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Tessa Vaako Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:08:00 - [1] Early this morning, Ars Caelestis was hit by a corp thief of the worst kind. The person who was a part of community and served us as an excellent leader has taken leave of his senses and not only stripped all members of their roles but has also taken possession of all the corporate ISK and assets. Additioally he has seized over seven billion ISK that was being donated for a T2 BPO purchasing program. This person was not one whom we thought would ever be a problem, a kind and honest person who was always looking out for his corporation. As you can guess, this was the CEO of the corporation. I will not go into details of what happened. Needless to say, he disagreed with the rest of his corp, and decided to cash in all his chips and leave the corp with nothing. As such, Achilles Thorongmor, Garion Thorongmor, and Bon Mot are now considered corp thieves. The Ars Caelestis community will go on. We are already forming a new corp, and from the ashes of the old we will rise again to higher and loftier goals. I warn the rest of EVE, do not buy these characters as they will always be KOS to those of us who will never forget how he treated those loyal to him. Any questions feel free to contact either myself or Fabienne Runestar in game.
alpheon Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:11:00 - [2] Edited by: alpheon on 20/02/2007 19:12:41 /signed
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:11:00 - [3] Ouch! Blog
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:13:00 - [4] Sorry to hear, corp thieves are 4tl regardless of whether they are ceo or a new recruit.
Halvar Conan	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:13:00 - [5] Please give details on the new corp ASAP! Good luck!
nickycakes Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:14:00 - [6] meh, i always thought achilles was a cool guy too. sorry to hear about this =( good luck with your new corp guys Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
Carsidava Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:15:00 - [7] Originally by: Tessa Vaako The Ars Caelestis community will go on. We are already forming a new corp, and from the ashes of the old we will rise again to higher and loftier goals. /signed --
Valkazm Amarr ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:15:00 - [8] Atleast its something that unites all the members to the new corp and new start ..
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:15:00 - [9] Always the one guy you would never suspect Never again are you allowed to complain about not training for combat
Shinjuro Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:16:00 - [10] Well that just sucks.. sry to hear.
TroNaaR Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:16:00 - [11] I hope someone stabs these thiefs in the eye. With an Ishkur. Wherever you go... There you are...
Anderson Wes Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:18:00 - [12] Originally by: Carsidava Originally by: Tessa Vaako The Ars Caelestis community will go on. We are already forming a new corp, and from the ashes of the old we will rise again to higher and loftier goals. /signed /signed
Kozak Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:18:00 - [13] What a scumbag. Even though this is a game, it reflects on you as a person. Hope you guys recover and keep the fight going.
Beyond Horizon Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:19:00 - [14] ohman, feel sorry for you guys. Princess, guess you'll need a hug or two :P Old man BH is always there -
Shiv Katall Minmatar Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:20:00 - [15] /signed ôNobody ever defended anything successfully, there is only attack and attack and attack some more.ö
Lysha North Eastern Swat	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:21:00 - [16] Sorry to hear about the theft. That's harsh. On the flip side, he was probably the bad Karma that made you guys the touch of death for other alliances you belonged to....
GO MaZ Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:22:00 - [17] Edited by: GO MaZ on 20/02/2007 19:19:12 surprised, I am not. While I have disagreed with ArsC members in the past over numerous things and haven't always been subtle about it, I'd just like to say this sucks and GL reforming without said ****stain
sugark Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:24:00 - [18] I don¦t know you guys personally, but wish you all the best of luck anyway. Hope you recover from it quickly - not only financially, but also emotionally. ___________________________________________________ Thank you Annya Avishnaya for my awesome sig! <3
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:24:00 - [19] Grrr, that is f**ing sht! Sorry to hear that people.
Exortius Amarrus The Clearwater Society Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:28:00 - [20] There is a special circle of hell reserved for traitors and thieves. ------------------------
tomzki Pringles Inc. YouWhat	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:29:00 - [21] Sorry for your loss peeps
Thoric Frosthammer The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:30:00 - [22] Ouch, sorry to hear that. You guys were always a class act when I knew you in ASCN. Good luck on reforming and moving on.
Don Carn'age Caldari Golden Fury Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:30:00 - [23] I am sorry to hear this. ARS C you know you have my personal backing of whatever you do next and any action you take. And if need be back you all up in any quest to kick this guys ass (plain as !) DonC [GF-C] CEO/FC Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Ivan K
Vadoc Trax Caldari RABBLE-RABBLE	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:31:00 - [24] /signed Now that ArsC is dead, maybe you guys will finally have kicked off that curse of killing alliances. :D -------------------------------------------------- #1. Pillage, THEN burn. #8. Mockery and derision have their place. Usually, it's on the far side of the airlock.
greenhornet Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:32:00 - [25] That blows. I am sorry to hear of that lose. Stuff like this runs the game for so many people it is pathetic. Seriously, if you don't like how the wind is blowing, grow a sack and step down. Taking all the toys and going home isn't an option in my book.
Harum Skarum Minmatar Committee for Subversive Decoration	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:32:00 - [26] Good riddance
Admiral Feelgood Even-Flow	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:32:00 - [27] Ars Caelestis is dead, long live Ars Caelestis.
Sathrai No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:33:00 - [28] Edited by: Sathrai on 20/02/2007 19:30:19 Wow, my (and many of my fellow ex-Huzzah people's) personal dislike for Achilles suddenly became a hundred times more justified. My heart goes out to you lads - no corp deserves to get backstabbed, and that goes doubly for betrayal by the CEO. Good luck with picking yourselves up; I'm sure you'll do a lot better for yourselves without that insufferable bastard at the helm. Huzzah!
sariss Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:35:00 - [29] Although we are standing on different sides i have to say that i am sorry to hear of that. Corp thievery is the lowest that can be done in EVE and i wouldn¦t wish it even to my enemies. Ars Celestis is a fine corp, i hope you have success in rebuilding it.
Princess Aricia Gallente Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:35:00 - [30] Originally by: Beyond Horizon ohman, feel sorry for you guys. Princess, guess you'll need a hug or two :P Old man BH is always there Take those hugs
Lowanaera Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:36:00 - [31] Sadly not really surprising having dealt with people like him numerous times before, but unfortunate none the less.
Jaegan Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:37:00 - [32] Originally by: Exortius Amarrus There is a special circle of hell reserved for traitors and thieves. Well... actually, there's two. The seventh bolgia of the Eighth Circle holds the thieves. Traitors are found further down in the Ninth. Cue The More You Know. ;)
sherbert lemon Amarr Black Omega Security Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:38:00 - [33] Really sad to here.. hope u guys recover quickly see you in space ArsC
God's Army Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:38:00 - [34] Edited by: God''s Army on 20/02/2007 19:35:02 sorry for your losses guyz, Good Luck in the new corp R0ADKILL ALLIANCE Killboard
Preacher97 Caldari Obliteration Unlimited R i s e	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:39:00 - [35] Edited by: Preacher97 on 20/02/2007 19:35:32 There are people who have shot me deader than last night's dinner in game that I would happily share a pitcher with, but a thief, well, lets just say they are perma red.
feroci0us Gallente BIG Advanced Assault Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:40:00 - [36] sorry for your loss!
Mestoth Minmatar Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:45:00 - [37] Edited by: Mestoth on 20/02/2007 19:41:59 Sucks to be us :( Grateful for the EVE online support. edit1: Princess, love the Sig :)
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:46:00 - [38] Damn am surprised at this move tbh Hope you guys get back on your feet soon again, being hit by a thief sucks but you can recover as the most valuable assets are your people.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:49:00 - [39] Sorry to hear it :( Good luck with future endevours.
Adril Alatar Minmatar Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:51:00 - [40] achilles was one of the biggest asshats i ever met in eve... but i never would have thought he will steal from his own corp ...
Kaar Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:54:00 - [41] Not Bon Mot! He flys a rapier --- ---
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:55:00 - [42] sorry for your loss
7up Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:08:00 - [43] I heard the CEO left for a few months and then came back and when he realized he was in CA, he was like WTF. He found himself in a situation where he was friends with people he didn't like. Any truth to this? Was he upset and this was his way of taking it out on you guys? Don't get me wrong. I think its messed up what he did but if there is any truth to any of the above then I can see why he would take stuff and leave.
headseed Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:10:00 - [44] The suport in this thread is strong, whether it be from allies or not. We all share the common enemy that is the corp thief it would seem.
TheArchJudge Gallente Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:10:00 - [45] That really sucks. I know how you guys must feel, delta had a somewhat similar incident. I wish you all the best in reforming your corp.
Sathrai No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:12:00 - [46] Originally by: 7up Don't get me wrong. I think its messed up what he did but if there is any truth to any of the above then I can see why he would take stuff and leave. Even if this is true, there's no justification to why one should take stuff and THEN leave. Leave, sure. But not take stuff. If you don't like the way a corp is, just turn in your badge and go. Don't try to screw them over, and don't try to "take what is rightfully yours" or whatever hogwash you might whip up to justify thievery. Just state your reasons and make your exit with dignity. Well, that's the way respectable and upright people do things, anyways. I suppose such individuals are at a premium these days in EVE.
nickky01 The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:12:00 - [47] always knew he was a D-bag, sorry to hear that tessa...good luck with your new corp m8 ------------------------------------------- Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Oh and IAC's official response to ISS's offer is lollerskates.
Boliknar The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:12:00 - [48] Sorry to hear of yer loss. Funny how small some people act whenthey dont get their way. One good thing will come from this whenever that crotch-stain tries to get any one of those tunes in another corp all that has to be done is a search and this thread will come up.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:13:00 - [49] That's just lame as hell. The only thing worse than a thief is one who will betray his best friends to steal more. I hope the dishonorable scum can't find a corp in EVE that will take them ever again. Good luck, Ars Caelestis, in forming your new corp. EVE-Trance Radio--The EVE Textboard
alpheon Caldari Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:13:00 - [50] Originally by: 7up I heard the CEO left for a few months and then came back and when he realized he was in CA, he was like WTF. He found himself in a situation where he was friends with people he didn't like. Any truth to this? Was he upset and this was his way of taking it out on you guys? Don't get me wrong. I think its messed up what he did but if there is any truth to any of the above then I can see why he would take stuff and leave. None of that is true. This signature needs replacement
Fabienne Runestar Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:17:00 - [51] Originally by: 7up I heard the CEO left for a few months and then came back and when he realized he was in CA, he was like WTF. He found himself in a situation where he was friends with people he didn't like. Any truth to this? Was he upset and this was his way of taking it out on you guys? Don't get me wrong. I think its messed up what he did but if there is any truth to any of the above then I can see why he would take stuff and leave. Bzzzt wrong. We still love CA, nice try. ---
Jelek Coro Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:18:00 - [52] That sucks ... hope you get back on your feet quickly.
Jacque Custeau Knights of the Minmatar Republic	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:19:00 - [53] We can only hope that CCP stop endorsing this style of gameplay and drive these human pigs out of the game. -------------------
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:21:00 - [54] The curse is lifted. _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Material Defender Got Corp?
George Costanza Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:22:00 - [55] Originally by: Hans Roaming Damn am surprised at this move tbh Hope you guys get back on your feet soon again, being hit by a thief sucks but you can recover as the most valuable assets are your people. Hans it hit us from left field like you wouldn't believe, some people lost hundreds of millions in isk that were supposed to go to a T2 BPO purchase. Can we have Steve Dave back Half kidding (he is an asset to any corp), most of the leadership is still there so we will rise stronger from this!
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:24:00 - [56] Originally by: Jacque Custeau Edited by: Jacque Custeau on 20/02/2007 20:17:04 We can only hope that CCP stop endorsing this style of gameplay and drive these human pigs out of the game. But perhaps that is too much to ask of a company that continues to employ a cheater. More sa***uards in corp mechanics would be nice, but eliminating the possibility and/or actual bannage is a silly idea. I'd rather see someone's true colors and have a shot at retribution than just be left with nothing and no way to get even. _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Material Defender Got Corp?
Entilzah Valen 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:26:00 - [57] What a ****bag. You should have taken the blue pill.
Jon Lucien Oberon Incorporated Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:41:00 - [58] Perhaps this will spur some more creative ideas from ccp about how megacorps can be run. The ability of a CEO to completely rip apart an organization of people is staggering. Perhaps in the future we'll see the ability of corps to implement some sort of Board of Directors who have a large say (voting ability) on high-level corp activites and can ask for/force the resignation of a ceo dependent upon some sort of voting system.
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:42:00 - [59] mhm.. i would be interested to heard his side of the story... CEO's cant usually be accused of corp theft.. either way sorry for your loses _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:46:00 - [60] Originally by: thoth foc CEO's cant usually be accused of corp theft.. "He stole a kazillion dollars that wasnt his, but its cool cause hes the CEO!!" Hmmm, nah something dont fit right there. No matter what you achieve in this game, it'll will always be tainted by the fact you cheated to get there.
Ron Simon Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:46:00 - [61] To be honest, I never liked Ars C anyway because they were being real jacka**es to me while I was still in the learning phase in Huzzah. Even so, you never steal from your own corp and as small as Achilles balls are, he still managed to screw you guys hardcore. Any guy like that deserves a perminant KOS anywhere he goes.
Valekrin Ziemisra 12-Gauge	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:51:00 - [62] Quote: CEO's cant usually be accused of corp theft.. either way sorry for your loses Ahh thats what made the USA such a great country, sack 10.000 workers and fill your pockets. Let me guess your American? Or just a Gordon Gekko wanabe?
Archilies Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:51:00 - [63] Edited by: Archilies on 20/02/2007 20:48:16 Originally by: Tessa Vaako Achilles Recruitment Thread
Raivi Explosion Matrix	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:52:00 - [64] That really sucks. Good luck with the recovery and I hope you shake off this loss quickly. ----------------------------------------- Explosion Matrix: Our Name Makes No Sense
Sathrai No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:53:00 - [65] Edited by: Sathrai on 20/02/2007 20:52:10 Originally by: thoth foc CEO's cant usually be accused of corp theft.. either way sorry for your loses If directors can be lynched for it, then so can the CEO. Just because they're nominally in charge doesn't automatically mean all of the corp assets are their own toys to play with as they see fit - unless, of course, the corp is explicitly set up like that, whereupon you probably deserve whatever you get. CEOs have a responsibility to their members. It is not a "treat members and their stuff like chattel" ticket. To do so is utterly reprehensible.
Karma Kahn Amarr OLE Mining Corp Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:56:00 - [66] Assets can be replaced its good to hear the core of the corp has remained loyal and strong throughout. Whatever does not kill me makes me stronger hope this applies to you guys good luck. May your nights be filled with podding the thief
Chirinako Caldari Legionari Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:56:00 - [67] Glad to hear you're going to re-form the corp and battle on, really good to hear. Wish you the best of luck with that :) Shame to hear about your losses though, it's never good to hear of thievery on that scale. I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemies.
Trom Zatagnia Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:57:00 - [68] Originally by: Sathrai Originally by: thoth foc CEO's cant usually be accused of corp theft.. either way sorry for your loses If directors can be lynched for it, then so can the CEO. Just because they're nominally in charge doesn't automatically mean all of the corp assets are their own toys to play with as they see fit - unless the corp is explicitly set up like that anyways, whereupon you probably deserve whatever you get. Especially when people are entrusting their personal assets to you as part of some investment/procurement program. We trusted him and got hosed. We'll live. We've learned from it. You know what? It's all good. We'll take care of our business and keep on.
Chi Prime Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:58:00 - [69] Ouch, sorry to hear that - Ares, Raptor and Malediction needs fixing
Sathrai No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.02.20 20:58:00 - [70] Originally by: Trom Zatagnia Originally by: Sathrai Originally by: thoth foc CEO's cant usually be accused of corp theft.. either way sorry for your loses If directors can be lynched for it, then so can the CEO. Just because they're nominally in charge doesn't automatically mean all of the corp assets are their own toys to play with as they see fit - unless the corp is explicitly set up like that anyways, whereupon you probably deserve whatever you get. Especially when people are entrusting their personal assets to you as part of some investment/procurement program. We trusted him and got hosed. We'll live. We've learned from it. You know what? It's all good. We'll take care of our business and keep on. I don't doubt that you will. I know you guys from Huzzah; I know that you have excellent esprit de corps. Something like this won't stop you guys for long.
Tassi Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:00:00 - [71] Originally by: Skrypt I'd probably do the same if I had to deal with Princess Aricia on a daily basis. :) Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Good luck in your future endeavors. IMO Aricia is just the sexbomb and you are simply jealous.
Zangief Suikoi Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:06:00 - [72] Corp thieves are the worse. My condolences.
CHAOS100 Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:13:00 - [73] Edited by: CHAOS100 on 20/02/2007 21:09:55 I always knew achilles was a fool, back in Huzzah and all. --------------
Boliknar The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:15:00 - [74] Originally by: Valekrin Ziemisra Quote: CEO's cant usually be accused of corp theft.. either way sorry for your loses Ahh thats what made the USA such a great country, sack 10.000 workers and fill your pockets. Let me guess your American? Or just a Gordon Gekko wanabe? Ok so you really wanna turn this into r/l politics? I didn't think so... Just crawl back to whatever socialist cesspool you call home and quit trolling. MMMKAY
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:15:00 - [75] If all CA members would check the CA forums about information on this it would be great.. Thanks Cupdeez Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
matty01 Killson Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:16:00 - [76] sucks guys, i always said he was a huge d-bag, but what can you do hope you get back on your feet soon __________________________
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:16:00 - [77] Originally by: Valekrin Ziemisra Quote: CEO's cant usually be accused of corp theft.. either way sorry for your loses Ahh thats what made the USA such a great country, sack 10.000 workers and fill your pockets. Let me guess your American? Or just a Gordon Gekko wanabe? or maybe i try to gain all the facts b4 making up my mind? It's not hard to think b4 opening your mouth.. try it.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Rrroot Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:17:00 - [78] Sad to see this happen Tessa. Didn't expect it to happen. I hope you guys are able to recover from this big loss. Rrroot o7 --- "It is not merely cruelty that leads men to love war, it is excitement." ù Henry Ward Beecher, PROVERBS FROM PLYMOUTH PULPIT, 1887.
Gen Maton Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:21:00 - [79] Ahh yes, and now he's decided to monkey with the standings. I have no idea who's blue any more, though I'm guessing LV, CoW and everyone currently shooting at CA is currently set to blue. That'll be fun. This all sucks, but it has brought us all together. Might take a little time, but we should be back on our feet soon hopefully.
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:22:00 - [80] Edited by: BlackHorizon on 20/02/2007 21:23:53 Unfortunate, but it's even more unfortunate that I saw this coming a long time ago. I am a bit suprised though that he waited this long. I did warn members of Ars C on the other forums a few months ago, if I recall correctly.
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:23:00 - [81] Sucks to lose stuff like that, especially when it's the CEO. If you can't trust him with the corp assets, who can you trust? I hate to go off-topic, but I find it interesting how some players can decry corp theft as lame and dishonourable, but openly endorse spying that results in the loss of assets.
Noshi Amarr Formula-X	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:23:00 - [82] Sorry to hear this, you guys rocked. Good luck in the future.
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:25:00 - [83] Originally by: Gen Maton Ahh yes, and now he's decided to monkey with the standings. I have no idea who's blue any more, though I'm guessing LV, CoW and everyone currently shooting at CA is currently set to blue. That'll be fun. What a ****. But hey, hes still in your corp, soooo.... Research agent, and go hunt him Stay in the corp and make sure he never undocks his pathetic carebear arse again. No matter what you achieve in this game, it'll will always be tainted by the fact you cheated to get there.
Ivoryman Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:30:00 - [84] Sad and tough thing to have happen. I wish you guys the best in rebuilding and returning to the field of battle. Good luck. Ivory CEO- Art of War
Zothike RABBLE-RABBLE	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:36:00 - [85] Sorry to hear that , that suck and ccp must react and forbid to sell char or make the name of the char following all his char past history written down on it, because this kind of stuff will multiply with the amount of money 'empire building' is doing to bring, with capital ships / mothership/titans / outpost big money are put in one ppl hand at a moment or another, then lot of ppl stay honest for 1b but for 10? for 50? and the possibility to buy new blank , clean (more powerful) brand new char is encouraging that.... it's retarded
Zakalwe FireStar Inc Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:40:00 - [86] Originally by: Skrypt I'd probably do the same if I had to deal with Princess Aricia on a daily basis. :) Sexual harrassment. I call Papa Digger to request your ban from this forum Many people of teh "Coalition" have swore to me that Eve got nothing to see with RL issues... I was right to not believe em. Sorry for your loss. Hmmm... not in the name of my Corp/Alliance
Korov Dutor	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:46:00 - [87] Edited by: Korov Dutor on 20/02/2007 21:43:19 For those that don't know, ArsC is mostly composed of pilots from a group of gamers that has far more in common than just Eve. Which, incidentally, made us believe we were somewhat immune to this sort of thing. Now that Achilles has left, we all are standing around asking ourselves where, exactly, he came from, as he certainly wasn't a member before and never was involved in anything other than Eve. Not that I think he planned this from the start. He led us too well for too long, and had many opportunites to run off with far more assets than he did. If nothing else, this should improve our public image a bit, because I think most of the people who took issue with us as a corp mainly did so because Achilles had an...err...abrasive...personality. Oh well...life goes on. Some of the brightest moments in our corp's history were when we were all flying T1 frig and cruiser blobs becuase we were too poor to afford anything else. I guess we get to re-live that for a while. (and how do I get my corp+alliance to show up, dammit! Ars C -> CA if it wasn't obvious...)
Xeron Silverblade Esthar Industries	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:46:00 - [88] Originally by: Exortius Amarrus There is a special circle of hell reserved for traitors and thieves. true that is.. sry to hear about such things.. good luck with rebuilding.
Liet Traep Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:49:00 - [89] I'm sorry to hear about your loss. Corp thievery is the lowest of the low. Maybe someone should start a directory of corp thieves and scammers. That way future corps can know never to hire these people on.
c0rn1 Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:49:00 - [90] I bet the CEO was annoyed by Princess Aricia's consumption on Sensor Boster IIs so he decided to grab the cash before it's invested into a BPo of those :D x x x x x x x x x x x x x x Life's a waste of time ...
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:49:00 - [91] This isn't the way we want you to die I'm sorry to hear what happened and good luck sorting yourselves out. [EVE TASK BAR?]
Gen Maton Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:50:00 - [92] Originally by: Korov Dutor Edited by: Korov Dutor on 20/02/2007 21:43:19 Oh well...life goes on. Some of the brightest moments in our corp's history were when we were all flying T1 frig and cruiser blobs becuase we were too poor to afford anything else. I guess we get to re-live that for a while. And we have been flying with the goons recently. We'll fit right in.
Mary Pong	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:53:00 - [93] Originally by: Kozak What a scumbag. Even though this is a game, it reflects on you as a person. Hope you guys recover and keep the fight going. OMG! I laughed so hard at your sig I pee'd my pants... You owe me one set of Tech2 Levis ;)
Steve Dave Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:55:00 - [94] <3 Ars C. As I've said to quite a few of you today, this is only a minor set back, you've only lost virtual assets. You still have the players, and the parts are greater than the sum. You'll be back up and running in no time. Originally by: Korov Dutor (and how do I get my corp+alliance to show up, dammit! Ars C -> CA if it wasn't obvious...) click on the Forums link on the left, you should see a Settings link (as long as you are logged in). Check the tick boxes to show corp and alliance mate - and you'll be golden
Adrianus Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:58:00 - [95] /me accidentally spams Steve Dave with corp invites
The Assyrian Mound of Severed Heads	Posted - 2007.02.20 22:03:00 - [96] Edited by: The Assyrian on 20/02/2007 22:01:03 So, when someone scams an auction, or ganks a carebear, or whatever else -- that's all completely copacetic, but this isn't? How often are people mocked or laughed at for getting taken advantage of in deals or fights? I'm failing to see the fine moral distinctions people are making. Sometimes stealing and taking advantage of people is okay, and sometimes it isn't? I see people from alliances here posting condolences that have cheated in various ways themselves right and left, and who worship the GHSC, but this is some especially lame thing? I don't really get it. That said, I don't cheat, never would, and would never even think to do something like this corp theft. But it's funny to see people who, in other circumstances, praising those other things being so critical here. Personally, I'd like to see the general tenor of conduct in Eve raised. More and more, it just seems like whatever you can get away with, you should. By that logic, this guy just made off with multiple billions. Good for him, I guess, at least by that reasoning. I don't agree with it, but plenty of other people do -- including people who have posted in this thread.
Kal'Thuris Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 22:04:00 - [97] SD: we want you back!!!
R'adeh Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.02.20 22:08:00 - [98] Wow, a CEO robbing all his members...kinda lame The CEO is probably the person people trust the most, so it's kinda surprising it was him doing it. I hope you get back on your feet soon. Don't worry, ISK isn't everything, you'll recover _______________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp.
Trom Zatagnia Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 22:20:00 - [99] Originally by: Gen Maton Originally by: Korov Dutor Edited by: Korov Dutor on 20/02/2007 21:43:19 Oh well...life goes on. Some of the brightest moments in our corp's history were when we were all flying T1 frig and cruiser blobs becuase we were too poor to afford anything else. I guess we get to re-live that for a while. And we have been flying with the goons recently. We'll fit right in. Hey Achilles, shut it. Thanks.
Adrianus Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 22:30:00 - [100] Originally by: Trom Zatagnia Originally by: Gen Maton Originally by: Korov Dutor Edited by: Korov Dutor on 20/02/2007 21:43:19 Oh well...life goes on. Some of the brightest moments in our corp's history were when we were all flying T1 frig and cruiser blobs becuase we were too poor to afford anything else. I guess we get to re-live that for a while. And we have been flying with the goons recently. We'll fit right in. Hey Achilles, shut it. Thanks.
Rahn Sohwant Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 22:35:00 - [101] Originally by: The Assyrian ... I see people from alliances here posting condolences that have cheated in various ways themselves right and left, and who worship the GHSC, but this is some especially lame thing? I don't really get it. ... I think the thing that is so jarring about this is that it wasn't like 'Annnddd, 20 Feb is the day I unveil my evil plan to clear out the corp and screw you all over. I've been planning it since the start! BWAHAHAHA!' It seems more like he's just had a tantrum and is packing up his toys and going home, except he's taking everyone elses toys too. Not to mention screwing up standings and generally doing everything he can to rub salt in the wound. He's no master scam artist, he's just an unstable baby. To be honest, the signs of his instability have always been there, and it's true that we kind of let this happen, but often the best leaders are those that are able to walk the razors edge of their own madness. This is posted from someone without a long history in the corp, but with a long history in the group most of ARS C's membership is drawn from. It's gratifying to see from the posts in here that most of Eve know what kind of a group we are and are wishing us well in the challenges we now face.
Aiolos Caci Caldari British Space Corporation	Posted - 2007.02.20 22:35:00 - [102] Sad, very sad. Pick a better CEO next time I guess.
Fabienne Runestar Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 22:38:00 - [103] Originally by: Trom Zatagnia Originally by: Gen Maton Originally by: Korov Dutor Edited by: Korov Dutor on 20/02/2007 21:43:19 Oh well...life goes on. Some of the brightest moments in our corp's history were when we were all flying T1 frig and cruiser blobs becuase we were too poor to afford anything else. I guess we get to re-live that for a while. And we have been flying with the goons recently. We'll fit right in. Hey Achilles, shut it. Thanks. Hey Gen is in no way shape or form Achilles. Sorry man, fix your post. ---
Major Stormer Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.02.20 22:39:00 - [104] One of the more odd things ive heard today. Good luck with rebuilding your corp.
etheris Gallente H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.20 22:44:00 - [105] Flown with Ars C since the Huzzah days. Nothing but respect for the corp and its members. Keep safe out there, hope to see you around.
Athelas Loraiel Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2007.02.20 22:53:00 - [106] Is there any Hell we can post names of thieves to rot for eternity?? We need that as a sticky, or as a hall of infamous. -------------- Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] -Oiri Yusko
Kaninrail Caldari Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 22:55:00 - [107] Achilles was always, always, an *******. However, until today, I don't think that anyone in the corp doubted his intentions as our leader in the slightest. He was always focused 100% on what would make the corp stronger, and because of that, even though he was incredibly tactless, most of us would've followed him to hell and back. And then he threw a hissy fit and did this. It is almost impossible to describe how much of a blind-side this was to anyone who hasn't been in Ars C for a while. Regardless, all that he took was virtual goods, and all that we lost was one friend, who... if he was willing to do this to 150+ people who trust him, I cannot see as much of a loss. In return, our player base has become more unified, and more determined to overcome what he did to us. Still, I almost hope Dante is right. The man deserves the 9th ring for his actions this day. --------------------------------------
Matrices Reborn Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 22:55:00 - [108] We will be back.
Kantoren Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 23:45:00 - [109] /signed Almost typed "singed" there, which would probably also have been appropriate, come to think of it.
Dr Einkeisel Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.20 23:49:00 - [110] Although you are my enemy, really does suck to be robbed by your CEO because there isn't really much you can do. So GL with the new corp and hope to be shooting you soon
Tequilapepper Amarr Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.20 23:55:00 - [111] You are on the "wrong side" but still if we'll found those gentlement in space we'll send you the corpses. That kind of stuff really s*x bigtime, especially from the CEO. regards Teq FIX Grunt
Elle D Caldari Ars Caelestis	Posted - 2007.02.21 00:05:00 - [112] Would anyone else who considers himself emotionally unstable plz leave the corp. Thanks! ...and we're also going to have to ask you to leave the game. Yeah, sorry about that but we just don't have time for you. ...btw you should probably just sign off on human contact in general. I've seen it do wonders for others.
Krystian Caldari No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.02.21 00:05:00 - [113] Edited by: Krystian on 21/02/2007 00:02:32 This doesnt suprise me with Achilles. After his erratic behaviour right before he left Huzzah I knew something was up. Then his personality to me and many ex-Huzzah became (your creative deragatory adjective+noun here). I saw him repeat it again and again being mean spirited. Now to reword qoute what he told me in local as we fired on his wcstabbed caracal 'Say goodbye to EvE' (changed Axiom to EvE, lmao) Ars C no matter what people said about you guys you where and are still great bunch of pilots. I never had trouble with you. I am deeply sorry and hope you come out wiser and richer after this lame underhanded attack. I know you will.
Hertford Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 00:28:00 - [114] Well, many thanks for all the messages of support, especially those we're currently hostile with. (And I might as well get one final use out of the sig.)
Grimpak Gallente Twisted Attitude Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.02.21 00:37:00 - [115] well this sucks GL ArsC! the voices are with ya \o\ ------- Originally by: Tiuwaz for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons
Goca Minmatar Steel Frontier	Posted - 2007.02.21 00:44:00 - [116] Feel your pain guys, nothing worse then when douchebags like this think they can just play with people's time and money the way they do.. I would advocate a stickied forum topic with a list of all the ropesucker's names listed in big bright red letters so other corps/alliances know who never to consider as a part of their team. Sad part is, most of these people are just as big of scum bags in real life as in the game.. I is Goca
trk4 Amarr Freeform Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.21 00:46:00 - [117] Originally by: The Assyrian Edited by: The Assyrian on 20/02/2007 22:01:03 So, when someone scams an auction, or ganks a carebear, or whatever else -- that's all completely copacetic, but this isn't? How often are people mocked or laughed at for getting taken advantage of in deals or fights? I'm failing to see the fine moral distinctions people are making. Sometimes stealing and taking advantage of people is okay, and sometimes it isn't? I see people from alliances here posting condolences that have cheated in various ways themselves right and left, and who worship the GHSC, but this is some especially lame thing? I don't really get it. That said, I don't cheat, never would, and would never even think to do something like this corp theft. But it's funny to see people who, in other circumstances, praising those other things being so critical here. Personally, I'd like to see the general tenor of conduct in Eve raised. More and more, it just seems like whatever you can get away with, you should. By that logic, this guy just made off with multiple billions. Good for him, I guess, at least by that reasoning. I don't agree with it, but plenty of other people do -- including people who have posted in this thread. Nice post. Although the situation itself sucks, it is valid gameplay. Kinda like shooting n00bs at a station when they loot cans you drop sitting nearby in a battleship. Lame but still legal.
Justin Marr Macabre Votum	Posted - 2007.02.21 01:11:00 - [118] Sorry to hear 'bout that Tessa. I know ArsC and this is nothing but a minor setback...doesn't even qualify as 'only a flesh wound!'. Come to think of it...I never really liked him when I was with you guys. Permanent KOS. Regards, JM A name doesn't make a corp...it's the pilots. Long live OCC/EVSC. Ignorance is Curable, Stupidity is Forever.
MrClock Gallente ClockTower Industries	Posted - 2007.02.21 01:23:00 - [119] Sucks
Adeptus mecanicus The Flaming Sideburn's	Posted - 2007.02.21 01:35:00 - [120] sorry fore your loss, it's a bitter experience. hug's from the norwegians in the sideburns to princess. i know she will even the score
Korov Dutor	Posted - 2007.02.21 01:59:00 - [121] Originally by: trk4 Originally by: The Assyrian Edited by: The Assyrian on 20/02/2007 22:01:03 So, when someone scams an auction, or ganks a carebear, or whatever else -- that's all completely copacetic, but this isn't? How often are people mocked or laughed at for getting taken advantage of in deals or fights? I'm failing to see the fine moral distinctions people are making. Sometimes stealing and taking advantage of people is okay, and sometimes it isn't? I see people from alliances here posting condolences that have cheated in various ways themselves right and left, and who worship the GHSC, but this is some especially lame thing? I don't really get it. That said, I don't cheat, never would, and would never even think to do something like this corp theft. But it's funny to see people who, in other circumstances, praising those other things being so critical here. Personally, I'd like to see the general tenor of conduct in Eve raised. More and more, it just seems like whatever you can get away with, you should. By that logic, this guy just made off with multiple billions. Good for him, I guess, at least by that reasoning. I don't agree with it, but plenty of other people do -- including people who have posted in this thread. Nice post. Although the situation itself sucks, it is valid gameplay. Kinda like shooting n00bs at a station when they loot cans you drop sitting nearby in a battleship. Lame but still legal. I don't really see the problem. Nobody is claiming he cheated...we're not going to petition him, and it wouldn't do any good if we tried. That doesn't mean we can't hate him for what he did. Same as you can hate the guy who pods your ship...he didn't break any rules, but that doesn't mean you can't call him an ass (well, maybe you can't...given the word filter). 150+ people put their trust and a year and a half worth of work in this guys hands...of course we're gonna be ****ed when he throws it all away. Sure, it's all a part of the game. But it still blows.
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.02.21 02:18:00 - [122] So according to some posters, this is how EvE should be played: Exploiting game mechanics to rip off a corp = bad Exploiting game mechanics to spy on someone's TS = good Exploiting game mechanics to offline a POS = good Exploiting game mechanics to kill an afk titan = good Exploiting game mechanics to log out of a bubble = bad Exploiting game mechanics to logon trap = bad
Evod Pringles Inc. YouWhat	Posted - 2007.02.21 02:27:00 - [123] Originally by: Rahn Sohwant Originally by: The Assyrian ... I see people from alliances here posting condolences that have cheated in various ways themselves right and left, and who worship the GHSC, but this is some especially lame thing? I don't really get it. ... I think the thing that is so jarring about this is that it wasn't like 'Annnddd, 20 Feb is the day I unveil my evil plan to clear out the corp and screw you all over. I've been planning it since the start! BWAHAHAHA!' It seems more like he's just had a tantrum and is packing up his toys and going home, except he's taking everyone elses toys too. Not to mention screwing up standings and generally doing everything he can to rub salt in the wound. He's no master scam artist, he's just an unstable baby. To be honest, the signs of his instability have always been there, and it's true that we kind of let this happen, but often the best leaders are those that are able to walk the razors edge of their own madness. This is posted from someone without a long history in the corp, but with a long history in the group most of ARS C's membership is drawn from. It's gratifying to see from the posts in here that most of Eve know what kind of a group we are and are wishing us well in the challenges we now face. He's thrown his tantrums before, too.... Sorry to hear that it ended like this. Good luck in the new corp, guys. "The future is exciting"
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.02.21 02:31:00 - [124] Originally by: NATMav So according to some posters, this is how EvE should be played: Exploiting game mechanics to rip off a corp = bad Exploiting game mechanics to spy on someone's TS = good Exploiting game mechanics to offline a POS = good Exploiting game mechanics to kill an afk titan = good Exploiting game mechanics to log out of a bubble = bad Exploiting game mechanics to logon trap = bad What if you're one of those posters that believes all of the above are generally undesirable to do? ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
couger malthas Amarr No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.02.21 02:34:00 - [125] i remember when CA was remade, i warned you about achilles, and now look what happens. now i always wanted to say this i told you so so sorry bout what happend guys realy i am. hope you get back up on your feet and that ***** homo ass ** dies and burns in hell. have a good day ^^ _______________________________________________
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:02:00 - [126] Sorry to hear about this. Its sad when someone abuses their power in a way that hurts everyone. Its bad enough to steal for virtual goods, its even worse when you try to screw up things so that your guys involved in a war can't do anything :(. Normally I wouldn't suggest this. However since he is changing standings which is more than just corp theft and affects the war greatly, I would suggest perhaps every member of your corp filing a harassment petition against him. Hey might not do anything, but who knows maybe they'll ban him and though you probably won't get the stuff back at least he won't be able to enjoy it. Galactic Express Recruitment Post Thoughts expressed are mine and
ph33rf4ct0ry Minmatar Hookers From Mars	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:19:00 - [127] Originally by: NATMav So according to some posters, this is how EvE should be played: Exploiting game mechanics to rip off a corp = bad Exploiting game mechanics to spy on someone's TS = good Exploiting game mechanics to offline a POS = good Exploiting game mechanics to kill an afk titan = good Exploiting game mechanics to log out of a bubble = bad Exploiting game mechanics to logon trap = bad Making retarded posts... PRICELESS Member of the POST WITH YOUR MAIN SOCIETY
Brunswick2 eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:09:00 - [128] Sorry to hear about this guys. A bunch of the guys in AWECO that I knew were top notch. I wish you all the best in the future.
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Swarm R i s e	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:20:00 - [129] thats just messed up. its one thing for a thief/spy to infiltrate ranks to wreak havoc... but for a CEO to do it... just wrong. compile a list of the most despicable things you could do to one person or a group in eve. the top of the list, the worst of offences, is when a leader betrays the trust placed in him by the ppl that have rallied to his cause. kinda reminds me of my last alliance (coughKOScoughdemogodcough) oooo, had something in my throat there. ------------------------ From here on out i'm pretty sure CAOD forums = Jerry Springer
Tipz NexAstrum Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2007.02.21 05:13:00 - [130] That sux, I wish you the best in rebuildng. You've got a great bunch of ppl, I'm sure you'll pull thru! -------------------------------------------
Trinity Faetal 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.02.21 05:14:00 - [131] hmmm -- Enjoy The Silence
Bienurdau Hywoaf Minmatar Matari Holo News Network	Posted - 2007.02.21 05:16:00 - [132] We hear at MHNN are sad to hear this news. We wish Tessa and her friends the very best, and hope they recover quickly. Perhaps a post in the Crime and Punishments section is warranted for the offenders....
Ulesi Metal Winter Eastern Star Federation	Posted - 2007.02.21 06:01:00 - [133] Sorry to hear this, hope you guys can recover and move on.
Ackaroth Gallente Plundering Penguins	Posted - 2007.02.21 06:13:00 - [134] Terribly unfortunate, more so because of current war/hostilities. Best of luck is wished, and sure hope you guys take advantage of this to form stronger bonds to your fellow pilots. Originally by: Hamatitio "Oregon Trail ALliance [Wagon]" Description: You Caught Malaria and died. Plundering Penguins is recruiting. Convo/Evemail, or join channel PING1 in game.
Kam SingDu'k Singularity.	Posted - 2007.02.21 06:37:00 - [135] Originally by: Archilies Edited by: Archilies on 20/02/2007 20:48:16 Originally by: Tessa Vaako Achilles class, nearly as good as the 50isk post :P Getting screwed over by your CEO must be the worst feeling, still if he was a jerk then....whatever Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Taiatia (mods@ccpgames)
Shardrael Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.02.21 07:07:00 - [136] Edited by: Shardrael on 21/02/2007 07:04:39 to former flying mates, I am truly sorry something like this has happened by one you trusted so much........ it truly is a shame best of luck in reforming however you are able edit: Originally by: NATMav So according to some posters, this is how EvE should be played: Exploiting game mechanics to rip off a corp = bad Exploiting game mechanics to spy on someone's TS = bad Exploiting game mechanics to offline a POS = bad Exploiting game mechanics to kill an afk titan = bad Exploiting game mechanics to log out of a bubble = bad Exploiting game mechanics to logon trap = bad fixed it for ya Originally by: Stamm Some people might have been convinced by the official announcement posted by Steelrat, but not me, I wasn't convinced until some random alt posts a brand new thread.
Hesed Hamartia.	Posted - 2007.02.21 08:46:00 - [137] That sucks and all, but I have no pity for you. It's a cut throat capitalist world, and you shouldn't bargain with people more than they have collateral to back it up. It's better to accept that you chose what happened by trusting the guy, because then you retain the ability to choose what you do next. He traded in his cards for some isk. I guess it got to a point where that seemed a reasonable exchange to him. It's up to you, me, and the next guy to know when to pull out of any board. If you worked without compensation beyond a promise, then you got what you asked for: words. Best of luck in your future decisions.
killerco Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.02.21 08:50:00 - [138] Originally by: Tessa Vaako Early this morning, Ars Caelestis was hit by a corp thief of the worst kind. The person who was a part of community and served us as an excellent leader has taken leave of his senses and not only stripped all members of their roles but has also taken possession of all the corporate ISK and assets. Additioally he has seized over seven billion ISK that was being donated for a T2 BPO purchasing program. This person was not one whom we thought would ever be a problem, a kind and honest person who was always looking out for his corporation. As you can guess, this was the CEO of the corporation. I will not go into details of what happened. Needless to say, he disagreed with the rest of his corp, and decided to cash in all his chips and leave the corp with nothing. As such, Achilles Thorongmor, Garion Thorongmor, and Bon Mot are now considered corp thieves. The Ars Caelestis community will go on. We are already forming a new corp, and from the ashes of the old we will rise again to higher and loftier goals. I warn the rest of EVE, do not buy these characters as they will always be KOS to those of us who will never forget how he treated those loyal to him. Any questions feel free to contact either myself or Fabienne Runestar in game. That sucks Tessa! You guys rocked in ASCN good luck with reforming. Don't be a great man just be a man
Jagged VanEyck Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 08:57:00 - [139] condolences and good luck guys. someone go shove an avatar up his bum... ----------------------------------------------- "No drone left behind..." MercU
Zrevak Ashek Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:50:00 - [140] I allways had an uneasy feeling about him just from reading his posts in the Huzzah leadership forums. A ticking timebomb imho. With Tessa Vaako as CEO, I believe u'll still be able to recover
Ishmael Hansen No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:03:00 - [141] O/ Tessa 7 bill and all corp assets, small price to get rid of Achilles. You will be back stronger, good luck. Most of us knew he was a ****, but still a bit surprise of him betraying the corp.
hybridundertaker Amarr Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:11:00 - [142] arsC has been a fine corps allready long ago... i dont know how much thanks to AT, but however he had no right of taking justice into his hands ceo or no ceo. Few bils in todays eve isnt large sum for corporation who has a bunch of dedicated members like arcs c have. Most ppl thou thought AT was a moron, now they are proven right. EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER
Vinhod Arkar United Systems Navy	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:23:00 - [143] Sorry for your loss guys (and girls). Nothing but good things to say about you from our time in ASCN. Rebuild well, I've no doubt you'll do grand Vin
Sukkina Bohlsax Caldari Fremen Warriors	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:32:00 - [144] BUWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHA this made my day just that much brighter! zzomg :)
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:33:00 - [145] Originally by: HankMurphy thats just messed up. its one thing for a thief/spy to infiltrate ranks to wreak havoc... but for a CEO to do it... just wrong. I agree, what is really bad here is the total betrayal of trust, it's like getting mugged by your best friend.
Druadan Gallente Aristotle Enterprises Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:59:00 - [146] Edited by: Druadan on 21/02/2007 11:57:08 Saddened to hear of another corp thief activity. Achilles Thorongmor, Garion Thorongmor, and Bon Mot are now -10'd and KOS. It is one thing to take your own assets and leave a corp in a major disagreement, but to take the assets your corpmates have been working towards building? This is entirely unacceptable and is among the most heinous of crimes. __________________________________________________ "A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire
Fillmeup Gallente Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:03:00 - [147] I don't know a lot about your corp, however corp theft is, and will always be reprehensible in my eyes. Regardless of being vitual assets, the relationship ties you all had were real, and it sucks that someone would have so little regard for their mates. You could do the 'glass is half full..' thing though - thank-fxxx that particular character is out of your lives. We lost around 60bn isk due to corp theft over the years, and it bites. It's hard to find a good balance between player freedom / flexibility and corp security, and almost impossible to guard against a rogue CEO, but I'm guessing you will all grow from this and be better for it. I know we radically changed as a result and have benefitted massively in-turn. Good luck
Tremektus Ars ex Discordia	Posted - 2007.02.22 14:00:00 - [148] Gentlemen, we can rebuild. We have the technology. We have the capability to build EVE's best corp. Ars ex Discordia will be that corp. Better than it was before. Better, stronger, faster.
Brinstead Ars ex Discordia	Posted - 2007.02.22 14:14:00 - [149] Originally by: Tremektus Gentlemen, we can rebuild. We have the technology. We have the capability to build EVE's best corp. Ars ex Discordia will be that corp. Better than it was before. Better, stronger, faster. Yeah, but we have to go 'nananananananana' every time we go into warp!
alpheon Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.22 14:37:00 - [150] silly mods, I'm part of the corp in question! /me reaches for the apple. This signature needs replacement
Falco Sparverius Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.02.22 15:14:00 - [151] Originally by: Brinstead Originally by: Tremektus Gentlemen, we can rebuild. We have the technology. We have the capability to build EVE's best corp. Ars ex Discordia will be that corp. Better than it was before. Better, stronger, faster. Yeah, but we have to go 'nananananananana' every time we go into warp! All fraps of you guys will have to be in slow motion now.
Ryka Raeth Ars ex Discordia	Posted - 2007.02.22 15:24:00 - [152] given what one of our members has been doing w/ nanos, instabs, rigs, and a set of snakes on his crow, you may just HAVE to!
Emmanuel Terentius Ars ex Discordia	Posted - 2007.02.22 16:13:00 - [153] Originally by: Brinstead Originally by: Tremektus Gentlemen, we can rebuild. We have the technology. We have the capability to build EVE's best corp. Ars ex Discordia will be that corp. Better than it was before. Better, stronger, faster. Yeah, but we have to go 'nananananananana' every time we go into warp! Is that like 'fofofofofo' but with different letters?
ErbUs Minmatar Freedom Guard Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.22 16:56:00 - [154] who's the new ceo? Freedom Guard shows the love to our CA brothers, we heard about the backstab in alliance chat, alot of people were wondering what was happening. yea crappy sig, gonna have to feather the edges
Gen Maton Ars ex Discordia	Posted - 2007.02.22 16:59:00 - [155] Tessa Vaako is the ARSED CEO.
Terakin Bisto	Posted - 2007.02.22 17:44:00 - [156] -Former ArsC, not yet ARSED I LOVE the 'nananananananana' Thing. BRILLIANT Also, the Universe is about to get ARSED, and I'm going to love it. Our attitude is just so much better now. I LOVE YOU GUYS! (in a totally platonic, non-*** way...cept you Princess, I really do love you ;p)
Tessa Vaako Ars ex Discordia	Posted - 2007.02.22 18:21:00 - [157] Edited by: Tessa Vaako on 22/02/2007 18:17:27 As the Ars Caelestis COO, when Ars C was forcably disbanded, I took control and am now the Ars ex Discordia CEO. At the moment, Tremektus is a Puppet CEO for the next week or two, simply because he has the skills to form the proper sized corp. Fabienne Runestar was "voluntered" to be the second in command. Any questions, comments, or good luck wishes can be sent to me. All death threats and hate mail can be sent to Fabienne. The Future Is Exciting --
matty01 Killson Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.22 18:26:00 - [158] Edited by: matty01 on 22/02/2007 18:22:57 Originally by: Tessa Vaako Edited by: Tessa Vaako on 22/02/2007 18:17:27 As the Ars Caelestis COO, when Ars C was forcably disbanded, I took control and am now the Ars ex Discordia CEO. At the moment, Tremektus is a Puppet CEO for the next week or two, simply because he has the skills to form the proper sized corp. Fabienne Runestar was "voluntered" to be the second in command. Any questions, comments, or good luck wishes can be sent to me. All death threats and hate mail can be sent to Fabienne. The Future Is Exciting nice gl guys edit i think your new battle cry is "nananananananana" whether you want it to be or not :D __________________________
Josiah Bleak Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.02.22 21:25:00 - [159] I can't say I have been too fond of ArsC after the events in Huzzah but such betrayal sucks. Achilles always struck me as a highly unstable and disturbed individual, who many in the Huzzah leadership were really glad to see the back of, despite the straitened circumstances in which it left us. He's now a rich disturbed individual but he's also a marked man among many in the eve community. Good luck with your newly reformed and without doubt much better off corp. Josiah Bleak
Fabienne Runestar Ars ex Discordia	Posted - 2007.02.22 23:59:00 - [160] Originally by: Josiah Bleak ...He's now a rich disturbed individual but he's also a marked man among many in the eve community. Good luck with your newly reformed and without doubt much better off corp. Josiah Bleak Thanks for the well wishes Josiah. He's not as rich as he could have been. I will say that several Arsian who were still in ArsC were able to liberate several hangars, and then several billion isk worth of ships from one of our ratting/mining POSes. Also the ARSED community wishes to thank the gentleman who convinced the former CEO of our corp to sell 4b isk worth of ships in a corporate auction that ended with highest bid well below the 4billion that he thought he'd get. :) While we will see none of the money and generally discourage auction scams, we do salute the auctionee for letting us know about his achievement. We can hope those ships are now going to a new home, in the war on BoB. ---
Happysin Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.02.23 01:14:00 - [161] can't believe they pulled me out of retirement for this... Heh, it amazes me how I used to be one of the old men of ArsC, and now a good portion of them have skill points that completely eclipse me. As well, such is the way of being ARSED.
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.02.23 09:34:00 - [162] Edited by: Thor Xian on 23/02/2007 09:33:47 I can't be [ARSED] _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Material Defender Got Corp?
Grimpak Gallente Twisted Attitude Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.02.23 13:56:00 - [163] tbh tessa, i'm now, more than ever, tempted to join you guys. ------- Originally by: Tiuwaz for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons
Garia666 Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.23 14:00:00 - [164] I hate copr thieves. he should have stept down.. ->My Vids<- CCP= More skilz more moneh!
Kozak Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.02.23 16:13:00 - [165] Has your old CEO said anything about this? Or is he going to be a hermit living the rest of his lonely EVE live in empire. Too many pages to read through...
Smalum Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.23 16:19:00 - [166] Sad to hear about the theft I wish you guys good luck, and to rise again with new strength and unity. Recruitment Post
Princess Aricia Gallente Ars ex Discordia Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.23 19:23:00 - [167] Originally by: Terakin Bisto -Former ArsC, not yet ARSED I LOVE the 'nananananananana' Thing. BRILLIANT Also, the Universe is about to get ARSED, and I'm going to love it. Our attitude is just so much better now. I LOVE YOU GUYS! (in a totally platonic, non-*** way...cept you Princess, I really do love you ;p)
George Costanza Ars ex Discordia Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.23 21:46:00 - [168] Edited by: George Costanza on 23/02/2007 21:44:50 Originally by: Kozak Has your old CEO said anything about this? Or is he going to be a hermit living the rest of his lonely EVE live in empire. Too many pages to read through... Our spineless former leader (hi there Mr. Special Forces, ooooh you are scary clerk) hasn't said squat since telling us all to F-off. That maybe due to the utter failure to really pull off anything that he attempted by his little hissy fit, ironic that one of his saying s when someone was complaining was WAHWAHWAH. Let's see, he got owned by a T1 Vexor while flying a T2 ship, got scammed for about 3.9 bil by falling for the corp auction scam and selling 4bil worth of corp stuff for 1mil, and we got lots of stuff out of the POS because Captain Fantastic was too stupid to lock it down properly. Also I believe he is being podded mercilessly by pretty much all of EVE. I think I have covered everything, and lastly if he hoped to destroy the members of ars c, his departure has been a blessing and we are stronger now that the cancer is gone. All in all a cheap price methinks. I don't speak for ARSED in any official capacity, but we often complain about the scammers, cheats, exploiters, etc. but we have seen the other side of EVE and I would like to thank everyone for their kind words and support and donations. You guys rock!
Fabienne Runestar Ars ex Discordia Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.24 23:43:00 - [169] I just want everyone to know, 2 of Achilles Charcters are up for auction in the forsale section of this forum. Anyone who buys these characters, that being Bon Mot and Garion Thoronmonger will never have any fun with them. These characters and any associated with Achilles Thoromonger will be hunted down and killed in game no mater what system they are in. Think about it, you'll have a 200 man corp, plus the backings of a 2300 man alliance of pure PVPers who will make it our goals to see these characters never see fun play again. This is fair warning, since the sale forum will not allow people to give due warnings in the threads there. Any questions PM Fabienne Runestar in game ---
Bon Mot Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.02.27 03:24:00 - [170] Edited by: Bon Mot on 27/02/2007 03:20:51 Originally by: Fabienne Runestar I just want everyone to know, 2 of Achilles Charcters are up for auction in the forsale section of this forum. Anyone who buys these characters, that being Bon Mot and Garion Thoronmonger will never have any fun with them. These characters and any associated with Achilles Thoromonger will be hunted down and killed in game no mater what system they are in. Think about it, you'll have a 200 man corp, plus the backings of a 2300 man alliance of pure PVPers who will make it our goals to see these characters never see fun play again. This is fair warning, since the sale forum will not allow people to give due warnings in the threads there. Any questions PM Fabienne Runestar in game sigh Silly me didnt know about this, erm.... Is there anyway we can sort this out like me phoning one of you (in a high up position) as im guessing my accent will be different anyway... I come from Britain (South East) I didnt buy this via the sell forum but rather through an ingame sell channel and then it was done via eve-mails, was told name was disclosed due to character's old corp not knowing he was leaving... grr.. erm, how can we resolve this?
Bloedkopp Minmatar Simian Cell Systems	Posted - 2007.02.27 11:19:00 - [171] Originally by: Bon Mot Edited by: Bon Mot on 27/02/2007 03:20:51 Originally by: Fabienne Runestar I just want everyone to know, 2 of Achilles Charcters are up for auction in the forsale section of this forum. Anyone who buys these characters, that being Bon Mot and Garion Thoronmonger will never have any fun with them. These characters and any associated with Achilles Thoromonger will be hunted down and killed in game no mater what system they are in. Think about it, you'll have a 200 man corp, plus the backings of a 2300 man alliance of pure PVPers who will make it our goals to see these characters never see fun play again. This is fair warning, since the sale forum will not allow people to give due warnings in the threads there. Any questions PM Fabienne Runestar in game sigh Silly me didnt know about this, erm.... Is there anyway we can sort this out like me phoning one of you (in a high up position) as im guessing my accent will be different anyway... I come from Britain (South East) I didnt buy this via the sell forum but rather through an ingame sell channel and then it was done via eve-mails, was told name was disclosed due to character's old corp not knowing he was leaving... grr.. erm, how can we resolve this? So you are ARSED now
pxmars Caldari Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.02.27 11:46:00 - [172] sorry to hear about your troubles. I hope to see you reborn into a better corp.. ccp should look at this problem, theifs might be a part of the game but that dont make it right. But I sure ccp with their High Morals and commitment to fair play will deal with this Problem about the same time I manage to grow another private part in the middle of my forehead.
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.27 12:39:00 - [173] Originally by: Fabienne Runestar I just want everyone to know, 2 of Achilles Charcters are up for auction in the forsale section of this forum. Anyone who buys these characters, that being Bon Mot and Garion Thoronmonger will never have any fun with them. These characters and any associated with Achilles Thoromonger will be hunted down and killed in game no mater what system they are in. Think about it, you'll have a 200 man corp, plus the backings of a 2300 man alliance of pure PVPers who will make it our goals to see these characters never see fun play again. This is fair warning, since the sale forum will not allow people to give due warnings in the threads there. Any questions PM Fabienne Runestar in game you guys are too much. Ok we all said how sorry we are and good luck to you (see my previous post 2 pages up or something) but you add post after post of playgrouns insults and empty threats... ffs my brother is liek 17 and he ll liek beat you all up if I dont get in the squad loooosseeerrs!111 2300 pvpers all chasing after bonmot for the LoL of LoL... sympathies for your plight again but you are tempting to buy these characters lol Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Loyal Servant Caldari The Short Bus Squad The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2007.02.27 15:09:00 - [174] I never liked him, I never trusted him and to be honest, I found him to be arrogant, high and mighty and just not a nice person. Then we get into a scuffle with -A- and cheats that they are... And he decides to pick his corp up and leave us standing. Traitor, oh yes.... I felt like popping a few of those haulers as they left the V2 system, but I did not think our new CEO (who came after Hans?) or Michelle Reed would have it. (YARR I say!) Good luck under new management, I hope your corp heals and moves on. (On another note, if some of you have shares can you not VOTE HIS ASS OUT?) TSBS - Eve's Premier podding service!
DarkSim Field Bellum Aeternus	Posted - 2007.02.27 15:30:00 - [175] You're kidding?! Damn, what an ass!
Mactire Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.02.27 16:06:00 - [176] Originally by: Fabienne Runestar I just want everyone to know, 2 of Achilles Charcters are up for auction in the forsale section of this forum. Anyone who buys these characters, that being Bon Mot and Garion Thoronmonger will never have any fun with them. These characters and any associated with Achilles Thoromonger will be hunted down and killed in game no mater what system they are in. Think about it, you'll have a 200 man corp, plus the backings of a 2300 man alliance of pure PVPers who will make it our goals to see these characters never see fun play again. This is fair warning, since the sale forum will not allow people to give due warnings in the threads there. Any questions PM Fabienne Runestar in game Linky? Mac
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.02.27 17:33:00 - [177] Originally by: Crellion Originally by: Fabienne Runestar I just want everyone to know, 2 of Achilles Charcters are up for auction in the forsale section of this forum. Anyone who buys these characters, that being Bon Mot and Garion Thoronmonger will never have any fun with them. These characters and any associated with Achilles Thoromonger will be hunted down and killed in game no mater what system they are in. Think about it, you'll have a 200 man corp, plus the backings of a 2300 man alliance of pure PVPers who will make it our goals to see these characters never see fun play again. This is fair warning, since the sale forum will not allow people to give due warnings in the threads there. Any questions PM Fabienne Runestar in game you guys are too much. Ok we all said how sorry we are and good luck to you (see my previous post 2 pages up or something) but you add post after post of playgrouns insults and empty threats... ffs my brother is liek 17 and he ll liek beat you all up if I dont get in the squad loooosseeerrs!111 2300 pvpers all chasing after bonmot for the LoL of LoL... sympathies for your plight again but you are tempting to buy these characters lol Huhwhat? _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Material Defender Got Corp?
Tessa Vaako Ars ex Discordia Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 18:30:00 - [178] Mactire - Check the dates on Fab's post. Those auctions have been pulled down. We were able to taint the auctions enough to inconvience our exCEO. Crellion - Bite me. I of course mean that in a polite and affirming manner. Bloedkopp - Exactly. Bon Mot - I know we talked a lot of trash last night. This morning, cooler, more rested heads will prevail. I am content that Bon Mot has traded hands. We will probably shoot you if we see you, but will not activly hunt the character. --
Supay Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.04 03:26:00 - [179] Originally by: NATMav So according to some posters, this is how EvE should be played: Exploiting game mechanics to rip off a corp = bad Exploiting game mechanics to spy on someone's TS = good Exploiting game mechanics to offline a POS = good Exploiting game mechanics to kill an afk titan = good Exploiting game mechanics to log out of a bubble = bad Exploiting game mechanics to logon trap = bad And I see loads of people in here who crowed with delight when ISSN was hit by a longtime Goon undercover agent, corp hangars robbed and POS offlined, yet when it happens to one of their coalition, it suddenly becomes a disgraceful way to behave
papaPadla Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.03.04 03:48:00 - [180] always sad when stuff like this happens... I mean... i just can't see the reason behind such a moove... you want to tell me that someone that obviously knows the game... can actually be interested in haveing 7 bilions? I hope there are some "real" reasons behind it as i just cant getit. You guys will be allright if you just pull as a team. -------------------------------------
matty01 Killson Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.04 05:08:00 - [181] Edited by: matty01 on 04/03/2007 05:04:39 Originally by: Supay Originally by: NATMav So according to some posters, this is how EvE should be played: Exploiting game mechanics to rip off a corp = bad Exploiting game mechanics to spy on someone's TS = good Exploiting game mechanics to offline a POS = good Exploiting game mechanics to kill an afk titan = good Exploiting game mechanics to log out of a bubble = bad Exploiting game mechanics to logon trap = bad yet when it happens to one of their coalition, it suddenly becomes a disgraceful way to behave noob corps ftl, post with your main and its called having friends that have your back...dunno who you are, but i guess you dont know what that's like __________________________
Supay Caldari The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2007.03.04 05:28:00 - [182] Originally by: matty01 Edited by: matty01 on 04/03/2007 05:04:39 Originally by: Supay Originally by: NATMav So according to some posters, this is how EvE should be played: Exploiting game mechanics to rip off a corp = bad Exploiting game mechanics to spy on someone's TS = good Exploiting game mechanics to offline a POS = good Exploiting game mechanics to kill an afk titan = good Exploiting game mechanics to log out of a bubble = bad Exploiting game mechanics to logon trap = bad yet when it happens to one of their coalition, it suddenly becomes a disgraceful way to behave noob corps ftl, post with your main and its called having friends that have your back...dunno who you are, but i guess you dont know what that's like It is my main, I posted during the brief period that I was between corps tonight. Who the hell are you? You only show on the ISS killboard 4 times ever. You obviously fought us hard. Congratulations. Your point makes no sense to me and, after having had IAC as neighbours while I was in ISSN, I know all about having friends like you guys at your back. I've had some fun fights with IAC guys and there's some I like and enjoyed fighting. Others, like you, seem prone to mouth off without checking details and need to check the pod's oxygen supply to their brain.
Audemed The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2007.03.04 06:40:00 - [183] Wow, I knew he was a scumbag, but this is LOW. ------ Currently stationed in Iraq, 280 days left to go! http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0701/audzealotiniraq.jpg Sig Linked. Please resize to within 400*120 pixels. E-mail us with any questions. -ReverendM ([email protected])

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