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Dom Arkaral
Kiss. Kill. Destroy. Section.Nine
495
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Posted - 2016.06.15 16:18:36 -
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Xolve wrote:Lord Razpataz wrote:
It does'nt change the fact that CCP killed an emergent gameplay.
Let me ask, would that have been a solution when Fozzie sov came out and everyone in 0.0 was bitching about troll ceptors? Just do something else? Give up?
Killing people in highsec isn't ' emergent gameplay', it's killing people in Highsec. Sorry that a good change towards watch lists, that kills the opportunity for fights is preventing you from killing mission runners. You said the effort wasn't worth it anymore, I just suggested trying something else. if Quote:Killing people in highsec isn't '[i]emergent gameplay then neither is killing in any other area of space hahaaha
weren't you PL guys hunting supercaps and titans with the watchlist btw?
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Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2564
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Posted - 2016.06.15 16:28:34 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:weren't you PL guys hunting supercaps and titans with the watchlist btw?
Yes. People also had free intel on if/when our supers or titans had logged in as well.
I'm not sure you understand what 'emergent gameplay' means. |
Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
328
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Posted - 2016.06.15 16:31:20 -
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Xolve wrote:I'm not sure you understand what 'emergent gameplay' means. Well.. explain it to us then. |
Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2564
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Posted - 2016.06.15 17:23:22 -
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Lord Razpataz wrote:Xolve wrote:I'm not sure you understand what 'emergent gameplay' means. Well.. explain it to us then.
Here you go. |
Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
329
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Posted - 2016.06.15 17:26:47 -
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Xolve wrote:Lord Razpataz wrote:Xolve wrote:I'm not sure you understand what 'emergent gameplay' means. Well.. explain it to us then. Here you go. But have you read the results?
First hit: "Emergent gameplay refers to complex situations in video games, board games, or table top role-playing games that emerge from the interaction of relatively simple game mechanics"
"Simple game mechanics", would in this case be the watchlist, right?
Edit: I see you added to your post.. Your examples would be more "Unintentional emergence".. |
Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2564
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Posted - 2016.06.15 17:42:53 -
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Lord Razpataz wrote:Your examples would be more "Unintentional emergence"..
"Intentional emergence occurs when some creative uses of the game are intended by the game designers"
I stand corrected, however- semantics over a gameplay definition aren't really going to help you adapt to the current circumstances. |
Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
330
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Posted - 2016.06.15 17:48:58 -
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Xolve wrote:Lord Razpataz wrote:Your examples would be more "Unintentional emergence"..
"Intentional emergence occurs when some creative uses of the game are intended by the game designers" I stand corrected, however- semantics over a gameplay definition aren't really going to help you adapt to the current circumstances.
Well.. to be fair, you started the talk about gameplay definition. |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Carpe Noctem. Pandemic Legion
2667
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Posted - 2016.06.17 17:25:46 -
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Lord Razpataz wrote:Lets see.. I've tried the eve forums, twitter and even personal messages on slack with no luck. Havent touched reddit tho, but feel like thats no point with the downvoting thing. What to do next? Give up? **** no... I have more patience than this Mustn't....must....resist...
Must...be....strong...
Must...
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Badman Lasermouse
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps FETID
215
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Posted - 2016.06.17 18:40:53 -
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In high sec when the care-bears cried about wardecs we were to first to scream "Adapt or die".
So do it, you may have to leave the old comfort zone but many have and still continue to be successful.
-Badman
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Argus Enigmatus
Stardust Heavy Industries ChaosTheory.
0
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:01:14 -
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Xolve wrote:Lord Razpataz wrote:Xolve wrote:I'm not sure you understand what 'emergent gameplay' means. Well.. explain it to us then. [However, there's still a dozen things people will pay you to do in HighSec (since you're so adamant on staying there)- just remember that they're hiring YOU to do tedious and often boring things and your return is a negotiated payment. If potential clients are questioning your prices, maybe it's on you to make yourself more marketable.
Well they woud have more options to do things in high Sec...
But with every other so called merc alliance in eve on the own blue list....
in my eyes
its their own fault that they dont get more Work
at the end they all arnt available for porper work cause o no but your called target is on the blue list.. |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16387
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:18:57 -
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We arent getting work because we arent soliciting for any numbnuts.
Better the Devil you know.
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Argus Enigmatus
Stardust Heavy Industries ChaosTheory.
1
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:31:44 -
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Ralph King-Griffin
taht was not direceted at you
i highly respect that you took the way of moving on since there is no viable work ...
and you are not willing to be a griefer , ganker what else...
what earns my highest respect..
it is just a short overview about the rest of the so called merc's
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16388
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:34:30 -
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No worries.
Better the Devil you know.
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Valkin Mordirc
2129
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:35:57 -
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Argus Enigmatus wrote:
griefer
lol
#DeleteTheWeak
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Mortlake
Devils Rejects 666
2270
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:45:03 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:Argus Enigmatus wrote:
griefer
lol
The mere thought of ganking someone makes us very sad. Isn't that right Ralph?
It's not something we've ever considered.
****ing griefers.
Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. Truth be told, I've been pretty unlucky.
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Mortlake
Devils Rejects 666
2270
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:46:41 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:We arent getting work because we arent soliciting for any numbnuts.
Well, he says that, but I regularly come home from the pub to find his fishnet clad leg waving suggestively out of a porthole.
Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. Truth be told, I've been pretty unlucky.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16389
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:48:24 -
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Mortlake wrote:Valkin Mordirc wrote:Argus Enigmatus wrote:
griefer
lol The mere thought of ganking someone makes us very sad. Isn't that right Ralph? It's not something we've ever considered. ****ing griefers. Down with that sort of thing!
Better the Devil you know.
=]|[=
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
736
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Posted - 2016.07.01 16:33:36 -
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Though the answer might not be what you are looking for, Team Five 0 have replied to the original feedback thread here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6550198#post6550198
CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
@CCP_Lebowski
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7819
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Posted - 2016.07.01 16:46:35 -
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Well there you go.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7819
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Posted - 2016.07.01 16:48:04 -
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Argus Enigmatus wrote: Ralph King-Griffin
taht was not direceted at you
i highly respect that you took the way of moving on since there is no viable work ...
and you are not willing to be a griefer , ganker what else...
what earns my highest respect..
it is just a short overview about the rest of the so called merc's
Ralph is going to peddle radioactive baby food in Jita and he's going to do it in a Kestrel.
That's my best guess.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2603
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Posted - 2016.07.01 17:29:13 -
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This pleases me. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16569
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Posted - 2016.07.01 17:30:15 -
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Cheers for the update Lebowski.
Better the Devil you know.
=]|[=
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Rawmeat Mary
Hunter Killers. Complaints Department
127
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Posted - 2016.07.01 17:36:58 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Argus Enigmatus wrote: Ralph King-Griffin
taht was not direceted at you
i highly respect that you took the way of moving on since there is no viable work ...
and you are not willing to be a griefer , ganker what else...
what earns my highest respect..
it is just a short overview about the rest of the so called merc's
Ralph is going to peddle radioactive baby food in Jita and he's going to do it in a Kestrel. That's my best guess. Just another nail in Devil's coffin, and many others. [sigh]
Thanks for the answer nonetheless.
'If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins onto their clothing.
And if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order.'
Yeah, we're like that.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7821
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Posted - 2016.07.01 19:58:41 -
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Rawmeat Mary wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Argus Enigmatus wrote: Ralph King-Griffin
taht was not direceted at you
i highly respect that you took the way of moving on since there is no viable work ...
and you are not willing to be a griefer , ganker what else...
what earns my highest respect..
it is just a short overview about the rest of the so called merc's
Ralph is going to peddle radioactive baby food in Jita and he's going to do it in a Kestrel. That's my best guess. Just another nail in Devil's coffin, and many others. [sigh] Thanks for the answer nonetheless.
Well mercs have always been a part of Eve and here's to hope that CCP is going to find some way to preserve and improve the merc "lifestyle" (that's what I'll call it).
So from this point, what could be done? Total revamp? Some ways to improve? Are there any mercs on the CSM who would know their stuff? Will there be any left before the next CSM election? (I'm not trying to put too much stock in the power that the CSM has but they do have the ear of the devs at least)
Oh well.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
354
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Posted - 2016.07.02 12:54:35 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Well mercs have always been a part of Eve and here's to hope that CCP is going to find some way to preserve and improve the merc "lifestyle" (that's what I'll call it).
So from this point, what could be done? Total revamp? Some ways to improve? Are there any mercs on the CSM who would know their stuff? Will there be any left before the next CSM election? (I'm not trying to put too much stock in the power that the CSM has but they do have the ear of the devs at least)
Oh well.
Its still gonna be "mercs" around in eve, how effective or focused is another thing... And.. with CCP forcing the highsec pvp'rs into the stereotypical way eve population look at highsec mercs, I dont blame people for thinking like that.
As for what could be done... total revamp seems more plausible. Another road paved with good intention... then the next fire/shiny thing comes along and we're left with half a new mechanic.
Oh.. dont get me started on the CSM, its those twats that started bitching about the watchlist in the first place. it took CCP years to listen and remove it, so I really doubt the CSM is gonna be at our rescue.
If removing watchlist was that good of a change... why did ccp wait for so long before folding? it makes no sense.
And I do have to say its kinda funny.. within 1 hour after I got CCP Guard follow me on twitter I got responses from CCP Lebowski and CCP Larrikin out of the blue, did someone got told to answer? Or just a coincident?
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3415
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Posted - 2016.07.02 13:53:18 -
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Well, then there is only one way to counter it, Lets double the number of war decs..... Maybe that's what CCP had in mind all the time. Kill more people in highsec.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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VegasMirage
Blades Of Athena Northern Coalition.
1606
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Posted - 2016.07.02 18:28:31 -
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The watch list made no sense in the first place. here's a double post... ready?
no more games... it's real this time!!!
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VegasMirage
Blades Of Athena Northern Coalition.
1606
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Posted - 2016.07.02 18:32:44 -
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nice find, says it all - leave it as is and stop whinning about this helping cap pilots... stop trying to compare yourself to a Titan pilot... you're a high sec scrub harrassing people who for the most part don't understand the game mechanics.
Now, hi sec mercs this is for you...
https://youtu.be/F-g8Pe7vrg4
no more games... it's real this time!!!
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Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
359
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Posted - 2016.07.02 18:41:02 -
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VegasMirage wrote:With that said, anybody wanna join me for some 4-4 insta-lock-popping fun? This was not long ago.. in same thread, scrub :P
PS: Love you too. |
Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2606
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Posted - 2016.07.02 18:54:31 -
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Lord Razpataz wrote:VegasMirage wrote:With that said, anybody wanna join me for some 4-4 insta-lock-popping fun? This was not long ago.. in same thread, scrub :P PS: Love you too.
Sarcasm is hard |
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