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Natalia Trade
Amarr Trading Company Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.02 06:32:00 -
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So I have been playing this game for about 3 or 4 months now, I came in as a miner, trained about 2-3 weeks in Industry Skills, then a month or more in Learning Skills, then switched to Combat skills, I currently will break 4.5M sp's this time tomorow.
This is my first MMORPG, I instantly fell in love with it, I love everything about it. The low sec is lawless and the high sec is "controlled, and safe", not a real true statement. Although I am a 30 something adult, I dont fall for scams easily, or take something that does not belong to me, so I have not gotten bitten by a scammer or can trick, but I will say I had quite a few friends that have been playing for a year or 2 that filled me in during my first days.
What I love about the game is the people that are willing to help you out, and what I hate about this game is the people that are so willing to pop you, trick you, scam you, or cheat you out of what is yours by straight out theft. I dont mind if it is a legitimate my mistake I should of known better, but the devious "griefing" tricks these kids play is just redicilious.
Although I have been playing a few months and have quite a few skills, I am in no way ready for PVP, I can fit and I do use most all t2 items, I have some real good combat skills, but I am no where close to people that have 6 months or more on me in skill training time. Although I know I am not ready to fight yet by meself, it is ultimately up to me when I get ready to go and fight, not some jugghead who thinks I am a carebear for not wanting to go to 0.0 and fight until I am ready. Call me a Carebear, n00b, whiner, whatever, point blank and simple my character is no where near ready to go and duke it out yet, let alone fight off these "High Sec Pirates" (Privateer Alliance)
Now dont go and think I am or have been ganked by them, I live where they dont come, low sec. I roam and mine in 0.2 up to 0.4 space within a jump or 2 of empire. I consider this my training time getting ready for 0.0, but by no means am I ready for 0.0 and what I have seen so many call the "Real" part of the game. What really bugs me is who the hell are people to say and dictate when I should or should not move to 0.0, when I am ready I will move, and I dont need some guy who has played for years to tell me when I should move.
0.0 Sucks in my opinion anyway, No missions to run to make ISK, Battleship spawns in the belts so no solo/buddy mining for a character of my skill and wallet, there is constant war and strife down there, gate camps, Pirates, and more I dont know of yet, the only thing 0.0 has is Crokite, Bistot, Arknor, Morpohite, and Spudmain, and the 0.0 space I have been in all I have seen is Hedbergite which is Hermorphite on steroids. I can mine Jaspet and Hermorphite, sell the excess Noxcium for the Megacyte and not need to ever step foot in 0.0 for any reason.
But I will one day go to 0.0 just so I can say I did it....
But this Privateer Alliance thing is out of control, I am not war dec'd by them, but I feel sorry for the guys that are, every day when I sign and move stuff to empire I see them camping gates waiting on some war target to jump through, or I see them camping the bases where the ships undock with 50 drones circling, but what really gets me hot is when I undock and get stuck up on 12 cans they put out to stick up the people undocking so they can kill them easy.
This is nothing more than Legal High Sec Pirating, it is total Bull****. Then they say it is the n00bs fault for joining a Corp or Alliance, I dont know how many rookie ship wrecks I saw killed at the gate Saturday with less than a day pods sitting around, but to see it continue really makes me mad, it is nothing more than a game mechanic exploit.
CCP if your going to let it continue, might as well get rid of "High Sec" alltogether and make it all low sec, because that is what the Privateer Alliance just did without low sec worries or consequenses to them. |
Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.02 06:36:00 -
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Nice wall of text.
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Phoenicia
Macabre Votum
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.03.02 06:39:00 -
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You're thinking it's personal when it's not. Privateer Alliance has something going for them here, and as far as I can see, they only dec big alliances- at the request of other big alliances (or wealthy individuals). And that resulted in them deccing half the universe.
If an alliance is unable to handle the likes of Privateer Alliance, then trust me, they're unable to handle 0.0 space. It's not a matter of the individual not being ready, it's a matter of the alliance as a whole. And it's not a "player with years of experience telling what you can or cannot do", it's stating a fact.
Willpower < Blob.
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Gift
Amarr
Loot
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 06:52:00 -
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Troll
Pirates of Eve, Join channel "Pirate" Today!
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mydingaling
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Posted - 2007.03.02 06:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Natalia Trade
i cant pvp because my skills suck..
Now see ur going to make the mistake lots do. U think u need all these skills to pvp. SO you work at it work at it, fit a ship thats all 'uber' then ull get spanked and will loose lots of isk and prob wont like pvp.
Its not all about the sp. Its about experience, guts and actually fighting pvp.
I have under 1mil skill points. Armed in my mighty rifter, i challenge people to duels in jita. Ive won as many as i have lost. Ive learnt lots and when i do loose, im only loosing frigs which dont cost much. Ive beat ppl with way more skill points than me.
So the only thing thats stopping u from being good at pvp is this assumption u need better skills. There are always gunna be ppl out there more skilled than u. Best to learn while your clones dont cost much and use cheap ships.
Build a few frigs with fittings and go fight. Do it now before loosing costs too much.
:D
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Lord XSiV
Amarr
The Nine Gates
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Posted - 2007.03.02 06:59:00 -
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I can sense the harshness that the forum troll community is undoubtably waiting to unleash upon this poor noobie..... (and if you disagree with that statement, you are silly)
He just started the game so doesn't know what its like. Don't bring out the bat too harsh :)
But ultimately to the op, you have to realize that is what eve is like.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.02 07:04:00 -
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Originally by: Natalia Trade
0.0 Sucks in my opinion anyway, No missions to run to make ISK, Battleship spawns in the belts so no solo/buddy mining for a character of my skill and wallet, there is constant war and strife down there, gate camps, Pirates, and more I dont know of yet, the only thing 0.0 has is Crokite, Bistot, Arknor, Morpohite, and Spudmain, and the 0.0 space I have been in all I have seen is Hedbergite which is Hermorphite on steroids. I can mine Jaspet and Hermorphite, sell the excess Noxcium for the Megacyte and not need to ever step foot in 0.0 for any reason.
0.0 dont suck  It's not the sort of place that you could exist solo. Mining ops bore the life out of me...but they are very profitbale (so I heard) and as for missions....well try cosmos for a quick bil 
As for Privateers, meh...they do their thing...who cares 
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=47466 |
Cown
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 08:06:00 -
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haha
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The Beatnuts
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.02 08:19:00 -
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Privateers is no joke.
I see them as people who don't want to be involved with the 0.0 political mess, wich I totaly respect.
But they want to be able to shooty shooty in empire... knowing that declaring 0.0 alliances in empire will bring them only ganks, no (or very few) 5+vs5+ fights.
The problem through their ranks is that their corps haven't got the same level of coordination/skill.
So you don't fight privateers, you fight BDCI, insertRandomPrivateerCorpName, ...
Think it's about it.
<za preved pizda>
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Farrellus Cameron
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.03.02 08:21:00 -
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There is actually quite a fair bit of agents in 0.0, and in fact they are the most profitable ones. I'm not talking about the 0.0 cosmos ones, just regular ole agents. You can find quite a few quiet pockets where you can mine and mission run. You can do both solo if you do it right, but you have to do it right and it does take a fair amount of skills.
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Xio2
FAO Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.02 08:22:00 -
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hehe buddy privateers dont exploit game mechs... only other peopls weaknesses.
if you want to make isk and gain a little ground in the game... join up with some peeps who do the same thing you do or are looking to do. visit the recruitment thread 2 forums above this one... you do need tons of sp to do good against pilots that have been playing a while in pvp but against people(notice how i didn't say newbs) who are just starting you dont need many... which is exactly where privateers get their edge... i call these people beginners even if they are old only because they dont know how to avoid empire war gankers... it takes a while and some cunning but you will eventually get it.
just dont give up and dont fly expensive crap through zones where you can be blown up...
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Sabuto
Caldari
Dust Echoes
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 08:23:00 -
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CCP should set a limit of Ingame war declarations per alliance / corp.
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Trina Tron
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.02 08:25:00 -
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Whats with this "3 or 4 months is to new to pvp" I was out in 0.0 my first week of the game fighting aginst people that had played since the beta. Eve has soften up alot, In its time compared to what it once was. Perhaps eve is simply not the game for you.
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Originally by: Santiago Cortes
*Locked*
Begging is not allowed or appreciated on the forums.
Whining remains perfectly acceptable.
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Doktor Soet
The X-Trading Company
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.02 08:30:00 -
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0.0 space is the best place u can be. its definatly not what u might see now. there r 0.0 systems where the isks r floating around, waiting just for u to grab them. it`s so easy to make a big amount of isks in no time. mining, ratting, mission running, cosmos... take a closer look before u say things that r simple not true
and what i like most bout 0.0 space is that its so quite. no "annoying" wtb, wts, wtt chats all the time in local.
u know that in 0.0 space r npc station where u can run missions?
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Belial02
Amarr
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.02 08:41:00 -
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1 - You dont need leet skills for pvp. On the contrary the earlier you learn the better it is. I was pirating solo in a punisher.
2 - 0.0 is sweet. There is no bettter place that i know of where theres so much money to make. And yes there are missions AND you can rat solo in a 6 months old char, i think i started ratting solo there at about 4-5 months. Just gotta pick your rats carefully. If you're Amarr, dont go for Angels. But rather for Bloods/Sanshas.
3 - Privateers suck and they are a useless band of Jita gankers who dont have the guts to come down to 0.0 and fight the ones they wardec. They dont seem to realize that it takes only a day to make a hauling alt. They are just adding to the lag.
Originally by: Omeega
diplomacy is f1, f2, f3, really...
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.02 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sabuto
CCP should set a limit of Ingame war declarations per alliance / corp.
The reason I play this game is that it is largely unlimited. Comments like that make me puke.
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Director Stoned
Band of Developers
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Posted - 2007.03.02 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Nice wall of text.
Cambodia: For those who think television is too slow
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Redbad
Minmatar
Be Inspired Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.02 10:19:00 -
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Funny thing is .... they do all the laughing  
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Cown
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Belial02
3 - Privateers suck and they are a useless band of Jita gankers who dont have the guts to come down to 0.0 and fight the ones they wardec. They dont seem to realize that it takes only a day to make a hauling alt. They are just adding to the lag.
HAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAH
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The Dokter
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:00:00 -
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Why is everybody starting a thread about the Privateers, say they are losers, that they are nothing, they are only for the eassy gank and that the "real" pvpers live in 0.0? Because if that would be really the case, they wouldn't be intresting for the "real" pvpers, so I think privateers are rather good in what they are doing. Because the need too have a big effect if people get so agitated over them
So privateers keep up what ever you are doing, I like it that the "real" pvpers, seem too be a bit of ............
"It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you." |
Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:08:00 -
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Go Privateers! Soon I will have enought money to rejoin
Welcome to Caldari-Online
You FINNISH nub? Join PERVS!
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: The Dokter
Why is everybody starting a thread about the Privateers, say they are losers, that they are nothing, they are only for the eassy gank and that the "real" pvpers live in 0.0? Because if that would be really the case, they wouldn't be intresting for the "real" pvpers, so I think privateers are rather good in what they are doing. Because the need too have a big effect if people get so agitated over them
So privateers keep up what ever you are doing, I like it that the "real" pvpers, seem too be a bit of ............
I agree with this. An awful lot of whining about PA. Instead I would say that with elite combat units like kemono joining you've proven you are doing something right.
Keep up the good work PA! :)
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sakana
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:13:00 -
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ok, so is this a whine about privateers, or about how your sick of people talking about 0.0?
Originally by: Natalia Trade
0.0 Sucks in my opinion anyway, No missions to run to make ISK, Battleship spawns in the belts so no solo/buddy mining for a character of my skill and wallet, there is constant war and strife down there, gate camps, Pirates, and more I dont know of yet, the only thing 0.0 has is Crokite, Bistot, Arknor, Morpohite, and Spudmain, and the 0.0 space I have been in all I have seen is Hedbergite which is Hermorphite on steroids. I can mine Jaspet and Hermorphite, sell the excess Noxcium for the Megacyte and not need to ever step foot in 0.0 for any reason.
obviously you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to 0.0, so "dont dis it til you've tried it".
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darth solo
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:18:00 -
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i dont have a problem how this alliance works, it actually looks like alot of fun.
Unlike most we actually war dec'd them. all you need to do is tell us where u see regular gate camps and post on celes apoc forums and we will most prob come over and fight them.
d solo.
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Laythun
Black Lance
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:19:00 -
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This thread fails to deliver
*snip* please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo
Black Lance Brother
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Ritchler
Gallente
BOOM - Gotcha
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:19:00 -
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Look, ill be blunt
Empire is not your *safe haven*
It is a decable thing to be in a corp, u don't like it, join a NPC corp and stay in it
Stop coming to these forums and having a go @ them all the time. The use LEGAL and VIABLE GAME MECHANICS, there is nothing wrong with what they do, we have fought them, we have respect for them.
If you don't like it, quit
Enough of these posts
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Admiral Feelgood
Even-Flow
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:19:00 -
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tl;dr version
Hey I've been mining for a long time which is why you want to hear about my life story and all my uninformed presumptions. PS privateers suck because of war decs making high sec unsafe LOL!
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babylonstew
Caldari
Caldari Scouting and Intel Group
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo
i dont have a problem how this alliance works, it actually looks like alot of fun.
Unlike most we actually war dec'd them. all you need to do is tell us where u see regular gate camps and post on celes apoc forums and we will most prob come over and fight them.
d solo.
you seam to have no trouble finding litle old us very well without help 
but had couple of fun fights, nothing major but still fun with you guys
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mamolian
Vortex.
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:22:00 -
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there must be devs in PA :p
yes.. this is CCP's big plan to hunt everyone out of empire!
Evil plan.. *evil* 
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Hellaciouss
Genco
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:27:00 -
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Something will eventually be done with the war dec system.
Right now not much is being done about them as there is an extremely big war going on.
Privateers also have a habit of station hugging and insta docking when anything that could prove close to a challenge pulls up.
Placing cans at the exit of a station so they bounce people around making it impossible for them to align and warp is pretty lame and you should probably petition it, you may get a response and whoever is doing it could get a warning/temp ban for obvious griefing of people they aren't even at war against.
All in all, 99.87% of Privateers aren't looking for the 'good' fights, only the easy ganks. Eventually they will be delt with by either CCP fixing the war dec system or players taking it into their own hands after the war. I am sure a lot of the alliance they have decked won't forget them. Me, personnely, I wouldn't let a single privateers into my corp/alliance after the big alliances turn their attention towards them and the mass exodus of their alliance begins because they can't handle real PvP'ers with equal numbers.
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Franga
Caldari
NQX Logistics
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
As for Privateers, meh...they do their thing...who cares
Flinx, don't get me wrong. I love you. Seriously. During my time in D2 you were one cool cat. I mean, for real, I would have your babies.
But I remember in another Privateer thread that you dissed these guys chronically. If I remember the word 'tard' was used and you said yourself that these guys are pathetic losers who use can traps to pop people undocking before their screen loads.
I'm with everyone else who says that 0.0 is good. I agree. Love it and will be back there soon (POS warfare sucks, though). However, I've got to say as well, that Privateer is a very silly alliance. They use alot of exploits. Just go to the 15+ page thread entitled 'This Is How It Works'. You'll see many opinions of these guys there.
I tend to think that these guys in Privateer are actually afraid of the PVP groups that live in 0.0 - please note that I don't include Outbreak in the same category as Privateer, they actually have the guts to do things that go beyond quick and easy ganks - I mean, empire is the land of haulers and PVE setups. No match for PVP setups.
Like I said in that other thread - How brave! How noble! 
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Cown
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Hellaciouss
Something will eventually be done with the war dec system.
Right now not much is being done about them as there is an extremely big war going on.
Privateers also have a habit of station hugging and insta docking when anything that could prove close to a challenge pulls up.
Placing cans at the exit of a station so they bounce people around making it impossible for them to align and warp is pretty lame and you should probably petition it, you may get a response and whoever is doing it could get a warning/temp ban for obvious griefing of people they aren't even at war against.
All in all, 99.87% of Privateers aren't looking for the 'good' fights, only the easy ganks. Eventually they will be delt with by either CCP fixing the war dec system or players taking it into their own hands after the war. I am sure a lot of the alliance they have decked won't forget them. Me, personnely, I wouldn't let a single privateers into my corp/alliance after the big alliances turn their attention towards them and the mass exodus of their alliance begins because they can't handle real PvP'ers with equal numbers.
ROFLMAO
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Hellaciouss
Genco
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Cown
ROFLMAO
It's funny cause it's true, I know
I feel bad for you guys.
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The Dokter
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: The Dokter on 02/03/2007 11:38:00
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Something will eventually be done with the war dec system.
Right now not much is being done about them as there is an extremely big war going on.
Privateers also have a habit of station hugging and insta docking when anything that could prove close to a challenge pulls up.
Are you giving a description about your corp? The docking part if you can't win, the station/pos huging, uber blobbing? Doesn't everybody do that at some time?
Why should there something be done about the wardec system? So that 0.0 alliances can safly travel through high sec? The system is working perfect, privateers wardec a lot of people. So it means they have too be very carefull who they agress and where. People who don't want like the effect of the wardecs, go too 0.0 or get in a noob corp or....stupid one.....fight back.
We have been wardecced by the privateers, didn't like it because I had to move stuff from north too south. But that's eve, other people don't stop when you don't like it. If you don't want that, go play an other game and set it on easy.
And for the op, you can pvp after 1 week, just get some friends together and have fun in 0.0. Eve isn't ment as a solo game and never will.
"It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you." |
R3dSh1ft
Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:38:00 -
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tl;dr
we all know privis and their ways
they know the truth about us too : In 0.0 nobody can hear you scream! (and there are not many stations that will let them dock).
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Ritchler
Gallente
BOOM - Gotcha
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:38:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Lot's Of Hate
Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance
Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of ****
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Cown
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Cown
ROFLMAO
It's funny cause it's true, I know
I feel bad for you guys.
Hahaha seriously keep it up, this is so funny
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Hellaciouss
Genco
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:49:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Ritchler
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Lot's Of Hate
Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance
Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of ****
Actually, I've never fought them. I do sit in an alt shuttle in high sec a lot though and watch how they conduct their killing. It's pretty sad.
@Outbreak guy.
It's funny you say it's my corp/alliance I am describing? Firstly I don't speak for Genco or IAC, i have no authority at all. I speak for myself. Secondly, I have just one question, what exactly are you going to do when your vagas and sabres can no longer go 12km/s? Yah, I dock when you come by unless an OP gets thrown together because I simply find chasing you guys extremely boring.
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Patient 4127
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Natalia Trade
But this Privateer Alliance thing is out of control, I am not war dec'd by them, but I feel sorry for the guys that are, every day when I sign and move stuff to empire I see them camping gates waiting on some war target to jump through, or I see them camping the bases where the ships undock with 50 drones circling, but what really gets me hot is when I undock and get stuck up on 12 cans they put out to stick up the people undocking so they can kill them easy.
Yeah, sorry about that. I don't do it, but everyone in privateers does there own thing, and let's face it, we are pirates, or something close to it.
Originally by: Natalia Trade
This is nothing more than Legal High Sec Pirating
Correct. Well, close. I refer you to wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privateer
Originally by: Natalia Trade
Then they say it is the n00bs fault for joining a Corp or Alliance, I dont know how many rookie ship wrecks I saw killed at the gate Saturday with less than a day pods sitting around
Those are typicallya newbie scout alts of experienced characters. They made the character just to send it in to scout the camps with no risk. A standard tactic.
Originally by: Natalia Trade
It is nothing more than a game mechanic exploit.
The billions a week it costs for the wars says otherwise. Various patrons have given us our Letters of Marque to raid hostile shipping. And that we do.
Originally by: Natalia Trade
CCP if your going to let it continue, might as well get rid of "High Sec" alltogether and make it all low sec, because that is what the Privateer Alliance just did without low sec worries or consequenses to them.
The Privateers are of no relevance (except for fallout from some of the station tactics, sorry again about that) to those people that actually NEED High Sec to be safe space.
A PvP group, a set of sorta-mercs, pirates unleached on your enemies, call it what you will.
It's (mostly) not outright griefing. We don't (to the extent you can say "we") generally attack non-war targets. It stuffs with your sec status, and god knows there's enough legitimate targets.
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Lagkills
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2007.03.02 11:53:00 -
[40]
Go Privateers GO!...
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Franga
Flinx, don't get me wrong. I love you. Seriously. During my time in D2 you were one cool cat. I mean, for real, I would have your babies.
Thanks dude, I'n not sure how to take that 
It's no secret that I think that camping Jita 4-4 is lame, but live and let live I guess.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=47466 |
Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:37:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Franga
Flinx, don't get me wrong. I love you. Seriously. During my time in D2 you were one cool cat. I mean, for real, I would have your babies.
Thanks dude, I'n not sure how to take that
It's no secret that I think that camping Jita 4-4 is lame, but live and let live I guess.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=47466 |
Lance Hawke
New Age Solutions
New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:38:00 -
[43]
what level can I PVP at?
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Lance Hawke
New Age Solutions
New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:38:00 -
[44]
what level can I PVP at?
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:41:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Natalia Trade
Privateer Alliance Is A Joke
Considering the amount of whineage, they are an annoying joke (which means that they are doing something right). ^_^
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:41:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Natalia Trade
Privateer Alliance Is A Joke
Considering the amount of whineage, they are an annoying joke (which means that they are doing something right). ^_^
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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The Dokter
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:55:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Ritchler
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Lot's Of Hate
Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance
Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of ****
Actually, I've never fought them. I do sit in an alt shuttle in high sec a lot though and watch how they conduct their killing. It's pretty sad.
@Outbreak guy.
It's funny you say it's my corp/alliance I am describing? Firstly I don't speak for Genco or IAC, i have no authority at all. I speak for myself. Secondly, I have just one question, what exactly are you going to do when your vagas and sabres can no longer go 12km/s? Yah, I dock when you come by unless an OP gets thrown together because I simply find chasing you guys extremely boring.
So you give comments about the privateers, but you never engaged them or fought them, so actually you really don't know what you are talking about?
If you think OB only is good when we flying around in nanoships, I'm not going too tell what our treu power is, because I don't think you will undock much eather then 
Just stop attacking people about there fun ingame, you have fun with what you do, we have fun with what we do and Privateers have fun with what they do. They play perfectly in gamemechanics and have fun, if you don't like that's your right and if you think they are out of line petition it, but don't start naging on the forums because it makes you and your alliance look rather sad, a bit like: " we are small and there a big it's not honest"
"It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you." |
The Dokter
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.02 12:55:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Ritchler
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Lot's Of Hate
Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance
Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of ****
Actually, I've never fought them. I do sit in an alt shuttle in high sec a lot though and watch how they conduct their killing. It's pretty sad.
@Outbreak guy.
It's funny you say it's my corp/alliance I am describing? Firstly I don't speak for Genco or IAC, i have no authority at all. I speak for myself. Secondly, I have just one question, what exactly are you going to do when your vagas and sabres can no longer go 12km/s? Yah, I dock when you come by unless an OP gets thrown together because I simply find chasing you guys extremely boring.
So you give comments about the privateers, but you never engaged them or fought them, so actually you really don't know what you are talking about?
If you think OB only is good when we flying around in nanoships, I'm not going too tell what our treu power is, because I don't think you will undock much eather then
Just stop attacking people about there fun ingame, you have fun with what you do, we have fun with what we do and Privateers have fun with what they do. They play perfectly in gamemechanics and have fun, if you don't like that's your right and if you think they are out of line petition it, but don't start naging on the forums because it makes you and your alliance look rather sad, a bit like: " we are small and there a big it's not honest"
"It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you." |
Preem Palvor
ExploRiggery Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.02 13:01:00 -
[49]
When I was flying through Niarja yesterday, I saw SEVERAL privateer wrecks and I think Omen were doing a mighty fine job clearing out any privateers from their camps nearby. I feel the only ones that complain are the ones that fly alone and are not prepared. Yesterday showed me that with a gang of about 5, you can not only get through their camps, but bust them as well. Great job Omen (or whoever it was)!
Rigs, Research, Blueprints and More! |
Preem Palvor
ExploRiggery Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.02 13:01:00 -
[50]
When I was flying through Niarja yesterday, I saw SEVERAL privateer wrecks and I think Omen were doing a mighty fine job clearing out any privateers from their camps nearby. I feel the only ones that complain are the ones that fly alone and are not prepared. Yesterday showed me that with a gang of about 5, you can not only get through their camps, but bust them as well. Great job Omen (or whoever it was)!
Rigs, Research, Blueprints and More! |
babylonstew
Caldari
Caldari Scouting and Intel Group
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 13:17:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Ritchler
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Lot's Of Hate
Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance
Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of ****
Actually, I've never fought them. I do sit in an alt shuttle in high sec a lot though and watch how they conduct their killing. It's pretty sad.
@Outbreak guy.
It's funny you say it's my corp/alliance I am describing? Firstly I don't speak for Genco or IAC, i have no authority at all. I speak for myself. Secondly, I have just one question, what exactly are you going to do when your vagas and sabres can no longer go 12km/s? Yah, I dock when you come by unless an OP gets thrown together because I simply find chasing you guys extremely boring.
if only ccp released like say a recon cruiser with i dunno, web bonuses and stuff be awsome to combat nano ships
o wait a minute
and whats with this jita crap?
find a kill mail with me on it from jita in the last 6 months, i dare you
i specifically DONT go anywhere near jita, unless its to shop.
and in case you spot the kills from ours, be advised, all those kills were when certain corps tried to either bait us and it bit them in the arse, or we baited them.
so knock the jita crap off will you, not everyone shoots targets there, let alone even goes near the damn place
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*snip* please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo
CCp nerfed my sig and all i got was this crummy message ^^^
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Hellaciouss
Genco
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.02 14:00:00 -
[52]
Originally by: babylonstew
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Ritchler
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Lot's Of Hate
Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance
Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of ****
Actually, I've never fought them. I do sit in an alt shuttle in high sec a lot though and watch how they conduct their killing. It's pretty sad.
@Outbreak guy.
It's funny you say it's my corp/alliance I am describing? Firstly I don't speak for Genco or IAC, i have no authority at all. I speak for myself. Secondly, I have just one question, what exactly are you going to do when your vagas and sabres can no longer go 12km/s? Yah, I dock when you come by unless an OP gets thrown together because I simply find chasing you guys extremely boring.
if only ccp released like say a recon cruiser with i dunno, web bonuses and stuff be awsome to combat nano ships
o wait a minute
and whats with this jita crap?
find a kill mail with me on it from jita in the last 6 months, i dare you
i specifically DONT go anywhere near jita, unless its to shop.
and in case you spot the kills from ours, be advised, all those kills were when certain corps tried to either bait us and it bit them in the arse, or we baited them.
so knock the jita crap off will you, not everyone shoots targets there, let alone even goes near the damn place
You've obviously never tried to stop a vaga or sabre going 12km/s, even in a recon. Their momentum alone will get them out of a web. Are you too naive to think no one has tried? It's near impossible to stop a ship going that fast (notice the uproar about nano/istabs) unless you've got a large gang. Tell me, what other battlecruiser or dictor requires and entire gang to bring down? Should they require an entire gang to bring down? You have to make some extremely large mistakes(yes, not one, but a few extremely large mistakes) to lose a sabre or vaga going those speeds.
Oh, and that's why Jita is leading the killboards by a pretty big margin in ship kill locations for Privateers?
Why would I want to lose even a newbie ship to a bunch of noob gankers? I don't need to fight them to know how they do their killing, what they run away from, and the smack they talk in local when they have to dock up. I can see it all sitting in my shuttle. Just because you're not in Jita doing it, doesn't mean your not in another hub system doing it.
Tonight's the night the world begins again... |
Hellaciouss
Genco
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.02 14:14:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Hellaciouss on 02/03/2007 14:12:39
Originally by: The Dokter
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Ritchler
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Lot's Of Hate
Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance
Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of ****
Actually, I've never fought them. I do sit in an alt shuttle in high sec a lot though and watch how they conduct their killing. It's pretty sad.
@Outbreak guy.
It's funny you say it's my corp/alliance I am describing? Firstly I don't speak for Genco or IAC, i have no authority at all. I speak for myself. Secondly, I have just one question, what exactly are you going to do when your vagas and sabres can no longer go 12km/s? Yah, I dock when you come by unless an OP gets thrown together because I simply find chasing you guys extremely boring.
So you give comments about the privateers, but you never engaged them or fought them, so actually you really don't know what you are talking about?
If you think OB only is good when we flying around in nanoships, I'm not going too tell what our treu power is, because I don't think you will undock much eather then
Just stop attacking people about there fun ingame, you have fun with what you do, we have fun with what we do and Privateers have fun with what they do. They play perfectly in gamemechanics and have fun, if you don't like that's your right and if you think they are out of line petition it, but don't start naging on the forums because it makes you and your alliance look rather sad, a bit like: " we are small and there a big it's not honest"
As I said, I don't need to fight them to know them. I watch them and the way they kill nearly every day.
I already know what OB is 'good at'.
Sorry but laying out a dozen cans at a stations undock point to keep people from aligning and warping seems pretty exploitative to me.
I didn't start the topic, and I am perfectly in my right to state my opinion of the Privateers in a Privateers thread. If you don't like it, don't read it. I couldn't care less what you think of me, but if you think I talk for my corporation or my alliance you are foolish. These are my opinions, and mine alone.
Tonight's the night the world begins again... |
Domalais
Equilibrium LLC
United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.03.02 15:04:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Phoenicia
If an alliance is unable to handle the likes of Privateer Alliance, then trust me, they're unable to handle 0.0 space. It's not a matter of the individual not being ready, it's a matter of the alliance as a whole. And it's not a "player with years of experience telling what you can or cannot do", it's stating a fact.
I respectfully disagree. Empire war has very little in common with anything that happens in 0.0 - except NPC 0.0 space.
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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 15:25:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Hellaciouss
All in all, 99.87% of Privateers aren't looking for the 'good' fights, only the easy ganks. Eventually they will be delt with by either CCP fixing the war dec system or players taking it into their own hands after the war.
When did that survey come out? I did not fill out anything that had:
1. Do you like easy ganks? (yes/no)
2. Do you station hug? (yes/no)
I find it unlikly that the majority of PvPers in the 0.0 Alliances will come roaring back into Empire just to kick some Privateer hiney. I am always reading how the people out in 0.0 say that people in Empire have it way to easy. Besides how will you "take care" of the Privateers? They don't have stations or POS's to take over. They are all over Empire with no central location other then the hubs. If you interdict the hubs they will just move somewhere else.
I don't like IAC anyway so you have no worries when it comes to my future employment.
The above are my views. I thought of them all by myself. My corp and Alliance did not help me at all
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Boom goes the ship! Squish goes the pilot!
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babylonstew
Caldari
Caldari Scouting and Intel Group
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 15:31:00 -
[56]
matter of fact, i have stopped a number of very damn fast nano ships with a huggin
including some 14k/s crows, so please, dont make any more assumptions becos your really starting to look a bit silly now
just becos YOU cant do it, doesnt mean others cant
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*snip* please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo
CCp nerfed my sig and all i got was this crummy message ^^^
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babylonstew
Caldari
Caldari Scouting and Intel Group
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 15:31:00 -
[57]
matter of fact, i have stopped a number of very damn fast nano ships with a huggin
including some 14k/s crows, so please, dont make any more assumptions becos your really starting to look a bit silly now
just becos YOU cant do it, doesnt mean others cant
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*snip* please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo
CCp nerfed my sig and all i got was this crummy message ^^^
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Jarling Fang
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 15:45:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Natalia Trade
What I love about life is the people that are willing to help you out, and what I hate about life is the people that are so willing to pop you, trick you, scam you, or cheat you out of what is yours by straight out theft.
Fixed.
What you are witnessing is not a weakness of game mechanics, but a weakness of human nature that is more clearly laid-bare than in any other MMORPG. That the whole idea: the whole aspect of watching out for people that try to take advantage of you, and banding together with others for mutual protection and success. Real life works the same way; as a "30 something adult" you should be well aware of that fact by now. And, the spaceships and laser beams are just a thinly veiled cover for what EvE really is: a game of social drama. That is what makes it so appealing to some (and not so appealing to others that are looking for a less-sophisticated form of escapism "fun")
So my message to anyone who has a problem with any new challege that arises in EvE, PA or otherwise, is: Adapt or Die
You may find the struggle to adapt and succeed more fun than the game you have been used to!
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Steven McWayne
Gallente
Decadence.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.02 15:50:00 -
[59]
mh Privateers drop nice loot.
Get you a noob gang with t1 cruisers/frigs and gank em.
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axxll
Amarr
Rogue Arrow Galactic Empire
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.03.02 15:54:00 -
[60]
Dear Op,
There is an in-game channel for those who wish to engage Privateers. May i suggest you do some research, join the in-game channel, and have fun looking for those who are annoying you.
axxll
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
The Keep
THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.03.02 16:24:00 -
[61]
THE BIGGEST WAR IN EVE'S HISTORY IS GOING ON AND ALL YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IS SOME 2 BIT PIRATES?
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Illyria Ambri
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.02 16:54:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Illyria Ambri on 02/03/2007 16:51:13
Edit-
*bleh such a nice post and I forgot I got no alliance/corp tag.. ma bad*
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This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek
Happiness is a warm railgun, Love is a stocked missle launcher. Sexual extacy is watching that NME Battleship go boom.
"Will i |
Illyria Ambri
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.02 16:54:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Illyria Ambri on 02/03/2007 16:51:13
Edit-
*bleh such a nice post and I forgot I got no alliance/corp tag.. ma bad*
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This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek
Happiness is a warm railgun, Love is a stocked missle launcher. Sexual extacy is watching that NME Battleship go boom.
"Will i |
Tovran
Kinda'Shujaa
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.02 18:54:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Tovran on 02/03/2007 18:50:46
I was highly amused when we got war decced by Privateers, it is fun to know targets can be through every gate. Something we very much took advantage of.
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Turin Shroud
Gallente
Fermentation Process
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Posted - 2007.03.02 18:56:00 -
[65]
privateers ftw, now only if they would accept my corps app :(
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Boliknar
The Shadow Order
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 19:02:00 -
[66]
Originally by: babylonstew
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Originally by: Ritchler
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Lot's Of Hate
Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance
Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of ****
quote]
if only ccp released like say a recon cruiser with i dunno, web bonuses and stuff be awsome to combat nano ships
o wait a minute
and whats with this jita crap?
find a kill mail with me on it from jita in the last 6 months, i dare you
i specifically DONT go anywhere near jita, unless its to shop.
and in case you spot the kills from ours, be advised, all those kills were when certain corps tried to either bait us and it bit them in the arse, or we baited them.
so knock the jita crap off will you, not everyone shoots targets there, let alone even goes near the damn place
I cannot believe you just tried to say that nanos arent a problem cause one ship can web at extended ranges. Well first of all webs dont drop you to zero instantly so your inertia will take you right out of even the longest ranges. The fact you even tried to make such a blatantly incorrect and illogical arguement pretty much taints anything else you may say.
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Xori Ruscuv
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.02 19:07:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 02/03/2007 19:04:55
Originally by: The Dokter
Are you giving a description about your corp? The docking part if you can't win, the station/pos huging, uber blobbing? Doesn't everybody do that at some time?
Yes. YES. Anyone who has involved themselves in PVP of any kind and can't admit that they've done it at some point or another is a moron.
To the OP: Go play WOW.
To the PA: Good job. Keep ****ing them off.
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Femme Fatal
Going Limp
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Posted - 2007.03.02 19:11:00 -
[68]
Where would the fun of total saftey be? :D
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Femme Fatal
Going Limp
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Posted - 2007.03.02 19:11:00 -
[69]
Where would the fun of total saftey be? :D
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Gar Ddhen
Gallente
The AbGenesis Foundation
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Posted - 2007.03.02 19:25:00 -
[70]
I thought I would take the time to point out a few things:
1) 0.0 Alliance pilots set up a bubble camp its legitimate tactics, if PA set up a gate camp, its cowardice
2) 0.0 Pilots gank a few haulers in 0.0 its disruption of enemy supplies, if PA do it its cowardice
3) If 0.0 pilots use nanoships its fine as they serve a purpose, if PA use them they are cowards and exploiting game mechanics
4) If a station camp is set up in 0.0 its locking your enemy into place, if PA do it its griefing
5) If 0.0 pilots enter station in order to decline engagement its tactics, if PA do it its cowardice
Shall I continue to point out the hypocrisy? Or have you got the picture yet?
If you dont like them, avoid them, or kill them. To be frank though many of the so called elite PvP pilots in 0.0 use exactly the same tactics and tricks as PA pilots do in Empire. The difference is, because 0.0 pilots are all ultra elite and real PvP'ers they are real tactics, because PA have taken the supposedly soft option its griefing, cowardice and general ganking.
Go figure.
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Gar Ddhen
Gallente
The AbGenesis Foundation
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Posted - 2007.03.02 19:25:00 -
[71]
I thought I would take the time to point out a few things:
1) 0.0 Alliance pilots set up a bubble camp its legitimate tactics, if PA set up a gate camp, its cowardice
2) 0.0 Pilots gank a few haulers in 0.0 its disruption of enemy supplies, if PA do it its cowardice
3) If 0.0 pilots use nanoships its fine as they serve a purpose, if PA use them they are cowards and exploiting game mechanics
4) If a station camp is set up in 0.0 its locking your enemy into place, if PA do it its griefing
5) If 0.0 pilots enter station in order to decline engagement its tactics, if PA do it its cowardice
Shall I continue to point out the hypocrisy? Or have you got the picture yet?
If you dont like them, avoid them, or kill them. To be frank though many of the so called elite PvP pilots in 0.0 use exactly the same tactics and tricks as PA pilots do in Empire. The difference is, because 0.0 pilots are all ultra elite and real PvP'ers they are real tactics, because PA have taken the supposedly soft option its griefing, cowardice and general ganking.
Go figure.
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Sargonius
Minmatar
Legion Du Lys
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.02 19:28:00 -
[72]
Empire Alts FTW !
Empire is evil!
0.0 is more secure no kidding!
Exploits s bad but true |
Sargonius
Minmatar
Legion Du Lys
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.02 19:28:00 -
[73]
Empire Alts FTW !
Empire is evil!
0.0 is more secure no kidding!
Exploits s bad but true |
easei
Caldari
Energy.
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Posted - 2007.03.02 19:34:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Natalia Trade
Although I have been playing a few months and have quite a few skills, I am in no way ready for PVP, I can fit and I do use most all t2 items, I have some real good combat skills, but I am no where close to people that have 6 months or more on me in skill training time. Although I know I am not ready to fight yet by meself, it is ultimately up to me when I get ready to go and fight, not some jugghead who thinks I am a carebear for not wanting to go to 0.0 and fight until I am ready. Call me a Carebear, n00b, whiner, whatever, point blank and simple my character is no where near ready to go and duke it out yet, let alone fight off these "High Sec Pirates" (Privateer Alliance)
The best advise anyone can give you is to try things before posting opinions on the forums. So follow these 2 steps.
1. "TRY" pvp out (tech 1 ship/parts to start)
2. "TRY" 0.0 out and see if it's as hard as you seem "think" it is
I was in 0.0 pvping with less than 1/4 of the SP you have. This game is 90% player skills and 10% SP. Player skills you can gain much faster then SP.
It works much like:
lose a firgate lesson learned
lose a cruiser lesson learned
lose a battlecruiser lesson learned
lose a battleship lesson learned
If you notice a trend here it's that in the process of learning your going to die...a lot...and this happens to everyone....thus it's called a game.
If you sit there and say how your not ready then how long before you convince yourself you need a carrier/ dreadnaught to be in 0.0.
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MassonA
Caldari
coracao ardente
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 19:38:00 -
[75]
___________________________
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Wesley Baird
Ever Flow
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 19:38:00 -
[76]
The op really has two distinct points, 1) 0.0 living/PvP 2) Privateers. Let me address each:
1) I started playing Eve Dec 13, with literally no knowledge about the game, its mechanics, anything. None of my RL friends play it. I have been living in 0.0 since the 3rd day of my existence. I was literally mining in a Bantam in 0.0...deep in 0.0. Perhaps my complete lack of knowledge explains why the danger didn't bother me.
I have PvP'd since the beginning as well, you really don't need elite skills to be an effective part of a team. Can you get in a frig, scramble a target and damp them?! If so you can really contribute to the blob warefare of 0.0. Sure you won't be out there dealing huge DPS, but you can certainly contribute to a fleet.
2) Privateers make empire an interesting place, as an hardened 0.0 player being careful in empire is second nature, and doesnt really effect my personal playing style. I have seen some very good and skilled PvP players in the privateers who most certainly have a lot of 0.0 experience given their tactics. Other privateers are better at smack than at flying...in fact it seems that the better the player, the less the smack! Just like any 0.0 alliance to be honest.
IMHO the privateers play an important role in the world of Eve, I for one hope they don't let their War Dec with Frege lapse for too long...
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Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
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Posted - 2007.03.02 19:44:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Secondly, I have just one question, what exactly are you going to do when your vagas and sabres can no longer go 12km/s?
This is actually something not to blame Outbreak in favor. They do use such ships from time to time. Some members might even prefer them. But if you have a look at their killboard you can easily see, that they are not using those nano-setups exclusively. I had to fight them until they left the north. And i did face only one of them piloting a vaga ever. So it's a bit weird to treat them as if they were a huge nano-fleet. They are not.
@topic: Well, you gotta stuff with it. Privateers are lamers and they don't seem to bother too much about not being respected. If you see them using exploits, petition it. Don't go to forums and whine about it.
Originally by: Cipher7
Its like if the Imperial Star Destroyers flew past the X-Wing fighters and started flying circles around them, it would turn Star Wars into a slapstick comedy a-la Benny Hill instead |
Redpants
Gallente
Dead Eagle
North Star Confederation
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Posted - 2007.03.02 22:06:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Redpants on 02/03/2007 22:10:38
Why do you people keep thinking that CCP needs to constantly tweak game mechanics that have existed since the beginning? Are you foolish enough to think that CCP is that nearsighted? That they don't see down the road for every decision they make in this game for possible exploits and in game affects?
The only reason you're hearing about this alliance right now is because the ones being targeted are high sec dwellers. I bet that PA is not a record holder for most wars at one time and if they are so be it. If they had 100 war decs on low sec/0.0 alliances you wouldn't hear a peep on these forums about them.
So outside of PA, can somebody give a decent reason that CCP should limit wars? Better yet, can somebody give any justification why CONCORD would limit wars? Wars are CONCORD sactioned remember and this should have less to do with CCP out of game than the in game world.
This is a case where the squeaky wheel should not get the oil. There should not be war dec limits. If a corp or alliance can pay to wardec the entire galaxy then let them. The entire galaxy can fight back you know. Maybe you forgot how to activate your high slots and defend yourselves or (gasp) actually go on the offensive and fight back. And if you're alliance can't fight back then consider PA doing you a favor and getting you up to speed with PVP.
You're not playing EvE to PVP you say? Then you're missing the vital reality of the EvE universe from day 1 and you should go back to your safe nonPVP servers in your previous MMO.
So everybody crying about PA should quickly realize you're not safe anywhere in this game, 1.0 or not, wardec or not. No go off and enjoy this game, it's not WOW.
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"My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red." |
Garrett Smith
ARK-CORP
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 23:28:00 -
[79]
Hehehe, only Privateers I ever see are cowering in station. All ya gotta do is make a hauling alt which takes a couple hours and laugh as u go by them w/ your 100mill load of mins.
Yee, im da Gman, word. |
Gift
Amarr
Loot
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.02 23:44:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Gift on 02/03/2007 23:40:31
Originally by: Garrett Smith
Hehehe, only Privateers I ever see are cowering in station. All ya gotta do is make a hauling alt which takes a couple hours and laugh as u go by them w/ your 100mill load of mins.
Your problem is most likely you log off the second you hear of a PA fleet near by & are only brave enough to stay logged in if you know the PA pilots are docked. Ain't that the 0.0 way?
Pirates of Eve, Join channel "Pirate" Today!
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Hellaciouss
Genco
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.02 23:46:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Redpants
Edited by: Redpants on 02/03/2007 22:10:38
Why do you people keep thinking that CCP needs to constantly tweak game mechanics that have existed since the beginning? Are you foolish enough to think that CCP is that nearsighted? That they don't see down the road for every decision they make in this game for possible exploits and in game affects?
Yah, they sure looked pretty far down the road when they tweaked the nano's/istabs.
The war dec system will eventually be tweaked, I'm sure of it.
Tonight's the night the world begins again... |
Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2007.03.03 00:43:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 03/03/2007 00:43:20
Originally by: Hellaciouss
Yah, they sure looked pretty far down the road when they tweaked the nano's/istabs.
The war dec system will eventually be tweaked, I'm sure of it.
Thats todays alliance warfare ... wars are won on the forums.
If you cannot cope with something, its surely unbalanced, lame and an exploit that CCP will fix soon.
Warriors got out of fashion during the US Civil War, and now the guys from the logistic department got outclassed by the lobbyist ... eve <=> RL ....
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pershphanie
The Ancient Race
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Posted - 2007.03.03 04:13:00 -
[83]
If you think the privateer's is a joke then the laugh is going to be on you in the end. They seem to have a very good system and a bright future. Wouldn't surprise me if CCP nerfed them though. |
Sextus Licinius
Caldari
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.03 05:03:00 -
[84]
Privateers are not a joke you troll, i like playing EVE with them. 
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man" |
Camar
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.03.03 05:21:00 -
[85]
Only got one thing to say about Privateer Alliance and that is... GO!
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Evenfall Phoenix
Drones of Annihilation
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.03 05:33:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Natalia Trade
Stuff
Well I think the Amarr Trading Company Inc. is a joke. So there.
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Mattduk
Gallente
Universal Army
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Posted - 2007.03.03 11:22:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Cown
haha
Now that's the sort of Nonsense you have to put up with when dealing with the PA.
I've actually seen these guys (PA) pirating in low sec in The Forge, even with the countless war targets they have, they still pirate in low sec.
It's a pity really, because when the alliance was formed we were fed some rubbish about them wanting to keep the 0.0 alliances in 0.0 and out of empire. So they formed gangs to attack these people who had 'claimed' their own space and stop them coming back to empire. It sounded like a good argument, but over the months the alliance has been diluted with corps that just want to grief, and don't seem to stick with the publicly announced ethos of PA.
Pity.
Kind regards
Mattduk
P.S. Expect intense flamage from this guy, he hates me with a passion.
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INZi
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.03.03 11:29:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Mattduk
Originally by: Cown
haha
Now that's the sort of Nonsense you have to put up with when dealing with the PA.
I've actually seen these guys (PA) pirating in low sec in The Forge, even with the countless war targets they have, they still pirate in low sec.
omg, are you seriouse? do they still pirate in low-sec even thou they've got wartargets everywhere?
the shame
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boo3916
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.03.03 11:34:00 -
[89]
ffs stop whinging and whining about privateers.
they just war decced us again a few days ago, what did we do, we went hunting them and killed absolutly loads of em in empire.
so stop whining, get organised and fight them back or go and hide and play another game.
me personally i like the war gives me more targets to shoot at which is a good thing
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Natalia Trade
Amarr Trading Company Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.03 11:47:00 -
[90]
I agree Amarr Trading Company Inc. is a joke.
Apparantly some of you in your years of education have failed to grasp the english language, I never said that I had not been to 0.0, I never said that I had not engaged in any PVP, I never said I was a solo player, I have been to 0.0, I have PVP'd, and I daily play with my corpmates and friends.
I dont think 0.0 is that hot, for my skills I cant run Cosmos missions that well with my friends without having to warp out, even with my Fully fitted t2 tier 2 Battlecruiser, I have PVP'd and I know I need more skill training to make my weapons hit harder and do more damage, I am not afraid to lose a ship, 5 ships or 10 ships, it happens and it is no big deal, easily replaced.
What I am saying is that it is cheap for the Privateer Alliance to sit in 1.0 and grief people, if they want to grief go to 0.0 and grief people, instead of helping Goon, D2, and RA clear out the cancer of BoD and LV they are griefing people in high sec who dont want to play the PVP game, what a noble gesture and good deed to help keep the game alive.
Where did it say when I signed up to pay to play EVE that I was required to PVP, and move to low sec? What if my friends and I like to PVE, mine, invent, and scan out hidden complexes for our fun? Why must we conform to what you think EVE is? Whay cant we make EVE what we want EVE to be? Where is this written that I must play the game your way?
If you want to war, war, if you want to engage in the biggest aventure in low sec do so, if you want to PVP have at it, but dont act like the high sec bully and then say your not, dont compare real PVP players to Pirateteers who exploit the war dec mechanic, if I pettitioned every person that placed a can 0km away from the undock point in Amarr CCP would be reading the petitions this time next year. Every time I undock I bounce around for 5 minutes befor I can get free, if I dont have to dock first and try it again.
So I have been to 0.0 with lots of my friends, ran the cosmos missions, mined the bistot and arknor, ratted the belts, and engaged in PVP, but I enjoy low sec 0.2-0.4 and empire 0.5-0.7 more than I enjoy 0.0, I have lots of friends both in my corp and not in my corp, but I have to say without skills and support skills your character is not worth much the first 1-2 months.
So you people need to read and comprehend a post before you start your replies, and then have an open mind and clear out the cobwebs every now and again.
P.S. I would be willing to go and help in the big EVE war on the Goon side, provided you guys replace the ships I lose, but who do I contact ?
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Natalia Trade
Amarr Trading Company Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.03 11:56:00 -
[91]
And another note, I have not been war decced by them, ganked by them, nor has any of my friends, I am just making a statement on what I have whitnessed. They have not bothered me, and they wont ever bother me even if they dec me, I am sure my friends will be more than happy to dec them back and wipe Amarr space with them. The 0.1 space they live and play in is kind of lean on hostlie targets, there lucky to see one a month, and plus it is only about a dozen jumps away, so it isnt that far for them to travel. |
The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.15 20:34:00 -
[92]
You know this thread was the one that got us whacked imo, I bumped to remind you all that we are back in black and recruiting contracts and pilots again. You did not kill us like you thought you did. You forgot to drive a stake in our heart, the darkness is on the rise once more.
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nickycakes
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.15 20:35:00 -
[93]
Originally by: The Hooch
You know this thread was the one that got us whacked imo, I bumped to remind you all that we are back in black and recruiting contracts and pilots again. You did not kill us like you thought you did. You forgot to drive a stake in our heart, the darkness is on the rise once more.
Back or not, you're still the biggest joke to ever hit eve. I don't see this changing....ever.
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The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.15 20:38:00 -
[94]
Edited by: The Hooch on 15/07/2007 20:38:32
Originally by: nickycakes
Originally by: The Hooch
You know this thread was the one that got us whacked imo, I bumped to remind you all that we are back in black and recruiting contracts and pilots again. You did not kill us like you thought you did. You forgot to drive a stake in our heart, the darkness is on the rise once more.
Back or not, you're still the biggest joke to ever hit eve. I don't see this changing....ever.
And my thoughts on Band of BooBs is well know too, so how is you war in the east going?
Joke or not what we do pays our bills and we keep on going, just like BoB, only we are honest about what we are...
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Mang0o
Caldari
horizons
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.15 20:47:00 -
[95]
I think you should make a book about your life, and try to sell it on ebay
I love you Mang0o, take a guess why -Eris |
The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.15 21:08:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Mang0o
I think you should make a book about your life, and try to sell it on ebay
How about a short story? Its about a Goon hauler that got bagged right before the war ended with a little over 230 million worth of assets that did not go boom, if all the loot had made it, it would have been closer to 600 million. It has drama and a happy ending.
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Cassin Bott
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Posted - 2007.07.15 21:33:00 -
[97]
*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Wachtmeister ([email protected])
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Darc Kaahar
I threw petrol on the fire and now I have no arms
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Posted - 2007.07.15 22:25:00 -
[98]
Originally by: nickycakes
Originally by: The Hooch
You know this thread was the one that got us whacked imo, I bumped to remind you all that we are back in black and recruiting contracts and pilots again. You did not kill us like you thought you did. You forgot to drive a stake in our heart, the darkness is on the rise once more.
Back or not, you're still the biggest joke to ever hit eve. I don't see this changing....ever.
You're so ******* awesome Nickycakes, I just want you to know that
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band0fdevs
Gallente
Band of Dev's
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Posted - 2007.07.15 22:29:00 -
[99]
bad necro welcome back privs
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Ozstar
Naughty 40
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.15 22:40:00 -
[100]
privateers ftw
>
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.07.17 16:11:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Princess Jodi on 17/07/2007 16:11:07
Honestly, isn't PrivateRears dead yet? A more useless, carebear, noob-ganking bunch of greifers has never existed.
They exploited a faulty game mechanic as a business plan. When the loophole was closed, they whined worse than a mewing carebear kitten. Now they claim some sort of Uberness for their ability to shoot black-screened noobs in Jita.
PrivateRears is a blight on Eve, at best indulging a horde of 14-year old pre-pubescent pukes with Daddy's credit card. At worst, they ruin the experience of new players and cost Eve future good citizens.
I can't believe any serious Eve player would support the continued existence of such self-pleasuring scum. Die for the last time, PrivateRears!
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The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 16:18:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Edited by: Princess Jodi on 17/07/2007 16:11:07
Honestly, isn't PrivateRears dead yet? A more useless, carebear, noob-ganking bunch of greifers has never existed.
They exploited a faulty game mechanic as a business plan. When the loophole was closed, they whined worse than a mewing carebear kitten. Now they claim some sort of Uberness for their ability to shoot black-screened noobs in Jita.
PrivateRears is a blight on Eve, at best indulging a horde of 14-year old pre-pubescent pukes with Daddy's credit card. At worst, they ruin the experience of new players and cost Eve future good citizens.
I can't believe any serious Eve player would support the continued existence of such self-pleasuring scum. Die for the last time, PrivateRears!
Ahhh such love here, if you must know most of us are rather old gamers, let BoB have the teens we like crusty old folks that enjoy shooting at children. Yes even though we got nailed, we did not die!
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nickycakes owned
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Posted - 2007.07.17 16:53:00 -
[103]
Edited by: nickycakes owned on 17/07/2007 16:54:46
original post is same series as:
HLEP MY HAULER WAS GANKED WHILE AFK:ING THRU LOWSEC
HLEP MY HULK WAS GANKED WHEN MINING IN LOWSEC
also if this troubles you so much change to wow, i heard carebears like it lots
eve wouldnt lose anything
you are not different from macroers and do not bring anything into game, only cause lag to "real" players 
i never understood the point in being in privateers, do ppl with lousy pvp skills/lack of good 0.0 alliance end up there?
anyway most of them are as big threat as paperboys thrown magazine at most
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The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 16:59:00 -
[104]
Originally by: nickycakes owned
Edited by: nickycakes owned on 17/07/2007 16:54:46
original post is same series as:
HLEP MY HAULER WAS GANKED WHILE AFK:ING THRU LOWSEC
HLEP MY HULK WAS GANKED WHEN MINING IN LOWSEC
also if this troubles you so much change to wow, i heard carebears like it lots
eve wouldnt lose anything
you are not different from macroers and do not bring anything into game, only cause lag to "real" players
i never understood the point in being in privateers, do ppl with lousy pvp skills/lack of good 0.0 alliance end up there?
anyway most of them are as big threat as paperboys thrown magazine at most
http://www.battleclinic.com/
Arm yourself with facts...alt
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.17 17:00:00 -
[105]
@op
Calm down : Privs have wardecced IAC, Goons and us, nobody else.
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History is made by whinners
Originally by: DB Preacher
(...) Ignore what the coalition muppets are saying on their forums (...)
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.07.17 17:18:00 -
[106]
Ya know, Hooch, I decided to look up some of those 'facts' on Battleclinic. You're ranking 6000-ish and I'm ranking 8000-ish. So you got me beat in stats.
But...I am proudly about the most CareBear person you'll ever meet. I only PVP in the defense of my Alliance. I've lost a Carrier and a Freighter in the past. Yet I come very close to your rankings!
My kills are on Battleships mostly. Yours are on haulers and pods.
Since you proudly use your Battleclinic siggy, I must assume you consider their stats accurate. So please explain, kind Sir, how you represent the new uber-elite Eve player? Because while you claim to seek the thrill of PVP, you're being out-classed by some mewing Kitten who wouldn't camp a gate unless it was in self-defense.
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Dople ganger
Gallente
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.17 17:32:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Dople ganger on 17/07/2007 17:32:47
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
@op
Calm down : Privs have wardecced IAC, Goons and us, nobody else.
Oh no!!! I'll actually have to use an alt to go in Empire...
Oh wait I have a pirate sec rating...
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Flower Bear
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Posted - 2007.07.17 17:41:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Natalia Trade
0.0 Sucks in my opinion anyway, No missions to run to make ISK, Battleship spawns in the belts so no solo/buddy mining for a character of my skill and wallet Quote:
You lose credibility here. Where do Rattlesnakes come from I wonder? Caldari Navy Level II missions?
Is every spawn a BS spawn? I wonder how I ninja mined for my time as a newbie in EC-
And if you cant get basic facts about 0.0 correct what makes you think you are qualified to comment on it (how can you have an opinion about some place youve never lived?)
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Solid Wilko
Minmatar
InNova Tech Inc
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.07.17 17:42:00 -
[109]
The above is me, I just suck.
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The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 17:47:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Ya know, Hooch, I decided to look up some of those 'facts' on Battleclinic. You're ranking 6000-ish and I'm ranking 8000-ish. So you got me beat in stats.
But...I am proudly about the most CareBear person you'll ever meet. I only PVP in the defense of my Alliance. I've lost a Carrier and a Freighter in the past. Yet I come very close to your rankings!
My kills are on Battleships mostly. Yours are on haulers and pods.
Since you proudly use your Battleclinic siggy, I must assume you consider their stats accurate. So please explain, kind Sir, how you represent the new uber-elite Eve player? Because while you claim to seek the thrill of PVP, you're being out-classed by some mewing Kitten who wouldn't camp a gate unless it was in self-defense.
I make no such claims of being uber, honorable or nice and as a matter of fact I relish that I am not. Like you I did the "defend the cause" silliness, fought BoB and many like them. Hell I even think that a few BoB even respect me for never running from a fight with them, I used to fly down to Delve just to pick a fight. Won some, lost some (lost more than I won).
Then it occured to me, "whats the point?" just so I feel good about going broke and losing ships I worked hard to get?
What finally tore it for me was being left at a gate by what I thought were fleetmates and then being raped by the enemies while everyone else bailed and let the "tank" swing (we were not out gunned by the way). Then the light flooded in, "Eve is not a team effort, it is a live or die" kind of thing. You are the prey or you are the preditor plain and simple. I choose the latter.
Why just kill the ship when you can kill the pod as well, they are ****ed of at you anyway so just seal the deal, at least then they are gone and you can scoop the loot in silence.
You "good sir" can take the high road, I would now rather bottom feed where the water is deep and murky. If you think being a pirate is easy then you really don't know that it is not as good going as you think. In a twisted way I work for it, and they ain't all noobs, they can't fly the big fish I look for anyway.
So please feel good about yourself.
Cheers
Hooch
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zli
Caldari
Righteous Choirboys
Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.07.17 18:41:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Edited by: Princess Jodi on 17/07/2007 16:11:07
Honestly, isn't PrivateRears dead yet? A more useless, carebear, noob-ganking bunch of greifers has never existed.
They exploited a faulty game mechanic as a business plan. When the loophole was closed, they whined worse than a mewing carebear kitten. Now they claim some sort of Uberness for their ability to shoot black-screened noobs in Jita.
PrivateRears is a blight on Eve, at best indulging a horde of 14-year old pre-pubescent pukes with Daddy's credit card. At worst, they ruin the experience of new players and cost Eve future good citizens.
I can't believe any serious Eve player would support the continued existence of such self-pleasuring scum. Die for the last time, PrivateRears!
wow, you're a very angry little person...
gl privateers, go, go, go!
Member of HANKY |
Baaldor
Caldari
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.17 19:24:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Baaldor on 17/07/2007 19:25:36
To the OP.
You do not have enough experience to make a conclusion about 0.0 until you actually live down here for a while. Not visit..live.
The privakweers...hey I think they got it right. And I like the idea of making empire space a little shakey..gives the fat arse care bears something else to worry about or complain about.
And as far as too new to PvP..dude we have guys younger than you in the same profession as you, getting kills. Its actually kinda funny to listen to a care bear get a kill or involved in a fight...their voice jumps like 5 octaves.
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milinkoee
Bastage Incorporated
1 Shot 1 Kill
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Posted - 2007.07.17 19:37:00 -
[113]
Originally by: The Hooch
I make no such claims of being uber, honorable or nice and as a matter of fact I relish that I am not. Like you I did the "defend the cause" silliness, fought BoB and many like them. Hell I even think that a few BoB even respect me for never running from a fight with them, I used to fly down to Delve just to pick a fight. Won some, lost some (lost more than I won).
Then it occured to me, "whats the point?" just so I feel good about going broke and losing ships I worked hard to get?
What finally tore it for me was being left at a gate by what I thought were fleetmates and then being raped by the enemies while everyone else bailed and let the "tank" swing (we were not out gunned by the way). Then the light flooded in, "Eve is not a team effort, it is a live or die" kind of thing. You are the prey or you are the preditor plain and simple. I choose the latter.
Why just kill the ship when you can kill the pod as well, they are ****ed of at you anyway so just seal the deal, at least then they are gone and you can scoop the loot in silence.
You "good sir" can take the high road, I would now rather bottom feed where the water is deep and murky. If you think being a pirate is easy then you really don't know that it is not as good going as you think. In a twisted way I work for it, and they ain't all noobs, they can't fly the big fish I look for anyway.
<sniff>...Look Mother, our little carebear is all grown up.
Bastage, Inc.
Worst Pirates Ever!!! |
Seeing EyeDog
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Posted - 2007.07.17 19:39:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Natalia Trade
CCP if your going to let it continue, might as well get rid of "High Sec" alltogether and make it all low sec, because that is what the Privateer Alliance just did without low sec worries or consequenses to them.
to sum up the OP's post:
"Oh no, Privateers blew up alot of my ships. I've been scammed by people in this game. I've had my fill of all of these UNRIGHTEOUS ACTS, and I'm blaming it all on PA!"
or in my words..."waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaaaa"
Can i have your stuff?
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The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 20:11:00 -
[115]
Edited by: The Hooch on 17/07/2007 20:14:05
Edited by: The Hooch on 17/07/2007 20:12:31
Originally by: milinkoee
Originally by: The Hooch
I make no such claims of being uber, honorable or nice and as a matter of fact I relish that I am not. Like you I did the "defend the cause" silliness, fought BoB and many like them. Hell I even think that a few BoB even respect me for never running from a fight with them, I used to fly down to Delve just to pick a fight. Won some, lost some (lost more than I won).
Then it occured to me, "whats the point?" just so I feel good about going broke and losing ships I worked hard to get?
What finally tore it for me was being left at a gate by what I thought were fleetmates and then being raped by the enemies while everyone else bailed and let the "tank" swing (we were not out gunned by the way). Then the light flooded in, "Eve is not a team effort, it is a live or die" kind of thing. You are the prey or you are the preditor plain and simple. I choose the latter.
Why just kill the ship when you can kill the pod as well, they are ****ed of at you anyway so just seal the deal, at least then they are gone and you can scoop the loot in silence.
You "good sir" can take the high road, I would now rather bottom feed where the water is deep and murky. If you think being a pirate is easy then you really don't know that it is not as good going as you think. In a twisted way I work for it, and they ain't all noobs, they can't fly the big fish I look for anyway.
<sniff>...Look Mother, our little carebear is all grown up.
I dispute your "worst pirates ever" logo. we earned that title, give it up!
Yes, here is the beast that turned me to the dark ways...blame him and his bunch. Thanks Dad!
Please keep bashing guys, I am approving applications daily now...the more you ***** the bigger get.
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xRazoRx
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.07.17 20:17:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Natalia Trade
*First post*
They really are a joke
Why else would they cancel war with us before THE patch?
Death is only the beginning... |
Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 20:30:00 -
[117]
Isn't necroing a warnable offence on EVE-O? Lockable, at least.
IBTL: I barely cared when Privateers were in full swing. I care considerably less now.
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The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Isn't necroing a warnable offence on EVE-O? Lockable, at least.
IBTL: I barely cared when Privateers were in full swing. I care considerably less now.
Not really, this thread makes a point. Those that wanted a change got what they asked for and hoped we would be dead from it.
I am simply showing that what they really wanted was us dead and gone, but that did not work...we are still here and growing again.
Cheers
Hooch
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.17 20:43:00 -
[119]
Aww i thought Privateers already managed to get people whining but its an old post.
I'm sure it wont take long, go Privateers
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The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 20:46:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Aww i thought Privateers already managed to get people whining but its an old post.
I'm sure it wont take long, go Privateers
Thank you Joshua, I still hate BoB and their toadies but thanks for the plug!
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 20:50:00 -
[121]
Originally by: The Hooch
Originally by: Patch86
Isn't necroing a warnable offence on EVE-O? Lockable, at least.
IBTL: I barely cared when Privateers were in full swing. I care considerably less now.
Not really, this thread makes a point. Those that wanted a change got what they asked for and hoped we would be dead from it.
I am simply showing that what they really wanted was us dead and gone, but that did not work...we are still here and growing again.
Cheers
Hooch
No-one "wanted you dead". You're taking it far too personally.
People didn't think it was sensible that there was an easy and affordable way of essentially turning off CONCORD on demand, and wanted it fixed. If you guys weren't a strong enough organisation to survive an obvious and inevitable "bug" fix, that would have been your problem.
But apparently you were. Bully for you. Still don't care
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The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 20:57:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: The Hooch
Originally by: Patch86
Isn't necroing a warnable offence on EVE-O? Lockable, at least.
IBTL: I barely cared when Privateers were in full swing. I care considerably less now.
Not really, this thread makes a point. Those that wanted a change got what they asked for and hoped we would be dead from it.
I am simply showing that what they really wanted was us dead and gone, but that did not work...we are still here and growing again.
Cheers
Hooch
No-one "wanted you dead". You're taking it far too personally.
People didn't think it was sensible that there was an easy and affordable way of essentially turning off CONCORD on demand, and wanted it fixed. If you guys weren't a strong enough organisation to survive an obvious and inevitable "bug" fix, that would have been your problem.
But apparently you were. Bully for you. Still don't care
Thats good you don't care, because I am going to reach into my personal wallet and make sure you get the love you're asking for... this or next week.
Why yes I do take it personal in a game sense, it motivates me. Drop IAC a line and ask them how motivated I have been since they decided to get all upity and smacky in the forums.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 21:05:00 -
[123]
Originally by: The Hooch
Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: The Hooch
Originally by: Patch86
Isn't necroing a warnable offence on EVE-O? Lockable, at least.
IBTL: I barely cared when Privateers were in full swing. I care considerably less now.
Not really, this thread makes a point. Those that wanted a change got what they asked for and hoped we would be dead from it.
I am simply showing that what they really wanted was us dead and gone, but that did not work...we are still here and growing again.
Cheers
Hooch
No-one "wanted you dead". You're taking it far too personally.
People didn't think it was sensible that there was an easy and affordable way of essentially turning off CONCORD on demand, and wanted it fixed. If you guys weren't a strong enough organisation to survive an obvious and inevitable "bug" fix, that would have been your problem.
But apparently you were. Bully for you. Still don't care
Thats good you don't care, because I am going to reach into my personal wallet and make sure you get the love you're asking for... this or next week.
Why yes I do take it personal in a game sense, it motivates me. Drop IAC a line and ask them how motivated I have been since they decided to get all upity and smacky in the forums.
This is CAOD: everybody smacks everybody else. It's like a sport for some people, you know. ISD should introduce a points system.
Personally, I always quite admired Privateers, first time round. Not for the piracy thing (plenty of pirates around), but for the really clever scheme. Because it was clever; bearing in mind that the game mechanics in that area hadn't changed since EVE's launch, it is notable that Privateers were the first and only people to invent a scheme like that.
But what does bug me is ex-Privateers who want and rave about how "the care bears got Privs nerfed". I mean honestly, anyone who didn't see CCP's fix coming from the outset must completely lack imagination. It was just a clever way of getting around a game mechanic they put in; of course they're going to stop you going round it. If they cared about the whines, I'm sure they would have changed it months earlier.
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Snapp
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.07.17 21:30:00 -
[124]
Originally by: The Hooch
Edited by: The Hooch on 17/07/2007 20:15:16
Edited by: The Hooch on 17/07/2007 20:14:05
Edited by: The Hooch on 17/07/2007 20:12:31
Originally by: milinkoee
Originally by: The Hooch
I make no such claims of being uber, honorable or nice and as a matter of fact I relish that I am not. Like you I did the "defend the cause" silliness, fought BoB and many like them. Hell I even think that a few BoB even respect me for never running from a fight with them, I used to fly down to Delve just to pick a fight. Won some, lost some (lost more than I won).
Then it occured to me, "whats the point?" just so I feel good about going broke and losing ships I worked hard to get?
What finally tore it for me was being left at a gate by what I thought were fleetmates and then being raped by the enemies while everyone else bailed and let the "tank" swing (we were not out gunned by the way). Then the light flooded in, "Eve is not a team effort, it is a live or die" kind of thing. You are the prey or you are the preditor plain and simple. I choose the latter.
Why just kill the ship when you can kill the pod as well, they are ****ed of at you anyway so just seal the deal, at least then they are gone and you can scoop the loot in silence.
You "good sir" can take the high road, I would now rather bottom feed where the water is deep and murky. If you think being a pirate is easy then you really don't know that it is not as good going as you think. In a twisted way I work for it, and they ain't all noobs, they can't fly the big fish I look for anyway.
<sniff>...Look Mother, our little carebear is all grown up.
I dispute your "worst pirates ever" logo. we earned that title, give it up!
Yes, here is the beast that turned me to the dark ways...blame him and his bunch. Thanks Dad!
Please keep bashing guys, I am approving applications daily now...the more you ***** and squeal the bigger we get.
good to see my wittle cubs running amuk still
I so came to party!
Founding member of the "Gonna Gank a CareBear Alliance"
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darkfuntime
Minmatar
Omega Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.07.17 21:34:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
As for Privateers, meh...they do their thing...who cares
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You know i like having the privateers around,someone to shoot in empire.So i have to agree with Flinx here.As for 0.0 sucks,man i started in 0.0 and i didnt even know there was missions for three months i played eve and i did fine.Flinx when you coming back up north anyway?
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The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 21:40:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Snapp
Originally by: The Hooch
Edited by: The Hooch on 17/07/2007 20:15:16
Edited by: The Hooch on 17/07/2007 20:14:05
Edited by: The Hooch on 17/07/2007 20:12:31
Originally by: milinkoee
Originally by: The Hooch
I make no such claims of being uber, honorable or nice and as a matter of fact I relish that I am not. Like you I did the "defend the cause" silliness, fought BoB and many like them. Hell I even think that a few BoB even respect me for never running from a fight with them, I used to fly down to Delve just to pick a fight. Won some, lost some (lost more than I won).
Then it occured to me, "whats the point?" just so I feel good about going broke and losing ships I worked hard to get?
What finally tore it for me was being left at a gate by what I thought were fleetmates and then being raped by the enemies while everyone else bailed and let the "tank" swing (we were not out gunned by the way). Then the light flooded in, "Eve is not a team effort, it is a live or die" kind of thing. You are the prey or you are the preditor plain and simple. I choose the latter.
Why just kill the ship when you can kill the pod as well, they are ****ed of at you anyway so just seal the deal, at least then they are gone and you can scoop the loot in silence.
You "good sir" can take the high road, I would now rather bottom feed where the water is deep and murky. If you think being a pirate is easy then you really don't know that it is not as good going as you think. In a twisted way I work for it, and they ain't all noobs, they can't fly the big fish I look for anyway.
<sniff>...Look Mother, our little carebear is all grown up.
I dispute your "worst pirates ever" logo. we earned that title, give it up!
Yes, here is the beast that turned me to the dark ways...blame him and his bunch. Thanks Dad!
Please keep bashing guys, I am approving applications daily now...the more you ***** and squeal the bigger we get.
good to see my wittle cubs running amuk still
MOM! Good to hear from you! I hope you're proud of what I have become! I am a forum ***** and a noob killer now.
<sniff> though I do sometimes miss the old gang.
Hooch
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.17 23:03:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Dople ganger
Edited by: Dople ganger on 17/07/2007 17:32:47
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
@op
Calm down : Privs have wardecced IAC, Goons and us, nobody else.
Oh no!!! I'll actually have to use an alt to go in Empire...
Oh wait I have a pirate sec rating...
Oh noes not me...
Wait, I never undock in Empire :)
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History is made by whinners
Originally by: DB Preacher
(...) Ignore what the coalition muppets are saying on their forums (...)
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Helplessandlost
Minmatar
Convergent
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.07.17 23:41:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Edited by: Princess Jodi on 17/07/2007 16:11:07
Honestly, isn't PrivateRears dead yet? A more useless, carebear, noob-ganking bunch of greifers has never existed.
They exploited a faulty game mechanic as a business plan. When the loophole was closed, they whined worse than a mewing carebear kitten. Now they claim some sort of Uberness for their ability to shoot black-screened noobs in Jita.
PrivateRears is a blight on Eve, at best indulging a horde of 14-year old pre-pubescent pukes with Daddy's credit card. At worst, they ruin the experience of new players and cost Eve future good citizens.
I can't believe any serious Eve player would support the continued existence of such self-pleasuring scum. Die for the last time, PrivateRears!
/me waves to PJ - How's it goin M8?
Oh Yea posting in an epic thread...
"Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive!"
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.07.18 06:36:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Baaldor
Edited by: Baaldor on 17/07/2007 19:25:36
To the OP.
You do not have enough experience to make a conclusion about 0.0 until you actually live down here for a while. Not visit..live.
The privakweers...hey I think they got it right. And I like the idea of making empire space a little shakey..gives the fat arse care bears something else to worry about or complain about.
And as far as too new to PvP..dude we have guys younger than you in the same profession as you, getting kills. Its actually kinda funny to listen to a care bear get a kill or involved in a fight...their voice jumps like 5 octaves.
Personally when I get a kill only dolphins can hear me. The only thing TS members can hear is my heart beating louder than should be advisable. I hope this goes down with experience.
Natalia Trade û There are certain things to bear in mind when playing Eve. First and foremost it's a game. PvP is expensive. New characters can enjoy PvP in a gang. I said gang, not blob. 0.0 isn't that bad. It's a lot better than 2004 for sure. Faction agents can be found at gates so standings can be increased, although not necessarily for the faction you want. Such is life. Another important thing to remember is that Eve is a team game. You could theoretically build the components for an outpost or even a battleship solo (a big range I know go with me, ) but it requires lots of time spent doing things on your own when enjoying Eve with other people gets the work done exponentially quicker.
Eve is like the city you live in. There are nice parts, affluent parts and rough as sandpaper parts. Occasionally people get mugged in well to do areas as well. If you get ganked in empire it means you weren't paying attention to local. If you knew your corp was at war, you should be paying attention. You should be teaming up and travelling in a group when possible. Eve is NOT nice to the careless or drunk player. I should know. Eve is downright impossible for the stupidly careless and stupid player, don't worry about those because they play something else for most of the time.
Other people have said you don't need a lot of SP to get into 0.0 and enjoy yourself. It's true. It comes down to the corp/alliance you're a part of and how well they work together. Few alliances would begrudge helping a new player out with a spawn or three.
If you show willingness to learn and listen, you can learn a lot. If you're stuck in a mindset or negativity no one will want to listen to it for more than a minute before putting you down as a whiner who needs their hand held every time they're on line.
Skill points does make the person. If you can rat and mine in .5 systems you can enjoy 0.0 with a little help and advice about what to fit and what skills to train up as a new priority.
As for Hooch, whatever it is you do or the reasons you're doing them is how you play the game. Meh, there's ways around the Privateer war decs and you don't need a lot of imagination either. I don't hate you for your methods though it's a chance for some corps/characters to get pvp experience without the 0.0 political crud. So I hope everyone has fun.
Another wall of text post :(
Life is about memories the more the better.
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