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Natalia Trade Amarr Trading Company Inc	Posted - 2007.03.02 06:32:00 - [1] So I have been playing this game for about 3 or 4 months now, I came in as a miner, trained about 2-3 weeks in Industry Skills, then a month or more in Learning Skills, then switched to Combat skills, I currently will break 4.5M sp's this time tomorow. This is my first MMORPG, I instantly fell in love with it, I love everything about it. The low sec is lawless and the high sec is "controlled, and safe", not a real true statement. Although I am a 30 something adult, I dont fall for scams easily, or take something that does not belong to me, so I have not gotten bitten by a scammer or can trick, but I will say I had quite a few friends that have been playing for a year or 2 that filled me in during my first days. What I love about the game is the people that are willing to help you out, and what I hate about this game is the people that are so willing to pop you, trick you, scam you, or cheat you out of what is yours by straight out theft. I dont mind if it is a legitimate my mistake I should of known better, but the devious "griefing" tricks these kids play is just redicilious. Although I have been playing a few months and have quite a few skills, I am in no way ready for PVP, I can fit and I do use most all t2 items, I have some real good combat skills, but I am no where close to people that have 6 months or more on me in skill training time. Although I know I am not ready to fight yet by meself, it is ultimately up to me when I get ready to go and fight, not some jugghead who thinks I am a carebear for not wanting to go to 0.0 and fight until I am ready. Call me a Carebear, n00b, whiner, whatever, point blank and simple my character is no where near ready to go and duke it out yet, let alone fight off these "High Sec Pirates" (Privateer Alliance) Now dont go and think I am or have been ganked by them, I live where they dont come, low sec. I roam and mine in 0.2 up to 0.4 space within a jump or 2 of empire. I consider this my training time getting ready for 0.0, but by no means am I ready for 0.0 and what I have seen so many call the "Real" part of the game. What really bugs me is who the hell are people to say and dictate when I should or should not move to 0.0, when I am ready I will move, and I dont need some guy who has played for years to tell me when I should move. 0.0 Sucks in my opinion anyway, No missions to run to make ISK, Battleship spawns in the belts so no solo/buddy mining for a character of my skill and wallet, there is constant war and strife down there, gate camps, Pirates, and more I dont know of yet, the only thing 0.0 has is Crokite, Bistot, Arknor, Morpohite, and Spudmain, and the 0.0 space I have been in all I have seen is Hedbergite which is Hermorphite on steroids. I can mine Jaspet and Hermorphite, sell the excess Noxcium for the Megacyte and not need to ever step foot in 0.0 for any reason. But I will one day go to 0.0 just so I can say I did it.... But this Privateer Alliance thing is out of control, I am not war dec'd by them, but I feel sorry for the guys that are, every day when I sign and move stuff to empire I see them camping gates waiting on some war target to jump through, or I see them camping the bases where the ships undock with 50 drones circling, but what really gets me hot is when I undock and get stuck up on 12 cans they put out to stick up the people undocking so they can kill them easy. This is nothing more than Legal High Sec Pirating, it is total Bull****. Then they say it is the n00bs fault for joining a Corp or Alliance, I dont know how many rookie ship wrecks I saw killed at the gate Saturday with less than a day pods sitting around, but to see it continue really makes me mad, it is nothing more than a game mechanic exploit. CCP if your going to let it continue, might as well get rid of "High Sec" alltogether and make it all low sec, because that is what the Privateer Alliance just did without low sec worries or consequenses to them.
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.02 06:36:00 - [2] Nice wall of text.
Phoenicia Macabre Votum Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.02 06:39:00 - [3] You're thinking it's personal when it's not. Privateer Alliance has something going for them here, and as far as I can see, they only dec big alliances- at the request of other big alliances (or wealthy individuals). And that resulted in them deccing half the universe. If an alliance is unable to handle the likes of Privateer Alliance, then trust me, they're unable to handle 0.0 space. It's not a matter of the individual not being ready, it's a matter of the alliance as a whole. And it's not a "player with years of experience telling what you can or cannot do", it's stating a fact. Willpower < Blob. Your Signature exceed the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Valorem ([email protected]) Peace is a lie, t
Gift Amarr Loot Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 06:52:00 - [4] Troll Pirates of Eve, Join channel "Pirate" Today!
mydingaling	Posted - 2007.03.02 06:53:00 - [5] Originally by: Natalia Trade i cant pvp because my skills suck.. Now see ur going to make the mistake lots do. U think u need all these skills to pvp. SO you work at it work at it, fit a ship thats all 'uber' then ull get spanked and will loose lots of isk and prob wont like pvp. Its not all about the sp. Its about experience, guts and actually fighting pvp. I have under 1mil skill points. Armed in my mighty rifter, i challenge people to duels in jita. Ive won as many as i have lost. Ive learnt lots and when i do loose, im only loosing frigs which dont cost much. Ive beat ppl with way more skill points than me. So the only thing thats stopping u from being good at pvp is this assumption u need better skills. There are always gunna be ppl out there more skilled than u. Best to learn while your clones dont cost much and use cheap ships. Build a few frigs with fittings and go fight. Do it now before loosing costs too much. :D
Lord XSiV Amarr The Nine Gates	Posted - 2007.03.02 06:59:00 - [6] I can sense the harshness that the forum troll community is undoubtably waiting to unleash upon this poor noobie..... (and if you disagree with that statement, you are silly) He just started the game so doesn't know what its like. Don't bring out the bat too harsh :) But ultimately to the op, you have to realize that is what eve is like.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.02 07:04:00 - [7] Originally by: Natalia Trade 0.0 Sucks in my opinion anyway, No missions to run to make ISK, Battleship spawns in the belts so no solo/buddy mining for a character of my skill and wallet, there is constant war and strife down there, gate camps, Pirates, and more I dont know of yet, the only thing 0.0 has is Crokite, Bistot, Arknor, Morpohite, and Spudmain, and the 0.0 space I have been in all I have seen is Hedbergite which is Hermorphite on steroids. I can mine Jaspet and Hermorphite, sell the excess Noxcium for the Megacyte and not need to ever step foot in 0.0 for any reason. 0.0 dont suck It's not the sort of place that you could exist solo. Mining ops bore the life out of me...but they are very profitbale (so I heard) and as for missions....well try cosmos for a quick bil As for Privateers, meh...they do their thing...who cares http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=47466
Cown Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:06:00 - [8] haha
The Beatnuts Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:19:00 - [9] Privateers is no joke. I see them as people who don't want to be involved with the 0.0 political mess, wich I totaly respect. But they want to be able to shooty shooty in empire... knowing that declaring 0.0 alliances in empire will bring them only ganks, no (or very few) 5+vs5+ fights. The problem through their ranks is that their corps haven't got the same level of coordination/skill. So you don't fight privateers, you fight BDCI, insertRandomPrivateerCorpName, ... Think it's about it. <za preved pizda>
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:21:00 - [10] There is actually quite a fair bit of agents in 0.0, and in fact they are the most profitable ones. I'm not talking about the 0.0 cosmos ones, just regular ole agents. You can find quite a few quiet pockets where you can mine and mission run. You can do both solo if you do it right, but you have to do it right and it does take a fair amount of skills. ----------------------------------------------------
Xio2 FAO Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:22:00 - [11] hehe buddy privateers dont exploit game mechs... only other peopls weaknesses. if you want to make isk and gain a little ground in the game... join up with some peeps who do the same thing you do or are looking to do. visit the recruitment thread 2 forums above this one... you do need tons of sp to do good against pilots that have been playing a while in pvp but against people(notice how i didn't say newbs) who are just starting you dont need many... which is exactly where privateers get their edge... i call these people beginners even if they are old only because they dont know how to avoid empire war gankers... it takes a while and some cunning but you will eventually get it. just dont give up and dont fly expensive crap through zones where you can be blown up... -------------- now this is the way a sig should be Xio2
Sabuto Caldari Dust Echoes FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:23:00 - [12] CCP should set a limit of Ingame war declarations per alliance / corp.
Trina Tron Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:25:00 - [13] Whats with this "3 or 4 months is to new to pvp" I was out in 0.0 my first week of the game fighting aginst people that had played since the beta. Eve has soften up alot, In its time compared to what it once was. Perhaps eve is simply not the game for you. ----------------------------------- Originally by: Santiago Cortes Locked Begging is not allowed or appreciated on the forums. Whining remains perfectly acceptable.
Doktor Soet The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:30:00 - [14] 0.0 space is the best place u can be. its definatly not what u might see now. there r 0.0 systems where the isks r floating around, waiting just for u to grab them. it`s so easy to make a big amount of isks in no time. mining, ratting, mission running, cosmos... take a closer look before u say things that r simple not true and what i like most bout 0.0 space is that its so quite. no "annoying" wtb, wts, wtt chats all the time in local. u know that in 0.0 space r npc station where u can run missions?
Belial02 Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.02 08:41:00 - [15] 1 - You dont need leet skills for pvp. On the contrary the earlier you learn the better it is. I was pirating solo in a punisher. 2 - 0.0 is sweet. There is no bettter place that i know of where theres so much money to make. And yes there are missions AND you can rat solo in a 6 months old char, i think i started ratting solo there at about 4-5 months. Just gotta pick your rats carefully. If you're Amarr, dont go for Angels. But rather for Bloods/Sanshas. 3 - Privateers suck and they are a useless band of Jita gankers who dont have the guts to come down to 0.0 and fight the ones they wardec. They dont seem to realize that it takes only a day to make a hauling alt. They are just adding to the lag. Originally by: Omeega diplomacy is f1, f2, f3, really...
Major Stormer Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.03.02 09:07:00 - [16] Originally by: Sabuto CCP should set a limit of Ingame war declarations per alliance / corp. The reason I play this game is that it is largely unlimited. Comments like that make me puke.
Director Stoned Band of Developers	Posted - 2007.03.02 09:39:00 - [17] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Nice wall of text. Cambodia: For those who think television is too slow
Redbad Minmatar Be Inspired Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.02 10:19:00 - [18] Funny thing is .... they do all the laughing join us today!
Cown Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 10:36:00 - [19] Originally by: Belial02 3 - Privateers suck and they are a useless band of Jita gankers who dont have the guts to come down to 0.0 and fight the ones they wardec. They dont seem to realize that it takes only a day to make a hauling alt. They are just adding to the lag. HAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAH
The Dokter 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.02 11:00:00 - [20] Why is everybody starting a thread about the Privateers, say they are losers, that they are nothing, they are only for the eassy gank and that the "real" pvpers live in 0.0? Because if that would be really the case, they wouldn't be intresting for the "real" pvpers, so I think privateers are rather good in what they are doing. Because the need too have a big effect if people get so agitated over them So privateers keep up what ever you are doing, I like it that the "real" pvpers, seem too be a bit of ............ "It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you."
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2007.03.02 11:08:00 - [21] Go Privateers! Soon I will have enought money to rejoin Welcome to Caldari-Online You FINNISH nub? Join PERVS!
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 11:08:00 - [22] Originally by: The Dokter Why is everybody starting a thread about the Privateers, say they are losers, that they are nothing, they are only for the eassy gank and that the "real" pvpers live in 0.0? Because if that would be really the case, they wouldn't be intresting for the "real" pvpers, so I think privateers are rather good in what they are doing. Because the need too have a big effect if people get so agitated over them So privateers keep up what ever you are doing, I like it that the "real" pvpers, seem too be a bit of ............ I agree with this. An awful lot of whining about PA. Instead I would say that with elite combat units like kemono joining you've proven you are doing something right. Keep up the good work PA! :)
sakana Purgatorial Janitors Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.02 11:13:00 - [23] ok, so is this a whine about privateers, or about how your sick of people talking about 0.0? Originally by: Natalia Trade 0.0 Sucks in my opinion anyway, No missions to run to make ISK, Battleship spawns in the belts so no solo/buddy mining for a character of my skill and wallet, there is constant war and strife down there, gate camps, Pirates, and more I dont know of yet, the only thing 0.0 has is Crokite, Bistot, Arknor, Morpohite, and Spudmain, and the 0.0 space I have been in all I have seen is Hedbergite which is Hermorphite on steroids. I can mine Jaspet and Hermorphite, sell the excess Noxcium for the Megacyte and not need to ever step foot in 0.0 for any reason. obviously you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to 0.0, so "dont dis it til you've tried it". ------------
darth solo Insurgency	Posted - 2007.03.02 11:18:00 - [24] i dont have a problem how this alliance works, it actually looks like alot of fun. Unlike most we actually war dec'd them. all you need to do is tell us where u see regular gate camps and post on celes apoc forums and we will most prob come over and fight them. d solo. celes apoc new kilboard
Laythun Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.02 11:19:00 - [25] This thread fails to deliver snip please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo Black Lance Brother
Ritchler Gallente BOOM - Gotcha	Posted - 2007.03.02 11:19:00 - [26] Look, ill be blunt Empire is not your safe haven It is a decable thing to be in a corp, u don't like it, join a NPC corp and stay in it Stop coming to these forums and having a go @ them all the time. The use LEGAL and VIABLE GAME MECHANICS, there is nothing wrong with what they do, we have fought them, we have respect for them. If you don't like it, quit Enough of these posts
Admiral Feelgood Even-Flow	Posted - 2007.03.02 11:19:00 - [27] tl;dr version Hey I've been mining for a long time which is why you want to hear about my life story and all my uninformed presumptions. PS privateers suck because of war decs making high sec unsafe LOL!
babylonstew Caldari Caldari Scouting and Intel Group Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 11:22:00 - [28] Originally by: darth solo i dont have a problem how this alliance works, it actually looks like alot of fun. Unlike most we actually war dec'd them. all you need to do is tell us where u see regular gate camps and post on celes apoc forums and we will most prob come over and fight them. d solo. you seam to have no trouble finding litle old us very well without help but had couple of fun fights, nothing major but still fun with you guys ------ snip please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo CCp nerfed my sig and all i got was this crummy message ^^^
mamolian Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 11:22:00 - [29] there must be devs in PA :p yes.. this is CCP's big plan to hunt everyone out of empire! Evil plan.. evil -------------------------------
Hellaciouss Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.02 11:27:00 - [30] Something will eventually be done with the war dec system. Right now not much is being done about them as there is an extremely big war going on. Privateers also have a habit of station hugging and insta docking when anything that could prove close to a challenge pulls up. Placing cans at the exit of a station so they bounce people around making it impossible for them to align and warp is pretty lame and you should probably petition it, you may get a response and whoever is doing it could get a warning/temp ban for obvious griefing of people they aren't even at war against. All in all, 99.87% of Privateers aren't looking for the 'good' fights, only the easy ganks. Eventually they will be delt with by either CCP fixing the war dec system or players taking it into their own hands after the war. I am sure a lot of the alliance they have decked won't forget them. Me, personnely, I wouldn't let a single privateers into my corp/alliance after the big alliances turn their attention towards them and the mass exodus of their alliance begins because they can't handle real PvP'ers with equal numbers. Tonight's the night the world begins again...

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