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The Beatnuts
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.28 15:11:00 -
[91]
So THAT is why Sadist asked me to train for a domi!
Nerf those things!
<za preved pizda>
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2007.02.28 15:14:00 -
[92]
Very impressive
If Concord send you the donut bill for that op you are ******
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Hardin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.28 15:14:00 -
[93]
Very funny... ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607
AMARR VICTOR |
dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.02.28 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 28/02/2007 15:23:34
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr As to cost calculations and in-house vs out-sourcing: it's called opportunity cost. You either compare market value vs market value or build cost vs build cost.
Even if everything destroyed would be built in-house, you could still sell it on the market for profit if it didn't go boom. So with the ship loss, you also lose the opportunity to make that profit.
In the end of a day, something lost has a market value and it should always be valued as that. :)
Indeed. And just as simple as that is, just as hard is it to get it into the heads of ppl. I can't possibly remember the countless times I've tried to explain to someone that has lost a HAC for example that the loss was the market price no matter what it was bought for.
Although a slight modification of the truth, since putting anything on the market instead of destroying it increase the supply and lower the price - but in most cases the volume is neglectible.
Originally by: Vily if your not anonomyous, scamming is bad.
i wonder just how many people now have Vegeta's corp set to red ?
karma indeed.
"Fenian's main" has been "common knowledge" for quite some time (I'm surprised outbrake had to do it the hard way). But yea, there were probably many scam-victims around who didn't know it. But I don't think omnor will be crying a river if anyone sets them red...
Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
Dupac
Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.28 15:34:00 -
[95]
Good back story, nice detective work - all well explained and well put together.
And really, really funny - class job all round :)
Just surprised the freighter only had one sabre in it *cough* |
nickky01
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.28 15:37:00 -
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epic vid, awsome job 0utbreak -------------------------------------------
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Oh and IAC's official response to ISS's offer is lollerskates.
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clone 1
Caldari The Short Bus Squad The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.02.28 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: clone 1 on 28/02/2007 15:44:32 one word
CLASS
My ascii art sucks lol
Always Moaning About Race Retardations |
probablecause
Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.28 16:01:00 -
[98]
Anyone from BOB care to confirm or deny if this was their freighter?
And wasn't this posted by a MC member before, in another thread?
Tinfoil time! __________________
"Buttons are not toys" |
Raivi
Explosion Matrix
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Posted - 2007.02.28 16:06:00 -
[99]
Excellent gank, excellent video. You just made my day.
----------------------------------------- Explosion Matrix: Our Name Makes No Sense |
Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.28 16:09:00 -
[100]
Wonderful. Although I'm getting distracted by all the 0utbreak sigs a little, haven't see this many different for a while.
Family Tahar, of Clan Hadar, of Caravan of Namtz'Aar K'in |
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whisk
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: probablecause Anyone from BOB care to confirm or deny if this was their freighter?
And wasn't this posted by a MC member before, in another thread?
Tinfoil time!
At the time of the scam, the main was in BOB. At the time of the kill the main was not in BOB.
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Ifni
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.02.28 16:18:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Gosh, now THAT's a blob!
As to cost calculations and in-house vs out-sourcing: it's called opportunity cost. You either compare market value vs market value or build cost vs build cost.
Even if everything destroyed would be built in-house, you could still sell it on the market for profit if it didn't go boom. So with the ship loss, you also lose the opportunity to make that profit.
In the end of a day, something lost has a market value and it should always be valued as that. :)
This is indeed true, and the only reason I specified a difference was because the items destroyed were never meant for the open market, so placing an open market value on them is only used as a comparative figure.
The fact that Freighters don't drop any loot aids the argument for inhouse value, but again, more people are concerned with how much it would cost if it were themselves in that position.
So yes, 5.4bn damage inflicted (at least, I have my own theory about freighters and whats listed on the killmails) for not even 500m of losses.
You take what is offered. And that must sometimes be enough. |
jaysonia
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 16:19:00 -
[103]
booo i missed the fun.
great video Marko.
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Mitch Manus
Regeneration
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Posted - 2007.02.28 16:20:00 -
[104]
Lol, nice, and original too
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 16:29:00 -
[105]
Wish I could fly a bloody domi. :/
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 16:34:00 -
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no u dont welshie,, not like that, not after a gista crow or pimped sabre, I think the set_up on those domies proberly ment the frieghter would warp faster..... was nice though to be back in a bs though honestly
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Bella Fea
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.28 16:39:00 -
[107]
Awesome Video. Awesome Planning. Awesome Execution.
one problem...i fail to see how this is karma. Vegeta was kicked from TAOSP a week before this, but we had to petition to remove him because he is in a mom and therefore always in space. So the scammer is not even remotely affected by the random bob freighter kill. so i dont think the term karma applies here.
either way. well done.
Lastest Movie: Noobs in Action Vol. 2 |
Osiris Occido
The Short Bus Squad The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.02.28 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Bella Fea some stuph..
Bella, when are you going to make NIA3, hmm?? I've waited long enough
Marko that was a wonderfully told story, editting was perfect. Thanks for putting this together for everyone to enjoy.
TSBS Video Vault [37] | Perfect Quality with WMM |
Selpy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Bella Fea
one problem...i fail to see how this is karma. Vegeta was kicked from TAOSP a week before this, but we had to petition to remove him because he is in a mom and therefore always in space. So the scammer is not even remotely affected by the random bob freighter kill. so i dont think the term karma applies here.
KARMA
Etymology: Sanskrit karma fate, work 1 often capitalized : the force generated by a person's actions held in Hinduism and Buddhism to perpetuate transmigration and in its ethical consequences to determine the nature of the person's next existence
Since that alt was part of TAOSP at the time and scammed the member, and then marko went to the TAOSP CEO, and well you saw what he said...This situation fit's perfectly for Karma, Regardless of the fact that lemonde, err I mean Vegeta was removed from TAOSP, that's after the fact.
I hope people remember this, scamming doesn't pay off
Toxin's can't be killed, Only removed! |
Bella Fea
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.28 17:20:00 -
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hehe i like that you define karma as if i dont know what it means and then do not show how this affected vegeta at all. nice bait and switch.
really not trying to flame. I genuinely respect the planning and execution of this, and I am in no way affected by it either. Just dont think the term karma applies here.
karma would be hunting down veg's ms and blowing that up. this could be called revenge which is totally different.
as to NIAv3...i made it ages ago...it is all edited, but i got hung up on the flash at the end, and now its out of date.
Lastest Movie: Noobs in Action Vol. 2 |
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 17:42:00 -
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if a police car (forgive me but I actually had dreams of concord in swarms last night) was to break through ur folks garden fence and in a drunked state drive all over the place get out, wee in your door and do a number of anoying stuff and dirves off to the police station./.. its a very silly if I know, .... ok so u go to the chief of the station and say hey, mr bacon ur guy did this and this all all down my windows ect , and he was to reply #I dont give a monkeys thats what I let my guys do* he is in it just as much and therefor worthy to be punished, if he answers *no thats not cool, but what can I do? we kicking him from the police, he will go to cort and pay for his dues ect ect then thats a different story. I dont think the boss would have done anything withought speeking on the right level about the right thing at the right time .
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Bella Fea
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.28 17:51:00 -
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look if this makes you feel vindicated for falling for a really stupid scam, more power to you.
in your analogy, you would wait and ambush some police officer from a different precinct because of the actions of this rogue officer and his commanding officer. makes perfect sense really.
If you had a problem with how TWD or TAOSP handled this, you would come after us. If you had a problem with Veg, you would go after him.
no matter what analogies you come up with, Veg bought a ms from scamming, and has not lost anything from it...so i still fail to see how karma applies.
Lastest Movie: Noobs in Action Vol. 2 |
W1ck3d 8uZz
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.02.28 17:51:00 -
[113]
ciao Marko! hows it goin'? ROFLMAO @ vid :))))))))
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Xantor
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 18:00:00 -
[114]
Bwahahaha! Awesome stuff :)
And I was asleep
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Krugerrand
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 18:02:00 -
[115]
sleep ftl :(
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 18:07:00 -
[116]
in your analogy, you would wait and ambush some police officer from a different precinct because of the actions of this rogue officer and his commanding officer. makes perfect sense really.....
so the law who control a hell of a lot have one officer (if u say hes rouge then really u should be thinking about mr bacons secon answer) comes and fecks stuff up and the police chief laughs, ... trying to walk into the poice station an wreck revenge is might start getting u a little karmer back but u might no get past the the iron bars to where all the cool toys have been locked up, finding a loan police car, jumping in the car , fuzzing up his hair, tearing up the car and weeing in it and sending him packing to the boss would be nice justice.
if the chief ever said , hes a rouge agent, yer that change things alot. but its safe to say u wont see that either :( maybe this guy ****ed you off something bad? and u wished u could have made it him 0/
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TSS1
moon7empler Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.28 18:13:00 -
[117]
n1 n1 :) guys
Wir wachsen mit unseren Aufgaben !!!! |
Sirus Ralbaum
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Posted - 2007.02.28 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Bella Fea hehe i like that you define karma as if i dont know what it means and then do not show how this affected vegeta at all. nice bait and switch.
really not trying to flame. I genuinely respect the planning and execution of this, and I am in no way affected by it either. Just dont think the term karma applies here.
karma would be hunting down veg's ms and blowing that up. this could be called revenge which is totally different.
as to NIAv3...i made it ages ago...it is all edited, but i got hung up on the flash at the end, and now its out of date.
Well seeing as he scammed a Freighter and then lost a Freighter + Cargo I would call it Perfect. NJ Outbreak I love Eve because Eye for an Eye is possible.
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Swiftness
Caldari VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2007.02.28 18:29:00 -
[119]
Awesome ! More please
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Grizzly Shrewd
Shrewd Liquidators Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.28 18:38:00 -
[120]
Edited by: Grizzly Shrewd on 28/02/2007 18:34:42
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