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Zeoliter
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:24:00 -
[31]
WTB: Set of Balls
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Ennora
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:24:00 -
[32]
It seems to me that this is the second time BoD has used this tactic. I wonder if they will ever play fair....
It would be nice to have inside advice on cheap tricks
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searchi
tiberian suns
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:24:00 -
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the op is alittle naive maybe. bob will do ANYTHING to win.
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Chin'Mei
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:25:00 -
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When I've read HOW that titan was destroyed I felt strange. From one side it was good to know that accusation of exploiting was inaccurate, on the other hand though it wasn't much better either. Using game mechanics this way with a traitor to make this possible is, at least, lame. It may be not against game rules, it may be not prohibited. But it is WE who build the atmosphere in which we will play. Methods like this won't make it better. Where's the sportsmanship? Where's the spirit of taking fun from the GAME, not from winning it all cost?
CCP shouldn't do anything with that. It is a players who should react. Either by showing You can win a war without that kind of cheap tactics or by using them as well, thus lowering Yourself to opponent's level and showing that victory is more important than sportsmanship for You as well. And ruining the game, as it will become common.
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Liabrath
Gallente Argent Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:25:00 -
[35]
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 17/02/2007 11:12:00
Originally by: Edde Bebbi
Originally by: Kmacross -
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We didn't exploited there, we just brought a big fleet to be sure to kill some titans, it's not hard to understand that
It's not our fault that the servers can't handle that. As long we know there are several titans in a system, i mean it's logical to bring a BIG fleet, since you never know when you get dd'ed.
Actually, you intentionally caused a node crash, you know the servers cant help that yet encouraging your whole alliance and all the friends you can to intentionally crash it. Isn't that actually against game play? Intentionally causing the game to become unplayable for other people....*whistle* === === === === === If I win an auction, please send me a contract link by EvE mail. |
ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:26:00 -
[36]
Props to BoB, boo to Eve realy. (I realy believe it was a legit kill)
Just because the game's problems affect us all, doesn't mean we have to like the direction the game is at/heading to. If nothing is said then nothing will happen.
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Archonon
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:27:00 -
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Remove time aggro, i'm not sure that isn't a break of player's rights - be obliged to play eve during 20 min and can't stop to play when you want. _______________________
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Darken Two
Gallente Hybonashi Industries Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Liabrath
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 17/02/2007 11:12:00
Originally by: Edde Bebbi
Originally by: Kmacross -
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We didn't exploited there, we just brought a big fleet to be sure to kill some titans, it's not hard to understand that
It's not our fault that the servers can't handle that. As long we know there are several titans in a system, i mean it's logical to bring a BIG fleet, since you never know when you get dd'ed.
Actually, you intentionally caused a node crash, you know the servers cant help that yet encouraging your whole alliance and all the friends you can to intentionally crash it. Isn't that actually against game play? Intentionally causing the game to become unplayable for other people....*whistle*
Perhaps you should have some evidence to back you up before using the word "Intentionally", repeatedly in a sentence accusing someone of breaking the EULA.
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Jouno
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Jouno on 17/02/2007 11:27:39 Chouldent agree more with the op. This game is going in the wrong direction imho
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Liabrath
Gallente Argent Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Archonon Remove time aggro, i'm not sure that isn't a break of player's rights - be obliged to play eve during 20 min and can't stop to play when you want.
Player rights?? LMAO thats a good one === === === === === If I win an auction, please send me a contract link by EvE mail. |
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crudhunch
Templars of Space CORE.
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: pshepherd Tell me, if D2 found a BoB titan while it was logged off, would you all just warp off and leave it?
Both sides plan on winning this war, and titans can swing fleet battles very easily.
You totally avoided 90% of what he is upset about. The titan wasnĘt just found logged off. The tactics used to make sure he could be killed once he logged out of the game is what most people think is cowardly play. This is also why many think EVE is somewhat flawed it that it is perfectly acceptable, even encouraged by many to use such tactics on a player in a manor the game was not intended for the ag to work on logging off. He wasnĘt logging to avoid a fight.
And to the other poster who said it was a good fight. lol. was it really now? :)
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Ennora
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Liabrath
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 17/02/2007 11:12:00
Originally by: Edde Bebbi
Originally by: Kmacross -
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We didn't exploited there, we just brought a big fleet to be sure to kill some titans, it's not hard to understand that
It's not our fault that the servers can't handle that. As long we know there are several titans in a system, i mean it's logical to bring a BIG fleet, since you never know when you get dd'ed.
Actually, you intentionally caused a node crash, you know the servers cant help that yet encouraging your whole alliance and all the friends you can to intentionally crash it. Isn't that actually against game play? Intentionally causing the game to become unplayable for other people....*whistle*
UUUMMM!!! Correct me if I'm wrong, but dont node crashes affect BOTH fleets????? HOW can a node crash ONLY affect the DEFENDING fleet? please give technical data to support this phenomina
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LordChaos
Amarr Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:32:00 -
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its funny how all these people saying give me your stuff.
if this was your titan and happened to u , u would be crying like a baby
and if this had happened to BoD they would get their titan back cause CCP loves em :)
before you post guys think if you where in their place
as for BoB congrats on the kill :) u guys still amaze me with the will to win at any cost. even if it makes you look bad.
have fun with winning eve contest :) i bet thats your dream come true .
The Master Of Chaos Celes Celes KB |
Tiwaz
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:32:00 -
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Allways the dirty trick, aint it bob. Allway the little bug, the exploit, a little spy. Aint it lovely that ccp is in ur little bed aswell, with some good old fasion cheating. The good ppl from hekla should be carefull who they keep supporting.
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BoB FanGirl
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:33:00 -
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA CRY SOME MORE :D
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Lilyeth
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kmacross Dont tell me using a spy to do aggro on the titan isnt cheating, from my pov it is and u guys should get a propper punishment!
Crashing a node on purpose in order to kill a baby titan is a proper way to do it and you were all cheering on it, right? Thats so much stupidity, that I can only give you one advise:
Dont breed.
"My Cheapness Sells" - Caritew, Chinafarmer |
Virida
Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:34:00 -
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Titans is meant to be fun, baseships, logistics masterstrokes, not epical "i win" buttons who only can be taken down by infiltration and backstabbing. If that is what titans is, why is they in the game? Now, the only way to attack a titan power is to use 10% of the online population to take the system, is that what eve is supposed to be?
I dont blaim anyone for using 1/10th of the online ppl to take a system, or bob for using corp spies with stealth ships to assasinate a titan, that is legal, but it dont make the game better, only appear less appealing when one realize how much is really needed. And, when LV is dead, and ra goon, ca and tnt, d2, mm start pummel bob, is bob having fun? the coalition of coalitions would pummel down every node they fight in, CCP could just watch their starmap die one after one, then sit and repair the nodes to let ppl fight. Is this what titans is to be?
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NightmareX
Caldari Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Edde Bebbi Directors in VOTF who are now leaving the corp claim otherwise. Just because you as a grunt wernt told the plan was to nodecrash the defending fleet doesnt mean it wasnt the plan, because after all, you are just a no-body carebear who gets podded by his corpmates for being a lazy waste of space.
We didn't got told to create a node crash, we was told to kill LV and bring ships.
And i'm still npcing here in CA, do i get killed by corp mates for that?
I bring money to the corp by doing that when i can npc.
And i'm getting more isk by doing that to so i can get good mods to my ship so i can pwn your little noob as more.
Infinitus Odium - We Are The Bringers Of Hatred |
Nymos
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:34:00 -
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well, i agree to a certain extent with the OP, but let's face it: how can metagaming be eliminated? how can you make sure your corp mate is not some ass hat that offlines all your pos's while you're asleep? or gives out intel or does what happened to your titan. it's so easy to just buy a character with good corp history, put it in some alliance and spy, betray and whatever.
i found it quite ridiculous how many ISS with pos roles suddenly showed up to offline the pos's for some isk. heck they had even done it just to maybe be mentioned in some war report. that's not roleplaying a traitor, evildoer, scum, whatever you call it. it's just a lack of balls. they dont need to be made of steel or brass, even plush ones would help for a start i guess.
but then there is the prisoner's dilemma too. if you dont do it others will. there will always be clowns that abuse and bend the rules or just avoid them altogether.
so what's the cause of it? the influx of wow-brainwashed fools? or us thinking of "the good times" like 80 years old? yea i'm sure the beta was when the game was perfect.
the social aspect is supposed to be a part that defines eve. not solo your way to end game content like in other mmogs. but since there is no way to protect yourself from this kind of crap there's just accept this BS or dont log on. i'm sorry m8 :-( --
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Capt Locust
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kmacross Hi,
iam still ****ed also after overslept a night. the thing what happened yesterday with the D2 titan is just one big setp into the wrong direction.As far as i understand a titan is not meant to kill before he fired his ultimate weapon (doomsday), than his cap will be down and he is free to kill for some time.
Now it comes to the point, what the hell are ppl doing ? Titan got aggroed by a spy, and his timer was running so bob was able to kill it !!!!
I tought u guys were they ultimate pvpers ;), fighting fair and NOT using this kinda lame and a unrespectful thing (it isnt a tactic). Losing a titan would be no problem if it had been in a proper way, but do u guys really think this was a good kill?
Just a shame that so many guys think it was. Personally i like to pvp in so many games like rocket arena, unreal tournament, battlefield, warhammer40k, and also in eve. But lately it is more essential to know the bugs,exploits and so on in eve to win without any heavy losses. If it goes further that way iam going to stop palying eve, cause iam not willing to pay for a game were honor and fairness got lost.Of course u will find everywhere cheaters, but hey they are only like 13 years old.
Dont tell me using a spy to do aggro on the titan isnt cheating, from my pov it is and u guys should get a propper punishment! Just waiting for all those forum warriors to respond on this post ....
And then this passive targeter thing (targeting enemies while they in pos), and also shooting in them was possible while they been in the pos (but only when pw from pos is not active) . If ppl using bugs, exploits they have to be banned for some time or whatever,but nothing happened.Still to remind, U and I paying for this nonsense.
Also i personally lost faith in ccp, just remember the t2 bpo thing spawing in bobs hangar. Also bob always knows the most useful bugs ingame and using them of course, just wondering from whom they got the information about it ;)
U need to know them also if u want to fight equally, but u dont
Well there was a time when i started playing this game and tought "What a wonderful game with all those features". Now it is more like "Should i stop playing eve and play something else ?"
I have to agree with you there, thats why after 3 years ive cancelled my accounts, the blatant cheating/favoritism/bias towards bOD is a disgrace, as is the fact this game fails/failed to deliver its promise of large scale fights, after 3 years of waiting for lag free/luck free combat it seems to me that it will never happen.
So prehaps this is not all bod's fault, they are only doing what this buggy laggy game will allow, god forbid they get a force large enough to fight a titan as this would crash the node anyway.
goodbye and good riddance (to the game) its a shame what its become.
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MacDuncan
Minmatar Unknown Society
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:36:00 -
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An honest question to all ppl thinking that it was a "valid" tactic:
To intentional wait and set up a plan for a person to go OFFLINE and use an INGAME mechanism in an ONLINE game and kill his ship?
Please tell me: Wtf in that sentence doesn't sound right?? Which one of these words doesn't fit right together in one sentence?
This imho clearly indicates the direction in which the so called "highend content" is proceeding.
Go ahead, move further on, play "your game", i'll play mine... --
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Helina Malinos
Caldari Euro Traders
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:36:00 -
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To the narrow minded OP.
Read good and then re-think.
1st, untill they remove remote DD threw a cyno we will never see your Titan (past tence now) so enmploying a tatic using game mechanics open to everyone is fair enough.
2nd, you claim BoB spawned BPOs but you are encluding a lot of people there so shut up with the stuff, I know of a corp thats blue to you that has got a capital ship back when he should not have and I know he has some affiliation to CCP, well at least I am 90% sure. I don't go crying a river like you.
3rd, D2 used illigal methods to route out spies in there alliance and should be locked up for that but the EVE community seems to discount this and focus on a single alliance and throw alligations there way without proof.
4th, The tatic of using a spy was employed using a smart bomb and the Screen shots clearly show this, your titan was out side the shield so was agroed. he should have warped to a safe, cloaked and waited there for 20 mins out of fang, this he failed to do so lost his ship.
5th, D2 are scared to fight toe to toe as sending in 20+ capital ships to a fleet of similar size and not seiging them is insane, no wonder you lost 2 and killed none.
If you are going to quit, just go. I don't care about people that don't sleep over a game and TBH I don't even want your stuff as if you use t2 cap rechargers on your titan I dread to think what you have on the rest of your ships.
Hell I could go on as your trying to insite contempt within the EVE community is sickning, get over it or go but stop trying to make everyone else belive your lies.
D2 is shaping up just the same as Cyvok.
If you don't like the game, go play WoW.
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Swift Wind
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: crudhunch
Originally by: pshepherd Tell me, if D2 found a BoB titan while it was logged off, would you all just warp off and leave it?
Both sides plan on winning this war, and titans can swing fleet battles very easily.
You totally avoided 90% of what he is upset about. The titan wasnĘt just found logged off. The tactics used to make sure he could be killed once he logged out of the game is what most people think is cowardly play. This is also why many think EVE is somewhat flawed it that it is perfectly acceptable, even encouraged by many to use such tactics on a player in a manor the game was not intended for the ag to work on logging off. He wasnĘt logging to avoid a fight.
/signed - exactly how I feel....
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Swift Wind
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:38:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Swift Wind on 17/02/2007 11:35:00
Originally by: Lilyeth
Originally by: Kmacross Dont tell me using a spy to do aggro on the titan isnt cheating, from my pov it is and u guys should get a propper punishment!
Crashing a node on purpose in order to kill a baby titan is a proper way to do it and you were all cheering on it, right?
so sick of that line... proof or STFU!
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Kam SingDu'k
Singularity.
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:42:00 -
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I know it might sound really obvious but this titan loss could have been prevented by CCP implementing the aggro timer indication properly. You know the agression counter you get in low sec? why is it that CCP couldnt have put this into play in 0.0? what would have happened was that the covert ops pilot would have set off the aggro timer, the titan pilot would see this on the top left corner of the screen, said oh crap, waited for that time to go before logging off. No more complaints about attempts at exploits because CCP have put an indicator on your screen.
Or is that too hard for ccp to figure?
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thoth foc
Elcyion Lacar
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:43:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Kmacross Hi,
iam still ****ed also after overslept a night. the thing what happened yesterday with the D2 titan is just one big setp into the wrong direction.As far as i understand a titan is not meant to kill before he fired his ultimate weapon (doomsday), than his cap will be down and he is free to kill for some time.
Now it comes to the point, what the hell are ppl doing ? Titan got aggroed by a spy, and his timer was running so bob was able to kill it !!!!
I tought u guys were they ultimate pvpers ;), fighting fair and NOT using this kinda lame and a unrespectful thing (it isnt a tactic). Losing a titan would be no problem if it had been in a proper way, but do u guys really think this was a good kill?
Just a shame that so many guys think it was. Personally i like to pvp in so many games like rocket arena, unreal tournament, battlefield, warhammer40k, and also in eve. But lately it is more essential to know the bugs,exploits and so on in eve to win without any heavy losses. If it goes further that way iam going to stop palying eve, cause iam not willing to pay for a game were honor and fairness got lost.Of course u will find everywhere cheaters, but hey they are only like 13 years old.
Dont tell me using a spy to do aggro on the titan isnt cheating, from my pov it is and u guys should get a propper punishment! Just waiting for all those forum warriors to respond on this post ....
And then this passive targeter thing (targeting enemies while they in pos), and also shooting in them was possible while they been in the pos (but only when pw from pos is not active) . If ppl using bugs, exploits they have to be banned for some time or whatever,but nothing happened.Still to remind, U and I paying for this nonsense.
Also i personally lost faith in ccp, just remember the t2 bpo thing spawing in bobs hangar. Also bob always knows the most useful bugs ingame and using them of course, just wondering from whom they got the information about it ;)
U need to know them also if u want to fight equally, but u dont
Well there was a time when i started playing this game and tought "What a wonderful game with all those features". Now it is more like "Should i stop playing eve and play something else ?"
tbh.. crying at bob for these but still allying with other alliances that do the same doesnt really win much of a moral victory IMO.. u get the usual BOB fanbois out cheering you, but mhm.. who'd actually want them _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB) |
Tarri
Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: raVn666 signed
to all you powergamers out there , your about to ruin a damn good game with your cheatings , exploits and determination to win with whatever means it takes
ccp, you should take this serious
sad..
/signed
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Edde Bebbi
Amarr The Griffin
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:44:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Liabrath
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 17/02/2007 11:12:00
Originally by: Edde Bebbi
Originally by: Kmacross -
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We didn't exploited there, we just brought a big fleet to be sure to kill some titans, it's not hard to understand that
It's not our fault that the servers can't handle that. As long we know there are several titans in a system, i mean it's logical to bring a BIG fleet, since you never know when you get dd'ed.
Actually, you intentionally caused a node crash, you know the servers cant help that yet encouraging your whole alliance and all the friends you can to intentionally crash it. Isn't that actually against game play? Intentionally causing the game to become unplayable for other people....*whistle*
Perhaps you should have some evidence to back you up before using the word "Intentionally", repeatedly in a sentence accusing someone of breaking the EULA.
There is plenty of evidence, however until the petition is settled you wont be seeing it on the forums
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LordChaos
Amarr Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:45:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Helina Malinos To the narrow minded OP.
Read good and then re-think.
1st, untill they remove remote DD threw a cyno we will never see your Titan (past tence now) so enmploying a tatic using game mechanics open to everyone is fair enough.
2nd, you claim BoB spawned BPOs but you are encluding a lot of people there so shut up with the stuff, I know of a corp thats blue to you that has got a capital ship back when he should not have and I know he has some affiliation to CCP, well at least I am 90% sure. I don't go crying a river like you.
3rd, D2 used illigal methods to route out spies in there alliance and should be locked up for that but the EVE community seems to discount this and focus on a single alliance and throw alligations there way without proof.
4th, The tatic of using a spy was employed using a smart bomb and the Screen shots clearly show this, your titan was out side the shield so was agroed. he should have warped to a safe, cloaked and waited there for 20 mins out of fang, this he failed to do so lost his ship.
5th, D2 are scared to fight toe to toe as sending in 20+ capital ships to a fleet of similar size and not seiging them is insane, no wonder you lost 2 and killed none.
If you are going to quit, just go. I don't care about people that don't sleep over a game and TBH I don't even want your stuff as if you use t2 cap rechargers on your titan I dread to think what you have on the rest of your ships.
Hell I could go on as your trying to insite contempt within the EVE community is sickning, get over it or go but stop trying to make everyone else belive your lies.
D2 is shaping up just the same as Cyvok.
If you don't like the game, go play WoW.
now this is a person that we all should ignore :) The Master Of Chaos Celes Celes KB |
Shizuko
Caldari E X O D U S
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Posted - 2007.02.17 11:48:00 -
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Sirmolle: OMG MY BALLS ARE SO BIG Sirmolle: Quick send in the spy. Go Spy go.
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