez Perces So basically alliances that don't post on the forums much are in your good books? Well thats good to know.. thanks for sharing this invaluable information with the rest of EVE. Surely this thread has now served its purpose. [edit:latent typo] actually, i'm pretty sure that the OP went a bit further and said it was about the chest beating on the forums.. you conveniently stopped at the forum part. I distilled the essence of what she was saying into digestible soundbites.... .. if you read through the OP carefully you will find that the OP's argument revolves around one crucial factor. The OP used to dislike BoB.. BoB doesn't post anymore.. now she likes them. The coalition is posting a lot.. now she dislikes them. Its pretty simple really.... oh and pointless. [edit:typo :/]
Masta Killa BURN EDEN GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:16:00 - [24] Originally by: Fiesler This entire fiasco reminds me of a city slum gang who decided to take 50 guys to go kick one guy, then boasted on how they are so uber for doing it. Did it really take a lot of effort? You act as if Bob alliance is fighting this war alone, but sadly that's not the case. They have a pile of slave alliances fighting their wars for them and you wonder -why- a group of alliances needs to group together to take down this hulking blob of slavers and slaves. And you're trying to say Bob has never brought "50 guys" to stomp 1 little alliance? What about the Trust outpost in EC-P8R? What about the original G alliance wars? What about Stain? What about the querious wars? What about fountain? I don't even usually follow alliance wars, anyone who knows anything about Eve politics could probably double my list. Both them and you have a cowardly mentality of how fighting should be done. You think it's cool when a pile of corps and alliances stomp 1 alliance while I pride myself in being in 1 of the very few corps in Eve that can fight so outnumbered that no one else will touch 90% of our fights. Bob alliance fight in 100 vs 100 fights, 300 vs 100 fights and whatnot, while I think the ultimate test is to fight 10 (maybe 6 bs and 4 alts = 6 men) against 20, 30, 40 or 50 people AND win. That is why I hate their alliance and all their members. None of them could put together a small unit (3-4 guys?) and slaughter real alliances and it's pathetic.
Empyre ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:17:00 - [25] Originally by: Nez Perces If everybody creates a thread like yours to post personal opinions .. I assure you it would be infinitely worse than anything you are complaining about. that won't stop as long as there are folks that care more about making themselves seen than what they are acutally saying.. and the world is full of them. personally, i cannot imagine what kind of thrill you could get off reading a thread then posting the same crap with a slightly different subject line.. but it seems to be getting a lot of people off.. maybe they just like to hear themselves talk.. er type.. er see.. bah forget it. People argue when their personal views are at odds, whereas a debate is a more formal method of analyzing the angles of an issue.
thetwilitehour Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:19:00 - [26] Originally by: Fiesler And it prompted me to post this. Stop claiming that D2 has done anything significant to BOB yet. The war is young, there is a long road ahead. This post does not represent the opinion of D2 as an alliance, it was simply one single member, who, in obviously high spirits was celebrating. The war will be long, and it will be hard, and it will not be a smooth path. We will fight the war in the game, not on the forums. I can appreciate your viewpoint, I wasnt particularily enamored of that post myself, but I think its fair to say it was made by one member, and one member only, and that member is not a diplomat nor a member of our High Command. (Incidentally I am also neither a diplomat nor a member of HC)
snerdly	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:19:00 - [27] Originally by: Blue Stratos stuff I believe you're the one who's not thinking. BoB is strong, BoB is good at what they do. BoB could single-handedly defeat any ONE alliance in the game. But they are far from strong enough to defeat them all. Despite your dismissal of the southern power bloc, they are skilled, numerous, and determined. BoB is by no means guaranteed to win this war. Also, take that FECKING plagarized sig off, you lamer.
Evil D4rk Shihan.	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:33:00 - [28] DB at his ironic best. Originally by: DB Preacher on FA Like the PA before you, the arrogance of your alliance will be your undoing. As long as you continue to fuel our hatred you will see nothing but continued aggressions against your pitiful alliance. Continue to blow hot air onto the forums all you wish. We will simply continue to remove you from your ships. One way or another. dbp This is my new main.
Luthien Firefoot Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:37:00 - [29] Originally by: Fiesler BOB was one of the most disliked alliances I felt I had ever come across. They filled the forums with useless dribble about themselves being the best, and knocking down anything in their path. Every day, the first page of these forums were only BOB threads, over 1/2 of which were created by a BOB member. Now, I find myself liking BOB. Why? Because they've stopped the useless spamming of themselves in the forums. Instead, it's the mob that's against them that seem to be doing too much chest beating. It's fricking annoying. A D2 member decided to do his own chest beating and gave this statement: Originally by: darkfuntime All kidding aside i think its time to show D2 alittle love for doing what most said couldnt be done.Now the war aint over but i sure dont see bob taking branch or tenal( as said here in the past months)any time soon. And it prompted me to post this. Stop claiming that D2 has done anything significant to BOB yet. The war is young, there is a long road ahead. This entire fiasco reminds me of a city slum gang who decided to take 50 guys to go kick one guy, then boasted on how they are so uber for doing it. Did it really take a lot of effort? I'll stop here, because I know the forum minions will spawn and fill the replies with more chest beating and useless dribble. Just fight the war already. I have soemthing in common with you: I've changed my mind also: I used to like you, before I had ever heard of you I really thought you were nice. Now that I've seen how much diarrhoea your keyboard produces, I think you're a moron, you have the IQ of a piece of toast and should immediately throw yourself in the nearest ocean and be reunited with the plankton that spawned you.
Shmachura School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.02.16 17:42:00 - [30] Hey thanks for your opinion, brah. Any other things we need to know whether you like or not? Don't leave us hanging.

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