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Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
3
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Posted - 2011.12.18 04:58:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:Nothing against you personally the EVE forum 'presence' is just a little tiresome with it's GTFO and toughen up attitude. FFS this is a GAME, somepeople need to get over there 'I'm all that cos I do BAD things' attitude it's childish and make's a lot of the people round here look like complete idiots IMO (and there most likely very intelligent people). Did it ever occur to you that people on the forum say HTFU etc because they are the ones who realise it is just a game? It's the carebears who think in game actions are suprsrsbsns.
Yes man whatever you say, justify your aggressive attitude anyway it pleases you, frankly I couldn't care less.
Also calling people carebears and typing ununderstandable nonsence does kinda re-enforce my point I feel. As you obviously missed it first time round I feel a reiteration is probably futile.
Fly Free Bro
And remeber your only as mad as you wannabe 
YOU MUST THINK FIRST |
Selinate
166
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Posted - 2011.12.18 05:05:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:Nothing against you personally the EVE forum 'presence' is just a little tiresome with it's GTFO and toughen up attitude. FFS this is a GAME, somepeople need to get over there 'I'm all that cos I do BAD things' attitude it's childish and make's a lot of the people round here look like complete idiots IMO (and there most likely very intelligent people). Did it ever occur to you that people on the forum say HTFU etc because they are the ones who realise it is just a game? It's the carebears who think in game actions are suprsrsbsns.
The ones that say that typically say it until they get scammed themselves out of all their isk and start bitching like a small dog that just got kicked.... |
Renturu
Tribal Spirit
Tribal Unity Alliance
8
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Posted - 2011.12.18 05:26:00 -
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I should clarify my HTFU comment. What I mean is. Ninja Salvaging is and will happen as long as there is a desire for it. Rather it being, taking salvage for personal profit (meh) or holding a mission hostage. I prefer the method of screwing up a mission Bot by taking the objective just to watch it go batshit crazy (lolz).
Either way... Ninja salvaging is here to stay just as suicide ganking. The only thing you can do, rather than raging here in the forums (DONT FEED THE TROLLS), is to ASK for advice.
There are many ways to deal with the issue. Salvage as you go, group run, blue tag it so they can just have it... or my personal fav..
I fit a remote repper and RR them when they get into theater. then, they are fair game to the NPCs. esp some LVL4s where you get Web'd/Scramm'd.
TL;DR
Learn from others and your experiences! It's a game, have fun!!! Shoot, even try it out yourself. You may have a new career ahead of you. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
60
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Posted - 2011.12.18 05:33:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Yes man whatever you say, justify your aggressive attitude anyway it pleases you, frankly I couldn't care less. Also calling people carebears and typing ununderstandable nonsence does kinda re-enforce my point I feel. As you obviously missed it first time round I feel a reiteration is probably futile. Fly Free Bro And remeber your only as mad as you wannabe Even with all these words, you have failed to actually say anything...
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
60
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Posted - 2011.12.18 05:33:00 -
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Selinate wrote:The ones that say that typically say it until they get scammed themselves out of all their isk and start bitching like a small dog that just got kicked.... And the examples you are going to cite to back up this assertion are.....
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Selinate
166
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Posted - 2011.12.18 05:35:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Selinate wrote:The ones that say that typically say it until they get scammed themselves out of all their isk and start bitching like a small dog that just got kicked.... And the examples you are going to cite to back up this assertion are.....
Go ahead and try and back your assertions up with proof also.
No? Yeah, that's what I thought... |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
3
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Posted - 2011.12.18 05:52:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:Yes man whatever you say, justify your aggressive attitude anyway it pleases you, frankly I couldn't care less. Also calling people carebears and typing ununderstandable nonsence does kinda re-enforce my point I feel. As you obviously missed it first time round I feel a reiteration is probably futile. Fly Free Bro And remeber your only as mad as you wannabe Even with all these words, you have failed to actually say anything...
I've said what I feel I needed to say thanks, should it fall on deaf ears, such is life 
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Opertone
Signal 7
The Jagged Alliance
59
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Posted - 2011.12.18 07:10:00 -
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I am a good guy - I did ninja salvaging, ninja looting, even ninja podding
It may be not very profitable at times, but it sure is exciting to scan down a player and pick up some wrecks. Like jackals pick up left overs in wildlife. It is very cool because you start thinking of profit that you make, how easy it is to get extra 1-3 million with a Ninja ship.
No, you don't want to harm the mission runner, but such is life who claims the loot container first is the owner. I would not ruin mission objectives, or somehow aggress the pilot. Just take my slice of his profits.
Basically, I'd ninja salvage regardless of mission or not. I travel through low sec and null entrance to find left over tech 2 wrecks for salvaging. It thrills me. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2106
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Posted - 2011.12.18 07:30:00 -
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OP: The salvage isn't yours GÇö if you want it, you have to earn it. If someone else gets to it first, they haven't stolen anything, they've simply earned it, and you haven't. The reason you're not getting any aggro timers or kill rights or anything is because no-one has done anything illegal. Being faster than you is not a crime, and that's all it is: you're competing to be the fastest guy to get to the wreck, and you just lost.
Also, unless you do your L4s rather slowly, going back for salvage is a loss proposition: you miss out on income by wasting time on worthless (or at least worth-less) scraps rather than going for a new mission.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
290
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Posted - 2011.12.18 08:55:00 -
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The funny part about idiots complaining about this is,
that i have never get complaints for shooting their ships ...
... only for taking their salvage.
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Cyprus Black
Tears of Redemption
NEM3SIS.
81
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Posted - 2011.12.18 09:24:00 -
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Tarn Kugisa wrote:Why do you take salvage from missions, taking income from people?
What you do is immoral and low.
You should have kill rights on people that take salvage from wrecks you or your corp owns because it is the same as taking the loot out of the wreck, but using a module to do it. Well see, there's your problem.
Wrecks aren't owned by anyone and are considered free-for-all and first come first serve. Concord places no value in floating debris and thus does not deem it theft. Those game mechanics are intended to be the way they are by the devs as they've personally stated numerous times on the forums.
/thread
I am neither fanboy nor flamer. I am logic, dispassionate and cruel. |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
291
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Posted - 2011.12.18 09:54:00 -
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Cyprus Black wrote:Tarn Kugisa wrote:Why do you take salvage from missions, taking income from people?
What you do is immoral and low.
You should have kill rights on people that take salvage from wrecks you or your corp owns because it is the same as taking the loot out of the wreck, but using a module to do it. Well see, there's your problem. Wrecks aren't owned by anyone and are considered free-for-all and first come first serve. Concord places no value in floating debris and thus does not deem it theft. Those game mechanics are intended to be the way they are by the devs as they've personally stated numerous times on the forums. /thread
Fact.
/thread
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
254
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Posted - 2011.12.18 10:06:00 -
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OP, if you don't like it, bring a friend to salvage for you and work out how much "income" you are willing to share, or do it yourself.
When I mission I bring my Noctis alt and park it at/near the mission. Ninja salvagers show up and leave very quickly when they realize they can't compete. In fact the only ones who bother are the ones who are not after salvage but rather trying to get me to attack them so the rest of their corp can gank me.
TL;DR: shut up and play EVE properly. |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
250
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Posted - 2011.12.18 10:37:00 -
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Oh Jesus Fing Christ! Look, ninjaing has been nerfed to hell with the noctis and it's what....60km tractors now? If you're losing your loot to ninjas I'd say you're doing it wrong. HTFU and grow a pair.
We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Kha'Vorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.18 11:16:00 -
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So I come back to eve, to find, still, people moaning and crying over this? Seriously?
omg.
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Seleia O'Sinnor
Arklight Project
Fade 2 Black
82
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Posted - 2011.12.18 11:41:00 -
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Shoot the wrecks when they approach, they will leave you sooner or later. I've experienced this both ways. And don't run missions in Motsu or other major mission hubs.
Eve community: An angry mob of bright people hunting witches, more torches, more hay forks, growing and growing. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed
RED.Legion
154
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Posted - 2011.12.18 11:44:00 -
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Tarn Kugisa wrote:Why do you take salvage from missions, taking income from people?
What you do is immoral and low.
You should have kill rights on people that take salvage from wrecks you or your corp owns because it is the same as taking the loot out of the wreck, but using a module to do it.
This would improve the lives of 90% of Ninja salvagers.
More time spent flashy red to people means more people will take the bait and means more Marauders to ransom. |
Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
Care Factor
39
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Posted - 2011.12.18 12:07:00 -
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Now c'mon... Really?
Now that there quality of agents is removed and you can use ANY l4 agents for the same effect, this problem should really be practically non-existant. Just salvage as you go or if you can't do that - just warp out when a salvager comes in - ther's a good chance the rats in a l4 will aplha him.
"Have you had your morning coffee?" -> the Coffee Lovers Brewing Club is recruiting! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=363976#post363976 |
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
56
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Posted - 2011.12.18 12:08:00 -
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Immoral, in EVE.
Need Researched BPO's? Be it drones, ammo, charges, you name it, visit my forum store now!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524 |
Halcyon Ingenium
Warm Holes
68
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Posted - 2011.12.18 12:23:00 -
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Kha'Vorn wrote:So I come back to eve, to find, still, people moaning and crying over this? Seriously?
omg.
The same old whine is still old, but new subscribers full of butt-hurt log on everyday.
That which always was, and is, and will be everlasting fire,
the same for all, the cosmos, made neither by god nor man,
replenishes in measure as it burns away. -Heraclitus |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
12
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Posted - 2011.12.18 12:37:00 -
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I just wish my "visitors" would actually salvage.
Usually they only go flashy and soon leave once I blue the wrecks.....
Unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
reaver2145
shot from the dark
Mortal Destruction
0
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Posted - 2011.12.18 13:15:00 -
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Thank you for posting this
A representative of ours will be joining your missions soon to help collect your salvage for you
100% salvage back guaranteed on payment of isk |
Riedle
Paradox Collective
35
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Posted - 2011.12.18 13:37:00 -
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Quote:Or they use an alt and screw over people who work for their money
welcome to EVE
HTFU |
Riedle
Paradox Collective
35
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Posted - 2011.12.18 13:44:00 -
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Quote:ununderstandable nonsence
lol |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
254
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Posted - 2011.12.18 13:47:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:60km tractors now?
No, 80km :)
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2011.12.18 14:27:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Selinate wrote:The ones that say that typically say it until they get scammed themselves out of all their isk and start bitching like a small dog that just got kicked.... And the examples you are going to cite to back up this assertion are..... Go ahead and try and back your assertions up with proof also. No? Yeah, that's what I thought... Just read the forum. You'll come across plenty of "stop crying over internet pixels posts".
I've never seen a "I used to to love risk but now I want it removed from the game" post.
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
252
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Posted - 2011.12.18 15:11:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:60km tractors now? No, 80km :)
It's just pathetically sad that people are still complaining about ninjas when the noctis can reach the entire breathe of the field without moving.
We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Orlacc
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2011.12.18 15:55:00 -
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Tarn Kugisa wrote:Why do you take salvage from missions, taking income from people?
What you do is immoral and low.
You should have kill rights on people that take salvage from wrecks you or your corp owns because it is the same as taking the loot out of the wreck, but using a module to do it.
Wow! I never heard this before!
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Qarth
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.18 15:57:00 -
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Tarn Kugisa wrote:Why do you take salvage from missions, taking income from people?
What you do is immoral and low.
You should have kill rights on people that take salvage from wrecks you or your corp owns because it is the same as taking the loot out of the wreck, but using a module to do it.
Not this topic again. Dear God stop beating the horse already. |
Blnukem 192
Cauldron-Born Legion
The Cauldron-Born
8
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Posted - 2011.12.18 17:45:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:60km tractors now? No, 80km :)
Actually it can go up to 90km+ with the new T2 tractor beams. |
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