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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 00:29:00 -
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Like Oblivion or morrowind? Neocron was fun but crashed so much wasnt worth it.
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.21 00:33:00 -
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Vanguard might be, I'm not sure tho. --- http://static.griefwatch.net/gallery/18028383f236b20e4c0f6d7492e58408.gif
Please keep your signature below the 24000 bytes limit.- Thx Pirlouit
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R0ze
Bravehearts Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 00:33:00 -
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Whats the last time you played NC? When I left it (just because of lack of new content (which was kinda supposed to be there)) it was pretty stable.
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 00:38:00 -
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Oh i played it a couple months ago it had a horrible problem with logging in it was nonsense
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R0ze
Bravehearts Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 00:40:00 -
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Ah then just something similar like here :) Was playing more like a half a year ago..
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 00:53:00 -
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Vanguard is targeting sadly
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oykot eniram
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Posted - 2007.02.21 00:58:00 -
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what does "targetting" "none targetting" mean?
Weirda confused 
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Dammar
Amarr Ephorate
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Posted - 2007.02.21 00:59:00 -
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wtf does 'none targeting' mean?
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2007.02.21 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dammar wtf does 'none targeting' mean?
Pretty sure he made it up...
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 01:02:00 -
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Targeting is When you click on something and no matter where you look your attack or spell hits. nontargeting is something like counterstrike or a First person Shooter . Via Oblivion and morrowind
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oykot eniram
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Posted - 2007.02.21 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN Targeting is When you click on something and no matter where you look your attack or spell hits. nontargeting is something like counterstrike or a First person Shooter . Via Oblivion and morrowind
ahh - it looks like that space game (that is going to be in development for 20+ years because it's one guy) doesn't use targetting.
Maybe Pirates of the Burning Sea or Auto Assault don't use it? Not sure.
Are you saying that you would like for EVE to be 'line of sight'? How about missiles?
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 01:13:00 -
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no i wouldnt however i saw a very awsome space game that didnt use targeting leme see if i can find the link
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Vasco Falcon
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.02.21 01:14:00 -
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Huxley - FPS MMORPG coming out sometime this year
Pirates of the burning sea hopefully, indeed hopefully the mmorpg of the year cos i dont see anything else on the horizon :P
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Sorja
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.21 01:17:00 -
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Asheron's Call.
If it's still alive :p ____________________ A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not. |

Dammar
Amarr Ephorate
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Posted - 2007.02.21 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN Targeting is When you click on something and no matter where you look your attack or spell hits. nontargeting is something like counterstrike or a First person Shooter . Via Oblivion and morrowind
ook, well that explains that. 
Dunno can't really think of any, but it's a damn weird characteristic to look for in a game imo.
Neverwinter Nights? ..cant remember if it is lol.
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Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.02.21 01:26:00 -
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Jumpgate was/is a non-targeting space MMOG. The developers sadly sort of dropped it to create that idiocy called 'Auto Assault'.
Was fun while it lasted.
Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 01:35:00 -
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Edited by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN on 21/02/2007 01:33:17 Take a look at this link see B
http://www.planet-xbox.de/img/articles/3584/The-Elder-Scrolls-IV--Oblivion-2.jpg
Its not something odd to look for in a game Oblivion and morrowind have the right idea just needs to be mmorpg.
I didnt like auto Assult, I will always play eve but once in a while need a break to not get tired of the repedative tasks
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Aarth Quake
Minmatar Penatrode
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Posted - 2007.02.21 01:56:00 -
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Planetside is a MMOFPS. Played it for a very long time, kinda miss it now. 
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 02:06:00 -
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hehe planetside was fun but had its limits rather just play CS source
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Azrael Bierce
Cult of Lemen
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Posted - 2007.02.21 02:13:00 -
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D&D Online? I vaguely recall just being able to swing at enemies in beta.
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Colonel Ripper
The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.02.21 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Aarth Quake Planetside is a MMOFPS. Played it for a very long time, kinda miss it now. 
Please do not speak of Planetside, It makes my cry :(
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Tetsujin
Caldari Band of Brosefs GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.21 02:28:00 -
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Man I keep seeing Neocron 2 boxes in game shops, did it change much from beta?
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 02:40:00 -
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Man if it wasnt so insanly unstable it would be awsome
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qui arthell
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Posted - 2007.02.21 03:30:00 -
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Both Asheron's Call and Planetside are still going, but AC does use targeting. Been playing PS a bit lately, since my account seems to be on a promotional free trial for some reason atm.
Auto Assault doesn't use targeting, atleast it didn't during beta.
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w0rmy
Intensive CareBearz
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Posted - 2007.02.21 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn Jumpgate was/is a non-targeting space MMOG. The developers sadly sort of dropped it to create that idiocy called 'Auto Assault'.
Was fun while it lasted.
Jumpgate was THE game!
No matter what you achieve in this game, it'll will always be tainted by the fact you cheated to get there. |

Ryan Scouse'UK
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Posted - 2007.02.21 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tetsujin Man I keep seeing Neocron 2 boxes in game shops, did it change much from beta?
haha wow neocron cant belive people have played it - i played it in beta / capped a PE / played it in neocron 1 , capped a PSI
then played neocron 2 - capped all 4 races 5 slot plasma cannon ftw =P ha
anyways yer the game just lacks things & its gfx sucks ... it did however invent flying ships.. & bombers you could use.. abit like Bf1942.. but the game is full of bugs & gets boring very quick PVP in that game is not very good when ur fighting in OPS.. the PVE side is good tho :) the Game needs End boss;s not just sitting in a Tank all day long.. shooting fire mobs to level like crazy shrug ha
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Stitcher
Caldari J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 04:34:00 -
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There are a couple, but they're pretty cheap shareware ones.
Try "goliath" ***
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CrimsonSky
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 05:28:00 -
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Dungeons and Dragons online can be played with or without targetting, though the game itself was pretty sub-par and unimpressive, IMO.
What I'm looking forward to is Darkfall Online, which looks great. And I heard somewhere that it had a combat system very similar to Mount&Blade, which is very close to Morrowind/Oblivion (This might be wrong, though. I can't remember where or when I read this, so I might just be confused).
"But again, EVE is much less focused on combat and dangerous encounters than other online RPGs"-Gamespot.com |

Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2007.02.21 15:14:00 -
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Edited by: Joerd Toastius on 21/02/2007 15:12:17
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Tharrn Jumpgate was/is a non-targeting space MMOG. The developers sadly sort of dropped it to create that idiocy called 'Auto Assault'.
Was fun while it lasted.
Jumpgate was THE game!
Wait, you're actually that w0rmy? I always thought the name was just a coincidence...
Also yeah, JG rocked, and Istvan's still my hero.
{edit} The problem with "non-targetting" is that it means you have to rely on hit detection for a lot of your calculations, which uses a fair amount of server time if you verify server-side (which you should be) and makes you much more sensitive to lag etc. The tradeoff can be worth it (and sometimes it's just plain necessary), but it is very much a tradeoff. And there are ways to reduce the penalties, like simplified hitboxes, but... "Nix Missile Hitbox".
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Virida
Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.02.21 15:26:00 -
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You always got Age of Conan, to be released the coming winter, devloped by funcom
Its a action game, online, and is "where it hits, it damage" action game, running on a online mmo server.
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Jacobz
Caldari Tyrannia Technologies
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Posted - 2007.02.21 15:53:00 -
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Conan is a normal MMO with an action combat system. Looks great.
<---Buyer <---Buyer of Gods and Heroes <---Buyer of Vanguard(good try, but not ready, NOT for the casuals lolol)
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Serpreme
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Posted - 2007.02.21 16:00:00 -
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Phantasy Star Universe is mostly none targeting.
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Dravin Dread
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Posted - 2007.02.21 16:36:00 -
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Pirates of the Burning Sea will be "non-targeting" so the forum reads |

Jamie Hara
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Posted - 2007.02.21 17:18:00 -
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Darkfall will be non-targeting. |

NeoTech
Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.02.21 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Asinia Au SWG is, or was when I left that piece of junk after NGE. They may have changed it again by now for all I know.
I dont belive u're right on that one. :/
SWG is a targeting MMORPG since you had to press with your mouse on every enemy you wanted to attack.
Originally by: DB Preacher nothing on those forums show that anyone in CCP is in RKK or have done anything to assist us and I am 100% certain that the investigation will show that nothing untoward has
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Sathrai
No Quarter. C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.02.21 17:53:00 -
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Meridian 59 can be played sans auto-targeting, if you are so inclined.
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Roue
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jamie Hara Darkfall will be non-targeting.
Hey, this person is correct.
Darkfall is a FPS MMO PVP FULL LOOT. no targetting, all spells and archery is manually aimed, collision detection etc for hits. No names over your head or NPCs. Locked forward view 1st/3rd person so it's about as close as you'll get.
Gonna be very FPS skill oriented though. This is my opinion not that of privateer corp, alliance, its member corps, affiliates, minions, pet animals, ex girlfriends, former roommates, 3rd grade gym teachers, late relatives, ontime relatives, |

Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.21 19:37:00 -
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Face of mankind uses non targeting system simular to most FPS/3rd person (you can play in both). From what i remember playing (havent for several months) all missions are player made, which of course due to the fact many upper rank players are never online means that theres not alot for non traders to do other then gank other faction members. Traders have the advantage of being able to do randomly generated mining/production missions...but theyre so dull its worse then grinding.
Still, it kept me hooked for a lil while, & has potential. & most importnantly in this case, its not got autotargeting.
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xinndo
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Posted - 2007.02.22 04:49:00 -
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age of conan - due now oct 2007
elements of carebear - and areas of 0.0 type of combat
dx10/vista flagship game.
avatar control - no targeting/active combat (many keyboards will die)
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Xenoxia
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Posted - 2007.02.22 04:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tetsujin Man I keep seeing Neocron 2 boxes in game shops, did it change much from beta?
Actually, neocron 2 is actually just neocron 1 but with the two added to the title(it is the same game).
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Virene Mene
Caldari Damage Unlimited Inc
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Posted - 2007.02.22 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: NeoTech
Originally by: Asinia Au SWG is, or was when I left that piece of junk after NGE. They may have changed it again by now for all I know.
I dont belive u're right on that one. :/
SWG is a targeting MMORPG since you had to press with your mouse on every enemy you wanted to attack.
The NGE made it so it can be played without targetting. CU/Pre-CU it was targetting, it is no longer.
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Verath Kulsau
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Posted - 2007.02.22 05:16:00 -
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Allegiance is one space game (somewhat similar to EVE, actually) that's non-targeting, as you put it. Microsoft dropped it not long after release but a dedicated community has continued.
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Jack Icegaard
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Posted - 2007.02.22 06:05:00 -
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World War II -online is definitely non-targeting and 100% PvP. In imho, it pwns anything else iŠv been playing in the PvP area. I mostly fly CAS (combat air support) in a Hurricane IIC, but you can also play infantry, tank, AAA, AT-gun etc etc.
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.22 07:05:00 -
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Xplay did a review on the World War II -online and it looked horrible
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Ernest Graefenberg
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.22 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Joerd Toastius Edited by: Joerd Toastius on 21/02/2007 15:12:17
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Tharrn Jumpgate was/is a non-targeting space MMOG. The developers sadly sort of dropped it to create that idiocy called 'Auto Assault'.
Was fun while it lasted.
Jumpgate was THE game!
Wait, you're actually that w0rmy? I always thought the name was just a coincidence...
Also yeah, JG rocked, and Istvan's still my hero.
We should turn this thread into a JumpGate circlejerk. Wouldn't that be awesome ?
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.23 01:01:00 -
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List of Games To look forward to
Coming out 1.Huxley - FPS MMORPG coming out sometime this year 2.Darkfall Online - FPS MMO PVP FULL LOOT. no targetting, all spells and archery is manually aimed, collision detection etc for hits. No names over your head or NPCs. Locked forward view 1st/3rd person so it's about as close as you'll get.
3.Age of Conan - due now oct 2007 4.Thrones of Chaos 5.Pirates of the Burning Sea will be "non-targeting" so the forum reads
Already out
1.phantasy star universe 2.Planetside - Not About items and Skilling up Although you need skills for ships and guns but no items are purchased 3.Face of Mankind - sucks
Would of been Fun 5 yrs ago 1.Neocron 2- Horrible unstable logins and crashing and forget about any group stuff with the unstability 2.Meridian 59 3.World War II -online
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XGP Darkside
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Posted - 2007.02.23 01:11:00 -
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xbox 360 should have some games like this..
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Kindakrof
Caldari Cruor Frater Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2007.02.23 01:59:00 -
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Freelancer?
I think it doesn't use targeting --- --- ---
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Retromash
Minmatar Order of the Lamp
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Posted - 2007.02.23 02:00:00 -
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Starport GE
And it's free. PMS - It's not just for THAT time of the month Menopause - It doesn't mean THAT time of the month goes away.
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BlackRain
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.23 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ernest Graefenberg
Originally by: Joerd Toastius Edited by: Joerd Toastius on 21/02/2007 15:12:17
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Tharrn Jumpgate was/is a non-targeting space MMOG. The developers sadly sort of dropped it to create that idiocy called 'Auto Assault'.
Was fun while it lasted.
Jumpgate was THE game!
Wait, you're actually that w0rmy? I always thought the name was just a coincidence...
Also yeah, JG rocked, and Istvan's still my hero.
We should turn this thread into a JumpGate circlejerk. Wouldn't that be awesome ?
*Starts to circlejerk and ramble something about Black Hand* -------------------
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El Verbatim
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Posted - 2007.02.23 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Icegaard World War II -online is definitely non-targeting and 100% PvP. In imho, it pwns anything else iŠv been playing in the PvP area. I mostly fly CAS (combat air support) in a Hurricane IIC, but you can also play infantry, tank, AAA, AT-gun etc etc.
Really good game but less RPG'ish... it's a MMOFPS game more then a RPG game. Sure, you can level up which allows you to pilot better planes, tanks and guns but in the end, it's more the FPS part that determines your skill and success...
Man, that game got me hooked for a long time 
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Dario Wall
Caldari The Movement
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Posted - 2007.02.23 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja Asheron's Call.
If it's still alive :p
That brings back memories... Was my first 'true' online MMORPG experience. I even ended up getting married at one point. (don't ask)
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