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Sigela Mantua	Posted - 2007.02.26 04:17:00 - [1] Okay, i have up till now never belived, all this rubbish but now i Do. Let me explain there i am camping a station and BOB drop a titan ontop of us. Fair play we see the activation warp out dodging the dooms day. We rush back, and try to bubble the titan with the dictors. WHAT none of the dictors can lauch bubbles, the lauchers won't fire. We try and try and we get one down. perfectly covering the titan. It drops cyno and leaves. WAIT a miniute how did it cyno out 1 minuate into being bubbled. This is not possible. But oh well, thats nothing unormal to eve. Well we thought thats it, 15 seconds latter exactly ( i timed it off fraps) the same titan cynoed bakc in. How the hell did a titan cyno out, recharge full cap and get back. How i ask you, not only that but its cyno disapeared after it arived. If it where a carrier i would say it docked to get full cap but titans cn't dock so how did he regen that much cap so fast? Now for there finally, the grand Kaboom. Were camping a station, and a inty warps in. Cyno opens 2 seconds latter doomsday comes funeling through, even the inties didn;t have time to warp out. How is this possible, the titan pilot had to target the cyno (minmum time for this is about 15 seconds, then fire it to funnel it throught the cyno), Any capital pilot knows locking small stuff is hard, but his titan can lock a cyno instantly and insta Dooms day. Another totaly impossible feet in the game mechanics. Unless of course your a BOB titan pilot
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.02.26 04:23:00 - [2] I suppose there was no lag or possible client desync? The titan leaving sounds very much like it had already warped/jumped buty didn't show as leaving until the bubble was down. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Nelcordran	Posted - 2007.02.26 04:23:00 - [3] i dont know much about titans but this sounds realy weird to me
Redglare's Demise Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.02.26 04:24:00 - [4] Spiral staircases in medieval castles are running clockwise. This is because all knights used to be right-handed. When the intruding army would climb the stairs they would not be able to use their right hand which was holding the sword because of the difficulties of climbing the stairs. Left-handed knights would have had no troubles, except left-handed people could never become knights because it was assumed that they were descendants of the devil.
Thrash Ergent Minmatar Tetranex Consolidated	Posted - 2007.02.26 04:24:00 - [5] There is only one course of action here. Petition. Gather all the evidence you can - screeners, killmails, chatlogs, combatlogs, evemails, etc. Host links to it on another website if you're feeling paranoid. Petition, but petition with evidence. Just because CCP CAN replay logs etc does not mean they will unless confronted with evidence that something has gone horribly wrong. Best of luck.
Toros Revoke STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.26 04:24:00 - [6] Edited by: Toros Revoke on 26/02/2007 04:21:08 Perhaps it was multiple titans operating in tandem, or perhaps not. You get used to it
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.02.26 04:33:00 - [7] posted with an alt, how bold of you!
FromBeyond TheGrave Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.26 04:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Redglare's Demise Spiral staircases in medieval castles are running clockwise. This is because all knights used to be right-handed. When the intruding army would climb the stairs they would not be able to use their right hand which was holding the sword because of the difficulties of climbing the stairs. Left-handed knights would have had no troubles, except left-handed people could never become knights because it was assumed that they were descendants of the devil. how are you not banned for spamming lol
Mister Locke Amarr	Posted - 2007.02.26 04:36:00 - [9] Originally by: Redglare's Demise Spiral staircases in medieval castles are running clockwise. This is because all knights used to be right-handed. When the intruding army would climb the stairs they would not be able to use their right hand which was holding the sword because of the difficulties of climbing the stairs. Left-handed knights would have had no troubles, except left-handed people could never become knights because it was assumed that they were descendants of the devil. wtf is this true? Devs, please comment on why you have excluded left handed ppl from being knights in Eve, I mean decendants of the devil, c'mon, I'm not even catholic. --- --Any sufficiently advanced bureaucracy is indistinguishable from molasses.--
Idara Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.02.26 04:40:00 - [10] Definitely BoB hax. ---

Altrex Stoppel SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.26 04:54:00 - [11] Originally by: Redglare's Demise Spiral staircases in medieval castles are running clockwise. This is because all knights used to be right-handed. When the intruding army would climb the stairs they would not be able to use their right hand which was holding the sword because of the difficulties of climbing the stairs. Left-handed knights would have had no troubles, except left-handed people could never become knights because it was assumed that they were descendants of the devil. You always humor me with these...can we have another?
hotgirl933	Posted - 2007.02.26 05:02:00 - [12] noob titans are immune to EW and jamming which means u cant launch dictor bubbles within range of a titan. Now read up
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 05:08:00 - [13] Bubbles have no effect if they are deployed on a target that has allready started to warp, this is on the known issues page. How did it recharge to max cap and jump back in so quick? easy! Carriers. Capital Remote Energy Transfer Arrays x5 per carrier x10 carriers could mabey do it instantley, can't be bothered to do the maths but thats a hell of a lot of energy that could be transfered. Quick locking on the cyno for DD deployment... i'm not sure, does anyone know how fast a titan locks a cyno? i dident even know they could. Max sensor skills and a full rack of faction / T2 / Officer SB's mabey. More likeley however is the carriers or anouther support group of somekind had full racks of T2 REMOTE sensor boosters. Its all about the game mechanics dude, nothing is impossable, ya just gotta figure out how. Credit to BoB though for figureing it out. -
hotgirl933	Posted - 2007.02.26 05:10:00 - [14] regardless of dev rumours bob have maoung the best PVPErs in the game they know their stuff
Waz Hawat Black Omega Security Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 05:17:00 - [15] Originally by: Alski Bubbles have no effect if they are deployed on a target that has allready started to warp, this is on the known issues page. How did it recharge to max cap and jump back in so quick? easy! Carriers. Capital Remote Energy Transfer Arrays x5 per carrier x10 carriers could mabey do it instantley, can't be bothered to do the maths but thats a hell of a lot of energy that could be transfered. Quick locking on the cyno for DD deployment... i'm not sure, does anyone know how fast a titan locks a cyno? i dident even know they could. Max sensor skills and a full rack of faction / T2 / Officer SB's mabey. More likeley however is the carriers or anouther support group of somekind had full racks of T2 REMOTE sensor boosters. Its all about the game mechanics dude, nothing is impossable, ya just gotta figure out how. Credit to BoB though for figureing it out. Wow, how come ou didn't jump right into the common haxploit belief, why did you haev to go and ruin a perfectly bad theatrical thread with potential common sence. Man that obvious fanboism is embarressing. :):) I am not on same side as BoB but I am unwilling to jump of the cliff of suspicion and I am glad you didn't either. Waz ----
xeom Veto.	Posted - 2007.02.26 05:20:00 - [16] --- "Those nuclear missiles are for domestic heating." - Scagga
hotgirl933	Posted - 2007.02.26 05:23:00 - [17] yeah its the we didnt read up on features of titans and we have no idea so it must be a hax club club
Uinein Caldari Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.02.26 05:28:00 - [18] I don't know anything about Titans or how fast his cap recharges but OMG he's a dev PANIC!!!!!
Adry Lemon	Posted - 2007.02.26 05:29:00 - [19] Originally by: Sigela Mantua Okay, i have up till now never belived, all this rubbish but now i Do. Let me explain there i am camping a station and BOB drop a titan ontop of us. Fair play we see the activation warp out dodging the dooms day. We rush back, and try to bubble the titan with the dictors. WHAT none of the dictors can lauch bubbles, the lauchers won't fire. We try and try and we get one down. perfectly covering the titan. It drops cyno and leaves. WAIT a miniute how did it cyno out 1 minuate into being bubbled. This is not possible. But oh well, thats nothing unormal to eve. Well we thought thats it, 15 seconds latter exactly ( i timed it off fraps) the same titan cynoed bakc in. How the hell did a titan cyno out, recharge full cap and get back. How i ask you, not only that but its cyno disapeared after it arived. If it where a carrier i would say it docked to get full cap but titans cn't dock so how did he regen that much cap so fast? Now for there finally, the grand Kaboom. Were camping a station, and a inty warps in. Cyno opens 2 seconds latter doomsday comes funeling through, even the inties didn;t have time to warp out. How is this possible, the titan pilot had to target the cyno (minmum time for this is about 15 seconds, then fire it to funnel it throught the cyno), Any capital pilot knows locking small stuff is hard, but his titan can lock a cyno instantly and insta Dooms day. Another totaly impossible feet in the game mechanics. Unless of course your a BOB titan pilot OMG look at what you wrote, 1) it was laggy 2) he droppped a cyno and left?? 3) he warped/cyno'd out then in then out 15 seconds apart?? 4) cyno disappeared after it arrived which was 15 seconds after he dropped it by your calculations?? 5) i dont know how he did it i am a noob. alright the answer is very simply, it was a huge client desync! titans dont have cyno's fitted, we warped in and out and in all in 15 seconds. The supposed cyno he dropped disappeared after 15 seonds, all of this is not possible, but is easily explained by a ..... client desync! happens all the time when DD go off. So instead of coming on eve-o waving your tin foil hat, why dont you use the grey matter beneath your tinfoil and analyse what happened. like seriously
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 05:29:00 - [20] Originally by: Waz Hawat Originally by: Alski Bubbles have no effect if they are deployed on a target that has allready started to warp, this is on the known issues page. How did it recharge to max cap and jump back in so quick? easy! Carriers. Capital Remote Energy Transfer Arrays x5 per carrier x10 carriers could mabey do it instantley, can't be bothered to do the maths but thats a hell of a lot of energy that could be transfered. Quick locking on the cyno for DD deployment... i'm not sure, does anyone know how fast a titan locks a cyno? i dident even know they could. Max sensor skills and a full rack of faction / T2 / Officer SB's mabey. More likeley however is the carriers or anouther support group of somekind had full racks of T2 REMOTE sensor boosters. Its all about the game mechanics dude, nothing is impossable, ya just gotta figure out how. Credit to BoB though for figureing it out. Wow, how come ou didn't jump right into the common haxploit belief, why did you haev to go and ruin a perfectly bad theatrical thread with potential common sence. Man that obvious fanboism is embarressing. :):) I am not on same side as BoB but I am unwilling to jump of the cliff of suspicion and I am glad you didn't either. Waz Meh I used to have a LOT of respect for BoB before the ASCN war, but then the massive forum scacktardedness flood started and now i wouldent be bothered if they get whiped off the map tbh. That said i do acknowledge the fact they still have great PvP abilitys, tactics and the organisation to do things that other people wouldent think of, so i consider it a challange and a learning experance to figure out how they do what they do, once cheating is ruled out of course. Who was it that said "you can only get better by playing a smarter opponent"? -

Jake Noble Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.02.26 05:30:00 - [21] OMG /me wraps himself in a giant tin foil ball and sobs
Celeste Coeval	Posted - 2007.02.26 05:31:00 - [22] easy multiple titans. the recharge is easy too just have some carriers on hand to transfer cap then send the beast back in. Nothing you mentioned is undoable (maybe it is if you can't think strategically). Come back with some actual exploit evidence..pffttt "If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein
UndergrounD Caldari Grumpy Old Farts Gruntfuttocks	Posted - 2007.02.26 05:31:00 - [23] Originally by: Redglare's Demise Spiral staircases in medieval castles are running clockwise. This is because all knights used to be right-handed. When the intruding army would climb the stairs they would not be able to use their right hand which was holding the sword because of the difficulties of climbing the stairs. Left-handed knights would have had no troubles, except left-handed people could never become knights because it was assumed that they were descendants of the devil. sums it up quite nicely -----------------------------------------------
Xelios Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.02.26 05:44:00 - [24] So if you launch a DD, then eject from the titan and a different pilot boards it, will the DD counter still work or could you launch another right away?
Last Mohicans	Posted - 2007.02.26 06:15:00 - [25] It happened again some retard with an alt posted some b*llsht on the forums after being OMGWTFBBQED and screaming DEVS DEVS DEVS!!!!!1111111
hotgirl933	Posted - 2007.02.26 06:20:00 - [26] its getting lame leave youre aliance and join the winning side then
CrimsonSky Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 07:09:00 - [27] Originally by: hotgirl933 noob titans are immune to EW and jamming which means u cant launch dictor bubbles within range of a titan. Now read up Ugh. Don't speak of things you know nothing about. Interdictor bubbles and anchorable bubbles can both be deployed within range of a Titan or Mothership. The problem with this being, the way Smartbombs work means that Officer Smartbombs get stupidly high ranges on Motherships/Titans, meaning they can kill the bubbles easily. And as to the OP... Warp Disruption Bubbles have never stopped any type of jumping. Be that gate jumping, or jumpdrives, or jump portals. "But again, EVE is much less focused on combat and dangerous encounters than other online RPGs"-Gamespot.com
Serrano Balthar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.26 08:20:00 - [28] probably an hidden feature, not an hax. :p ----------- Igvar Thorn arn !
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.26 09:03:00 - [29] Originally by: Sigela Mantua Okay, i have up till now never belived, all this rubbish but now i Do. Let me explain there i am camping a station and BOB drop a titan ontop of us. Fair play we see the activation warp out dodging the dooms day. We rush back, and try to bubble the titan with the dictors. WHAT none of the dictors can lauch bubbles, the lauchers won't fire. We try and try and we get one down. perfectly covering the titan. It drops cyno and leaves. WAIT a miniute how did it cyno out 1 minuate into being bubbled. This is not possible. But oh well, thats nothing unormal to eve. Well we thought thats it, 15 seconds latter exactly ( i timed it off fraps) the same titan cynoed bakc in. How the hell did a titan cyno out, recharge full cap and get back. How i ask you, not only that but its cyno disapeared after it arived. If it where a carrier i would say it docked to get full cap but titans cn't dock so how did he regen that much cap so fast? Now for there finally, the grand Kaboom. Were camping a station, and a inty warps in. Cyno opens 2 seconds latter doomsday comes funeling through, even the inties didn;t have time to warp out. How is this possible, the titan pilot had to target the cyno (minmum time for this is about 15 seconds, then fire it to funnel it throught the cyno), Any capital pilot knows locking small stuff is hard, but his titan can lock a cyno instantly and insta Dooms day. Another totaly impossible feet in the game mechanics. Unless of course your a BOB titan pilot You do know that dictor bubble's don't affect the ability to jump out yeah? Tried and tested on dreadnought's btw, we bubbled some in the ascn war in gq and tackler's backed off and they cyno'd out of system, but must have been h4xx yeah. How about learn about the game before talking plop BoB vs the coalition of family value's
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.26 09:03:00 - [30] Originally by: Sigela Mantua Stuff Regardless of haxploits and lag and stuff, it describe pretty well the sad state of 0.0 pvp, when Titans are in the system. Each side with a titan just try to bait it's enemies so they can doomsday them. CCP, remove Doomdays before they kill Eve ! ------------------------------------------ Every ship has a base 60-70% resist against the primary damage type of the race that is the least able to vary it's damage types.



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