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Hubris Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.19 06:13:00 - [121] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz So if I made a post that said "LV is getting owned", I wonder how long it would go before getting locked? Sssssshhhhh there is no double standard. If you talk about it you will be banned too. I repeat no double standard exists.
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.19 06:17:00 - [122] Originally by: Hubris Originally by: Shamis Orzoz So if I made a post that said "LV is getting owned", I wonder how long it would go before getting locked? Sssssshhhhh there is no double standard. If you talk about it you will be banned too. I repeat no double standard exists. how do you still have a signature. ive been thru like 2 sigs in the past 2 days, i demand equality.
Nooey Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.02.19 06:18:00 - [123] Originally by: ElCholo I think if you pulled your head out of your ass you'd maybe realize Nightmare was quoting SOMEONE ELSE .. and correcting them . Weak flame, really. I noticed what was going on quite fine. Nightmare's "correction" was: Quote: That's not true anylonger, since D2 lost 9 dreads today to BoB. Are you aware that this "correction" implied that previous to those Dreads lost in that fight, they'd not already lost capitals? It's incorrect, as it was no longer true ever since 7BX, Nightmare seems unaware of this however. Good stuff on my head being up my ass though, really added some strength to your argument there buddy.
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express	Posted - 2007.02.19 06:20:00 - [124] I would disagree with the OP. The Anti BoB Coalition is winning in my opinion. You can't always go by ship losses and claim victory or defeat. We have to look at the larger picture. The loss of LVs Capital Shipyards is a blow greater than losing even a dozen capital ships. What it means is that barring another such shipyard in LV, that D2 and their allies can still replace their capital ships, while LV is not able to do so. The loss of a D2 titan was regretable. It perhaps has slowed the D2 offensive, yet noone is attacking into D2 territory and they could easily have one or more under construction at this time. The raging battles in several BoB friendly territories makes it harder to mine and collect minerals. This will impact the longterm health of BoB and friends ability to replace their losses over time. Whereas at the same time the Anti BoB territories are not seeing any combat, and thus are free to carry on their normal operations. This includes the smaller alliances and corps that live in these areas but are not directly attacking. From a logistics standpoint the BoB coalition is at a distinct disadvantage. They probably have stockpiles to suppor a month or two of combat, after that it might start really impacting their ability to field ships. Anyway right now I believe the advantage is in the Anti BoB Coalition, not the BoB coalition. Galactic Express Recruitment Post Thoughts expressed are mine and
Eddie Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.19 06:24:00 - [125] this will without a doubt be a long lasting war with a lot of hard fights and losses on both sides. But in the end im pretty sure that BOB will loose, cause this is in the end a numbers game, and BOB dont have the numbers to win Originally by: Riddari -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OFFICIAL BOB wins EVE-OFFLINE Lets see how EVE-ONLINE goes.
Arithon Draedus NQX Logistics	Posted - 2007.02.19 06:32:00 - [126] Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion Originally by: Arithon Draedus Originally by: Duff Man I won't claim impartiality, I'm not! I have several friends in BoB and I hope to see them win this fight. Having stated that fact, this post is not about garnering propaganda for BoB. Rather, I'd like to ask a question, primarily to understand whether or not my perception of the progress of this war is even close to the reality. From reading the battle reports, it seems as though BoB is at this point, winning this war. Intentionally overlooking the BoB ally situations (LV etc), it would seem that every major engagement with actual BoB forces, has resulted in BoB holding the field and / or, inflicting significant Cap fleet losses on the coalition. From an outsiders view BoB is outclassing you and winning, despite being heavily outnumbered. So the question is this? Is this merely a shining success of propaganda (Which is a valid tactic in war), or is this in fact, the cold hard reality that it seems to be? There is no way that you can claim impartiality. Statements have been made on this forum that Southern Cross Alliance is on BoB side. So, that being said..........I'm posting in a BoB thread! Useless. If you read, then reread, then maybe thought about it, you'd notice : Quote: I won't claim impartiality, I'm not! I have several friends in BoB and I hope to see them win this fight. Look, I'm rebutting a useless post in a Bob thread! So it's gonna be 50 lashings in the courtyard followed by a spanking? Pardon my mistake. I just found it hard to believe that his "Outsiders" view really had any impartiality to it. Many appologies
QwaarJet Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.19 06:34:00 - [127] Quote: From reading the battle reports, it seems as though BoB is at this point, winning this war. You think BoB are winning because they win some of the battles? Bob are losing because they have to put everything into winning those battles, Titans, motherships etc. While they're fighting us, D2 have free reign through Fountain, and LV have less backup against RAGOON. If you look at the big picture, apart from a few unneeded losses, the war is going quite well thank you :p "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimeter Of Wisdom.Run!"
Dufas Amarr Catalyst Reaction Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.19 06:39:00 - [128] anyone with the name 'Duff' has got to be cool __________
merc999 Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.19 08:03:00 - [129] Edited by: merc999 on 19/02/2007 07:59:45 The Coalition has one HUGE tactical advantage over BoB and once LV are defeated will bring that to BoB. The Coalition can run large Ops virtually 23/7, within its membership are a large number of players from every time zone, So unless BoB are going to take the next few months off work and live in front of their PC's they will find it almost impossible to defend their space. Snip Please dont be horrible to Bob with your Sig - email [email protected] - hutch
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.02.19 08:07:00 - [130] Originally by: merc999 The Coalition has one HUGE tactical advantage over BoB and once LV are defeated will bring that to BoB. The Coalition can run large Ops virtually 23/7, within its membership are a large number of players from every time zone, So unless BoB are going to take the next few months off work and live in front of their PC's they will find it almost impossible to defend their space. This is the basic truth of the situation.... the only question is can the coalition keep it up? How badly do they want BoB erased from the EVE-online map?

King Fury Caldari New Justice EntroPraetorian Aegis	Posted - 2007.02.19 08:21:00 - [131] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz So if I made a post that said "LV is getting owned", I wonder how long it would go before getting locked? Depends on the weather I heard, sun rarely shines on you
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.19 08:27:00 - [132] Originally by: King Fury Originally by: Shamis Orzoz So if I made a post that said "LV is getting owned", I wonder how long it would go before getting locked? Depends on the weather I heard, sun rarely shines on you something must have shined on him, his signature survived where mine didn't and ours are THE SAME. THIS IS NOT FAIR. Sig removed as it does not contain Eve-related contnet. -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
Devian 666 KAIZEN BROTHERHOOD	Posted - 2007.02.19 08:33:00 - [133] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: merc999 The Coalition has one HUGE tactical advantage over BoB and once LV are defeated will bring that to BoB. The Coalition can run large Ops virtually 23/7, within its membership are a large number of players from every time zone, So unless BoB are going to take the next few months off work and live in front of their PC's they will find it almost impossible to defend their space. This is the basic truth of the situation.... the only question is can the coalition keep it up? How badly do they want BoB erased from the EVE-online map? I've asked around and a lot of members of the alliance want to rub them off completely. Whether or not they have the steam, motivation and isk to keep it up is another question. Cool an orange sig
Hennry Fromer Gallente radiated space gerbils	Posted - 2007.02.19 08:35:00 - [134] Originally by: Jin Steele 43% of all statistics are made up. And 37.6% of those are used to counter arguments. This looks this thread went from battle report to a comparison of a limbo contest - Who has sunk lower and how. I enjoy the battle reports and hope that people remember that no matter how cool it is this is still just a game. Keep the reports coming and the sniping attacks in game.
NeverL Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.19 08:49:00 - [135] Originally by: Devian 666 You are all traitors to New Zealand and Australia. hehe, that things is fun DAMN you new zealand and australia damn you to hell.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.19 08:53:00 - [136] Wonder what BOB will do when LV are gone. All that free space in between, CA, RedSwarm, AAA, TCF etc.. You think BOB can fight a fleet of 1000+ pilots? How about fighting on three fronts if we decide to do so. I wonder why you posted on this subject tbh. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Cmd Woodlouse Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.19 08:53:00 - [137] Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 19/02/2007 08:50:01 Right at the moment eg. D2 has to fight BoB, FiX, XS, Aftermath and Coreli alone on the fountain front. Against 2 titans w/o an own one. Do you think we are PVP gods? The war is about 1 week old and things will change. But in the end only time will tell, its absolute nonsense to say now already who is winning... --------------------------------
Devian 666 KAIZEN BROTHERHOOD	Posted - 2007.02.19 08:57:00 - [138] Originally by: NeverL Originally by: Devian 666 You are all traitors to New Zealand and Australia. hehe, that things is fun DAMN you new zealand and australia damn you to hell. Nothing wrong with New Zealand and Australia only the traitors in the ANZACs Cool an orange sig
Aira Phlux Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.19 08:58:00 - [139] I wish people would stop calling it "The Coalition" and using it's proper name: "The Bandwagon" I think it's way too early to see which way this gangbang cough sorry, war is going. Its still in it's alpha strikes - the hardest brute force hits always come early on. Then logistics, resources and will-power start to drain out. The critical blows won't be made for some time. Heh its kinda like Helm's deep in FIX space atm but with more orcs.
Erosie	Posted - 2007.02.19 10:38:00 - [140] Originally by: prathe Originally by: Ekon Bor Originally by: Tomic I'm guessing getting owned by D2 up in the north is outclassing everyone? If loosing a titan and 1/3 of one's Dread fleet is your'e idea of uberness then u must pwn i believe you messed up your math because i didn't see us lose 38 dreads heheh that made me lolled 38??!!! dang..

Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.19 10:39:00 - [141] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 19/02/2007 08:50:01 Right at the moment eg. D2 has to fight BoB, FiX, XS, Aftermath and Coreli alone on the fountain front. Against 2 titans w/o an own one. Do you think we are PVP gods? The war is about 1 week old and things will change. But in the end only time will tell, its absolute nonsense to say now already who is winning... Just a quick correction to the above Woody, FIX were only up in Fountain for the first weekend. We're currently fighting several other alliances in Querious. Blog
Duff Man Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.19 10:39:00 - [142] Edited by: Duff Man on 19/02/2007 10:39:53 Originally by: Devian 666 You are all traitors to New Zealand and Australia. No. Going in to bat for the one group that has consistently delivered for us, is not behaving like traitors.
DeadDuck Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.19 10:59:00 - [143] Originally by: Nez Perces How badly do they want BoB erased from the EVE-online map? I will give you my personal thoughts about that question: It's my dearest dream, it's the purpose of my gaming time at the moment.
Rawstyle Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.19 12:27:00 - [144] Edited by: Rawstyle on 19/02/2007 12:25:56 Edited by: Rawstyle on 19/02/2007 12:24:00 currently BoB are indeed doing a good job of making the attackers lives hard at critical moments, and yes they have indeed done better on the cap ship kill front thus far. However, what is not being reported is how much bs/support they are loosing in these engagements. In virtually every engagemnet we've had with them thier bs/support fleets have been almost entirely wiped out. Whilst often below the isk value of the caps that they have destroyed, this is still unlike any losses bob have taken before, particularly over a sustained period of time. As is only natural in this circumstance, they have the advantage of defending (ie. beingable to wait for the attackers to deploy caps and then countering) which will be the case as long as we remain on the offensive. Whilst thus far they have managed to appear in the nick of time to save a number of pos's or help put a number of hostile 1's into reinforced, all that is actually happeneing is that the inevitable is being delayed. We still have pos's in both 9cg and ed-, we will still have 9cg within the week and ed- within two weeks. Every time bob come to fix's aid it buys our compatriots a little more time. The have inflicted cap kills on us on 1 occasion. They have attacked/defended against us on at least 8 occasions, loosing capitals of thier own and thier bs/support fleets almost everytime they engage. Their advantage atm is a captial advantage, nothing else. As long as we keep the pressure up we keep them on the hop. The longer we keep the presssure up the less time until lv falls and the ragoons/friends reinforce us. Even if we can't take Querious, d2 can't take fountain and AAA are held in period, bob cannot remove us and the respective residents cannot survive without bob's assistance. Even if we are held in our respective regions for months, LV will fall and our numbers will double. It will be a war of attrition, but as long as the 3 fronts stay open bob will be stretched in thier defense. Whether they can cope with being stretched for as long as they are going to be will be the deciding factor. Atm we are being held......nothing more.
ph33rf4ct0ry Minmatar Hookers From Mars	Posted - 2007.02.19 22:00:00 - [145] I agree that it would be nearly impossible for bob to survive those odds. Looking at the size of the nap-train against them says something about how good they are. Member of the POST WITH YOUR MAIN SOCIETY
Minigin Caldari Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.02.19 22:12:00 - [146] hey duff man ^^ glad to see your back in the game. It's been a while since rightious few, but anyway... im anti-bob atm for several key reasons so i wont claim to be impartial in any way. however from what i understand d2 has done very well against bob (bar a titan which i think has been yelled about enough) and ragoon have done exeedingly well against lv. what i expect to happen is that lv will be defeated soon and then i suspect bobs time is up. they where a fiersome alliance with great leadership and for a time im sure they had us all fooled that they would rule the galaxy. but my how the tables have turned. if in the next 6 months bob has not fallen i will be surprised. Minigin
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.02.19 22:21:00 - [147] reads blinks Can't everyone just shut up and kill each other? Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY Down with alts! One character per account per IP!
Portios Smith Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.19 22:28:00 - [148] Why is this thread not locked yet? not enough cow flames? Come one CoWards flame away here too. I want the truth You can't handle the truth - Ductoris
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2007.02.19 22:32:00 - [149] Originally by: Ekon Bor Originally by: Tomic I'm guessing getting owned by D2 up in the north is outclassing everyone? If loosing a titan and 1/3 of one's Dread fleet is your'e idea of uberness then u must pwn Are you talking about LV ?
Angel NZ KZ7	Posted - 2007.02.19 22:34:00 - [150] Originally by: Kreul Intentions snip please do not discuss moderation in your signature - Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) I loved it whilst you had it mazz



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