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Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:16:00 - [391] Originally by: Ascend Alt As ever this just gets politicised with in-game stuff. Notice how nearly everyone that is saying its not a big deal is lv or a surprisingly vocal person from a small corp u never heard of before cough bob alt cough I do not know anyone that would be happy with the thought that a dev had a major role in their enemies corp/alliance, so the solution is simple, stop letting ccp employees treat this game as their own little ego booster and keep them in npc corps where they should be. Yes the post early on from a leader of goonswarm, members of MC, and other groups are all 'bob alts' because you haven't heard of them... I'm happy with the thought that devs are in major alliances, because it means, among other things, that they do know about the game, despite what many players seem to think, and that CCP, like Blizzard, and every other MMO company that isn't SOE, knows how valuble it is to have your employees play the game and know it inside and out from different points of view. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:21:00 - [392] Originally by: Gut Punch It is time for CCP to clean up its act. Like a doctor cutting out a cancer, CCP need to clean everything that could inspire more tinfoilery. Very publically, they need to discuss and post the rules for GM/Devs playing in game. They need to make the GM/Dev players standout where ever they are (including their alts). Furthermore, all employees of CCP should be removed from 0.0 alliances. Perhaps they could create their own corps/alliance if they wanted the 0.0 experience, but then the players would at least know who they are fighting against. Until this occurs, CCP will continue to have to fight this battle every time someone discovers another CCP employee in BoB & Friends. And when this happens, CCP will lose touch with their game, and the next major expansion will be EVE-Online: Revelations part NGE and EVE will be dead. Not to mention in outing all their employees chars, they lose all those chars, and some of the many rabid psychos who play EVE would dec those corps/alliances solely because they'd want to kill the CCP employees. Imagine if Chribba were a CCP employee, you'd have people screaming bloody murder over it, others would claim that's why he has a dread in highsec (even though every older player knows the exact reason it's there), and god knows what else. You'd also probably see a few dozen wardecs against his corp, just to get their hands on a dev corpse. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Gut Punch Gallente The Revenant	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:36:00 - [393] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Gut Punch It is time for CCP to clean up its act. Like a doctor cutting out a cancer, CCP need to clean everything that could inspire more tinfoilery. Very publically, they need to discuss and post the rules for GM/Devs playing in game. They need to make the GM/Dev players standout where ever they are (including their alts). Furthermore, all employees of CCP should be removed from 0.0 alliances. Perhaps they could create their own corps/alliance if they wanted the 0.0 experience, but then the players would at least know who they are fighting against. Until this occurs, CCP will continue to have to fight this battle every time someone discovers another CCP employee in BoB & Friends. And when this happens, CCP will lose touch with their game, and the next major expansion will be EVE-Online: Revelations part NGE and EVE will be dead. Not to mention in outing all their employees chars, they lose all those chars, and some of the many rabid psychos who play EVE would dec those corps/alliances solely because they'd want to kill the CCP employees. Imagine if Chribba were a CCP employee, you'd have people screaming bloody murder over it, others would claim that's why he has a dread in highsec (even though every older player knows the exact reason it's there), and god knows what else. You'd also probably see a few dozen wardecs against his corp, just to get their hands on a dev corpse. If you read more carefully, I didn't say terminate their characters. I said remove them from 0.0 alliances execpt possibily a DEV alliance. They can't play in 0.0 alliances who are fighting over space. Empire space still exists you know. They can play there! Also, nobody said you had to waste their toons. Let them redo the character's faces so they are jovian but keep their skill points. Make them chat with all red flashy caps. Put them in very distinct ships. The point is that the conspiracy theories and those who make them are being fed by the whitewashing and hiding behind the privacy policy. This isn't going to stop until CCP does something different. --- --- Signature removed - please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected])
Detaitiv Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:57:00 - [394] Congrat Ens. Good to see the new blood at ccp lives and breathes this game. As to the rest of it, t20 buggered the way the community is going to look at dev's in game. Hopefully there's a fix in the works.
Arushia Nova Labs	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:01:00 - [395] Unlike t20, I fail to see what The Enslaver did wrong. If Kug and script kiddies like him keep on outing GMs just to cause grief, it will become impossible for devs and GMs to experiance alliance warfare first-hand. This is not a good thing. I'm an indie MMO developer, I know what I'm talking about here and where this can end.
Matthew Caldari BloodStar Technologies	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:15:00 - [396] Originally by: Blue Wraith Excellent points. Anything can be taken to the extreme, including measures to prevent extremes. I like the fact that the employees like to play their own game, and I don't want to see that go away. But, I agree that the line has to be drawn somewhere. I have expressed where I think it should be drawn. Agree to disagree? :) Sounds good to me ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines.
Typhoid Mary Finite Horizon	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:24:00 - [397] Originally by: Arushia Unlike t20, I fail to see what The Enslaver did wrong. Exactly. He did nothing wrong. People just aren't happy unless they are complaining about something. Ens was busted...Big deal! We already knew about the policy to remove dev characters that are exposed. I just think that the devs with high-profile characters need to do more to keep themselves on the low. Even if it means removing themselves from that position at their own accord or via company policy. Having all dev characters exposed and made visible is not a solution, it's a can of worms that will open up to even bigger problems both on a personal and development level. As a few have already pointed out in this thread, the devs being integrated into the community gives them a much better understanding of the game and the community. It's something that can't be understood simply by reading the forums, bug-reports, and emails. If you fail to understand this, then I would highly recommend you move on to a flavor of the month game. Your plea to try and make this happen won't be heard. Hilmar has already stated that, so get over it.
Charles D'Gaulle	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:51:00 - [398] Originally by: Typhoid Mary Originally by: Arushia Unlike t20, I fail to see what The Enslaver did wrong. Exactly. He did nothing wrong. People just aren't happy unless they are complaining about something. Ens was busted...Big deal! We already knew about the policy to remove dev characters that are exposed. I just think that the devs with high-profile characters need to do more to keep themselves on the low. Even if it means removing themselves from that position at their own accord or via company policy. Having all dev characters exposed and made visible is not a solution, it's a can of worms that will open up to even bigger problems both on a personal and development level. As a few have already pointed out in this thread, the devs being integrated into the community gives them a much better understanding of the game and the community. It's something that can't be understood simply by reading the forums, bug-reports, and emails. If you fail to understand this, then I would highly recommend you move on to a flavor of the month game. Your plea to try and make this happen won't be heard. Hilmar has already stated that, so get over it. Sorry, CCP dug their own grave, they should have handled previous incidents better. Now everyone is out to point fingers. CCP Can cry as much as they want about how unfair it is, they caused the problem not some cheap hacker.
The Hanz Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:02:00 - [399] Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: Hubris a few points here ladies... 1 - no official proof of hacking has been shown. So labeling his actions as hacking is utterly false. If he infiltrated himself in that is another matter. Didn't the last titan get an agro timer and blown up due to a spy. Hmmmm sounds like that would be hacking too if your def. applies. None the less none of us truely know all the facts and cannot label his actions as hacking without proof. So kerion saying he is hacking is false because there is no proof. to quote a famous line here proof or stfu. 2 - if ccp did not have a Stalinistic approach to this whole situation todays thread would not be happening. They asked kugu to take down the info and they would talk to him. He did but they didn't seem to want to hold up their part of the bargan. Then they just banned him with the general blanket cover all banzor rule. All other rules broken were proven false. 3 - kugu has yet to put up anyones phone numbers, addresses, if they are married, if they have kids, what company they own, and what contracts said company has. CCP allowed a few (someone named SirMolle comes to mind) to do this to kugu for upwards of 12 days without taking down the info from the eve-o site or punishing the guilty. The posts were reported but that did not seem to matter. To add to that they even bragged about texting him happy new year on his cell phone. All those facts are on kugu's site. 4 - as i have watched this thread it has grown and then shrank many times. There are a lot of anti kugu posts for a very good reason. If you take the pro kugu percentage from the last major thread and compare it you will see a very large void here. Its a bad situation. I really think that if ccp would have talked to kugu like they said they would this wouldn't be happening. I support what kugu has done to level the playing field. I would still support his actions if it was one of my friends that was the leader in a major corp in an alliance. Because gm's and devs should not be in those positions. The old saying "Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely" will always ring true. --- /Bump-de-bump bump bump This is exactly what happened to my friend. As soon as a GM lost money it became "hacking" with no proof and he got permanently banned. Good thing CCP doesn't abuse their power. I'm glad this guy was ruined. Do I get my own little dev announcement?
Xelios Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:16:00 - [400] Edited by: Xelios on 03/03/2007 21:14:51 Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: Hubris a few points here ladies... 1 - no official proof of hacking has been shown. So labeling his actions as hacking is utterly false. If he infiltrated himself in that is another matter. Didn't the last titan get an agro timer and blown up due to a spy. Hmmmm sounds like that would be hacking too if your def. applies. None the less none of us truely know all the facts and cannot label his actions as hacking without proof. So kerion saying he is hacking is false because there is no proof. to quote a famous line here proof or stfu. 2 - if ccp did not have a Stalinistic approach to this whole situation todays thread would not be happening. They asked kugu to take down the info and they would talk to him. He did but they didn't seem to want to hold up their part of the bargan. Then they just banned him with the general blanket cover all banzor rule. All other rules broken were proven false. 3 - kugu has yet to put up anyones phone numbers, addresses, if they are married, if they have kids, what company they own, and what contracts said company has. CCP allowed a few (someone named SirMolle comes to mind) to do this to kugu for upwards of 12 days without taking down the info from the eve-o site or punishing the guilty. The posts were reported but that did not seem to matter. To add to that they even bragged about texting him happy new year on his cell phone. All those facts are on kugu's site. 4 - as i have watched this thread it has grown and then shrank many times. There are a lot of anti kugu posts for a very good reason. If you take the pro kugu percentage from the last major thread and compare it you will see a very large void here. Its a bad situation. I really think that if ccp would have talked to kugu like they said they would this wouldn't be happening. I support what kugu has done to level the playing field. I would still support his actions if it was one of my friends that was the leader in a major corp in an alliance. Because gm's and devs should not be in those positions. The old saying "Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely" will always ring true. --- /Bump-de-bump bump bump Agreed tbh. During the first 'situation' a LOT of people pointed out that it was being handled badly, on deaf ears. Now as a result of the handling of that situation you have a guy with access to several private forums who's on a vendetta against CCP for banning all 5 of his accounts. CCP, you actively endorse meta gaming in EVE. Spying on private TS, spying on private forums, even destroying a TITAN by using a lame spy gets a 'congrats' from you. Then you act all shocked and angry when that same meta gaming compromises an aspect of your company? How do you think it felt for D2 to lose their Titan because some spy abused their trust? Probably the same? If you endorse playing with fire eventually it's going to burn you too, and right now it is. I feel bad for the devs and GM's caught in the middle, but I can't say I'm surprised by kugut's actions either.

Nate D Naughty Ambitious Temptatious Endeavours	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:18:00 - [401] This is truly terrible. I wish CCP all the best against this hacker. -Nate --- Voice Comms are Coming ...SoonÖ [Click] Scribble scribble draws a duck ,~~. ( 9 )-_, (\___ )=='-' \ . ) ) \ `-' / `~j-' "=: <3 Kaemonn I can't draw, but here's a kitty! =^-^= <3 Conuion Meow
Gzashon Black Projects Development	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:21:00 - [402] I love how the CCP post fails to address even one iota of the specific accusations and information revealed by kugutsumen. Apparently, it is now important to "delve into the private lives of CCP staff" because they've been twisting things to their ends for a long time on a much larger scale than we've been told. Keep in mind that we probably never would have known about the T20 misconduct if it hadn't been for this guy ferreting out the information. When that broke, CCP HAD to admit it...and people laughed when I said "well, this is just the ONE cast that we KNOW about, how many others are there?" Kugutsumen's methods are shady. But thats what espionage is, shady, and I have nothing but respect for what he's doing. In revealing this information to the public, he's doing a great service. How many more stories like this are there? He's just one guy, and he's broken two in a few months. No wonder CCP banned his characters, he completely embarrassed them!
Riko Suavai	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:41:00 - [403] Originally by: Kirex What about the insider info enslaver had on t2 BPOs? IIRC, he told his friends to sell t2 because they aren't going to worth as much... I would LIKE an ANSWR to this as well Thats more information about the innerworkings than the average person knows. yes we know about invention, but we cannot forcast how the price will drop. Nor can we tell our friends. You cannot play a game and gm, without acquiring some higher level of knowledge that will be used to further yourself and your friends above the other players. That is metagaming
Jaabaa Minmatar Dental Drilling Corporation	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:49:00 - [404] Originally by: Ascend Alt Notice how nearly everyone that is saying its not a big deal is lv or a surprisingly vocal person from a small corp u never heard of before cough bob alt cough BoB alt, LOL, I can only assume that this was directed at me, and I am no one's alt. You can even ask my enemies It's just that I've known Ens for absolutely AGES, and the only thing he did wrong was to accept a position offered to him at CCP. Originally by: The Hanz I'm glad this guy was ruined. Do I get my own little dev announcement? So much hostility, maybe you should play something else. Maybe Ens podded you before he became a GM and you think that this is cool ? And to all the people that insist on bring up the t20 incident, well all I can say is that this situation has absolutely NOTHING to do with what t20 did. And regarding what Ens said about selling T2 BPOs, I told him I was keeping mine because I didn't think that the invention of BPCs would have any major impact on the production plans of BPO owners. And this conversation happened in November last year, long BEFORE he became a CCP employee. -- Jaabaa - CEO - Dental Drilling Corporation
Jaabaa Minmatar Dental Drilling Corporation	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:51:00 - [405] Originally by: Riko Suavai Originally by: Kirex What about the insider info enslaver had on t2 BPOs? IIRC, he told his friends to sell t2 because they aren't going to worth as much... I would LIKE an ANSWR to this as well Thats more information about the innerworkings than the average person knows. yes we know about invention, but we cannot forcast how the price will drop. Nor can we tell our friends. You cannot play a game and gm, without acquiring some higher level of knowledge that will be used to further yourself and your friends above the other players. That is metagaming He said that BEFORE he was a GM, and if you are referring to any comments made in that recording, then all I can say is that you only have to read the Dev Blogs to know what CCP are thinking about in this direction. -- Jaabaa - CEO - Dental Drilling Corporation
fnar g Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:51:00 - [406] There is nothing he's said that required inside knowledge. It wasn't a secret that invention was coming. You can find all this out from reading dev blogs, the forums and playing on the test server. Congrats on the job Enslaver.
Richard Aiel Caldari The Funkstars Guild	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:55:00 - [407] Originally by: Philanthus U READ IT ON THE INTERNETS SO IT MUST BE TRUE! At this point anyone could say anything they want in this thread and the tinfoilhat crew would believe it. Please people, go outside and see the sun for once or better yet ... go play WOW if you are really bothered by all this. Right except if you go back in this thread and read, Kieron SAID that this DID happen: Quote: Originally by: Richard Aiel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Apparently, there were 3 other incidents that took place back then we never heard about.... http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/search/news/Default.asp?ew_0_a_id=264532 note where it says: Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Three other employees of CCP have been caught violating the companyÆs rules by playing EveOnline and were reprimanded or lost their jobs as a consequence. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- While I am not sure about one of the events, I would guess two of the incidents mentioned involved the GM that was fired last summer for abusing his authority and the volunteer who was removed from ISD and perma banned for breaking the rules the summer before that, both of which were publically announced. Since the article does not go into specifics about the instances, it is impossible to take more than an educated guess. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online Hope it is allowed this time because it was snipped last time... apparently, youre allowed to say your peace but Im not allowed to refute it... looks around the restaurant then look at his mate "I wouldnt be greatly surprised if a little band came in and started playing hums the Star Wars Cantina theme"
Jaabaa Minmatar Dental Drilling Corporation	Posted - 2007.03.03 21:59:00 - [408] Originally by: Gzashon I love how the CCP post fails to address even one iota of the specific accusations and information revealed by kugutsumen. What exactly did K reveal ? That an ex-alliance commander started working for CCP in January, based on the fact that his IP address switched from England to Iceland. That he told people LONG BEFORE he was a GM that they should sell their T2 BPOs. And mentioned it again (?? not heard the recording, so not sure on this) after the Dev post ? (Not to mention the thread in which almost everyone had something to say, after that blog) -- Jaabaa - CEO - Dental Drilling Corporation
Richard Aiel Caldari The Funkstars Guild	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:02:00 - [409] Originally by: Gzashon I love how the CCP post fails to address even one iota of the specific accusations and information revealed by kugutsumen. Apparently, it is now important to "delve into the private lives of CCP staff" because they've been twisting things to their ends for a long time on a much larger scale than we've been told. Keep in mind that we probably never would have known about the T20 misconduct if it hadn't been for this guy ferreting out the information. When that broke, CCP HAD to admit it...and people laughed when I said "well, this is just the ONE cast that we KNOW about, how many others are there?" 3 more: Originally by: Richard Aiel http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/search/news/Default.asp?ew_0_a_id=264532 br note where it says: Quote: "Three other employees of CCP have been caught violating the companyÆs rules by playing EveOnline and were reprimanded or lost their jobs as a consequence." Originally by: Kieron While I am not sure about one of the events, I would guess two of the incidents mentioned involved the GM that was fired last summer for abusing his authority and the volunteer who was removed from ISD and perma banned for breaking the rules the summer before that, both of which were publically announced. Since the article does not go into specifics about the instances, it is impossible to take more than an educated guess. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online looks around the restaurant then look at his mate "I wouldnt be greatly surprised if a little band came in and started playing hums the Star Wars Cantina theme"
Richard Aiel Caldari The Funkstars Guild	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:05:00 - [410] Originally by: Jaabaa It's just that I've known Ens for absolutely AGES, and the only thing he did wrong was to accept a position offered to him at CCP. Love it, you knew him for ages an knew he was a GM but were sposed to believe the members of the alliance he was in didnt know that looks around the restaurant then look at his mate "I wouldnt be greatly surprised if a little band came in and started playing hums the Star Wars Cantina theme"

Ranger 1 Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:09:00 - [411] I love it when the unwashed masses panic, it has such a delightful comic appeal. Take a deep breath, take off the tinfoil hats, and stop reacting like a cheerleader that found an asprin in her drink on prom night. Try playing the game for a bit and relax.
Jaabaa Minmatar Dental Drilling Corporation	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:14:00 - [412] Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: Jaabaa It's just that I've known Ens for absolutely AGES, and the only thing he did wrong was to accept a position offered to him at CCP. Love it, you knew him for ages an knew he was a GM but were sposed to believe the members of the alliance he was in didnt know that WTF ??? You need to get a grip on reality and improve your reading and comprehension skills. Because I've known him for ages doesn't mean that I knew that he had started working for CCP. TBH, I thought that he had quit EVE because I hadn't seem him online for so long. The Blog explained his absence though. So yeah, I've known him for ages, ingame as Ens, no I didn't know he was a GM intern until the blog. You really have to learn to read .... -- Jaabaa - CEO - Dental Drilling Corporation
Sun Win Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:43:00 - [413] Sad to say but it sounds to me like The Enslaver should have been taken up on his offer to "give up his character completely" in the first place. All the arguments made by CCP and others that it's OK that The Enslaver didn't because he was "barely" involved in the Alliance and has hardly logged in since taking up the job are strange to me. Would it have been not OK if he HAD stayed regularly involved? What level of residual involvement is "low enough" for players turned GM? It all seems very complicated, arbitrary and so prone to confusion and corruption. Better to have a policy of having newly appointed GMs/staff make a clean break and start their life (or at least their names and corp histories) in Eve anew. It may seem harsh but you know what? Such may be the price of getting an amazing job. Lottery employees aren't allowed to play the lottery anymore, either. In other words, sure let CCP play the game and be a part of alliances and everything else but FFS, plug the holes in the wall! I buy that the developers need to be able to secretly play the game to learn how it works. I don't buy that any of them need to have leadership roles in large alliances. Have the developers do all the other stuff in secret and then if they want to know about running a huge alliance? Send out a survey or something. New to Eve? Learn to Fly - join channel: "Eve University" or read here
Mal Renolds Caldari Team America World Cops	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:56:00 - [414] Well CCP Im not crying for you at all . You maintained a dirty game is fair and now whaen the chickens come home to roost your not to happy about the "player solutions" to GM cheating and sharing inside knowledge and using gm tools to help there friends (T20) now its open season on you guys . Some of the players have now decideed to out all the GM's Devs and anyone who they feel need's to be observed very closely. So they they feel they dont get a unfair advantage FINE BY ME Reap what you sow, Reap what you sow
quellious COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:58:00 - [415] So, basically this new GM 'went as far as to offer to give the character up completely, if that was required'. (quote from dev blog itself). Sadly or not it looks like he will have to create a new character and start from the beginning. I don't see real issue with that, many people are still buying this great game, and discovering it. I'd say that things would have been different if old players becoming GM would all have theirs ingame char reset. This just avoid at least accusations of corruption. - Did you noticed that a pendulum does not swing in deep space ?
Richard Aiel Caldari The Funkstars Guild	Posted - 2007.03.04 00:07:00 - [416] Hey no fair! Keep arguing Im getting bored looks around the restaurant then look at his mate "I wouldnt be greatly surprised if a little band came in and started playing hums the Star Wars Cantina theme"
Xendie Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.03.04 00:13:00 - [417] so was ens a part of ISD when LV got their Hel mothership by somewhat dubios means? did he know about the event beforehand? we know that Dev's can be "socially engineered" to help their player characters alliance , just look at T20. did that happen to enslaver? we dont know and tbh i dont trust CCP enough to agree with arkanon in his statement. why?, first the person who outed ens didnt hack, he did the same as digitalcommunist did wich was checking up on available ip adresses he had obtained by being given access to a teamspeak server. that is not hacking, it is pretexting wich is illegal in many countries but CCP have not banned anyone for pretexting nor will they ever as they would have to ban half their staff playing in bob/lv then. what you can do is stop recruiting ppl that are alliance leaders to CCP or do a full disclusure on CCP amployees playing the game. and stop the witch hunt as it hasnt worked so far on him since he just keeps slapping you right back in the face. Originally by: "darth solo" bad men came, bad men didnt go home, bad men left containers.
Static Ga'lraith Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.04 00:23:00 - [418] Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: Static Ga'lraith Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: Static Ga'lraith Originally by: El'Niaga I feel I need to say something.you shouldn't call him a hacker until such time as he's convicted of hacking. He has been convicted before for being naughty to the FBI. Really? post his arrest record if yer in possession of such info Firstly, I am not the type of person to post people's confidential information about other players in this game. (K's conviction is now in the public domain and has been for a while, so unfortunately it is no longer confidential, persay.) Secondly, Hubris effectively confirmed that this information was correct with the post he made answering my previous one. Please insert coin and try again. So you have no proof of thios allegation then... "Please insert coin and try again" Link to an interesting news article. There you go. And Acix, I don't care about CCP's speeches or blogs. I do however care about Mulla destroying someone's game. Someone who has been playing for 3 years and got offered an internship at the company he loves. And he get's outed for what? This was done out of pure spite and revenge on Mulla's part. ----------------
Rastadeen Minmatar Golden Fury Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 00:25:00 - [419] This is about people losing trust in CCP. 1 employee who takes advantage of his position is all thats needed. Quite funny tho, as this is a problem the first MMOs encountered and fixed a long time ago, and most MMO's have strict rules for their employes to follow and other employes tracking them again to make sure they dont use any advantages they get from their position at CCP to work in their personal favour. I can understand that for a small game company having to fire 1 good programmer or something doesnt come lightly simply because they dont grow on trees. Also, calling someone a hacker because he put the pieces in a puzzle together is lame. When you got people working for CCP who also take part in ingame politics like leading big alliances you will have a conflict of intrest. On this individual i doubt his done anything wrong except leaking info about upcomming changes only CCP employes are privelegded to. Bottomline... CCP set your self up for the hunt. If some people dont trust you do keep your own house in order, people will do it for ya... just gets a heck of alot dirtier.
Hon Kovell Gallente Intaki Peace	Posted - 2007.03.04 00:30:00 - [420] Congratulations on the new position, Enslaver. It sounds like you will do a good job. It's nice to see CCP are recruiting more GMs that know Eve well.



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