Originally by: trk4

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Originally by: The Assyrian

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Edited by: The Assyrian on 20/02/2007 22:01:03
So, when someone scams an auction, or ganks a carebear, or whatever else -- that's all completely copacetic, but this isn't? How often are people mocked or laughed at for getting taken advantage of in deals or fights?

I'm failing to see the fine moral distinctions people are making. Sometimes stealing and taking advantage of people is okay, and sometimes it isn't? I see people from alliances here posting condolences that have cheated in various ways themselves right and left, and who worship the GHSC, but this is some especially lame thing?

I don't really get it.

That said, I don't cheat, never would, and would never even think to do something like this corp theft. But it's funny to see people who, in other circumstances, praising those other things being so critical here.

Personally, I'd like to see the general tenor of conduct in Eve raised. More and more, it just seems like whatever you can get away with, you should. By that logic, this guy just made off with multiple billions. Good for him, I guess, at least by that reasoning. I don't agree with it, but plenty of other people do -- including people who have posted in this thread.

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Nice post.
Although the situation itself sucks, it is valid gameplay.
Kinda like shooting n00bs at a station when they loot cans
you drop sitting nearby in a battleship. Lame but still legal.

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Originally by: Rahn Sohwant

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Originally by: The Assyrian

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... I see people from alliances here posting condolences that have cheated in various ways themselves right and left, and who worship the GHSC, but this is some especially lame thing?

I don't really get it. ...

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I think the thing that is so jarring about this is that it wasn't like 'Annnddd, 20 Feb is the day I unveil my evil plan to clear out the corp and screw you all over. I've been planning it since the start! BWAHAHAHA!'

It seems more like he's just had a tantrum and is packing up his toys and going home, except he's taking everyone elses toys too. Not to mention screwing up standings and generally doing everything he can to rub salt in the wound. He's no master scam artist, he's just an unstable baby.

To be honest, the signs of his instability have always been there, and it's true that we kind of let this happen, but often the best leaders are those that are able to walk the razors edge of their own madness.

This is posted from someone without a long history in the corp, but with a long history in the group most of ARS C's membership is drawn from. It's gratifying to see from the posts in here that most of Eve know what kind of a group we are and are wishing us well in the challenges we now face.

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Originally by: NATMav

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So according to some posters, this is how EvE should be played:

Exploiting game mechanics to rip off a corp = bad
Exploiting game mechanics to spy on someone's TS = good
Exploiting game mechanics to offline a POS = good
Exploiting game mechanics to kill an afk titan = good
Exploiting game mechanics to log out of a bubble = bad
Exploiting game mechanics to logon trap = bad

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Originally by: NATMav

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So according to some posters, this is how EvE should be played:

Exploiting game mechanics to rip off a corp = bad
Exploiting game mechanics to spy on someone's TS = good
Exploiting game mechanics to offline a POS = good
Exploiting game mechanics to kill an afk titan = good
Exploiting game mechanics to log out of a bubble = bad
Exploiting game mechanics to logon trap = bad

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Originally by: Hamatitio

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"Oregon Trail ALliance [Wagon]"

Description: You Caught Malaria and died.

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Originally by: Archilies

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Edited by: Archilies on 20/02/2007 20:48:16

Originally by: Tessa Vaako

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Achilles

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Originally by: NATMav

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So according to some posters, this is how EvE should be played:

Exploiting game mechanics to rip off a corp = bad
Exploiting game mechanics to spy on someone's TS = bad
Exploiting game mechanics to offline a POS = bad
Exploiting game mechanics to kill an afk titan = bad
Exploiting game mechanics to log out of a bubble = bad
Exploiting game mechanics to logon trap = bad

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Originally by: Stamm

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Some people might have been convinced by the official announcement posted by Steelrat, but not me, I wasn't convinced until some random alt posts a brand new thread.

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Originally by: Tessa Vaako

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Early this morning, Ars Caelestis was hit by a corp thief of the worst kind. The person who was a part of community and served us as an excellent leader has taken leave of his senses and not only stripped all members of their roles but has also taken possession of all the corporate ISK and assets. Additioally he has seized over seven billion ISK that was being donated for a T2 BPO purchasing program. This person was not one whom we thought would ever be a problem, a kind and honest person who was always looking out for his corporation. As you can guess, this was the CEO of the corporation.

I will not go into details of what happened. Needless to say, he disagreed with the rest of his corp, and decided to cash in all his chips and leave the corp with nothing. As such, Achilles Thorongmor, Garion Thorongmor, and Bon Mot are now considered corp thieves.

The Ars Caelestis community will go on. We are already forming a new corp, and from the ashes of the old we will rise again to higher and loftier goals. I warn the rest of EVE, do not buy these characters as they will always be KOS to those of us who will never forget how he treated those loyal to him.

Any questions feel free to contact either myself or Fabienne Runestar in game.

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Originally by: HankMurphy

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thats just messed up. its one thing for a thief/spy to infiltrate ranks to wreak havoc... but for a CEO to do it... just wrong.

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Originally by: Tremektus

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Gentlemen, we can rebuild. We have the technology. We have the capability to build EVE's best corp. Ars ex Discordia will be that corp. Better than it was before. Better, stronger, faster.

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