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Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.03.02 16:24:00 - [61] THE BIGGEST WAR IN EVE'S HISTORY IS GOING ON AND ALL YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IS SOME 2 BIT PIRATES?
Illyria Ambri Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.02 16:54:00 - [62] Edited by: Illyria Ambri on 02/03/2007 16:51:13 Edit- bleh such a nice post and I forgot I got no alliance/corp tag.. ma bad ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Happiness is a warm railgun, Love is a stocked missle launcher. Sexual extacy is watching that NME Battleship go boom. "Will i
Illyria Ambri Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.02 16:54:00 - [63] Edited by: Illyria Ambri on 02/03/2007 16:51:13 Edit- bleh such a nice post and I forgot I got no alliance/corp tag.. ma bad ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Happiness is a warm railgun, Love is a stocked missle launcher. Sexual extacy is watching that NME Battleship go boom. "Will i
Tovran Kinda'Shujaa Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.02 18:54:00 - [64] Edited by: Tovran on 02/03/2007 18:50:46 I was highly amused when we got war decced by Privateers, it is fun to know targets can be through every gate. Something we very much took advantage of.
Turin Shroud Gallente Fermentation Process	Posted - 2007.03.02 18:56:00 - [65] privateers ftw, now only if they would accept my corps app :(
Boliknar The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:02:00 - [66] Originally by: babylonstew Originally by: Hellaciouss Originally by: Ritchler Originally by: Hellaciouss Lot's Of Hate Tp be honest, i imagine u have been ganked or fought maybe ten of them and formed a opinion on the whole alliance Please don't post if u have nothing to say that isn full of **** quote] if only ccp released like say a recon cruiser with i dunno, web bonuses and stuff be awsome to combat nano ships o wait a minute and whats with this jita crap? find a kill mail with me on it from jita in the last 6 months, i dare you i specifically DONT go anywhere near jita, unless its to shop. and in case you spot the kills from ours, be advised, all those kills were when certain corps tried to either bait us and it bit them in the arse, or we baited them. so knock the jita crap off will you, not everyone shoots targets there, let alone even goes near the damn place I cannot believe you just tried to say that nanos arent a problem cause one ship can web at extended ranges. Well first of all webs dont drop you to zero instantly so your inertia will take you right out of even the longest ranges. The fact you even tried to make such a blatantly incorrect and illogical arguement pretty much taints anything else you may say.
Xori Ruscuv SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:07:00 - [67] Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 02/03/2007 19:04:55 Originally by: The Dokter Are you giving a description about your corp? The docking part if you can't win, the station/pos huging, uber blobbing? Doesn't everybody do that at some time? Yes. YES. Anyone who has involved themselves in PVP of any kind and can't admit that they've done it at some point or another is a moron. To the OP: Go play WOW. To the PA: Good job. Keep ****ing them off.
Femme Fatal Going Limp	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:11:00 - [68] Where would the fun of total saftey be? :D
Femme Fatal Going Limp	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:11:00 - [69] Where would the fun of total saftey be? :D
Gar Ddhen Gallente The AbGenesis Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:25:00 - [70] I thought I would take the time to point out a few things: 1) 0.0 Alliance pilots set up a bubble camp its legitimate tactics, if PA set up a gate camp, its cowardice 2) 0.0 Pilots gank a few haulers in 0.0 its disruption of enemy supplies, if PA do it its cowardice 3) If 0.0 pilots use nanoships its fine as they serve a purpose, if PA use them they are cowards and exploiting game mechanics 4) If a station camp is set up in 0.0 its locking your enemy into place, if PA do it its griefing 5) If 0.0 pilots enter station in order to decline engagement its tactics, if PA do it its cowardice Shall I continue to point out the hypocrisy? Or have you got the picture yet? If you dont like them, avoid them, or kill them. To be frank though many of the so called elite PvP pilots in 0.0 use exactly the same tactics and tricks as PA pilots do in Empire. The difference is, because 0.0 pilots are all ultra elite and real PvP'ers they are real tactics, because PA have taken the supposedly soft option its griefing, cowardice and general ganking. Go figure.
Gar Ddhen Gallente The AbGenesis Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:25:00 - [71] I thought I would take the time to point out a few things: 1) 0.0 Alliance pilots set up a bubble camp its legitimate tactics, if PA set up a gate camp, its cowardice 2) 0.0 Pilots gank a few haulers in 0.0 its disruption of enemy supplies, if PA do it its cowardice 3) If 0.0 pilots use nanoships its fine as they serve a purpose, if PA use them they are cowards and exploiting game mechanics 4) If a station camp is set up in 0.0 its locking your enemy into place, if PA do it its griefing 5) If 0.0 pilots enter station in order to decline engagement its tactics, if PA do it its cowardice Shall I continue to point out the hypocrisy? Or have you got the picture yet? If you dont like them, avoid them, or kill them. To be frank though many of the so called elite PvP pilots in 0.0 use exactly the same tactics and tricks as PA pilots do in Empire. The difference is, because 0.0 pilots are all ultra elite and real PvP'ers they are real tactics, because PA have taken the supposedly soft option its griefing, cowardice and general ganking. Go figure.
Sargonius Minmatar Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:28:00 - [72] Empire Alts FTW ! Empire is evil! 0.0 is more secure no kidding! Exploits s bad but true
Sargonius Minmatar Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:28:00 - [73] Empire Alts FTW ! Empire is evil! 0.0 is more secure no kidding! Exploits s bad but true
easei Caldari Energy.	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:34:00 - [74] Originally by: Natalia Trade Although I have been playing a few months and have quite a few skills, I am in no way ready for PVP, I can fit and I do use most all t2 items, I have some real good combat skills, but I am no where close to people that have 6 months or more on me in skill training time. Although I know I am not ready to fight yet by meself, it is ultimately up to me when I get ready to go and fight, not some jugghead who thinks I am a carebear for not wanting to go to 0.0 and fight until I am ready. Call me a Carebear, n00b, whiner, whatever, point blank and simple my character is no where near ready to go and duke it out yet, let alone fight off these "High Sec Pirates" (Privateer Alliance) The best advise anyone can give you is to try things before posting opinions on the forums. So follow these 2 steps. 1. "TRY" pvp out (tech 1 ship/parts to start) 2. "TRY" 0.0 out and see if it's as hard as you seem "think" it is I was in 0.0 pvping with less than 1/4 of the SP you have. This game is 90% player skills and 10% SP. Player skills you can gain much faster then SP. It works much like: lose a firgate lesson learned lose a cruiser lesson learned lose a battlecruiser lesson learned lose a battleship lesson learned If you notice a trend here it's that in the process of learning your going to die...a lot...and this happens to everyone....thus it's called a game. If you sit there and say how your not ready then how long before you convince yourself you need a carrier/ dreadnaught to be in 0.0.
MassonA Caldari coracao ardente Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:38:00 - [75] ___________________________
Wesley Baird Ever Flow FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:38:00 - [76] The op really has two distinct points, 1) 0.0 living/PvP 2) Privateers. Let me address each: 1) I started playing Eve Dec 13, with literally no knowledge about the game, its mechanics, anything. None of my RL friends play it. I have been living in 0.0 since the 3rd day of my existence. I was literally mining in a Bantam in 0.0...deep in 0.0. Perhaps my complete lack of knowledge explains why the danger didn't bother me. I have PvP'd since the beginning as well, you really don't need elite skills to be an effective part of a team. Can you get in a frig, scramble a target and damp them?! If so you can really contribute to the blob warefare of 0.0. Sure you won't be out there dealing huge DPS, but you can certainly contribute to a fleet. 2) Privateers make empire an interesting place, as an hardened 0.0 player being careful in empire is second nature, and doesnt really effect my personal playing style. I have seen some very good and skilled PvP players in the privateers who most certainly have a lot of 0.0 experience given their tactics. Other privateers are better at smack than at flying...in fact it seems that the better the player, the less the smack! Just like any 0.0 alliance to be honest. IMHO the privateers play an important role in the world of Eve, I for one hope they don't let their War Dec with Frege lapse for too long...
Djerin Obsidian Exploration Services	Posted - 2007.03.02 19:44:00 - [77] Originally by: Hellaciouss Secondly, I have just one question, what exactly are you going to do when your vagas and sabres can no longer go 12km/s? This is actually something not to blame Outbreak in favor. They do use such ships from time to time. Some members might even prefer them. But if you have a look at their killboard you can easily see, that they are not using those nano-setups exclusively. I had to fight them until they left the north. And i did face only one of them piloting a vaga ever. So it's a bit weird to treat them as if they were a huge nano-fleet. They are not. @topic: Well, you gotta stuff with it. Privateers are lamers and they don't seem to bother too much about not being respected. If you see them using exploits, petition it. Don't go to forums and whine about it. Originally by: Cipher7 Its like if the Imperial Star Destroyers flew past the X-Wing fighters and started flying circles around them, it would turn Star Wars into a slapstick comedy a-la Benny Hill instead
Redpants Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation	Posted - 2007.03.02 22:06:00 - [78] Edited by: Redpants on 02/03/2007 22:10:38 Why do you people keep thinking that CCP needs to constantly tweak game mechanics that have existed since the beginning? Are you foolish enough to think that CCP is that nearsighted? That they don't see down the road for every decision they make in this game for possible exploits and in game affects? The only reason you're hearing about this alliance right now is because the ones being targeted are high sec dwellers. I bet that PA is not a record holder for most wars at one time and if they are so be it. If they had 100 war decs on low sec/0.0 alliances you wouldn't hear a peep on these forums about them. So outside of PA, can somebody give a decent reason that CCP should limit wars? Better yet, can somebody give any justification why CONCORD would limit wars? Wars are CONCORD sactioned remember and this should have less to do with CCP out of game than the in game world. This is a case where the squeaky wheel should not get the oil. There should not be war dec limits. If a corp or alliance can pay to wardec the entire galaxy then let them. The entire galaxy can fight back you know. Maybe you forgot how to activate your high slots and defend yourselves or (gasp) actually go on the offensive and fight back. And if you're alliance can't fight back then consider PA doing you a favor and getting you up to speed with PVP. You're not playing EvE to PVP you say? Then you're missing the vital reality of the EvE universe from day 1 and you should go back to your safe nonPVP servers in your previous MMO. So everybody crying about PA should quickly realize you're not safe anywhere in this game, 1.0 or not, wardec or not. No go off and enjoy this game, it's not WOW. _____________________________________________________________________ "My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red."
Garrett Smith ARK-CORP FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 23:28:00 - [79] Hehehe, only Privateers I ever see are cowering in station. All ya gotta do is make a hauling alt which takes a couple hours and laugh as u go by them w/ your 100mill load of mins. Yee, im da Gman, word.
Gift Amarr Loot Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 23:44:00 - [80] Edited by: Gift on 02/03/2007 23:40:31 Originally by: Garrett Smith Hehehe, only Privateers I ever see are cowering in station. All ya gotta do is make a hauling alt which takes a couple hours and laugh as u go by them w/ your 100mill load of mins. Your problem is most likely you log off the second you hear of a PA fleet near by & are only brave enough to stay logged in if you know the PA pilots are docked. Ain't that the 0.0 way? Pirates of Eve, Join channel "Pirate" Today!
Hellaciouss Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.02 23:46:00 - [81] Originally by: Redpants Edited by: Redpants on 02/03/2007 22:10:38 Why do you people keep thinking that CCP needs to constantly tweak game mechanics that have existed since the beginning? Are you foolish enough to think that CCP is that nearsighted? That they don't see down the road for every decision they make in this game for possible exploits and in game affects? Yah, they sure looked pretty far down the road when they tweaked the nano's/istabs. The war dec system will eventually be tweaked, I'm sure of it. Tonight's the night the world begins again...
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2007.03.03 00:43:00 - [82] Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 03/03/2007 00:43:20 Originally by: Hellaciouss Yah, they sure looked pretty far down the road when they tweaked the nano's/istabs. The war dec system will eventually be tweaked, I'm sure of it. Thats todays alliance warfare ... wars are won on the forums. If you cannot cope with something, its surely unbalanced, lame and an exploit that CCP will fix soon. Warriors got out of fashion during the US Civil War, and now the guys from the logistic department got outclassed by the lobbyist ... eve <=> RL ....
pershphanie The Ancient Race	Posted - 2007.03.03 04:13:00 - [83] If you think the privateer's is a joke then the laugh is going to be on you in the end. They seem to have a very good system and a bright future. Wouldn't surprise me if CCP nerfed them though.
Sextus Licinius Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.03.03 05:03:00 - [84] Privateers are not a joke you troll, i like playing EVE with them. "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
Camar Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.03.03 05:21:00 - [85] Only got one thing to say about Privateer Alliance and that is... GO!
Evenfall Phoenix Drones of Annihilation GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.03 05:33:00 - [86] Originally by: Natalia Trade Stuff Well I think the Amarr Trading Company Inc. is a joke. So there.
Mattduk Gallente Universal Army	Posted - 2007.03.03 11:22:00 - [87] Originally by: Cown haha Now that's the sort of Nonsense you have to put up with when dealing with the PA. I've actually seen these guys (PA) pirating in low sec in The Forge, even with the countless war targets they have, they still pirate in low sec. It's a pity really, because when the alliance was formed we were fed some rubbish about them wanting to keep the 0.0 alliances in 0.0 and out of empire. So they formed gangs to attack these people who had 'claimed' their own space and stop them coming back to empire. It sounded like a good argument, but over the months the alliance has been diluted with corps that just want to grief, and don't seem to stick with the publicly announced ethos of PA. Pity. Kind regards Mattduk P.S. Expect intense flamage from this guy, he hates me with a passion.
INZi coracao ardente	Posted - 2007.03.03 11:29:00 - [88] Originally by: Mattduk Originally by: Cown haha Now that's the sort of Nonsense you have to put up with when dealing with the PA. I've actually seen these guys (PA) pirating in low sec in The Forge, even with the countless war targets they have, they still pirate in low sec. omg, are you seriouse? do they still pirate in low-sec even thou they've got wartargets everywhere? the shame
boo3916 D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.03.03 11:34:00 - [89] ffs stop whinging and whining about privateers. they just war decced us again a few days ago, what did we do, we went hunting them and killed absolutly loads of em in empire. so stop whining, get organised and fight them back or go and hide and play another game. me personally i like the war gives me more targets to shoot at which is a good thing
Natalia Trade Amarr Trading Company Inc	Posted - 2007.03.03 11:47:00 - [90] I agree Amarr Trading Company Inc. is a joke. Apparantly some of you in your years of education have failed to grasp the english language, I never said that I had not been to 0.0, I never said that I had not engaged in any PVP, I never said I was a solo player, I have been to 0.0, I have PVP'd, and I daily play with my corpmates and friends. I dont think 0.0 is that hot, for my skills I cant run Cosmos missions that well with my friends without having to warp out, even with my Fully fitted t2 tier 2 Battlecruiser, I have PVP'd and I know I need more skill training to make my weapons hit harder and do more damage, I am not afraid to lose a ship, 5 ships or 10 ships, it happens and it is no big deal, easily replaced. What I am saying is that it is cheap for the Privateer Alliance to sit in 1.0 and grief people, if they want to grief go to 0.0 and grief people, instead of helping Goon, D2, and RA clear out the cancer of BoD and LV they are griefing people in high sec who dont want to play the PVP game, what a noble gesture and good deed to help keep the game alive. Where did it say when I signed up to pay to play EVE that I was required to PVP, and move to low sec? What if my friends and I like to PVE, mine, invent, and scan out hidden complexes for our fun? Why must we conform to what you think EVE is? Whay cant we make EVE what we want EVE to be? Where is this written that I must play the game your way? If you want to war, war, if you want to engage in the biggest aventure in low sec do so, if you want to PVP have at it, but dont act like the high sec bully and then say your not, dont compare real PVP players to Pirateteers who exploit the war dec mechanic, if I pettitioned every person that placed a can 0km away from the undock point in Amarr CCP would be reading the petitions this time next year. Every time I undock I bounce around for 5 minutes befor I can get free, if I dont have to dock first and try it again. So I have been to 0.0 with lots of my friends, ran the cosmos missions, mined the bistot and arknor, ratted the belts, and engaged in PVP, but I enjoy low sec 0.2-0.4 and empire 0.5-0.7 more than I enjoy 0.0, I have lots of friends both in my corp and not in my corp, but I have to say without skills and support skills your character is not worth much the first 1-2 months. So you people need to read and comprehend a post before you start your replies, and then have an open mind and clear out the cobwebs every now and again. P.S. I would be willing to go and help in the big EVE war on the Goon side, provided you guys replace the ships I lose, but who do I contact ?

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