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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 18:55:00 -
[121]
 Originally by: Bella Fea
blah.
If this doesnt affect you at all, why do you seem to be the only one here who is affected?
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Koronos
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.02.28 18:55:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Koronos on 28/02/2007 18:53:31
Originally by: Sirus Ralbaum
Well seeing as he scammed a Freighter and then lost a Freighter + Cargo I would call it Perfect. NJ Outbreak I love Eve because Eye for an Eye is possible.
Sirus, the point from Bella's standpoint is that the freighter alt Geneticx is a BoB alt, but is not a Vegeta alt, which is Fenian. Vegeta scammed a freighter, also apparently scammed himself into a mothership, Outbreak kills a BoB alt freighter in a brilliantly designed and filmed move. Some satisfaction given TWD's response, and we all (including Bella and Vegeta btw) love the video, but they still owe Vegeta some payback. :)
Koronos
edit: unless, of course, I've missed something.
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 18:55:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Bella Fea
blah.
If this doesnt affect you at all, why do you seem to be the only one here who is affected?
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Koronos
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.02.28 18:55:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Koronos on 28/02/2007 18:53:31
Originally by: Sirus Ralbaum
Well seeing as he scammed a Freighter and then lost a Freighter + Cargo I would call it Perfect. NJ Outbreak I love Eve because Eye for an Eye is possible.
Sirus, the point from Bella's standpoint is that the freighter alt Geneticx is a BoB alt, but is not a Vegeta alt, which is Fenian. Vegeta scammed a freighter, also apparently scammed himself into a mothership, Outbreak kills a BoB alt freighter in a brilliantly designed and filmed move. Some satisfaction given TWD's response, and we all (including Bella and Vegeta btw) love the video, but they still owe Vegeta some payback. :)
Koronos
edit: unless, of course, I've missed something.
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 18:56:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Bella Fea
...If you had a problem with how TWD or TAOSP handled this, you would come after us...
We'd love to, hopefully when the current furore blows over we'll see what all the fuss is about.
/me crosses fingers
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 18:56:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Bella Fea
...If you had a problem with how TWD or TAOSP handled this, you would come after us...
We'd love to, hopefully when the current furore blows over we'll see what all the fuss is about.
/me crosses fingers
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PCX339
Beasts of Burden
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.02.28 19:07:00 -
[127]
Best. Video. Ever.
Love the stakeout approach too.
They do that kind of haul twice a week every week? Woof! No wonder they can't have Freighters drop loot!
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PCX339
Beasts of Burden
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.02.28 19:07:00 -
[128]
Best. Video. Ever.
Love the stakeout approach too.
They do that kind of haul twice a week every week? Woof! No wonder they can't have Freighters drop loot!
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Borg017
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 19:08:00 -
[129]
awesome 
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Horza Otho
Minmatar
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2007.02.28 19:09:00 -
[130]
this is the funniest thing i have ever watched 
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KaiH
Ultrapolite Socialites
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.28 19:36:00 -
[131]
Absolutely brilliant
Well done
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Bones Mcgee
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 19:36:00 -
[132]
Amazing!!! I love Outbreak!
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PCX339
Beasts of Burden
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.02.28 19:41:00 -
[133]
Edited by: PCX339 on 28/02/2007 19:37:22
Originally by: Bones Mcgee
Amazing!!! I love Outbreak!
Where's your Sig? You're in Outbreak, shouldn't we be seeing some hot chick?
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rig0r
Arcane Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.28 20:06:00 -
[134]
Class !
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grindel
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.28 20:13:00 -
[135]
very impressive
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Xori Ruscuv
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.28 20:16:00 -
[136]
I was there when it happened, sitting off the gate, wondering what the hell was going on... I'm glad I stayed.
<3 0utbreak
o7
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Baun
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.02.28 20:22:00 -
[137]
Well made movie, well planned op, good execution.
Respect.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Dave White
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.28 20:23:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Dave White on 28/02/2007 20:23:37
Dlin'.
EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER |
Baun
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.02.28 20:24:00 -
[139]
Edited by: Baun on 28/02/2007 20:22:59
Originally by: dalman
Edited by: dalman on 28/02/2007 15:23:34
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
As to cost calculations and in-house vs out-sourcing:
it's called opportunity cost. You either compare market value vs market value or build cost vs build cost.
Even if everything destroyed would be built in-house, you could still sell it on the market for profit if it didn't go boom. So with the ship loss, you also lose the opportunity to make that profit.
In the end of a day, something lost has a market value and it should always be valued as that. :)
Indeed.
And just as simple as that is, just as hard is it to get it into the heads of ppl.
I can't possibly remember the countless times I've tried to explain to someone that has lost a HAC for example that the loss was the market price no matter what it was bought for.
Although a slight modification of the truth, since putting anything on the market instead of destroying it increase the supply and lower the price - but in most cases the volume is neglectible.
Good to know there are other people out there who understand this ...
After tons of threads and posts I have about given up trying to convince BoB (or rather get them to admit) that their HAC losses arent insignificant because they are cheap to build.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 20:28:00 -
[140]
Regardless who that freighter belongs to; it got smacked, pretty badly. Which i truly enjoyed watching and
WTFPWND!!!
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Kusotarre
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.28 20:44:00 -
[141]
Haha, great job. Great video.
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ForumPostingPirate
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Posted - 2007.02.28 20:45:00 -
[142]
SOMEONE PUT THIS ON YOUTUBE PLEASE
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Zendor
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.02.28 20:50:00 -
[143]
Brilliant video - loved it.
Stylish ID and kill. Stylish vid.
Zendor
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SitRep
Caldari
Warspite Developments
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Posted - 2007.02.28 20:56:00 -
[144]
This is the funniest thing I've ever seen. Good job guys :D
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Rimini Toranos
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Posted - 2007.02.28 20:56:00 -
[145]
Karma, neh?
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tost
Viper Squad
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.02.28 21:09:00 -
[146]
Lovely
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Kahor
Minmatar
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.28 21:12:00 -
[147]
Sweet, much respect for outbreak on this one.
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An eye for an eye make a whole world blind.
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Admentus Cor'vion
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.28 21:14:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Baun
Edited by: Baun on 28/02/2007 20:22:59
Originally by: dalman
Edited by: dalman on 28/02/2007 15:23:34
Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
As to cost calculations and in-house vs out-sourcing:
it's called opportunity cost. You either compare market value vs market value or build cost vs build cost.
Even if everything destroyed would be built in-house, you could still sell it on the market for profit if it didn't go boom. So with the ship loss, you also lose the opportunity to make that profit.
In the end of a day, something lost has a market value and it should always be valued as that. :)
Indeed.
And just as simple as that is, just as hard is it to get it into the heads of ppl.
I can't possibly remember the countless times I've tried to explain to someone that has lost a HAC for example that the loss was the market price no matter what it was bought for.
Although a slight modification of the truth, since putting anything on the market instead of destroying it increase the supply and lower the price - but in most cases the volume is neglectible.
Good to know there are other people out there who understand this ...
After tons of threads and posts I have about given up trying to convince BoB (or rather get them to admit) that their HAC losses arent insignificant because they are cheap to build.
To Derail you, in the context of pure marketeering and full value yes, they do hurt the same.
But in contrast, if an alliance that has no HAC bpo looses 30 hacs as opposed to bob who have all the BPO's, the cost differential is one of Sustainable versus Depletable income.
IE, 30 man corp all make enough money to buy a HAC through NPC'ing.
Then they blow it up.
I whole HEARTEDLY aggree that a HAC loss is a hac loss, but with production available and quantities available, it's much easier to recover if you have said production (like in bob) as opposed if you didn't.
Secondly worth isn't all encompassed in ISK value, it's time and effort.
People without BPO's will spend less effort in re-upping the loss, because a day of ratting and boom new hac. Loosing a plethora of t2 ships means production times and profit margins on a large scale take a hit.
Either way, good job on dealing with a scammer.
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Bella Fea
TAOSP
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.28 21:32:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Randay
If this doesnt affect you at all, why do you seem to be the only one here who is affected?
you mistake my argument about whether karma has anything to do with the kill, with me caring about the kill itself.
my first post compliments every facet of the kill, and my second makes clear that im not being sarcastic.
I corrected one thing, that being that the scammer himself was not in the least affected by the kill, and then twice fended off atempts at straw man arguments to the contrary.
this is the last i will say on the topic, because if you havent got my point in 4 posts, you wont.
just to be redundantly clear.
10/10 for planning.
10/10 for execution.
11/10 for documentation.
3/10 for justification.
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Amarr
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.28 21:33:00 -
[150]
doh
we need to try same
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