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Franga
Caldari NQX Logistics
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar As for Privateers, meh...they do their thing...who cares
Flinx, don't get me wrong. I love you. Seriously. During my time in D2 you were one cool cat. I mean, for real, I would have your babies.
But I remember in another Privateer thread that you dissed these guys chronically. If I remember the word 'tard' was used and you said yourself that these guys are pathetic losers who use can traps to pop people undocking before their screen loads.
I'm with everyone else who says that 0.0 is good. I agree. Love it and will be back there soon (POS warfare sucks, though). However, I've got to say as well, that Privateer is a very silly alliance. They use alot of exploits. Just go to the 15+ page thread entitled 'This Is How It Works'. You'll see many opinions of these guys there.
I tend to think that these guys in Privateer are actually afraid of the PVP groups that live in 0.0 - please note that I don't include Outbreak in the same category as Privateer, they actually have the guts to do things that go beyond quick and easy ganks - I mean, empire is the land of haulers and PVE setups. No match for PVP setups.
Like I said in that other thread - How brave! How noble! _____________________________ Eldo spanked my sig but I can't be bothered changing it just now. |
Cown
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Hellaciouss Something will eventually be done with the war dec system.
Right now not much is being done about them as there is an extremely big war going on.
Privateers also have a habit of station hugging and insta docking when anything that could prove close to a challenge pulls up.
Placing cans at the exit of a station so they bounce people around making it impossible for them to align and warp is pretty lame and you should probably petition it, you may get a response and whoever is doing it could get a warning/temp ban for obvious griefing of people they aren't even at war against.
All in all, 99.87% of Privateers aren't looking for the 'good' fights, only the easy ganks. Eventually they will be delt with by either CCP fixing the war dec system or players taking it into their own hands after the war. I am sure a lot of the alliance they have decked won't forget them. Me, personnely, I wouldn't let a single privateers into my corp/alliance after the big alliances turn their attention towards them and the mass exodus of their alliance begins because they can't handle real PvP'ers with equal numbers.
ROFLMAO
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Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:36:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Cown
ROFLMAO
It's funny cause it's true, I know
I feel bad for you guys.
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The Dokter
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: The Dokter on 02/03/2007 11:38:00
Originally by: Hellaciouss Something will eventually be done with the war dec system.
Right now not much is being done about them as there is an extremely big war going on.
Privateers also have a habit of station hugging and insta docking when anything that could prove close to a challenge pulls up.
Are you giving a description about your corp? The docking part if you can't win, the station/pos huging, uber blobbing? Doesn't everybody do that at some time?
Why should there something be done about the wardec system? So that 0.0 alliances can safly travel through high sec? The system is working perfect, privateers wardec a lot of people. So it means they have too be very carefull who they agress and where. People who don't want like the effect of the wardecs, go too 0.0 or get in a noob corp or....stupid one.....fight back.
We have been wardecced by the privateers, didn't like it because I had to move stuff from north too south. But that's eve, other people don't stop when you don't like it. If you don't want that, go play an other game and set it on easy.
And for the op, you can pvp after 1 week, just get some friends together and have fun in 0.0. Eve isn't ment as a solo game and never will.
"It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you." |
R3dSh1ft
Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:38:00 -
[35]
tl;dr
we all know privis and their ways
they know the truth about us too : In 0.0 nobody can hear you scream! (and there are not many stations that will let them dock). ______________________________________
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Ritchler
Gallente BOOM - Gotcha
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:38:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Hellaciouss Lot's Of Hate
Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance
Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of ****
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Cown
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Cown
ROFLMAO
It's funny cause it's true, I know
I feel bad for you guys.
Hahaha seriously keep it up, this is so funny
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Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:49:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Ritchler
Originally by: Hellaciouss Lot's Of Hate
Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance
Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of ****
Actually, I've never fought them. I do sit in an alt shuttle in high sec a lot though and watch how they conduct their killing. It's pretty sad.
@Outbreak guy.
It's funny you say it's my corp/alliance I am describing? Firstly I don't speak for Genco or IAC, i have no authority at all. I speak for myself. Secondly, I have just one question, what exactly are you going to do when your vagas and sabres can no longer go 12km/s? Yah, I dock when you come by unless an OP gets thrown together because I simply find chasing you guys extremely boring.
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Patient 4127
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:50:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Natalia Trade
But this Privateer Alliance thing is out of control, I am not war dec'd by them, but I feel sorry for the guys that are, every day when I sign and move stuff to empire I see them camping gates waiting on some war target to jump through, or I see them camping the bases where the ships undock with 50 drones circling, but what really gets me hot is when I undock and get stuck up on 12 cans they put out to stick up the people undocking so they can kill them easy.
Yeah, sorry about that. I don't do it, but everyone in privateers does there own thing, and let's face it, we are pirates, or something close to it.
Originally by: Natalia Trade
This is nothing more than Legal High Sec Pirating
Correct. Well, close. I refer you to wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privateer
Originally by: Natalia Trade
Then they say it is the n00bs fault for joining a Corp or Alliance, I dont know how many rookie ship wrecks I saw killed at the gate Saturday with less than a day pods sitting around
Those are typicallya newbie scout alts of experienced characters. They made the character just to send it in to scout the camps with no risk. A standard tactic.
Originally by: Natalia Trade
It is nothing more than a game mechanic exploit.
The billions a week it costs for the wars says otherwise. Various patrons have given us our Letters of Marque to raid hostile shipping. And that we do.
Originally by: Natalia Trade
CCP if your going to let it continue, might as well get rid of "High Sec" alltogether and make it all low sec, because that is what the Privateer Alliance just did without low sec worries or consequenses to them.
The Privateers are of no relevance (except for fallout from some of the station tactics, sorry again about that) to those people that actually NEED High Sec to be safe space.
A PvP group, a set of sorta-mercs, pirates unleached on your enemies, call it what you will.
It's (mostly) not outright griefing. We don't (to the extent you can say "we") generally attack non-war targets. It stuffs with your sec status, and god knows there's enough legitimate targets.
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Lagkills
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:53:00 -
[40]
Go Privateers GO!...
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Franga Flinx, don't get me wrong. I love you. Seriously. During my time in D2 you were one cool cat. I mean, for real, I would have your babies.
Thanks dude, I'n not sure how to take that
It's no secret that I think that camping Jita 4-4 is lame, but live and let live I guess.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=47466 |
Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Franga Flinx, don't get me wrong. I love you. Seriously. During my time in D2 you were one cool cat. I mean, for real, I would have your babies.
Thanks dude, I'n not sure how to take that
It's no secret that I think that camping Jita 4-4 is lame, but live and let live I guess.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=47466 |
Lance Hawke
New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:38:00 -
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what level can I PVP at?
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Lance Hawke
New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:38:00 -
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what level can I PVP at?
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Natalia Trade Privateer Alliance Is A Joke
Considering the amount of whineage, they are an annoying joke (which means that they are doing something right). ^_^
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:41:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Natalia Trade Privateer Alliance Is A Joke
Considering the amount of whineage, they are an annoying joke (which means that they are doing something right). ^_^
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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The Dokter
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Ritchler
Originally by: Hellaciouss Lot's Of Hate
Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance
Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of ****
Actually, I've never fought them. I do sit in an alt shuttle in high sec a lot though and watch how they conduct their killing. It's pretty sad.
@Outbreak guy.
It's funny you say it's my corp/alliance I am describing? Firstly I don't speak for Genco or IAC, i have no authority at all. I speak for myself. Secondly, I have just one question, what exactly are you going to do when your vagas and sabres can no longer go 12km/s? Yah, I dock when you come by unless an OP gets thrown together because I simply find chasing you guys extremely boring.
So you give comments about the privateers, but you never engaged them or fought them, so actually you really don't know what you are talking about?
If you think OB only is good when we flying around in nanoships, I'm not going too tell what our treu power is, because I don't think you will undock much eather then
Just stop attacking people about there fun ingame, you have fun with what you do, we have fun with what we do and Privateers have fun with what they do. They play perfectly in gamemechanics and have fun, if you don't like that's your right and if you think they are out of line petition it, but don't start naging on the forums because it makes you and your alliance look rather sad, a bit like: " we are small and there a big it's not honest"
"It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you." |
The Dokter
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:55:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Ritchler
Originally by: Hellaciouss Lot's Of Hate
Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance
Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of ****
Actually, I've never fought them. I do sit in an alt shuttle in high sec a lot though and watch how they conduct their killing. It's pretty sad.
@Outbreak guy.
It's funny you say it's my corp/alliance I am describing? Firstly I don't speak for Genco or IAC, i have no authority at all. I speak for myself. Secondly, I have just one question, what exactly are you going to do when your vagas and sabres can no longer go 12km/s? Yah, I dock when you come by unless an OP gets thrown together because I simply find chasing you guys extremely boring.
So you give comments about the privateers, but you never engaged them or fought them, so actually you really don't know what you are talking about?
If you think OB only is good when we flying around in nanoships, I'm not going too tell what our treu power is, because I don't think you will undock much eather then
Just stop attacking people about there fun ingame, you have fun with what you do, we have fun with what we do and Privateers have fun with what they do. They play perfectly in gamemechanics and have fun, if you don't like that's your right and if you think they are out of line petition it, but don't start naging on the forums because it makes you and your alliance look rather sad, a bit like: " we are small and there a big it's not honest"
"It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you." |
Preem Palvor
ExploRiggery Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.02 13:01:00 -
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When I was flying through Niarja yesterday, I saw SEVERAL privateer wrecks and I think Omen were doing a mighty fine job clearing out any privateers from their camps nearby. I feel the only ones that complain are the ones that fly alone and are not prepared. Yesterday showed me that with a gang of about 5, you can not only get through their camps, but bust them as well. Great job Omen (or whoever it was)! Rigs, Research, Blueprints and More! |
Preem Palvor
ExploRiggery Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.02 13:01:00 -
[50]
When I was flying through Niarja yesterday, I saw SEVERAL privateer wrecks and I think Omen were doing a mighty fine job clearing out any privateers from their camps nearby. I feel the only ones that complain are the ones that fly alone and are not prepared. Yesterday showed me that with a gang of about 5, you can not only get through their camps, but bust them as well. Great job Omen (or whoever it was)! Rigs, Research, Blueprints and More! |
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babylonstew
Caldari Caldari Scouting and Intel Group Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Ritchler
Originally by: Hellaciouss Lot's Of Hate
Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance
Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of ****
Actually, I've never fought them. I do sit in an alt shuttle in high sec a lot though and watch how they conduct their killing. It's pretty sad.
@Outbreak guy.
It's funny you say it's my corp/alliance I am describing? Firstly I don't speak for Genco or IAC, i have no authority at all. I speak for myself. Secondly, I have just one question, what exactly are you going to do when your vagas and sabres can no longer go 12km/s? Yah, I dock when you come by unless an OP gets thrown together because I simply find chasing you guys extremely boring.
if only ccp released like say a recon cruiser with i dunno, web bonuses and stuff be awsome to combat nano ships o wait a minute and whats with this jita crap?
find a kill mail with me on it from jita in the last 6 months, i dare you
i specifically DONT go anywhere near jita, unless its to shop. and in case you spot the kills from ours, be advised, all those kills were when certain corps tried to either bait us and it bit them in the arse, or we baited them. so knock the jita crap off will you, not everyone shoots targets there, let alone even goes near the damn place
------ *snip* please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo CCp nerfed my sig and all i got was this crummy message ^^^
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Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.02 14:00:00 -
[52]
Originally by: babylonstew
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Ritchler
Originally by: Hellaciouss Lot's Of Hate
Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance
Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of ****
Actually, I've never fought them. I do sit in an alt shuttle in high sec a lot though and watch how they conduct their killing. It's pretty sad.
@Outbreak guy.
It's funny you say it's my corp/alliance I am describing? Firstly I don't speak for Genco or IAC, i have no authority at all. I speak for myself. Secondly, I have just one question, what exactly are you going to do when your vagas and sabres can no longer go 12km/s? Yah, I dock when you come by unless an OP gets thrown together because I simply find chasing you guys extremely boring.
if only ccp released like say a recon cruiser with i dunno, web bonuses and stuff be awsome to combat nano ships o wait a minute and whats with this jita crap?
find a kill mail with me on it from jita in the last 6 months, i dare you
i specifically DONT go anywhere near jita, unless its to shop. and in case you spot the kills from ours, be advised, all those kills were when certain corps tried to either bait us and it bit them in the arse, or we baited them. so knock the jita crap off will you, not everyone shoots targets there, let alone even goes near the damn place
You've obviously never tried to stop a vaga or sabre going 12km/s, even in a recon. Their momentum alone will get them out of a web. Are you too naive to think no one has tried? It's near impossible to stop a ship going that fast (notice the uproar about nano/istabs) unless you've got a large gang. Tell me, what other battlecruiser or dictor requires and entire gang to bring down? Should they require an entire gang to bring down? You have to make some extremely large mistakes(yes, not one, but a few extremely large mistakes) to lose a sabre or vaga going those speeds.
Oh, and that's why Jita is leading the killboards by a pretty big margin in ship kill locations for Privateers?
Why would I want to lose even a newbie ship to a bunch of noob gankers? I don't need to fight them to know how they do their killing, what they run away from, and the smack they talk in local when they have to dock up. I can see it all sitting in my shuttle. Just because you're not in Jita doing it, doesn't mean your not in another hub system doing it.
Tonight's the night the world begins again... |
Hellaciouss
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.02 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Hellaciouss on 02/03/2007 14:12:39
Originally by: The Dokter
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Ritchler
Originally by: Hellaciouss Lot's Of Hate
Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance
Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of ****
Actually, I've never fought them. I do sit in an alt shuttle in high sec a lot though and watch how they conduct their killing. It's pretty sad.
@Outbreak guy.
It's funny you say it's my corp/alliance I am describing? Firstly I don't speak for Genco or IAC, i have no authority at all. I speak for myself. Secondly, I have just one question, what exactly are you going to do when your vagas and sabres can no longer go 12km/s? Yah, I dock when you come by unless an OP gets thrown together because I simply find chasing you guys extremely boring.
So you give comments about the privateers, but you never engaged them or fought them, so actually you really don't know what you are talking about?
If you think OB only is good when we flying around in nanoships, I'm not going too tell what our treu power is, because I don't think you will undock much eather then
Just stop attacking people about there fun ingame, you have fun with what you do, we have fun with what we do and Privateers have fun with what they do. They play perfectly in gamemechanics and have fun, if you don't like that's your right and if you think they are out of line petition it, but don't start naging on the forums because it makes you and your alliance look rather sad, a bit like: " we are small and there a big it's not honest"
As I said, I don't need to fight them to know them. I watch them and the way they kill nearly every day.
I already know what OB is 'good at'.
Sorry but laying out a dozen cans at a stations undock point to keep people from aligning and warping seems pretty exploitative to me.
I didn't start the topic, and I am perfectly in my right to state my opinion of the Privateers in a Privateers thread. If you don't like it, don't read it. I couldn't care less what you think of me, but if you think I talk for my corporation or my alliance you are foolish. These are my opinions, and mine alone.
Tonight's the night the world begins again... |
Domalais
Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.03.02 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenicia
If an alliance is unable to handle the likes of Privateer Alliance, then trust me, they're unable to handle 0.0 space. It's not a matter of the individual not being ready, it's a matter of the alliance as a whole. And it's not a "player with years of experience telling what you can or cannot do", it's stating a fact.
I respectfully disagree. Empire war has very little in common with anything that happens in 0.0 - except NPC 0.0 space.
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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Hellaciouss All in all, 99.87% of Privateers aren't looking for the 'good' fights, only the easy ganks. Eventually they will be delt with by either CCP fixing the war dec system or players taking it into their own hands after the war.
When did that survey come out? I did not fill out anything that had: 1. Do you like easy ganks? (yes/no) 2. Do you station hug? (yes/no)
I find it unlikly that the majority of PvPers in the 0.0 Alliances will come roaring back into Empire just to kick some Privateer hiney. I am always reading how the people out in 0.0 say that people in Empire have it way to easy. Besides how will you "take care" of the Privateers? They don't have stations or POS's to take over. They are all over Empire with no central location other then the hubs. If you interdict the hubs they will just move somewhere else.
I don't like IAC anyway so you have no worries when it comes to my future employment.
The above are my views. I thought of them all by myself. My corp and Alliance did not help me at all ---------------------- Boom goes the ship! Squish goes the pilot!
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babylonstew
Caldari Caldari Scouting and Intel Group Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 15:31:00 -
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matter of fact, i have stopped a number of very damn fast nano ships with a huggin
including some 14k/s crows, so please, dont make any more assumptions becos your really starting to look a bit silly now
just becos YOU cant do it, doesnt mean others cant
------ *snip* please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo CCp nerfed my sig and all i got was this crummy message ^^^
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babylonstew
Caldari Caldari Scouting and Intel Group Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 15:31:00 -
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matter of fact, i have stopped a number of very damn fast nano ships with a huggin
including some 14k/s crows, so please, dont make any more assumptions becos your really starting to look a bit silly now
just becos YOU cant do it, doesnt mean others cant
------ *snip* please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo CCp nerfed my sig and all i got was this crummy message ^^^
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Jarling Fang
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Natalia Trade What I love about life is the people that are willing to help you out, and what I hate about life is the people that are so willing to pop you, trick you, scam you, or cheat you out of what is yours by straight out theft.
Fixed.
What you are witnessing is not a weakness of game mechanics, but a weakness of human nature that is more clearly laid-bare than in any other MMORPG. That the whole idea: the whole aspect of watching out for people that try to take advantage of you, and banding together with others for mutual protection and success. Real life works the same way; as a "30 something adult" you should be well aware of that fact by now. And, the spaceships and laser beams are just a thinly veiled cover for what EvE really is: a game of social drama. That is what makes it so appealing to some (and not so appealing to others that are looking for a less-sophisticated form of escapism "fun")
So my message to anyone who has a problem with any new challege that arises in EvE, PA or otherwise, is: Adapt or Die
You may find the struggle to adapt and succeed more fun than the game you have been used to!
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Steven McWayne
Gallente Decadence. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.02 15:50:00 -
[59]
mh Privateers drop nice loot. Get you a noob gang with t1 cruisers/frigs and gank em.
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axxll
Amarr Rogue Arrow Galactic Empire O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.03.02 15:54:00 -
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Dear Op,
There is an in-game channel for those who wish to engage Privateers. May i suggest you do some research, join the in-game channel, and have fun looking for those who are annoying you.
axxll
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