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Wrayth Osu
Caldari Intergalactic House of Pi Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Wrayth Osu on 25/02/2007 20:22:20 Edited by: Wrayth Osu on 25/02/2007 20:21:43 Read first
ôAfter careful consideration, the DSA management would like to clarify the position of their alliance to the EVE community. DSA will not surrender under any conditions to the Red Swarm. DSA refuses to withdraw from the pastime known to the Red Swarm as ôthe great warö. DSA posts publicly that our allies remain the same and that we will join them in destroying the Swarm and their slave entities. And DSA condemns publicly the corruption which follows the Swarm wherever they go.ö /Signed Wrayth Osu President Distant Star Alliance
____________________________________________________________________ Wrayth - "These are not the carebears you are looking for." Pirate - "These are not the carebears we are looking for." |

Portia Rosset
Marzipan Monkeys Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:24:00 -
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/signed Portia Rosset Vice President Distant Star Alliance
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Cartiff
Darwin With Attitude
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:26:00 -
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see that was easier than that random RP stuff in the oter thread wasn't it
----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
Originally by: Milivikal DeWrar GoonSwarm: powered by static electricty from polysci and law nerds rubbing stubble in thought.[/quot
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Wrayth Osu
Caldari Intergalactic House of Pi Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Cartiff see that was easier than that random RP stuff in the oter thread wasn't it
The other one was about announcing our alliance in a fun / dramatic way  ____________________________________________________________________ Wrayth - "These are not the carebears you are looking for." Pirate - "These are not the carebears we are looking for." |

scotty551
UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:41:00 -
[5]
o7
So say we all
"We have struggled since the attacks... trying to rely on one another. Our strength and our only hope as a people, is to remain undivided."
Commander William Adama
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Yvonne S
FireStar Inc Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:50:00 -
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/signed 
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Yucali
Candy Hearts
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:52:00 -
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with the might of Distant Star Alliance against them surely the gooners are doomed
p.s. who the hell are you guys
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munchy
Prison Break Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.25 20:56:00 -
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erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw ---
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Guillaume Yu
Freelance Assassins Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:00:00 -
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/signed
It's great training Amarr, Ain't it?
Yu |

Wrayth Osu
Caldari Intergalactic House of Pi Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
English comprehension 4tw
or in your case... lack of comprehension 4tl ____________________________________________________________________ Wrayth - "These are not the carebears you are looking for." Pirate - "These are not the carebears we are looking for." |

Hastrabull
Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
For example goon recruitment officer requesting BPO for getting into Goonswarm? Good enough example?
Hastrabull |

munchy
Prison Break Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: munchy on 25/02/2007 21:02:31
Originally by: Wrayth Osu
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
English comprehension 4tw
or in your case... lack of comprehension 4tl
you called redswarm corrupt, and i ask why. if you cant answer the question then dont call them corrupt.
EDIT - could you elaborate abit on the bpo thing please, this is something ive missed and i'd like to hear more. ---
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Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:06:00 -
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I think i heard reports of Redswarm hauling their stuff back to empire already. They're gonna surrender tonight. I'm absolutly sure.
Originally by: Cipher7
Its like if the Imperial Star Destroyers flew past the X-Wing fighters and started flying circles around them, it would turn Star Wars into a slapstick comedy a-la Benny Hill instead
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Jeremy Night
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
Crashing nodes to take systems ins't cheating / corruptness?
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munchy
Prison Break Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jeremy Night
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
Crashing nodes to take systems ins't cheating / corruptness?
evidence before accusations. ---
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D'onryu Shoqui
Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jeremy Night
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
Crashing nodes to take systems ins't cheating / corruptness?
when bob/lv do it then its the servers fault , when the coalition does it there ddosing the server/expoiting right?
------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance i belong to. |

Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: Djerin on 25/02/2007 21:12:22
Originally by: Jeremy Night
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
Crashing nodes to take systems ins't cheating / corruptness?
Fielding huge fleets is not cheating. If you can prove anything beyond that feel free to do so ... with your main plz.
edit: just checked. you should alter your settings before posting here.
Originally by: Cipher7
Its like if the Imperial Star Destroyers flew past the X-Wing fighters and started flying circles around them, it would turn Star Wars into a slapstick comedy a-la Benny Hill instead
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Liquid Vision
Caldari Liquid Research
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:14:00 -
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Damn that Devswarm!! Damn all of those cheating noobs to hell!!
 Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
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The Assyrian
Mound of Severed Heads
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: Jeremy Night
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
Crashing nodes to take systems ins't cheating / corruptness?
Fielding huge fleets is not cheating. If you can prove anything beyond that feel free to do so ... with your main plz.
Most people consider Eve client modifications cheating.
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scabbsssjr
Gallente M'8'S
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayth Osu
Originally by: Cartiff see that was easier than that random RP stuff in the oter thread wasn't it
The other one was about announcing our alliance in a fun / dramatic way 
uhh who are you guys? which side are you on? I can NOT stand RP stuff. ---------------------------
Originally by: Ductoris At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.
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Jeremy Night
FireStar Inc Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:21:00 -
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Sorry about the settings thing.
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Lee Night
FireStar Inc Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:22:00 -
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Nice post Wrayth and Portia
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munchy
Prison Break Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: The Assyrian
Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: Jeremy Night
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
Crashing nodes to take systems ins't cheating / corruptness?
Fielding huge fleets is not cheating. If you can prove anything beyond that feel free to do so ... with your main plz.
Most people consider Eve client modifications cheating.
now thats what im talking about, evidence. well done for backing up what you have to say. the pilot/pilots using this should be ashamed. i hope this is a bannable offence, regardless of my views/standings towards their corps/alliances.
discussions > witch hunts. ---
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Wrayth Osu
Caldari Intergalactic House of Pi Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: munchy Edited by: munchy on 25/02/2007 21:02:31
Originally by: Wrayth Osu
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
English comprehension 4tw
or in your case... lack of comprehension 4tl
you called redswarm corrupt, and i ask why. if you cant answer the question then dont call them corrupt.
EDIT - could you elaborate abit on the bpo thing please, this is something ive missed and i'd like to hear more.
well Munchy, you seem to have problems comprehending what you are reading. You haven't indicated that English isn't your first language (if it isn't, just say so and well let it slide), but since you haven't, let me spell it out for you.
the line says "... corruption which follows the Swarm...."
the key word there is "follows". Thus, we are not accusing the Swarm themselves of being "corrupt", it's just our way of saying they are ruining the regions they are rampaging through.
So off on your way to some other thread mr goonie apologist ____________________________________________________________________ Wrayth - "These are not the carebears you are looking for." Pirate - "These are not the carebears we are looking for." |

TheArchJudge
Gallente Delta team Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: scabbsssjr
Originally by: Wrayth Osu
Originally by: Cartiff see that was easier than that random RP stuff in the oter thread wasn't it
The other one was about announcing our alliance in a fun / dramatic way 
uhh who are you guys? which side are you on? I can NOT stand RP stuff.
They are the ones "your friends" made the "surrender or die" offer obviously. But reading the whole thread is bad if you don't click "post reply" i guess.. What they did is a very respectable thing, too bad you all can't see it after your read the LV part ... amazing what hate-propaganda can make of the alliance name i've been honored to be in for more than 9 months.
Once again hats off to DSA for not choosing the easy way out. Not many can say the same.
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayth Osu
Originally by: munchy Edited by: munchy on 25/02/2007 21:02:31
Originally by: Wrayth Osu
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
English comprehension 4tw
or in your case... lack of comprehension 4tl
you called redswarm corrupt, and i ask why. if you cant answer the question then dont call them corrupt.
EDIT - could you elaborate abit on the bpo thing please, this is something ive missed and i'd like to hear more.
well Munchy, you seem to have problems comprehending what you are reading. You haven't indicated that English isn't your first language (if it isn't, just say so and well let it slide), but since you haven't, let me spell it out for you.
the line says "... corruption which follows the Swarm...."
the key word there is "follows". Thus, we are not accusing the Swarm themselves of being "corrupt", it's just our way of saying they are ruining the regions they are rampaging through.
So off on your way to some other thread mr goonie apologist
Have fun banning all of goonswarm then
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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JBX Kyan
FireStar Inc Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:32:00 -
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nice post and good luck for the future |

Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: The Assyrian
Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: Jeremy Night
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
Crashing nodes to take systems ins't cheating / corruptness?
Fielding huge fleets is not cheating. If you can prove anything beyond that feel free to do so ... with your main plz.
Most people consider Eve client modifications cheating.
Tbh this doesn't look like client modification. It rather looks like replacemant of pictures. I don't know if the client verifies pictures in cache. I highly doubt so since it would be horrible database load. This is not cheating exactly. Althoug i admit it could be used to gain sort of advantage in some situations.
Originally by: Cipher7
Its like if the Imperial Star Destroyers flew past the X-Wing fighters and started flying circles around them, it would turn Star Wars into a slapstick comedy a-la Benny Hill instead
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: The Assyrian
Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: Jeremy Night
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
Crashing nodes to take systems ins't cheating / corruptness?
Fielding huge fleets is not cheating. If you can prove anything beyond that feel free to do so ... with your main plz.
Most people consider Eve client modifications cheating.
Tbh this doesn't look like client modification. It rather looks like replacemant of pictures. I don't know if the client verifies pictures in cache. I highly doubt so since it would be horrible database load. This is not cheating exactly. Althoug i admit it could be used to gain sort of advantage in some situations.
its classed as gaining an unfair advange and clinet modifycations = breach of eula = bannabel
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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munchy
Prison Break Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayth Osu
Originally by: munchy Edited by: munchy on 25/02/2007 21:02:31
Originally by: Wrayth Osu
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
English comprehension 4tw
or in your case... lack of comprehension 4tl
you called redswarm corrupt, and i ask why. if you cant answer the question then dont call them corrupt.
EDIT - could you elaborate abit on the bpo thing please, this is something ive missed and i'd like to hear more.
well Munchy, you seem to have problems comprehending what you are reading. You haven't indicated that English isn't your first language (if it isn't, just say so and well let it slide), but since you haven't, let me spell it out for you.
the line says "... corruption which follows the Swarm...."
the key word there is "follows". Thus, we are not accusing the Swarm themselves of being "corrupt", it's just our way of saying they are ruining the regions they are rampaging through.
So off on your way to some other thread mr goonie apologist
you are infact right and i apologise, english is my first language (i guess i should have payed abit more attention at school)
i missenterpreted what you said, though i would like to know in what ways they are 'ruining the regions' that they control/invade.
also, you should try being abit more civil, im not actually a massive fan of goonswarm myself, im more of a hater of people who throw around accusations without backing them up.
now maybe you will stop the name calling and use these forums for their intended purpose, discussion. ---
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Zhaine
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:41:00 -
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Congrats on making a brave descision. Whether it turns out to be for the best or not you announced it in more style than everything else in CAOD put together. - - - - - - - - - -
Give this a read. |

Wrayth Osu
Caldari Intergalactic House of Pi Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:55:00 -
[32]
Originally by: munchy
Originally by: Wrayth Osu
Originally by: munchy Edited by: munchy on 25/02/2007 21:02:31
Originally by: Wrayth Osu
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
English comprehension 4tw
or in your case... lack of comprehension 4tl
you called redswarm corrupt, and i ask why. if you cant answer the question then dont call them corrupt.
EDIT - could you elaborate abit on the bpo thing please, this is something ive missed and i'd like to hear more.
well Munchy, you seem to have problems comprehending what you are reading. You haven't indicated that English isn't your first language (if it isn't, just say so and well let it slide), but since you haven't, let me spell it out for you.
the line says "... corruption which follows the Swarm...."
the key word there is "follows". Thus, we are not accusing the Swarm themselves of being "corrupt", it's just our way of saying they are ruining the regions they are rampaging through.
So off on your way to some other thread mr goonie apologist
you are infact right and i apologise, english is my first language (i guess i should have payed abit more attention at school)
i missenterpreted what you said, though i would like to know in what ways they are 'ruining the regions' that they control/invade.
also, you should try being abit more civil, im not actually a massive fan of goonswarm myself, im more of a hater of people who throw around accusations without backing them up.
now maybe you will stop the name calling and use these forums for their intended purpose, discussion.
more civil? I only responded in kind. I am the OP. You responded with a post that is usually viewed in these parts as an attempt to derail a thread. And it was based on a mis-comprehension of my post. I then responded with a post that mocked you attempt to mock me (the whole 4tw bit). I was also trying to give you a chance to go back and re-read my post so that you could see your error. Instead you failed to do so and instead continued to press your mis-conception. (and make some refernce to something about a bpo which I have never mentioned) At this point I was forced to spell out your error and I chose to do so using a language convention called "sarcsim", which is commonly used for "humor" not "lack of civility".
Yes, I stooped to name calling. sorry 'bout that.. couldn't resist at that point.
Have a nice day. ____________________________________________________________________ Wrayth - "These are not the carebears you are looking for." Pirate - "These are not the carebears we are looking for." |

DeckardIRL
Bravehearts Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:56:00 -
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Enjoyed both threads.
Welcome to the Allied forces.
Deck _____________________________________________
Watchin' the Game.... Havin' a Bud....
I shoot better on Bud.....
Eve Info- All you need to know |

Wrayth Osu
Caldari Intergalactic House of Pi Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:57:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Zhaine Congrats on making a brave descision. Whether it turns out to be for the best or not you announced it in more style than everything else in CAOD put together.
Thanks, I appreciate that. We had fun writing it. ____________________________________________________________________ Wrayth - "These are not the carebears you are looking for." Pirate - "These are not the carebears we are looking for." |

Gamesguy
Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.25 21:59:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: The Assyrian
Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: Jeremy Night
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
Crashing nodes to take systems ins't cheating / corruptness?
Fielding huge fleets is not cheating. If you can prove anything beyond that feel free to do so ... with your main plz.
Most people consider Eve client modifications cheating.
Tbh this doesn't look like client modification. It rather looks like replacemant of pictures. I don't know if the client verifies pictures in cache. I highly doubt so since it would be horrible database load. This is not cheating exactly. Althoug i admit it could be used to gain sort of advantage in some situations.
its classed as gaining an unfair advange and clinet modifycations = breach of eula = bannabel
Except for the part where you know, the Devs said it was ok?
Even if we pretend the devs didnt ok it, how exactly is having a different portrait gonna affect the game in anyway?
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:01:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Lilan Kahn on 25/02/2007 21:58:57
Originally by: Gamesguy
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: The Assyrian
Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: Jeremy Night
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
Crashing nodes to take systems ins't cheating / corruptness?
Fielding huge fleets is not cheating. If you can prove anything beyond that feel free to do so ... with your main plz.
Most people consider Eve client modifications cheating.
Tbh this doesn't look like client modification. It rather looks like replacemant of pictures. I don't know if the client verifies pictures in cache. I highly doubt so since it would be horrible database load. This is not cheating exactly. Althoug i admit it could be used to gain sort of advantage in some situations.
its classed as gaining an unfair advange and clinet modifycations = breach of eula = bannabel
Except for the part where you know, the Devs said it was ok?
Even if we pretend the devs didnt ok it, how exactly is having a different portrait gonna affect the game in anyway?
Funny i know some who used a portrait cach like that one goons had and got a 14 day ban uhu"
"edit" the last dev post i read on the subject said no no so please do go find me the one saying its okay
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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munchy
Prison Break Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:05:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Wrayth Osu
Originally by: munchy
Originally by: Wrayth Osu
Originally by: munchy Edited by: munchy on 25/02/2007 21:02:31
Originally by: Wrayth Osu
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
English comprehension 4tw
or in your case... lack of comprehension 4tl
you called redswarm corrupt, and i ask why. if you cant answer the question then dont call them corrupt.
EDIT - could you elaborate abit on the bpo thing please, this is something ive missed and i'd like to hear more.
well Munchy, you seem to have problems comprehending what you are reading. You haven't indicated that English isn't your first language (if it isn't, just say so and well let it slide), but since you haven't, let me spell it out for you.
the line says "... corruption which follows the Swarm...."
the key word there is "follows". Thus, we are not accusing the Swarm themselves of being "corrupt", it's just our way of saying they are ruining the regions they are rampaging through.
So off on your way to some other thread mr goonie apologist
you are infact right and i apologise, english is my first language (i guess i should have payed abit more attention at school)
i missenterpreted what you said, though i would like to know in what ways they are 'ruining the regions' that they control/invade.
also, you should try being abit more civil, im not actually a massive fan of goonswarm myself, im more of a hater of people who throw around accusations without backing them up.
now maybe you will stop the name calling and use these forums for their intended purpose, discussion.
more civil? I only responded in kind. I am the OP. You responded with a post that is usually viewed in these parts as an attempt to derail a thread. And it was based on a mis-comprehension of my post. I then responded with a post that mocked you attempt to mock me (the whole 4tw bit). I was also trying to give you a chance to go back and re-read my post so that you could see your error. Instead you failed to do so and instead continued to press your mis-conception. (and make some refernce to something about a bpo which I have never mentioned) At this point I was forced to spell out your error and I chose to do so using a language convention called "sarcsim", which is commonly used for "humor" not "lack of civility".
Yes, I stooped to name calling. sorry 'bout that.. couldn't resist at that point.
Have a nice day.
you dont seem to be understanding anything that i have said, so i will explain it to you.
i did not attempt to derail this thread or mock you, i simply asked for evidence of what i BELIEVED you accused redswarm of, i dont believe accusations should be made without evidence to back them up. later you corrected me and i APOLOGISED for misreading your post.
the "bpo thing" was posted by another member, i simply thought that considering his post with right above mine that people would read that first, and understand i was reffering to that post.
now, you say i FAILED to re-read and understand your post. im not sure why you are saying this as the second you pointed it out i apologised. i amditted you were right.
sarcasm is almost impossible to determine in text which is why i personally never use it. im gonna ignore the patronising part of you post too, because we will simply never get anywhere if i dont.
so, in what way are redswarm ruining the regions they're invading? ---
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:05:00 -
[38]
hope ur Distant Star supernovas real soon then
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Admiral Feelgood
Even-Flow
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:06:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
"edit" the last dev post i read on the subject said no no so please do go find me the one saying its okay
OHGOD freely admitted to using the portrait pack, their members were not banned for using portrait pack. The same utility as the pack (show standings) was implemented in the next major pack. Trying to decry them for something that happened like a year ago and they didn't get in trouble for when investigated is pretty dumb.
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Inisi Ankonin
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:07:00 -
[40]
You guys are going to get thumped so hard your collective heads will be spinning all the way back to empire.
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Kalroth
The Initiative
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:08:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Gamesguy
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: The Assyrian
Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: Jeremy Night
Originally by: munchy erm, in what way are redswarm corrupt? any proof? or are these more random accusations? evidence before acusations 4tw
Crashing nodes to take systems ins't cheating / corruptness?
Fielding huge fleets is not cheating. If you can prove anything beyond that feel free to do so ... with your main plz.
Most people consider Eve client modifications cheating.
Tbh this doesn't look like client modification. It rather looks like replacemant of pictures. I don't know if the client verifies pictures in cache. I highly doubt so since it would be horrible database load. This is not cheating exactly. Althoug i admit it could be used to gain sort of advantage in some situations.
its classed as gaining an unfair advange and clinet modifycations = breach of eula = bannabel
Except for the part where you know, the Devs said it was ok?
Even if we pretend the devs didnt ok it, how exactly is having a different portrait gonna affect the game in anyway?
As munchy said - please back that statement up with a link to a dev post saying it's okay to breach the EULA and do client-side modifications.
Instead of banning goons (this was an alliance-wide modification) they added the small color dots in our chat - guess $ > ethics in Iceland.
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Admiral Feelgood
Even-Flow
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:11:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Kalroth
As munchy said - please back that statement up with a link to a dev post saying it's okay to breach the EULA and do client-side modifications.
Instead of banning goons (this was an alliance-wide modification) they added the small color dots in our chat - guess $ > ethics in Iceland.
They aren't really gaining an advantage, just they don't have to click on everyone's name and waste time. It was obviously a necessary thing because it was added in just like you said. Sticking in an iron clad manner to the rules just because they're the rules isn't ethical it's dumb and lacks reasoning to back up punishments/whatever.
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Admiral Feelgood
Even-Flow
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:11:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Kalroth
As munchy said - please back that statement up with a link to a dev post saying it's okay to breach the EULA and do client-side modifications.
Instead of banning goons (this was an alliance-wide modification) they added the small color dots in our chat - guess $ > ethics in Iceland.
They aren't really gaining an advantage, just they don't have to click on everyone's name and waste time. It was obviously a necessary thing because it was added in just like you said. Sticking in an iron clad manner to the rules just because they're the rules isn't ethical it's dumb and lacks reasoning to back up punishments/whatever.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:12:00 -
[44]
Goons never break the EULA, ever, nosiree! 
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:12:00 -
[45]
Goons never break the EULA, ever, nosiree! 
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Admiral Feelgood
Even-Flow
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:15:00 -
[46]
Nice hearsay evidence from a non-EVE website about an incident from 8 months ago DS, that was pretty helpful.
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Admiral Feelgood
Even-Flow
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:15:00 -
[47]
Nice hearsay evidence from a non-EVE website about an incident from 8 months ago DS, that was pretty helpful.
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Laura Baretta
Minmatar Caelestis Caedes
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:18:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Laura Baretta on 25/02/2007 22:14:57 Good job to the OP, and good luck.
and to the haters:
I can't stand people playing Massive multiplayer online roleplaying games saying that they don't like roleplaying.
If someone chooses to stay in character on the forum everybody should just respect that, and suck down any retarded comments. Think first, then type... a lost art i guess.
Same goes for all the hating going on. If thats not roleplaying then alot of people have some serious trouble irl if they need to take this game that serious.
Basically, even if you dont like roleplaying, you are still roleplaying. You try to be some uber pvper, you want respect, you want to be feared? You're a roleplayer. You play Eve, you're a roleplayer because you try to find your role and place in EvE.
Now please do us all a favor, stop posting on this forum and play the damn game.
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Shmachura
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:18:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Dark Shikari Goons never break the EULA, ever, nosiree! 
You should ask Evolution a few things about their recruitment process in that case. If account sharing was a serious breach 25% of Eve's playerbase wouldn't be around.
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Laura Baretta
Minmatar Caelestis Caedes
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:18:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Laura Baretta on 25/02/2007 22:14:57 Good job to the OP, and good luck.
and to the haters:
I can't stand people playing Massive multiplayer online roleplaying games saying that they don't like roleplaying.
If someone chooses to stay in character on the forum everybody should just respect that, and suck down any retarded comments. Think first, then type... a lost art i guess.
Same goes for all the hating going on. If thats not roleplaying then alot of people have some serious trouble irl if they need to take this game that serious.
Basically, even if you dont like roleplaying, you are still roleplaying. You try to be some uber pvper, you want respect, you want to be feared? You're a roleplayer. You play Eve, you're a roleplayer because you try to find your role and place in EvE.
Now please do us all a favor, stop posting on this forum and play the damn game.
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Shmachura
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:18:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Dark Shikari Goons never break the EULA, ever, nosiree! 
You should ask Evolution a few things about their recruitment process in that case. If account sharing was a serious breach 25% of Eve's playerbase wouldn't be around.
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Nathaniel Hull
Caldari Finis Lumen
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:21:00 -
[52]
I gotta say you guys have brass ones...lets hope no one has a hammer and anvil big enough for em...... You guys seem to have more fight and courage any LV itself lol ...and especially more than Fix lol.
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Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:22:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Kalroth As munchy said - please back that statement up with a link to a dev post saying it's okay to breach the EULA and do client-side modifications.
As is said this is NOT a client modification. The client does to not verify the portraits. The reason for this is: checking all portraits would mean extreme database load whenever anyone jumps. Or the other way around it would take like half an hour to log in. Noone wants that so content of cache folder is not verified. This means you can remove any portrait from your cache folder to reduce loading time in heavily crowded systems. But it also means you can replace them with whatever you want. You just gotta make sure the client can render them. And if the portraits where meant to be verified on jump, what if a hostile fleet decides to change their portraits before attacking you? This would cause your client to download like several hundreds of portraits in worst case. So what's worse? Lagging out for CCP earning bucks on this or just leave it the way it is?
Originally by: Cipher7
Its like if the Imperial Star Destroyers flew past the X-Wing fighters and started flying circles around them, it would turn Star Wars into a slapstick comedy a-la Benny Hill instead
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Ivan Kirilenkov
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:28:00 -
[54]
Please cease with the accusations about who and how people cheat, it's very off-topic and trolling.
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:28:00 -
[55]
*snip* - off-topic discussion. -Ivan K
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Ace101
Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:43:00 -
[56]
i herd you asked us for free passage when we nailed your freighter? surely this goes against the OP
..... discuss 
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:52:00 -
[57]
Was it you guys we ran into last night ? you = escorting the Providance ? we = the people you kinda bumped into ? I could be mistaken here, was a long day, if it was you guys you kinda had most of our sympathy's, but yea we couldnt pass it up   
Quote: Whats becoming so obvious these days, is, in this game it's not what you know, it's who you know, how sad 
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Trind2222
Amarr Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:56:00 -
[58]
good luck to dsa hope you kill many goons :D
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Alurexar
Freelance Assassins Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.25 22:58:00 -
[59]
Hail to the re-born Dark Star
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BlackHorizon
Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.25 23:04:00 -
[60]
Yay, more freighters to kill.
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.02.25 23:10:00 -
[61]
Originally by: BlackHorizon Yay, more freighters to kill.
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Marko Zhang
Destructive Flatulence
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Posted - 2007.02.25 23:46:00 -
[62]
Originally by: munchy so, in what way are redswarm ruining the regions they're invading?
I believe this is code which means "they won't let us mine here anymore"
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Xerpex
Ars ex Discordia
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Posted - 2007.02.25 23:47:00 -
[63]
<3 P and the monkeys.
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Troubadour
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.02.25 23:51:00 -
[64]
THEM'S FIGHTIN WORDS!
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.25 23:55:00 -
[65]
Nicely stated DSA  "Lead me...Follow me...Or get the **** out of my way...." -General George Patton USA
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2007.02.26 01:37:00 -
[66]
To LV : Using civilians as meatshield is against the Yulai Convention.
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Uuve Savisaalo
Umbra Congregatio
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Posted - 2007.02.26 01:46:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Wrayth Osu
DSA posts publicly that our allies remain the same and that we will join them in destroying the Swarm and their slave entities. And DSA condemns publicly the corruption which follows the Swarm wherever they go.ö
what the ****, mate? I mean, perhaps there is some sort of a rock-smoking party in the next room i've somehow remained unaware of, but the swarm doesn't have any capacity for corruption mainly due to lack of ambition and even any sort of a unified management. the swarm is - in the most literal terms you can imagine - a motley gathering of *everyone* who doesn't want to cede territories to bob (today, tomorrow, ever..) which makes your comment about 'slaves' very amusing. Many of the coalition 'members' are in fact traditional enemies who've decided to set their differences aside for the time being and deal with the more pressing matter at hand (an open incursion by LV/BOB which was routed in its baby steps)
If you're going to take up the reigns of a blowhard on these forums, at least get your bloody facts straight.
dixit!
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Jane Spondogolo
NoobWaffe
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Posted - 2007.02.26 02:10:00 -
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Edited by: Jane Spondogolo on 26/02/2007 02:06:59 Bravo Uuve, in one paragraph you've pierced the tinfoil madness and put the issue into focus.
DSA, LV are being attacked due to collaboration with BoB and its weapons of mass destruction program with the titan manufacturer. Your actions directly aide and abet this. Trying to throw the smoke of the worse sort of accusation (the vague 'they are bad, no specificity' allegations are unethical and nasty minded at best because they can not be addressed) hoping to distract attention.
You know what you have to do DSA. Contact the coalition and negotiate surrender. I dont think you have a choice in this matter, because as it stands your about to lose everything you have, and its inevitable.
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Mourning Starr
M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.26 02:14:00 -
[69]
I think it's utterly admirable this gesture DSA have made, and one that 9/10 corps/alliances wouldn't have the balls to make under such circumstances. **** all the flaming the usual tard-spects will predictably continue to heap on your thread, anyone with an ounce of objectivity could only level praise at you guys for this. More power to you, and I promise I'll try help you guys out where I can 07
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Kaylana Syi
The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:20:00 -
[70]
Why hate on the goons? Its IAC that smashed your freighter and escort fleet while trying to flee through HED yesterday. I almost felt bad for ordering it... until reading your official threads.
Good RP can be bad PR.
Team Minmatar
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Guillaume Yu
Freelance Assassins Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:48:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi Why hate on the goons? Its IAC that smashed your freighter and escort fleet while trying to flee through HED yesterday. I almost felt bad for ordering it... until reading your official threads.
Good RP can be bad PR.
It was the Goons who were so bold as to give terms of surrender so early in the fight. What is it that they say about pride?
Long live DSA.
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IntegralHellsing
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:50:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Amerame To LV : Using civilians as meatshield is against the Yulai Convention.
so? using slaves as meatshield is against human rights but people do it anyway!
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.26 03:56:00 -
[73]
Dear Distant Star Alliance.
Is it true that you were created by LV as a holding alliance for purposes of standings and that you were populated solely by Omist tenants that paid LV cash to be there? Ok just making sure where we stand before we continue this beautiful dialogue.
It is odd that you would post this incredibly brave statement just a day after you were in negotiations on how best you were to surrender to our forces. I believe the sticking point was whether or not you were able to pay the cost we had dictated to you.
Would you like me to post that log for everybody to see? So that everybody can high-5 you and acclaim your bravery for standing up to the horrible mean nasty Goon menace? It's really a good log and truly captures the essence of "DSA BRAVERY" to the fullest.
By the way our offer is off the table. Pack your crap up and get back to empire.
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Rolled
Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:16:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Vile rat Dear Distant Star Alliance.
/snip/
Would you like me to post that log for everybody to see? So that everybody can high-5 you and acclaim your bravery for standing up to the horrible mean nasty Goon menace? It's really a good log and truly captures the essence of "DSA BRAVERY" to the fullest.
I vote post the log.
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arkarsk
Provenance.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:45:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Vile rat Dear Richard,
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arkarsk
Provenance.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:46:00 -
[76]
Edited by: arkarsk on 26/02/2007 04:42:59 welp double post ----------------- http://www.eve-provenance.com |

Alctel Prime
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.26 04:46:00 -
[77]
Guess we will be seeing you again soon then chaps, we've missed you :x
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Wrayth Osu
Caldari Intergalactic House of Pi Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 05:22:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Wrayth Osu on 26/02/2007 05:20:24 Edited by: Wrayth Osu on 26/02/2007 05:19:10
Originally by: Vile rat Dear Distant Star Alliance.
Is it true that you were created by LV as a holding alliance for purposes of standings and that you were populated solely by Omist tenants that paid LV cash to be there?
Yep
Quote: It is odd that you would post this incredibly brave statement just a day after you were in negotiations on how best you were to surrender to our forces. I believe the sticking point was whether or not you were able to pay the cost we had dictated to you.
Would you like me to post that log for everybody to see? So that everybody can high-5 you and acclaim your bravery for standing up to the horrible mean nasty Goon menace? It's really a good log and truly captures the essence of "DSA BRAVERY" to the fullest.
I'm pretty sure that most people would feel that a wise leader would take time to consider all options. I'm not stupid, DSA is a small alliance that had very little unity, maily because of how/why it was formed. I have no illusions as to our inability to defend the region against your alliance. LV handed complete ownership of the alliance to me about an hour before our "chat". We were directed to talk to you about what our options were, I expected some cordial conversation. I didn't expect to be greeted by some one who in his introduction of himself, makes a clear point of what a jerk he is and that he "doesn't even play the game" that we are discussing, but here are the terms of your surrender. I decided to see the dicussion through and it would have been foolish of me not to try and get the best deal I could. If for no other reason than it bought the members of the alliance who wanted to leave a few days to evacuate. I asked what few questions that I knew my members would ask. It would have been irresponsible of me to do otherwise.
As for our posts here today, they were a bit of role-playing fun. I'm not sure if the forum rules allow for you to post the chat, I don't really care if you do, so long as you do a "find and replace" on our screen names so they don't get published to the whole world. But I think that it will do more to show people the true attitude of Goonswarm leadership, than it will show me to be "less than brave" as you imply. Mostly it will show that you didn't have the decency to show some level of respect to another group of human beings, just because your 20 times larger than they are.
Quote: By the way our offer is off the table. Pack your crap up and get back to empire.
Yeah, that kinda went without saying. ____________________________________________________________________ Wrayth - "These are not the carebears you are looking for." Pirate - "These are not the carebears we are looking for." |

dentist bob
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Posted - 2007.02.26 05:24:00 -
[79]
oh god looks like ill have to pay another visit to omist soon :)see u round 
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arkarsk
Provenance.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 05:27:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Wrayth Osu just because your 20 times larger than they are.
fat people sure do pull a lot of weight
*drum roll*
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.02.26 06:16:00 -
[81]
who? what? way to target paint yourself! 
luv pookie
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Minigin
Caldari Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.02.26 07:29:00 -
[82]
when you refer to the 'slave entities' im just wondering how you classed your own alliance?
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ACHURA CALDARIAN
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 08:36:00 -
[83]
well if things dont changed in 3 months i was a member of a DSA member corp and there i only see when RA come its announced RA is in the region dock and wait for them got bored and there was a complexe in DSA region ( Region is LVs )and we always see whinings about oh RA farming the comlexe let petition them i never see a stand against RA roaming gangs and i really curious about if they can make any difference for this time
anyways good luck to both side and have good fights
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Dan Freeman
The All-Seeing Eye Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 11:16:00 -
[84]
o7 for presidents ready for duty 
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 11:27:00 -
[85]
I like DSA. They were always good for chaining unorganised gangs leaving or warping to a station one at a time. 
Originally by: Ice Conch In soviet russia, soap drops you!
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Tequilapepper
Amarr Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 12:23:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Tequilapepper on 26/02/2007 12:20:20 I would like to wish good luck to DSA and to all those entities that decide to field themselves on one side or the other. My wish is that all mantain their position and don't keep on changing sides according to the immediate convenience. Honour is all about that.
Respectfully
Tequilapepper
FIX Grunt
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Silvestri
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:56:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Vile rat Dear Distant Star Alliance.
By the way our offer is off the table. Pack your crap up and get back to empire.
I think they were trying to...then they ran into us...2billion in a freighter kill...what was in that...a Hulk, Sleipner, 3 Tempests...that thing was loaded to the gil...poof. Even the BS's at the SS we probed were loaded with BPC's and crap. Anywho, gf and bring more freighters...
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Kaylana Syi
The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:12:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Guillaume Yu
Originally by: Kaylana Syi Why hate on the goons? Its IAC that smashed your freighter and escort fleet while trying to flee through HED yesterday. I almost felt bad for ordering it... until reading your official threads.
Good RP can be bad PR.
It was the Goons who were so bold as to give terms of surrender so early in the fight. What is it that they say about pride?
Long live DSA.
Says they have enough understanding about what is happening to give you the opportunity to make a decision that won't waste the isk of your members. Had you accepted an offer by the goons or anyone else in the R-Train and then asked IAC for safe passage through catch you wouldn't have been hunted down and your freighter caravan disposed of.
Now you've come on the forums trying to slander the goon name and call its associates slaves. Class... or lacktherof.
Team Minmatar
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Cupdeez
Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:39:00 -
[89]
who was DSA? Were they LV slaves?
Good Job on that kill ISA.
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TheArchJudge
Gallente Delta team Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:48:00 -
[90]
Edited by: TheArchJudge on 26/02/2007 14:45:44
Originally by: Amerame To LV : Using civilians as meatshield is against the Yulai Convention.
You should send that to a RA representative as well, i'm sure they will have a good laugh about it 
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CheneysGun
Caldari The Phoenix Rising Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:33:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Amerame To LV : Using civilians as meatshield is against the Yulai Convention.
I was DSA, now I pew pew on you too! DSA will always be in my blood. o7 DSA
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.02.26 18:13:00 -
[92]
Is it just me, or have half the post in this thread been modded? 
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Emrod
Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.26 19:29:00 -
[93]
You want to resist...ok 
tic toc tic toc
If you troll Bob, you are not in your right, but if Bob do it, they are in their right.Thank you Cpp to show me some justice! |

Rake Mizar
Freelance Assassins Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 20:23:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Silvestri
Originally by: Vile rat Dear Distant Star Alliance.
By the way our offer is off the table. Pack your crap up and get back to empire.
I think they were trying to...then they ran into us...2billion in a freighter kill...what was in that...a Hulk, Sleipner, 3 Tempests...that thing was loaded to the gil...poof. Even the BS's at the SS we probed were loaded with BPC's and crap. Anywho, gf and bring more freighters...
Yep, sadly moving a "pregnant whale" through hostile space in primetime on a weekend wasn't a high percentage move but the odds were understood beforehand.
We knew the fight was coming but you did a really good job of setting the trap. Hats off.
I will miss all the quafe and exotic dancers I was moving though.  -----
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Silvestri
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 21:07:00 -
[95]
T2 exotic dancers??   
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Rake Mizar
Freelance Assassins Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 22:39:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Silvestri T2 exotic dancers??   
A guy can dream, can't he? -----
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VBboy
The Phoenix Rising Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:51:00 -
[97]
Nice to see! lo mate!
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